Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[InRareForm]

I think nba cancels the season imo

[spurraider21]

first day with over 30k confirmed new cases for the US since May 1

and thats with previous hotspots of NY, NJ, MA only accounting for about 4% of that

[slick'81]

23+ clemson athletes just tested positive

[slick'81]

Cant wait to see how dr. Holdren spins this

[spurraider21]

55k new cases today in brazil

[TimDunkem]

23+ clemson athletes just tested positive
28 including staff. Spreading like wildfire in the MLB already, more positives in the NFL before any camp has even opened, Nick Watney caught it, fights being called off in boxing. But, yeah, everything is fine. :lol

[TimDunkem]

Cant wait to see how dr. Holdren spins this
Disappeared during the wave in March and April. He'll probably disappear again as this gets worse.

[spurraider21]

baghdad mid hasnt been active since May 7 tbh

[TimDunkem]

baghdad mid hasnt been active since May 7 tbh
Uh oh

[TimDunkem]

.

[baseline bum]

Disappeared during the wave in March and April. He'll probably disappear again as this gets worse.

You'll still have derp lecturing you about it being fake like he did in the thread in the club where someone was posting his friend is in critical condition right now from COVID in SA.

[slick'81]

California gov gavin newsome announced masks are now required when in public and indoor buildings and the usual lot who want him to quit are furious :lol

[tholdren]

According to the latest immunological and serological studies, the overall lethality of Covid-19 (IFR) is about 0.1% and thus in the range of a strong seasonal influenza (flu).


Lol ChumpDumper

[spurraider21]

California gov gavin newsome announced masks are now required when in public and indoor buildings and the usual lot who want him to quit are furious :lol
Wife was talking to her friend back in LA. Her brother doing his residency in NY had gotten a rough case a few months back. Now turns out both of her parents (in LA) recently tested positive and it’s unclear if they need to be hospitalized. Evidently they had self isolated very heavily for last few months. They had to call a plumber in about a week ago. He wasn’t wearing a mask. After they came down with the sickness they called the plumber back and turns out he had covid at the time and didn’t know about it

[tholdren]

Wife was talking to her friend back in LA. Her brother doing his residency in NY had gotten a rough case a few months back. Now turns out both of her parents (in LA) recently tested positive and it’s unclear if they need to be hospitalized. Evidently they had self isolated very heavily for last few months. They had to call a plumber in about a week ago. He wasn’t wearing a mask. After they came down with the sickness they called the plumber back and turns out he had covid at the time and didn’t know about it
And the point of this remains what? All of them were fine. Odd.

[ChumpDumper]

NO ONE EVER DIED! IT'S ALL FAKE!

[SnakeBoy]

Wife was talking to her friend back in LA. Her brother doing his residency in NY had gotten a rough case a few months back. Now turns out both of her parents (in LA) recently tested positive and it’s unclear if they need to be hospitalized. Evidently they had self isolated very heavily for last few months. They had to call a plumber in about a week ago. He wasn’t wearing a mask. After they came down with the sickness they called the plumber back and turns out he had covid at the time and didn’t know about it

Is the plumber ok?

[tholdren]

Another lie by Karen.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao tholdren accusing anyone of lying

[tholdren]

:lmao tholdren accusing anyone of lying
Lol ChumpDumper so mad he changes quotes and quotes out of context.


Tell us more about the hospitals

[ChumpDumper]

th:lolldren melting down in multiple threads

he can't take it

[apalisoc_9]

People like tholdren are partly responsible for the deaths of thousands of American citizens due the misinformation they spread.

COVID is srs. Take it seriously

[ChumpDumper]

People like tholdren are partly responsible for the deaths of thousands of American citizens due the misinformation they spread.

COVID is srs. Take it seriouslyYep, he's incredibly stupid and thought no one would die. He hid for three months when people actually did die. Now he's melting down all over the place trying to say he was right all along and no one actually died.

[tholdren]

People like tholdren are partly responsible for the deaths of thousands of American citizens due the misinformation they spread.

COVID is srs. Take it seriously
Not really. Only serIous for a certain demographic. Says every published article on the virus.

[spurraider21]

Is the plumber ok?
Don’t know much more than what i posted. He was fine enough to answer the phone

[TimDunkem]

Yep, he's incredibly stupid and thought no one would die. He hid for three months when people actually did die. Now he's melting down all over the place trying to say he was right all along and no one actually died.

Basically. Bitter old fuck disappeared literally the day Texas closed down and he came back as soon as reopening started happening to tell everyone I told you so for internet points even though he was wrong about just about everything. :lol

This is really important to him. Like clockwork he shows up every day and repeat the same BS for hours. What a sad existence. He is on the same tier of poster as ducks and Derp.

[baseline bum]

So we're #4 on the list of fastest growing cities. To channel hater, looks like it's World War IX again.

1273806894717640705

[TimDunkem]

So we're #4 on the list of fastest growing cities. To channel hater, looks like it's World War IX again.

1273806894717640705

Think we outpaced Dallas a few times this week. Something isn't right in SA, and it isn't helping that Metro Health is having tracing issues because some people don't answer or cooperate.

[tholdren]

Basically. Bitter old fuck disappeared literally the day Texas closed down and he came back as soon as reopening started happening to tell everyone I told you so for internet points even though he was wrong about just about everything. :lol

This is really important to him. Like clockwork he shows up every day and repeat the same BS for hours. What a sad existence. He is on the same tier of poster as ducks and Derp.

Lolololil you said you had covid. And then went to work.

[tholdren]

So we're #4 on the list of fastest growing cities. To channel hater, looks like it's World War IX again.

1273806894717640705

Follow the replies. There are more people responding with logic who say case count is meaningless. Unless you want to be proven more wrong with fatality rate.

[TimDunkem]

Double, triple, and quadruple posts. :lol

Lolololol Meeeellltdooooownnn

[TDMVPDPOY]

my state down here, just brought back restrictions...due to increase of transmitted cases...oh well just a bunch of idiots who attended blm protests, nothing to see here....

[boutons_deux]

Think we outpaced Dallas a few times this week. Something isn't right in SA, and it isn't helping that Metro Health is having tracing issues because some people don't answer or cooperate.

Joe Freeman maxed out

https://therivardreport.com/coronavirus-cases-top-6000-as-freeman-coliseum-testing-site-reaches-capacity (https://therivardreport.com/coronavirus-cases-top-6000-as-freeman-coliseum-testing-site-reaches-capacity/?utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter-daily&utm_content=editorial&utm_term=coronavirus&utm_source=Rivard+Report&utm_campaign=2a955b4902-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_12_21_07_19_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1576c62124-2a955b4902-84683437&mc_cid=2a955b4902&mc_eid=54a5432c74)

[boutons_deux]

Coronavirus Cases are Increasing at Texas Child Care Centers,

but the State Repealed Safety Rules

https://www.sacurrent.com/the-daily/archives/2020/06/19/coronavirus-cases-are-increasing-at-texas-child-care-centers-but-the-state-repealed-safety-rules?utm_source=widget&utm_medium=articleblog&utm_campaign=rightrail&utm_content=RelatedStories

[TimDunkem]

Coronavirus Cases are Increasing at Texas Child Care Centers,

but the State Repealed Safety Rules

https://www.sacurrent.com/the-daily/archives/2020/06/19/coronavirus-cases-are-increasing-at-texas-child-care-centers-but-the-state-repealed-safety-rules?utm_source=widget&utm_medium=articleblog&utm_campaign=rightrail&utm_content=RelatedStories

But kids don't do so bad with Covid. Send all your kids!! Just be sure to have your hazmat suit on before you bring them back home or to visit grandma.

[tholdren]

Double, triple, and quadruple posts. :lol

Lolololol Meeeellltdooooownnn
This is from the new yoker.
In Florida, 12,673 people are hospitalized, compared to 8,553 a month ago, according to the COVID Tracking Project.

Completely false. But people like yiu would cite this because you dont understand data.

[TimDunkem]

^General Meltdoooownn Autismo reporting for duty!

[tholdren]

But kids don't do so bad with Covid. Send all your kids!! Just be sure to have your hazmat suit on before you bring them back home or to visit grandma.

Lol this guy. Using cases to generalize again. How sad. No understanding just gossip

[TimDunkem]

This message is hidden because tholdren is on your ignore list.

[tholdren]

TimDunkem said he had it. And doesn't understand that locking down did more harm than good.

He also thinks that the virus would have just disappeared..... as evidence by his daily case count gossip. Lol how uninformed. And he's calling people autistic who don't agree with him. Lolololol ChumpDumper crew lololol

[tholdren]

Chumpdump turn into RandomGuy quick and tell us more about how daily cases are important. Quick.

[TimDunkem]

This message is hidden because th:lolldren is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

[tholdren]

This message is hidden because th:lolldren is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

You didn't really have covid, but you count as a case since states vount new cases by reporting of symptoms only

[tholdren]

You didn't really have covid, but you count as a case since states vount new cases by reporting of symptoms only
The irony is that you can not test and be counted as a positive, but HAVE to test to count as recovered... let us proceed

[boutons_deux]

ABSTRACT

In the current COVID-19 pandemic a key unsolved question is the duration of acquired immunity inrecovered individuals.

The recent emergence of SARS-CoV-2 precludes a direct study on this virus,

but the four seasonal human coronaviruses may reveal common characteristics applicable to all humancoronaviruses.

