Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[hater]

Porton Johnson about to make an emergency adress to UK

UK already told any citizens to came home NOW

Im calling that Bojo calls a total Brit shutdown (martial law) and upcoming shutdown of borders and airports


they must be about to get wrecked

I called it

and to those american idiots who want to “take it on the chin” and “but muh economy”

UK is our near future is probably 2 weks ahead of us, watch what would happen dummies

[Nathan89]

What bothers you about grants to states to check if election reaults are accurate?

That's irrelevant to the pandemic.

[Thread]

Porton Johnson about to make an emergency adress to UK

UK already told any citizens to came home NOW

Im calling that Bojo calls a total Brit shutdown (martial law) and upcoming shutdown of borders and airports


they must be about to get wrecked

I called it

and to those american idiots who want to “take it on the chin” and “but muh