We monitored healthy subjects over a time span of 35 years (1985-2020), providing a totalof 2473 follow up person-months, and

determined

a) the time to reinfection by the same seasonal coronavirus and

b) the dynamics of coronavirus antibody depletion post-infection.

An alarmingly short duration of protective immunity to coronaviruses was found.

Reinfections occurred frequently at 12months post-infection and

there was for each virus a substantial reduction in antibody levels as soon as 6months post-infection.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.11.20086439v2.full.pdf

[SnakeBoy]

ABSTRACT

In the current COVID-19 pandemic a key unsolved question is the duration of acquired immunity inrecovered individuals.

The recent emergence of SARS-CoV-2 precludes a direct study on this virus,

but the four seasonal human coronaviruses may reveal common characteristics applicable to all humancoronaviruses.

We monitored healthy subjects over a time span of 35 years (1985-2020), providing a totalof 2473 follow up person-months, and

determined

a) the time to reinfection by the same seasonal coronavirus and

b) the dynamics of coronavirus antibody depletion post-infection.

An alarmingly short duration of protective immunity to coronaviruses was found.

Reinfections occurred frequently at 12months post-infection and

there was for each virus a substantial reduction in antibody levels as soon as 6months post-infection.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.11.20086439v2.full.pdf

Yep

[slick'81]

Canada reporting 267 new cases today.....usa 36,117

keep those borders closed trudeau

[hater]

Canada reporting 267 new cases today.....usa 36,117

keep those borders closed trudeau

Wish mexico had paid for that wall tbqh

Dirty fucking americans need to stay on their side

[tholdren]

Us numbers down

[DMC]

Wish mexico had paid for that wall tbqh

Dirty fucking americans need to stay on their side

Someone has to deliver the rice bags and medical aid to your people.

[pgardn]

Ain’t going away in the summer with fall to come.
Its hard to turn back reopening and people can’t just lock in.

We are in for a rough year.

[pgardn]

Us numbers down

Its all good.
Its just the flu.

[boutons_deux]

US number are NOT DOWN

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&casesMetric=true&dailyFreq=true&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&country=~USA

https://rt.live/?fbclid=IwAR2SuH8QiblnU-l6jTKG8ldLTV8LUe2IswF1Nczt67JQ02i2x4lLQiLpzRs

PPE supply is still huge problem

govt is expecting a huge C19 surge in the autumn

[boutons_deux]

What they don’t tell you about surviving COVID-19

'Recovered' doesn't mean healthy again

The lucky ones — if you can call them that — recover, but not in the sense that their lives are back to normal. For some, the damage is permanent. Their organs will never fully heal.




“When they say ’recovered,’ they don’t tell you that that means you may need a lung transplant,”

“Or that you may come back after discharge with a massive heart attack or stroke,

because COVID makes your blood thick as hell.

Or that you may have to be on oxygen for the rest of your life.”

I'm currently in the hospital after having a heart attack caused by clotting that resulted from COVID 19. I have a stent in my heart and need to wear a heart monitoring vest at all times. Now I face months of recovery including physical and occupational therapy. I'm only 29.



—Dan

I went into acute kidney failure and needed dialysis. I now have asthma, chronic cough and an irregular heartbeat. I have conditions I never had before, plus I’m wiped all the time. I hope this gets better, but you [Sherie] are on the money. And, mine was considered a low-moderate case.

— Stephanie McCarroll

These are my observations (of hospitalized patients):

1) Everybody is so swollen their skin has blisters and is so tight it looks like it’s about to burst, from head to heel. And skin so dry peeling and flaky that to slather Vaseline on every shift is almost necessary — all over.



2) Everybody’s skin is weeping clear fluid and has sores and the skin just slides off with slightest turn or rub, all over the body.

3) Everybody’s blood is thick as slush. Can’t figure out what’s making it clot like that, but it’s dark and thick.

4) Everybody’s kidneys are failing. Urine dark or red, which could contribute to the swelling, but we don’t know yet.

5) Everybody has an abnormal heart rhythm. Not sure of the cause. But even without underlying heart problems, it’s not beating normally.

6) Seems counterproductive, but the ones that are not breathing on the ventilator have to lay flat on their stomachs to breathe better. And even some on the ventilator are on their stomachs. And the slightest turn for some is what leads to their almost immediate death. Bathing, cleaning and turning to prevent skin breakdown causes most to code blue, so a decision has to be made on which is most important.



7) Everyone has a Foley catheter and a rectal tube — incontinent of bowel and bladder.

8) Everybody on tube feeding. Everybody.

Never before in my entire career have I seen a disease process attack in this way.
— 20-year veteran nurse in NYC via Dr. Dee Knight


I spent 10 days on a ventilator last March with ARDS [Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome] and I'm still on oxygen. Going home is just the beginning of the next steps in recovering. Every aspect of my life has changed for the worse. Please support and help anyone you know who survived. And wear a mask!

— Nurse @liveV4Vendetta


I'm just getting over a "mild" case after over two months. There's scarring in my lower right lung and my stomach and digestion are a mess like never before. But I'm coughing way less and can take walks again.
And, btw, this is the third time in two months that I've "gotten better." I'm just hoping it's the last and it doesn't all come back AGAIN.
— Eli


I’m a nurse on a COVID floor, I caught it. I am a relatively healthy 24-year-old and could barely walk up a half flight of stairs. My blood pressure skyrocketed, chest pain was debilitating. I’m 8 weeks out and still feeling the chest pain and shortness of breath. This is no joke.
— Alicia


I had COVID for over 60 days. I’m 33 years old, was super healthy, pescatarian, 125 pounds, and ran and did yoga every day. I couldn’t walk for two weeks besides a couple steps. It was the worst illness of my life.
I didn’t realize I had COVID symptoms for weeks. Here were the early signs:
- Waking up sweaty (I normally don’t sweat at night).
- Slight sporadic chills but no fever (or I thought I had no fever bc I only took my temp during the day).
- I could smell fine but would have weird smells like metallic or gas. Also, tasted metallic in the past 2-3 weeks. Apparently, a metallic taste or smell is related to lung problems.
- Loose stool but not terrible.
— Covid teacher


I "recovered" March 29. I was born 65 years ago with chronic bronchitis that usually popped up maybe twice a year. Now, after COVID-19, I have acute bronchitis attacks 3-4 times a month and get winded walking to the mailbox.
— Hollis Charles


I got COVID in March, and in May, developed symptoms of encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome that leave me bedridden for days at a time. I’m so glad someone mentioned this so I know that I’m not the only one experiencing this.
— @PinkkYaYa


My mom worked on a COVID ward and contracted it, spent a month in ICU. She’s lucky enough to be home now, but she struggles to get up stairs and it’s going to be a long road to recovery. Thank you for everything that you do.
— Leanne

My coworker — an otherwise totally healthy 30-year-old — is still having issues breathing, two full months later. We’ve got patients coming back to the ER after they’re “recovered” because they can’t breathe or they get a blood clot. It’s so insane.
— Andi

I had it back in March and did 6 days on a ventilator. To date, I’m still short of breath with little exertion. I have pains all over that I have never had before. I’ve noticed I don’t urinate as much as I use to. And my legs & feet keep swelling so large no shoes fit. Even flops.
— Melly B.

I’m a healthy, active 23 year-old and I still have significant lung damage two months after I’ve “recovered.”
— Laney Whitney

https://www.mysanantonio.com/science/article/What-they-don-t-tell-you-about-surviving-15347792.php?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mysa_morningheadlines&utm_content=news&stn=nf

but, well-protected, no-risk Capital wants ALL exposed Labor to go back work.

[boutons_deux]

White House adviser: Trump administration preparing for possible second wave of coronavirus in the fall

White House trade adviser Peter Navarro (https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/06/21/peter-navarro-china-coronavirus-claim-vpx-sotu-vpx.cnn) said Sunday that the Trump administration is preparing for the possibility that a second wave of Covid-19 (https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/15/us/covid-19-second-shutdown/index.html) could hit the United States in the fall.

"We are filling the stockpile in anticipation of a possible problem in the fall. We are doing everything we can beneath the surface, working as hard as we possibly can," Navarro told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union."

Asked by Tapper if the administration is preparing for a second wave in the fall, Navarro replied, "Of course."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/21/politics/trump-administration-preparing-coronavirus-second-wave-cnntv/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/21/politics/trump-administration-preparing-coronavirus-second-wave-cnntv/index.html)

Thanks to the red/Confederate states, USA may still be in the first wave by end of the year.

[TDMVPDPOY]

my state down here in australia are back into restrictions after +20 new cases, fearing of clusters...3 schools shutdown, and some idiots who went to protests BLM when it was only a few days till lockdown restrictions was lifted, they had to go out and protest wasting 7 weeks of hard work state/country self isolating...now alot of ppl are pissed that lockdowns are back and certainly businesses who survived phase1, wont survived phase2....

the idiots who participated in the protests, now their workplaces are also in lockdown for a cleansing...how fkn lame, when jobs are on the line and everyone is doing it tough with no stable income or no job

[pgardn]

my state down here in australia are back into restrictions after +20 new cases, fearing of clusters...3 schools shutdown, and some idiots who went to protests BLM when it was only a few days till lockdown restrictions was lifted, they had to go out and protest wasting 7 weeks of hard work state/country self isolating...now alot of ppl are pissed that lockdowns are back and certainly businesses who survived phase1, wont survived phase2....

the idiots who participated in the protests, now their workplaces are also in lockdown for a cleansing...how fkn lame, when jobs are on the line and everyone is doing it tough with no stable income or no job

do you have any idiots going to indoor rallies with the president of the US

if so make sure the people that check out the indoor venue test +, that’s how we do things here.

[boutons_deux]

how BADLY stupid, fucking America, esp the Confederacy, is FUCKING UP, USA vs Canada

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&casesMetric=true&dailyFreq=true&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&country=USA~CAN

Navarro said Feds expect a C19 surge in the autumn, which would be the first wave continuing, since it never went away

PPE is still in short supply.

[tholdren]

do you have any idiots going to indoor rallies with the president of the US

if so make sure the people that check out the indoor venue test +, that’s how we do things here.
You have no logic

[pgardn]

You have no logic

You dont know what logic means.

[tholdren]

You dont know what logic means.

evidence suggests the median coronavirus infection fatality rate for those under 70 is just 0.04%.

The estimate throws into sharp relief the lopsided mortality figures for the disease, which has claimed an inordinate number of elderly people across the planet while leaving younger individuals mostly unscathed.

John Ioannidis, a professor of epidemiology and population health at Stanford University, argues in a paper published earlier this month that COVID-19 "seroprevalence studies," which measure infection rates using the presence of antibodies in blood samples, "typically show a much lower fatality than initially speculated in the earlier days of the pandemic.

[ChumpDumper]

evidence suggests the median coronavirus infection fatality rate for those under 70 is just 0.04%.

The estimate throws into sharp relief the lopsided mortality figures for the disease, which has claimed an inordinate number of elderly people across the planet while leaving younger individuals mostly unscathed.

John Ioannidis, a professor of epidemiology and population health at Stanford University, argues in a paper published earlier this month that COVID-19 "seroprevalence studies," which measure infection rates using the presence of antibodies in blood samples, "typically show a much lower fatality than initially speculated in the earlier days of the pandemic.What's the high number of the range he reviewed?

[boutons_deux]

Amid threats and political pushback, public health officials are leaving their posts


https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/amid-threats-and-political-pushback-public-health-officials-leaving-posts/2020/06/22/6075f7a2-b0cf-11ea-856d-5054296735e5_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/amid-threats-and-political-pushback-public-health-officials-leaving-posts/2020/06/22/6075f7a2-b0cf-11ea-856d-5054296735e5_story.html?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1 QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J 0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YSIsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNTk3N DBkYjNhZGU0ZTIxYTg0OTNmZGFlIiwidGFnIjoiNWVmMTE0NDF mZTFmZjY1NGMyMDI3NDc4IiwidXJsIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud 2FzaGluZ3RvbnBvc3QuY29tL2hlYWx0aC9hbWlkLXRocmVhdHM tYW5kLXBvbGl0aWNhbC1wdXNoYmFjay1wdWJsaWMtaGVhbHRoL W9mZmljaWFscy1sZWF2aW5nLXBvc3RzLzIwMjAvMDYvMjIvNjA 3NWY3YTItYjBjZi0xMWVhLTg1NmQtNTA1NDI5NjczNWU1X3N0b 3J5Lmh0bWw_dXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPXdwX3RvX3lvdXJfaGVhbHR oJnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX3NvdXJjZT1uZXdzbGV0d GVyJndwaXNyYz1ubF90eWgmd3Btaz0xIn0.0jSdr5rvzNoVqtt sAOPE2eh2_l4PH__eJ--lDWpzPDw&utm_campaign=wp_to_your_health&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_tyh&wpmk=1)

[boutons_deux]

tholdren if full of shit

Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of COVID-19 Cases and Deaths


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

[tholdren]

tholdren if full of shit

Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of COVID-19 Cases and Deaths


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

Lololl what is that? Lololol

[spurraider21]

at this point with the amount of increasing cases all over the country, just have to hope that at some point the covid-19 strain mutated into a less lethal version. daily death figures have still been lower lately, which is great, but those numbers tend to lag the cases by some time

[boutons_deux]

150K dead / 2.1M cases = 7% mortality

[TimDunkem]

The virus seems relatively stable. There have been mutations but where is the evidence that it is less lethal now?

[RandomGuy]

What's the high number of the range he reviewed?

ooh ooh. I know.

Found the study. I can see why virus twoofer is cherry picking.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.13.20101253v2.full.pdf

There is a reason he hides the links to his source material.

[RandomGuy]

The virus seems relatively stable. There have been mutations but where is the evidence that it is less lethal now?

It's not. Estimates have always been in the neighborhood of .0025-.0066 for overall fatality, with sharply lower incidence of death for those under 50. Even tholdrens cherry-picked bullshit puts it in this range.

[spurraider21]

The virus seems relatively stable. There have been mutations but where is the evidence that it is less lethal now?
i dont know that there is, i'm wishcasting. this spike in cases is concerning...

[tholdren]

It's not. Estimates have always been in the neighborhood of .0025-.0066 for overall fatality, with sharply lower incidence of death for those under 50. Even tholdrens cherry-picked bullshit puts it in this range.
Cdc stats. Disease death is always an estimation. But of course you knew that. Bwahaahhahaha

[DarrinS]

i dont know that there is, i'm wishcasting. this spike in cases is concerning...

Even with cases nationally plateau-ing, death rates have been steadily decreasing. Could be younger, healthier demographic, or better treatment.

Discussed at the end of this video, but the whole video is pretty informative.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i3uHmPv9TE

[slick'81]

It's not. Estimates have always been in the neighborhood of .0025-.0066 for overall fatality, with sharply lower incidence of death for those under 50. Even tholdrens cherry-picked bullshit puts it in this range.


Wait! Dr. Holdren actually making sense? Scary

[RandomGuy]

i dont know that there is, i'm wishcasting. this spike in cases is concerning...

1.13 with six days being contagious is doubling cases in about 32 days.

https://rt.live/

FWIW.

[spurraider21]

Even with cases nationally plateau-ing, death rates have been steadily decreasing. Could be younger, healthier demographic, or better treatment.

Discussed at the end of this video, but the whole video is pretty informative.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i3uHmPv9TE
could be potentially explained away though... even the plateauing cases could have actually been a decrease because more testing was revealing more cases, so its possible that a downward trending daily death rate was correlating with a downward trending infection rate (that appeared to be a flatline). also probably helped that we werent having such a large % of our cases in 1 city anymore like we did in new york, where resources became an issue, so improved quality of treatment could also have played some role.

i dont know how likely those explanations are to be valid, admittedly.

with that said, we have yet to see what the numbers will look like as it relates to the more recent spike in cases over the last week

[tholdren]

Wait! Dr. Holdren actually making sense? Scary

Every time you get a release of data with median age of new cases in 30s the ifr will drop.

From the beginning of the virus the demo has been known. They specifically said almost 90 percent would have no or mild symptoms.

Whats happening with the case count is good news spiking among low risk population. As long as the elderly are protected and hosp trends and fatalities remain the same.

[RandomGuy]

Wait! Dr. Holdren actually making sense? Scary

He's not. He is just stating what we have known from day one, as if we didn't.

[RandomGuy]

Even with cases nationally plateau-ing, death rates have been steadily decreasing. Could be younger, healthier demographic, or better treatment.

Discussed at the end of this video, but the whole video is pretty informative.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i3uHmPv9TE

Depends on how you define "death rate". If you are using known cases divided by fatalities, that means :jack, because of testing rates. See previous posts on that.

[DarrinS]

Depends on how you define "death rate". If you are using known cases divided by fatalities, that means :jack, because of testing rates. See previous posts on that.

Overall deaths in relation to "known" cases. We won't know the true IFR for a LONG time.

[RandomGuy]

Overall deaths in relation to "known" cases. We won't know the true IFR for a LONG time.

We have a fair idea so far. All the data seems to be settling in .0025-.0066 range.

[tholdren]

He's not. He is just stating what we have known from day one, as if we didn't.

you didn't know it. You argued for weeks

[ChumpDumper]

th:loldren lying and hiding his sources and melting down when other people expose him

[DarrinS]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/activists-halt-street-protests-in-south-carolina-as-some-demonstrators-become-infected/2020/06/22/cf8afa6a-b4c2-11ea-aca5-ebb63d27e1ff_story.html

[vy65]

CiLWMiGjaZE

[baseline bum]

Even with cases nationally plateau-ing, death rates have been steadily decreasing. Could be younger, healthier demographic, or better treatment.

Discussed at the end of this video, but the whole video is pretty informative.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i3uHmPv9TE

Probably more infections skewing younger plus the time delay between infections and deaths since infections identified are spiking the last 7 days.

[baseline bum]

1.13 with six days being contagious is doubling cases in about 32 days.

https://rt.live/

FWIW.

San Antonio's doubling time right now is 13 days according to Mayor Nirenberg's press conference yesterday.

[TimDunkem]

CiLWMiGjaZE

Gotta' love him. Always giving us hope.

[Reck]

1275486316432625665

:lmao We're such an undesirable country that we're actually about to get banned from traveling to second or third tier country.

We're shit. So sad.

[TimDunkem]

:lol "US"A :lol

[tholdren]

Btw, does anyone here still trust the model of 50000 deaths by August? We're already closing in on 40k fast while Governors are discussing re-opening, and it's just the middle of April.

[baseline bum]

1275486316432625665

:lmao We're such an undesirable country that we're actually about to get banned from traveling to second or third tier country.

We're shit. So sad.

LOL we're a shithole country

[boutons_deux]

EXCLUSIVE:

Feds About To Bail On Supporting COVID Testing Sites

In Texas And Other States

The Trump administration is ending funding and support for local COVID-19 testing sites around the country this month,

as cases and hospitalizations are skyrocketing in many states.
The federal government will stop providing money and support for 13 sites across five states which were originally set up in the first months of the pandemic to speed up testing at the local level.

Local officials and public health experts expressed a mixture of frustration, resignation, and horror at the decision to let federal support lapse.

Texas will be particularly hard hit by the decision.

The federal government gives much-needed testing kits and laboratory access to seven testing sites around Texas.

But in the state, which is seeing new peaks in cases, people still face long lines (https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavirus/some-wait-hours-for-drive-thru-covid-19-test/2393591/) for testing that continues to fail to meet overwhelming demand.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/exclusive-feds-about-to-bail-on-supporting-covid-testing-sites-in-texas-and-other-states

Trash's moronic, cretinous logic

If USA stops C19 testing, the number of cases will go down

If ladies quit testing, the number of pregnancies and abortions will go down

If people quit testing, the number STI, AIDs, cancers will go down

[spurraider21]

https://i.gyazo.com/05857507cba88aad1a83062049d5a04c.png

https://i.gyazo.com/ec57c8f14858b1bf04b0d693b72fd7cf.png

https://i.gyazo.com/1436464b5ae0ad082ac9d6d0ac1be238.png

[InRareForm]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8452933/California-reaches-record-high-5-000-positive-coronavirus-tests-single-day.html

[tholdren]

EXCLUSIVE:

Feds About To Bail On Supporting COVID Testing Sites

In Texas And Other States

The Trump administration is ending funding and support for local COVID-19 testing sites around the country this month,

as cases and hospitalizations are skyrocketing in many states.
The federal government will stop providing money and support for 13 sites across five states which were originally set up in the first months of the pandemic to speed up testing at the local level.

Local officials and public health experts expressed a mixture of frustration, resignation, and horror at the decision to let federal support lapse.

Texas will be particularly hard hit by the decision.

The federal government gives much-needed testing kits and laboratory access to seven testing sites around Texas.

But in the state, which is seeing new peaks in cases, people still face long lines (https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavirus/some-wait-hours-for-drive-thru-covid-19-test/2393591/) for testing that continues to fail to meet overwhelming demand.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/exclusive-feds-about-to-bail-on-supporting-covid-testing-sites-in-texas-and-other-states

Trash's moronic, cretinous logic

If USA stops C19 testing, the number of cases will go down

If ladies quit testing, the number of pregnancies and abortions will go down

If people quit testing, the number STI, AIDs, cancers will go down




Now research and put in context.

[boutons_deux]

Prisons & Jails: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuxnH0VAkAM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuxnH0VAkAM)

[boutons_deux]

Initial COVID-19 Infection Rate May Be 80 Times Greater Than Originally Reported

Many epidemiologists believe that the initial COVID-19 infection rate was undercounted due to

testing issues, :lol no! testing PROBLEMS

asymptomatic and alternatively symptomatic individuals, and

a failure to identify early cases.

the number of early COVID-19 cases in the U.S. may have been more than 80 times greater and

doubled nearly twice as fast as originally believed.

influenza-like illnesses (ILI)

“We analyzed each state’s ILI cases to estimate the number that could not be attributed to influenza and were in excess of seasonal baseline levels,”


“When you subtract these out, you’re left with what we’re calling

excess ILI – cases that can’t be explained by either influenza or the typical seasonal variation of respiratory pathogens.”

The researchers found that the excess ILI showed a nearly perfect correlation with the spread of COVID-19 around the country.

https://scienceblog.com/517014/initial-covid-19-infection-rate-may-be-80-times-greater-than-originally-reported/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+scienceblogrssfeed+%28Science Blog.com%29

[CosmicCowboy]

1275486316432625665

:lmao We're such an undesirable country that we're actually about to get banned from traveling to second or third tier country.

We're shit. So sad.

Speak for yourself.

[vy65]

Speak for yourself.

He doesn't need to, Europe spoke for him.

[spurraider21]

Florida reporting over 5,500 cases today per worldometer

previous single day high was just over 4000

[ElNono]

Florida reporting over 5,500 cases today per worldometer

previous single day high was just over 4000

El Pollo Loco is expanding locations?

[TimDunkem]

Florida reporting over 5,500 cases today per worldometer

previous single day high was just over 4000

Just increased testing, hospitalizations flat, not a problem, just the flu, etc, etc.

[baseline bum]

https://i.gyazo.com/05857507cba88aad1a83062049d5a04c.png

https://i.gyazo.com/ec57c8f14858b1bf04b0d693b72fd7cf.png

https://i.gyazo.com/1436464b5ae0ad082ac9d6d0ac1be238.png

Damn and they don't even have La Polla Joto in Texas and California. What gives?

[tholdren]

Just increased testing, hospitalizations flat, not a problem, just the flu, etc, etc.

You are correct. 1 out of 10k.

[TimDunkem]

Highest new case total today.

[ElNono]

Highest new case total today.

hahahaahahaha cases are going to disappear like me in march

lolololol you

[TimDunkem]

:lmao

[baseline bum]

Highest new case total today.

In San Antonio? What was it?

[TimDunkem]

In San Antonio? What was it?
In the US overall: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/24/coronavirus-live-updates-us/

In SA it was 347 today. Dropped to under 300 two days ago and has been rising again. All other stress indicators went up too: hospitalizations, ICU admissions, ventilator use.

[weebo]

Expect things to get a little worse in the next couple of weeks. Call centers are getting hammered and there's a backlog of test still pending results. FYI, if you go get tested, ask for a rapid test--usually get those in 1-2 days. This is for Texas btw.

[DarrinS]

Expect things to get a little worse in the next couple of weeks. Call centers are getting hammered and there's a backlog of test still pending results. FYI, if you go get tested, ask for a rapid test--usually get those in 1-2 days. This is for Texas btw.

Is rapid test still with the nasal swab?

[DarrinS]

In San Antonio? What was it?

347

[weebo]

347

Yes. NP swabs have ~70-72% accuracy--a little better than OP swabs.

[baseline bum]

Yes. NP swabs have ~70-72% accuracy--a little better than OP swabs.

Damn you get nose fucked for only ~70% accuracy? I thought those active virus tests were way more accurate and it was the antibody tests that were super questionable.

[Reck]

All of New York is basically open so we're probably going to see a spike here in the next two weeks.

[tholdren]

hahahaahahaha cases are going to disappear like me in march

lolololol you
Strange, I said that the way they are counting and reporting data covid will never end.
So yes, lolololol you. Icfr is one fourth the flu in these new hotspot states. Ie. Texas sc ca ut nc wa az al ar....

Bwahahahaaua new cases

[Will Hunting]

All of New York is basically open so we're probably going to see a spike here in the next two weeks.
Really? I was in Manhattan yesterday and was stunned by how empty the streets were, looked like something out of a zombie movie.

[weebo]

Damn you get nose fucked for only ~70% accuracy? I thought those active virus tests were way more accurate and it was the antibody tests that were super questionable.

The ones I’ve encountered range somewhere between 70-79% accuracy. It’s not perfect but no test is—getting false +\- is not always a bad thing—100% reliability is not a good thing.

[Reck]

Really? I was in Manhattan yesterday and was stunned by how empty the streets were, looked like something out of a zombie movie.

Mostly anyways. We still have the limited gathering rules in place. This Friday is supposed to be the last phase of opening which includes all of NY.

Movie theaters and gyms aren't opening at all though.

[DarrinS]

All of New York is basically open so we're probably going to see a spike here in the next two weeks.

It already burned through NYC like a raging California wildfire. I doubt there's going to be a spike there.

But keep those jews out of the park. Riots and protests are fine, tho.

[DarrinS]

Yes. NP swabs have ~70-72% accuracy--a little better than OP swabs.

Damn, I didn't realize those tests were that inaccurate.

[Reck]

It already burned through NYC like a raging California wildfire. I doubt there's going to be a spike there.

But keep those jews out of the park. Riots and protests are fine, tho.

The governor has implemented some travel restriction for states that are currently spiking so hopefully that helps.

[DarrinS]

The governor has implemented some travel restriction for states that are currently spiking so hopefully that helps.

Keeping covid patients out of nursing homes helps.

[pgardn]

hahahaahahaha cases are going to disappear like me in march

lolololol you

nailed...

[DarrinS]

Most of this disease came from NY. Lol, his travel restrictions. None of us want to travel to the covid epicenter. :lol

[pgardn]

Strange, I said that the way they are counting and reporting data covid will never end.
So yes, lolololol you. Icfr is one fourth the flu in these new hotspot states. Ie. Texas sc ca ut nc wa az al ar....

Bwahahahaaua new cases

nailed by NO no

[baseline bum]

It already burned through NYC like a raging California wildfire. I doubt there's going to be a spike there.

But keep those jews out of the park. Riots and protests are fine, tho.

Why would you think they're anywhere near having 70% of the population infected there?

[DarrinS]

Why would you think they're anywhere near having 70% of the population infected there?

Some Penn State study showed infection rate could be 80x confirmed cases. Boutons posted it.

[Will Hunting]

Some Penn State study showed infection rate could be 80x confirmed cases. Boutons posted it.
That seems really high but wouldn’t be a total surprise to me.

[DarrinS]

That seems really high but wouldn’t be a total surprise to me.

Based on testing of prisons, there was a really high rate of asymptomatic people.

And now, we have a big spike in younger 20-30 population.

[Reck]

Keeping covid patients out of nursing homes helps.

What is your conspiracy here?

[Reck]

Most of this disease came from NY. Lol, his travel restrictions. None of us want to travel to the covid epicenter. :lol

LOL butthurt and triggered.

[DarrinS]

Unfortunately, the 20-something crowd will infect their parents and/or grandparents. That's who will be filling hospitals. Unless the Italians are right and this thing is less virulent.

[DarrinS]

LOL butthurt and triggered.

Relax and get back under your bed. :lol

[Will Hunting]

Based on testing of prisons, there was a really high rate of asymptomatic people.

And now, we have a big spike in younger 20-30 population.
A senior living center my company manages just got all of its residents and employees tested and over half came back positive, almost all of which are asymptomatic, the others with minor symptoms they’ll recover from, and these are people in their mid to late 80s. That kind of stuff is what makes me think there’s been a lot more exposure than any of us realize.

[DarrinS]

What is your conspiracy here?

^Seriously? :lmao

[Reck]

Relax and get back under your bed. :lol

Isn't that what you yourself said in the past? :lmao

I go out nearly every day for food and house needs. Kee your whiskey by the pool Darrin, big cuckoo is not going to get you when you live as a shut in.

[DarrinS]

A senior living center my company manages just got all of its residents and employees tested and over half came back positive, almost all of which are asymptomatic, the others with minor symptoms they’ll recover from, and these are people in their mid to late 80s. That kind of stuff is what makes me think there’s been a lot more exposure than any of us realize.

Dude? That's pretty amazing, considering how at risk those people are. Holy shit.

[Reck]

^Seriously? :lmao

Absolutely I am. Go ahead and tell me what about New York nursing homes.

[DarrinS]

A senior living center my company manages just got all of its residents and employees tested and over half came back positive, almost all of which are asymptomatic, the others with minor symptoms they’ll recover from, and these are people in their mid to late 80s. That kind of stuff is what makes me think there’s been a lot more exposure than any of us realize.

Are you in the New England area?

[Will Hunting]

Are you in the New England area?
I’m in DC, not saying where the senior living center is :lol

[DarrinS]

I’m in DC, not saying where the senior living center is :lol

I understand - HIPPA

But, it's been around that area a pretty long time. I wonder if what you're seeing lends credence to the claim that covid is getting weaker over time? I was pretty shocked by what you posted.

[Will Hunting]

I understand - HIPPA

But, it's been around that area a pretty long time. I wonder if what you're seeing lends credence to the claim that covid is getting weaker over time? I was pretty shocked by what you posted.
It’s happening at facilities all over the country and yeah I think it definitely supports the idea the virus is getting weaker. 3 months ago a virus outbreak like that would have been devastating.

[baseline bum]

Most of this disease came from NY. Lol, his travel restrictions. None of us want to travel to the covid epicenter. :lol

Dude, we're one of the COVID epicenters now. :lol

[DarrinS]

It’s happening at facilities all over the country and yeah I think it definitely supports the idea the virus is getting weaker. 3 months ago a virus outbreak like that would have been devastating.

That is fucking fantastic news! I hope this damn things just burns itself out.

[baseline bum]

A senior living center my company manages just got all of its residents and employees tested and over half came back positive, almost all of which are asymptomatic, the others with minor symptoms they’ll recover from, and these are people in their mid to late 80s. That kind of stuff is what makes me think there’s been a lot more exposure than any of us realize.

Wow would have never expected those kind of results from motherfuckers that old.

[DarrinS]

Dude, we're one of the COVID epicenters now. :lol

I suppose. Keep your eyes on hospitalization and deaths. We have a very unhealthy population.

[DarrinS]

What Will posted is the most positive thing I've read this month. And it was completely apolitical.

[hater]

People still dont understand the deaths come weeks after the infection spikes. So deaths will start to avalanche in 2 to 3 weeks. Well see cose numbers to the last peak nationwide.

What was our peak? 7k death per day? Yeah well see close to that easily

[DarrinS]

People still dont understand the deaths come weeks after the infection spikes. So deaths will start to avalanche in 2 to 3 weeks. Well see cose numbers to the last peak nationwide.

What was our peak? 7k death per day? Yeah well see close to that easily


We all understand this. Thanks for another hater hallmark card.

[spurraider21]

People still dont understand the deaths come weeks after the infection spikes. So deaths will start to avalanche in 2 to 3 weeks. Well see cose numbers to the last peak nationwide.

What was our peak? 7k death per day? Yeah well see close to that easily
everyone here understands that

our peak was just under 2,700 per day

[hater]

everyone here understands that

our peak was just under 2,700 per day

Nope negatory

Very few ppl understands this

Otherwise you would not see the protests or the opening up stance from most Americans. Americans are stupid human beings and Corona is exposing that

[spurraider21]

Nope negatory

Very few ppl understands this

Otherwise you would not see the protests or the opening up stance from most Americans. Americans are stupid human beings and Corona is exposing that
i said everyone here understands it

[hater]

i said everyone here understands it

Here? Where?

[tholdren]

People still dont understand the deaths come weeks after the infection spikes. So deaths will start to avalanche in 2 to 3 weeks. Well see cose numbers to the last peak nationwide.

What was our peak? 7k death per day? Yeah well see close to that easily
No. Cases are trending lower age. All cause fatalities convened. Cdc running out of backlogging.

Even ihme lowered their death model by approx 20k.

[hater]

No. Cases are trending lower age. All cause fatalities convened. Cdc running out of backlogging.

Even ihme lowered their death model by approx 20k.

We are still gonna see some deaths and hospitals are already seeing surge. Doesnt matter if eventually deaths are less. The survivors still take up hospital beds thus preventing others from getting one

The worry has always been hospital collapses not raw number of deaths

[DarrinS]

No. Cases are trending lower age. All cause fatalities convened. Cdc running out of backlogging.

Even ihme lowered their death model by approx 20k.


IMHE finally updated their model. Was stuck on June 15 for days.

[tholdren]

We are still gonna see some deaths and hospitals are already seeing surge. Doesnt matter if eventually deaths are less. The survivors still take up hospital beds thus preventing others from getting one

The worry has always been hospital collapses not raw number of deaths

This will not happen. Nor did it ever happen.

[tholdren]

IMHE finally updated their model. Was stuck on June 15 for days.

Yes. But imhe overshoot worse than neil furguson

[DarrinS]

Does any model account for an entire month of protesting/rioting?

The 20-30 demo testing highest now. Memorial Day was a long time ago.

[DarrinS]

.

[DarrinS]

That IMHE model is all over the place.

[tholdren]

Does any model account for an entire month of protesting/rioting?

The 20-30 demo testing highest now. Memorial Day was a long time ago.
They are not asking that question. Mainstream media reports that spikes in cases definitively are not protest related. How they know??? Interesting media knows that, but won't report that new cases, new hospitalizations and new fatalities don't all mean new or confirmed.

Sad the general public has to spend time fact checking.

[tholdren]

This is from ny
NYC COVID-19 Contact Tracers Not Asking About George Floyd Protest Participation, Despite Fears of New Virus Wave

[RandomGuy]

Florida and Georgia were supposed to be “inevitable”, what happened?

No shit cases go up when testing goes up. Show me the bloodbath that was predicted in Florida and Georgia.

Didn't really talk much about Georgia, to my memory. Welcome to search if you want to get the "w".

Did predict that Florida would take off tho. TSA denying science and simple math in service to his orange god who would literally feed him to the wolves to save himself.

One month later <6-25-20>:
Florida crushes daily coronavirus record by posting over 5,500 new cases in alarming spike
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-florida-posts-new-daily-record-in-coronavirus-case-spike-20200624-vcadawrcwzhwjkqxdznupkp75i-story.html?fbclid=IwAR0nY7sokZbcjjrxnVYSNZyYX6l2n3 8sLSESF7hol-9fKnpKjqjeJWiUKl4

[hater]

This will not happen. Nor did it ever happen.

I never said it happened and hopefully it doesnt happen

[boutons_deux]

FL or GA are among ALL the fucking red / Confederate states with R0 > 1

https://rt.live/?fbclid=IwAR2SuH8QiblnU-l6jTKG8ldLTV8LUe2IswF1Nczt67JQ02i2x4lLQiLpzRs

[spurraider21]

Did you guys know that Cuomo, a democrat, put sick people in nursing homes? Did i mention he’s a democrat and not Trump?


He unleashed Sars-Cov2 on the world, laid off 25% of the workforce, put sick people in nursing homes, and instigated the riots.


I thought this was going to be about Cuomo's nursing home policy. :lol


The way the NYC curve looks, it appears that covid just burned through that city. Sure, they locked down, only to have vast majorities infected indoors. Putting covid patients in nursing homes surely didn't help. This thing only burns out when it runs out of fuel, just like a brush fire.

We have spikes in the southern states now, because we locked down early and opened early. Even our current "spikes" are a mere blip compared to what happened in the northeast.


There would be far fewer deaths, if we didn't put covid patients in nursing homes. Strange policies by Cuomo and Whitmer.


Keeping covid patients out of nursing homes helps.

[DarrinS]

Did you guys know that Cuomo, a democrat, put sick people in nursing homes? Did i mention he’s a democrat and not Trump?

You went to all that trouble. I'm flattered.

[RandomGuy]

We are still gonna see some deaths and hospitals are already seeing surge. Doesnt matter if eventually deaths are less. The survivors still take up hospital beds thus preventing others from getting one

The worry has always been hospital collapses not raw number of deaths

You know you are an idiot if hater is dunking on you. :lol tholdren

[spurraider21]

You went to all that trouble. I'm flattered.
searched for the term "nursing"

wasnt any trouble

[spurraider21]

1275905785927741446

[InRareForm]

She crazy af

[ElNono]

1275905785927741446
rmt?

[InRareForm]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8459417/Data-shows-23-counties-seeing-uncontrollable-COVID-growth.html

28000 cases a day ??!?

[TSA]

Didn't really talk much about Georgia, to my memory. Welcome to search if you want to get the "w".

Did predict that Florida would take off tho. TSA denying science and simple math in service to his orange god who would literally feed him to the wolves to save himself.

One month later <6-25-20>:
Florida crushes daily coronavirus record by posting over 5,500 new cases in alarming spike
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-florida-posts-new-daily-record-in-coronavirus-case-spike-20200624-vcadawrcwzhwjkqxdznupkp75i-story.html?fbclid=IwAR0nY7sokZbcjjrxnVYSNZyYX6l2n3 8sLSESF7hol-9fKnpKjqjeJWiUKl4

Still no bloodbath in Florida. Did you also predict California would take off? Is California currently a bloodbath?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

[TSA]

Did you guys know that Cuomo, a democrat, put sick people in nursing homes? Did i mention he’s a democrat and not Trump?



https://twitter.com/ChrisCuomo/status/1275969508222685185

https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1276125559387566082

[pgardn]

They are not asking that question. Mainstream media reports that spikes in cases definitively are not protest related. How they know??? Interesting media knows that, but won't report that new cases, new hospitalizations and new fatalities don't all mean new or confirmed.

Sad the general public has to spend time fact checking.

what places do you go for your information that are not main stream media?
give us a list

[pgardn]

rmt (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=4593)?

This lady is in for a very rough life.

[RandomGuy]

[takes a bit hit of whataboutism tonic]

:lol

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/ChrisCuomo/status/1275969508222685185

https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1276125559387566082
so cuomo's brother who admits he can never be objective is praising cuomo.

what does that have to do with repeating the nursing home thing ad nauseam when everybody here is already aware of it?

[TSA]

so cuomo's brother who admits he can never be objective is praising cuomo.

what does that have to do with repeating the nursing home thing ad nauseam when everybody here is already aware of it?

I just needed an excuse to post the Cuomo circle jerk.

[spurraider21]

I just needed an excuse to post the Cuomo circle jerk.
fair tbh :lol

btw completely unrelated but did you know that in new york sick old people were sent back to nursing homes? i heard it had bad results.

[TSA]

[tucks tail and dodges question]

Still no bloodbath in Florida.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

Do you consider Florida a "bloodbath" when it's outside the top 20 in deaths per capita?

[spurraider21]

Still no bloodbath in Florida.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

Do you consider Florida a "bloodbath" when it's outside the top 20 in deaths per capita?
dont know what timeframe RG was talking about, but Florida's spike in cases has been in the last 1-2 weeks, so its not entirely unusual that death rates havent spiked yet. with that said, it remains to be seen how lethal these cases are going to be. if they are disproportionately younger, or if the virus has weaken (i dont have any evidence for this), then it would follow that the uptick in deaths will not be as drastic as the uptick in cases. still in wait and see mode, imo

either way, the spike in cases cannot be accounted for simply by increased testing, so it's definitely something to monitor

[tholdren]

Lol spurraider21 2 more weeks.

This just in If you have a RUNNY NOSE you can be a positive case of covid without a test. Covid will go on forever.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) appears to have recently added three new symptoms of the novel coronavirus to its ongoing list.

Congestion or runny nose, nausea, and diarrhea were added, joining the federal agency's list that already included fever or chills, cough, shortness of breath or difficulty breathing, fatigue, muscle or body aches, headache, new loss of taste or smell and sore throat.

[spurraider21]

This message is hidden because tholdren is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

[tholdren]

Lol spurraider21 2 more weeks.

This just in If you have a RUNNY NOSE you can be a positive case of covid without a test. Covid will go on forever.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) appears to have recently added three new symptoms of the novel coronavirus to its ongoing list.

Congestion or runny nose, nausea, and diarrhea were added, joining the federal agency's list that already included fever or chills, cough, shortness of breath or difficulty breathing, fatigue, muscle or body aches, headache, new loss of taste or smell and sore throat.

Yet spurraider21felt the need to read and respond.

Lololoolok

[baseline bum]

Holy fuck these Florida jeebotards freaking out about West Palm Beach's mask law. :lmao

Get in here hater, god damn this shit is ridiculous.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEixbIe1srk

[boutons_deux]

Top U.S. health official estimates 10 undiagnosed coronavirus cases for each confirmed one

CDC Director Robert Redfield said,

"Our best estimate right now is that for every case that’s reported, there actually are 10 other infections.”

young people are driving the recent surge in cases in parts of the South and West,

a point Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R) echoed in tweets (https://twitter.com/GovMikeDeWine/status/1276216758945361922) about the increase of cases in his state.

President Trump continued to push the discredited notion that coronavirus cases are increasing in the United States because of

“GREAT TESTING” :lol stupid, ignorant asshole, as are ALL his supporters

While testing has increased, health experts say that in several states with rising caseloads, new cases are outpacing the spread of testing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/25/coronavirus-live-updates-us/

[TSA]

fair tbh :lol

btw completely unrelated but did you know that in new york sick old people were sent back to nursing homes? i heard it had bad results.

:lol peak Cuomo right here

https://twitter.com/nycjim/status/1276163497496322050

It's amazing that the media not only gives him a pass on all the deaths in his state but puts him on a pedestal as if he's done a good job

[tholdren]

Top U.S. health official estimates 10 undiagnosed coronavirus cases for each confirmed one

CDC Director Robert Redfield said,

"Our best estimate right now is that for every case that’s reported, there actually are 10 other infections.”

young people are driving the recent surge in cases in parts of the South and West,

a point Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R) echoed in tweets (https://twitter.com/GovMikeDeWine/status/1276216758945361922) about the increase of cases in his state.

President Trump continued to push the discredited notion that coronavirus cases are increasing in the United States because of

“GREAT TESTING” :lol stupid, ignorant asshole, as are ALL his supporters

While testing has increased, health experts say that in several states with rising caseloads, new cases are outpacing the spread of testing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/25/coronavirus-live-updates-us/




once again:
1. New cases are not always new people. Problem
2 new cases are no all "new" infections. Problem
3. New cases are not all new active infections. Problem
4. New cases do not even have to be positive to be counted.

These are all flaws to new case count that you do not understand.

Additionally, new cases only mean lower ifr if the demo is lowering in age.

Cdc stating over 20mil Americans have had. Not good news for ifr and puts R0 and exponential growth into clear problems..

Covid going to be a probable cause for eternity.

[spurraider21]

:lol peak Cuomo right here

https://twitter.com/nycjim/status/1276163497496322050

It's amazing that the media not only gives him a pass on all the deaths in his state but puts him on a pedestal as if he's done a good job
he's a hypocrite to be sure, though i dont think he's necessarily wrong

[ElNono]

Holy fuck these Florida jeebotards freaking out about West Palm Beach's mask law. :lmao

Get in here hater, god damn this shit is ridiculous.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEixbIe1srk

If you were wondering how Trump won Florida after talking to the resident retard, there's your answer...

[tholdren]

once again:
1. New cases are not always new people. Problem
2 new cases are no all "new" infections. Problem
3. New cases are not all new active infections. Problem
4. New cases do not even have to be positive to be counted.

These are all flaws to new case count that you do not understand.

Additionally, new cases only mean lower ifr if the demo is lowering in age.

Cdc stating over 20mil Americans have had. Not good news for ifr and puts R0 and exponential growth into clear problems..

Covid going to be a probable cause for eternity.

El nono 130k lol

[tholdren]

Total US COVID Deaths
Mar15-Mar31: 4116
Apr1 - Apr14: 21,766
Apr15-Apr30: 28,616
states started opening
May1-May14: 21,014
May15-May31: 16,618
Jun1-Jun14: 10,005

[MultiTroll]

Somebody mentioned OAN newscasters today.
I like some of their starters.
https://instagram.ffjr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t51.2885-15/e35/33136078_273455709863472_8395065328710713344_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=instagram.ffjr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net&_nc_cat=100&_nc_ohc=5GknjPffcTUAX_iM7uX&oh=5138c8b5bfe3c08f320091d657091573&oe=5F11704D

[Trainwreck2100]

Somebody mentioned OAN newscasters today.
I like some of their starters.
https://instagram.ffjr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t51.2885-15/e35/33136078_273455709863472_8395065328710713344_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=instagram.ffjr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net&_nc_cat=100&_nc_ohc=5GknjPffcTUAX_iM7uX&oh=5138c8b5bfe3c08f320091d657091573&oe=5F11704D

If you're a conservative network you ain't hiring ugly

[SnakeBoy]

:lol peak Cuomo right here

https://twitter.com/nycjim/status/1276163497496322050

It's amazing that the media not only gives him a pass on all the deaths in his state but puts him on a pedestal as if he's done a good job

He did a good job getting on tv and begging for help

[TimDunkem]

Highest single day new case record for the US for the second straight day.

[DMC]

https://i.imgur.com/YU697jA.jpg




https://i.imgur.com/sZBLL8f.jpg



https://i.imgur.com/PN8s29p.jpg

Some states achieved the flattening of the curve, some did not.

[ElNono]

https://i.imgur.com/YU697jA.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sZBLL8f.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PN8s29p.jpg

Some states achieved the flattening of the curve, some did not.

hmm, scale on the left sorta matters here...

[DMC]

hmm, scale on the left sorta matters here...

Of course, NY's goes to 1250, Cali to 150 and Florida to 100. So NY's scale had to go 10x either of those other two states. That's not flattening the curve, not at all.

[DMC]

Highest single day new case record for the US for the second straight day.

What does that mean or is it just a cool narrative milestone the layperson can freak out over?

[pgardn]

hmm, scale on the left sorta matters here...

You want them on separate graphs if you really dont want to compare.
There is no need for the histogram shit if you have already assumed time is a continuum by drawing a line.
Just overlap the lines on the same graph.

[boutons_deux]

'Free Handout to Insurance Industry':

Trump Administration Tells

Insurers They Don't Have to Cover Covid-19 Tests for Workers

"According to the Trump administration, insurance company profits are more important than the lives of nursing home residents and workers."

Trump administration issued policy guidance this week telling health insurance companies that they are not required by law to cover the Covid-19 tests employers may compel (https://time.com/5833633/employer-coronavirus-testing/) workers to undergo as a condition for returning to their jobs.

the move gives profitable insurers a green light to push the costs of potentially expensive (https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/five-things-to-know-about-the-cost-of-covid-19-testing-and-treatment/) coronavirus screenings onto workers.

its guidance that the law only requires insurers to cover "medically appropriate" coronavirus screenings, not tests "conducted to screen for general workplace health and safety (such as employee 'return to work' programs)."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/06/25/free-handout-insurance-industry-trump-administration-tells-insurers-they-dont-have (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/06/25/free-handout-insurance-industry-trump-administration-tells-insurers-they-dont-have)

Can't be hired w/o a test, and employee must pay for the test

avg cost is $350

[ElNono]

Of course, NY's goes to 1250, Cali to 150 and Florida to 100. So NY's scale had to go 10x either of those other two states. That's not flattening the curve, not at all.

NY/NJ certainly took it in the chin early, tbh...

[boutons_deux]

The Lancet Psychiatry:

First UK-wide study describes brain complications in some patients with severe COVID-19

Early stage study of 153 hospitalized patients provides a snapshot of brain complications in patients with COVID-19

a range of neurological and psychiatric complications

first detailed snapshot of the breadth of neurological complications in COVID-19 patients

it is focused on cases that are severe enough to require hospitalisation

The most common brain complication observed was stroke, which was reported in 77 of 125 patients.

Of these, 57 patients had a stroke caused by a blood clot in the brain, known as an ischaemic stroke,

nine patients had a stroke caused by a brain haemorrhage, and

one patient had a stroke caused by inflammation in the blood vessels of the brain.

39 patients showed signs of confusion or changes in behaviour reflecting an altered mental state

nine patients had unspecified brain dysfunction, known as encephalopathy, and

seven patients had inflammation of the brain, medically termed encephalitis.

The 23 patients with psychiatric diagnoses included

ten patients with a new-onset psychosis and

six patients with a dementia-like syndrome.

Seven patients had signs of a mood disorder, including depression and anxiety

around half were aged under 60 years of age

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-06/tl-pss062520.php (https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-06/tl-pss062520.php)

[Blake]

https://i.imgur.com/YU697jA.jpg




https://i.imgur.com/sZBLL8f.jpg



https://i.imgur.com/PN8s29p.jpg

Some states achieved the flattening of the curve, some did not.

The average age of people getting infected is getting lower so it makes sense the death rate is where it is.

[Spurtacular]

The average age of people getting infected is getting lower so it makes sense the death rate is where it is.

:lol Statistician Cuckold

[tholdren]

What does that mean or is it just a cool narrative milestone the layperson can freak out over?
It means nothing. Especially when the general public doesn't know anything about the data. Its just gossip6

[Blake]

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TmeHuxVJNG4/T_IucaVBmtI/AAAAAAAAF5A/SYQtM64VTfk/s1600/ankle-biter.jpg

[tholdren]

Oh wow. You got him too. Right past the emoji to an image.

Wow. Zing zam boom bop

You made him pay!

[pgardn]

It means nothing. Especially when the general public doesn't know anything about the data. Its just gossip6

So if the general public knows nothing, thats better than you getting it all wrong ... mild flu boy.

[tholdren]

So if the general public knows nothing, thats better than you getting it all wrong ... mild flu boy.
Lol cdc proving me right every day. Over 20million had covid says cdc.
Cdc already stated less than flu for many age groups.

Lol you and your poor logic.

[pgardn]

Lol cdc proving me right every day. Over 20million had covid says cdc.
Cdc already stated less than flu for many age groups.

Lol you and your poor logic.

lol... you are critical of emojis but you are indeed laughing out loud.

I dont think so.

The "mild flu" and then you misquote the cdc on a consistent basis.
shameful little child.

[tholdren]

lol... you are critical of emojis but you are indeed laughing out loud.

I dont think so.

The "mild flu" and then you misquote the cdc on a consistent basis.
shameful little child.

Bwahahahahahahahhahahahajahahhahahahahaah
Laughing at your logic. Bwagahahahahahahaha

Nope never misquoted. Ifr all ages 2x flu. Let that sink in

[pgardn]

Bwahahahahahahahhahahahajahahhahahahahaah
Laughing at your logic. Bwagahahahahahahaha

Nope never misquoted. Ifr all ages 2x flu. Let that sink in

You did and continue to do so.
Middle school magic, poof...

[SnakeBoy]

Bwahahahahahahahhahahahajahahhahahahahaah
Laughing at your logic. Bwagahahahahahahaha

Nope never misquoted. Ifr all ages 2x flu. Let that sink in

What is this 2x flu you keep posting? Is that supposed to reference mortality rate or something?

[tholdren]

What is this 2x flu you keep posting? Is that supposed to reference mortality rate or something?

Cdc ifr rate compared to flu. Released last month. Cdc now says over 20million have had covid so that would take ofr down considerably.

Cdc website.

[tholdren]

You did and continue to do so.
Middle school magic, poof...

Nope

[boutons_deux]

Tesla gave workers permission to stay home rather than risk getting covid-19. Then it sent termination notices.

A day before their employment was threatened, two workers had spoken publicly of their concerns about conditions inside a plant

When he defiantly reopened (https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/05/11/musk-tesla-factory/?itid=lk_inline_manual_2)the company’s plant in Fremont, Calif., against county orders last month,

Elon Musk promised Tesla employees they could stay home if they felt uneasy. They would not be penalized, he said.

Nonetheless, two Tesla workers say they

received termination notices alleging a “failure to return to work”

after they opted to take unpaid leave to protect themselves and their family members when the factory restarted production (https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/05/08/tesla-factory-reopen/?itid=lk_inline_manual_5)the second week of May.

The workers, Carlos Gabriel and Jessica Naro, said they both received the notices last week from Tesla’s human resources department citing their apparent failure to show up and

the company’s inability to reach them.

The workers provided evidence of their continuing correspondence with managers.

They believe they received the notifications for speaking up about their concerns (https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/05/11/musk-tesla-factory/?itid=lk_inline_manual_7)over working conditions at the plant.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/06/25/tesla-plant-firings/

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/104821373_3069771509735805_2232782574265749432_n.p ng?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=VepHYUKbbl4AX8FbOFn&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=e1d95b80075c873abb5d971d20e4e41f&oe=5F1C3630

[DMC]

NY/NJ certainly took it in the chin early, tbh...

That's one way to look at it. Another is that they made some poor decisions.

[DMC]

The average age of people getting infected is getting lower so it makes sense the death rate is where it is.
So then the new hoopla over increased infections should be weighed accordingly.

[pgardn]

So then the new hoopla over increased infections should be weighed accordingly.

more older Americans can die AND the overall death rate can go down.

[DMC]

You want them on separate graphs if you really dont want to compare.
There is no need for the histogram shit if you have already assumed time is a continuum by drawing a line.
Just overlap the lines on the same graph.

Then provide that graph or just sit back and pretend to be above it all.

Time is a continuum.

[DMC]

more older Americans can die AND the overall death rate can go down.

https://i.imgur.com/U8jyEjj.jpg

Historically it wasn't the older Americans testing positive at a higher rate. Is Blake saying that changed? Is it now 5 year olds?

If the overall death rate goes down but more older folks die of COVID, why, if more younger folks are now being infected?

Make it make sense, or just keep firing off random comments.

[boutons_deux]

That's one way to look at it. Another is that they made some poor decisions.

Ms of people in NY metro area travel by regional train and underground, ideal for airborne transmission.

Racist Trash, to pander to his racist cult mob, "said" he banned travelers from China, but 10Ks of Chinese, during his fake ban, traveled directly from China and some directly from Wuhan, as Trash was trying to get a deal done with Xi, whom was still praising in Feb.

Trash's "poor decision" was NOT to block travelers from badly infected Italy, France, UK, etc, 10Ks of whom arrive directly to ... NY metro airports.

[pgardn]

Then provide that graph or just sit back and pretend to be above it all.

Time is a continuum.

it should not be treated as such unless you can look at the data gathered and say it is gathered at every moment in time. this is part of why we invented calculus along with the ability to deal with rate of change

[pgardn]

https://i.imgur.com/U8jyEjj.jpg

Historically it wasn't the older Americans testing positive at a higher rate. Is Blake saying that changed? Is it now 5 year olds?

If the overall death rate goes down but more older folks die of COVID, why, if more younger folks are now being infected?

Make it make sense, or just keep firing off random comments.

read my comment again.
do you know what overall means before you decided to re-define it

[pgardn]

more older Americans can die AND the overall death rate can go down.

[pgardn]

it should not be treated as such unless you can look at the data gathered and say it is gathered at every moment in time. this is part of why we invented calculus along with the ability to deal with rate of change

this is part of the reason that some of your graphs showed lines overlapping a histogram
do you understand that?

they use the histogram so that you can look at a specific day week or month and say what the heck happened here since data is gathered in chunks through time


you knew all that just like the oldren right?

[tholdren]

this is part of the reason that some of your graphs showed lines overlapping a histogram
do you understand that?

they use the histogram so that you can look at a specific day week or month and say what the heck happened here since data is gathered in chunks through time


you knew all that just like the oldren right?

but you can't because the counts are being manipulated by the following
1. Probable cases deaths hospitalization
2. Backlogging of the above
3. Cases are not people they are cases

You think that all the cases are different people happening at in the literal past 24 hours. Nothing could be further from the truth

[tholdren]

There is not a scenario, in my opinion, to where the demand for our beds, especially ICUs, ventilators, PPE, etcetera, would eclipse our capability,” said Mark Wallace, the President and CEO of Texas Children’s Hospital said

[tholdren]

Dr. Marc Boom, of Houston Methodist, said those numbers don’t fully tell the capacity story.

“Just that number is being misinterpreted and, quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now,” Boom said

[pgardn]

but you can't because the counts are being manipulated by the following
1. Probable cases deaths hospitalization
2. Backlogging of the above
3. Cases are not people they are cases

You think that all the cases are different people happening at in the literal past 24 hours. Nothing could be further from the truth

This is exactly what I said was FALSE. Time is not treated as a continuum idiot.
You dont understand why your own graphs are shown as histograms.

How cases are counted and categorized is a whole different ball game that you have lied about multiple times dumbass.

[tholdren]

This is exactly what I said was FALSE. Time is not treated as a continuum idiot.
You dont understand why your own graphs are shown as histograms.

How cases are counted and categorized is a whole different ball game that you have lied about multiple times dumbass.
Please elaborate on the multiple lies.. you cant great. You're wrong.

[ElNono]

That's one way to look at it. Another is that they made some poor decisions.

There's some of that too, no doubt about it.

[tholdren]

This is exactly what I said was FALSE. Time is not treated as a continuum idiot.
You dont understand why your own graphs are shown as histograms.

How cases are counted and categorized is a whole different ball game that you have lied about multiple times dumbass.

And no. Youve been crying about daily counts all the time. Literally deaths are being backlogged from the beginning of the year. You cant account for that with a histogram. You really have no logic or understanding of anything about this.
Inserting deaths from January as new death today does not mean you can decipher anything

Bad data is worse than no data. You are so awful at thinking.

[Reck]

1276529824878727168

Just wait for it..

[pgardn]

And no. Youve been crying about daily counts all the time. Literally deaths are being backlogged from the beginning of the year. You cant account for that with a histogram. You really have no logic or understanding of anything about this.
Inserting deaths from January as new death today does not mean you can decipher anything

Bad data is worse than no data. You are so awful at thinking.

Show me where I have been crying about daily counts.

You cant even read.
Now you are restating what I said.
A histogram is not a continuum, its data comes in discrete chunks (already stated and you disagreed an now you are implying agreement), otherwise they would not present it as such. When they draw a line between columns in the histogram they are actually assuming time is a continuum but they really just want to blur one day into another to get an overall outlook and therefore must do some sort of averaging. You dont know anything about graphs and what they mean.

Now I dont know what the fck you are even saying, I said absolutely nothing about January. You are just answering or restating your own views and pretending I commented on them.

You can lie so easily, so Trumpish.

Manipulated data for a political purpose is worse than no data.
This is what you love to do, and complain about science.

[weebo]

Today I lost another work colleague and friend to this disease. And I don't understand why people keep arguing over this. I'm boots on the ground--I see this crap all day almost everyday. And what I see here is a bunch of "experts" who because the CDC said this, or I read the literature, I saw it on TV/internet, etc I know better blah blah blah. What you hear and what you see is not always what is happening but the truth is always somewhere in the middle. Should you be alarmed, concerned, worried, scared whatever? If you value your life and those of your own, then yes. Treat this as a threat. Play it safe. Follow standard precautions, social distance, stay home if you can... that's how you can help/protect yourself.
If you think this is the flu or a hoax, at least have the common decency to wear a mask out in public because some of us who don't agree with your stance are obligated to do our jobs--taking care of the sick, keeping the stores open, responding to emergencies, etc.
Also, I don't know about all of Texas, but the facilities/hospitals that I frequent are nearing capacity with COVID patients and I'm afraid that we're about to get crushed. I hope that isn't the case but I'm not feeling very optimistic. Hopefully, we can all find some common ground here--so we can get out of this. I'm tired.

[clambake]

I think this guy is trying to point out the colossal fuckup that is Donald Trump.

I’m convinced

[Play Boban]

Liberate Texas from our authoritarian governor!

[pgardn]

Today I lost another work colleague and friend to this disease. And I don't understand why people keep arguing over this. I'm boots on the ground--I see this crap all day almost everyday. And what I see here is a bunch of "experts" who because the CDC said this, or I read the literature, I saw it on TV/internet, etc I know better blah blah blah. What you hear and what you see is not always what is happening but the truth is always somewhere in the middle. Should you be alarmed, concerned, worried, scared whatever? If you value your life and those of your own, then yes. Treat this as a threat. Play it safe. Follow standard precautions, social distance, stay home if you can... that's how you can help/protect yourself.
If you think this is the flu or a hoax, at least have the common decency to wear a mask out in public because some of us who don't agree with your stance are obligated to do our jobs--taking care of the sick, keeping the stores open, responding to emergencies, etc.
Also, I don't know about all of Texas, but the facilities/hospitals that I frequent are nearing capacity with COVID patients and I'm afraid that we're about to get crushed. I hope that isn't the case but I'm not feeling very optimistic. Hopefully, we can all find some common ground here--so we can get out of this. I'm tired.

Ill tell you why.
It has been made political and we are in a very important election year.
We have a president who creates divisions, he won an election by creating divisions.
Sorry you have to see what you do, but welcome to the US under horrible LEADERSHIP.

There is no US trying to get through.

[pgardn]

Liberate Texas from our authoritarian governor!

Remove all interstate highways and privatize the new ones.

[Spurminator]

https://i.imgur.com/U8jyEjj.jpg

Historically it wasn't the older Americans testing positive at a higher rate. Is Blake saying that changed? Is it now 5 year olds?

If the overall death rate goes down but more older folks die of COVID, why, if more younger folks are now being infected?

Make it make sense, or just keep firing off random comments.

Aside from 0-17, these charts line up pretty evenly with the population % of each of these age groups.

[baseline bum]

Today I lost another work colleague and friend to this disease. And I don't understand why people keep arguing over this. I'm boots on the ground--I see this crap all day almost everyday. And what I see here is a bunch of "experts" who because the CDC said this, or I read the literature, I saw it on TV/internet, etc I know better blah blah blah. What you hear and what you see is not always what is happening but the truth is always somewhere in the middle. Should you be alarmed, concerned, worried, scared whatever? If you value your life and those of your own, then yes. Treat this as a threat. Play it safe. Follow standard precautions, social distance, stay home if you can... that's how you can help/protect yourself.
If you think this is the flu or a hoax, at least have the common decency to wear a mask out in public because some of us who don't agree with your stance are obligated to do our jobs--taking care of the sick, keeping the stores open, responding to emergencies, etc.
Also, I don't know about all of Texas, but the facilities/hospitals that I frequent are nearing capacity with COVID patients and I'm afraid that we're about to get crushed. I hope that isn't the case but I'm not feeling very optimistic. Hopefully, we can all find some common ground here--so we can get out of this. I'm tired.

Sorry to hear about your friend. Thank you for putting your life on the life to try to save our lives even if not all of us seem to value your work nor safety sadly.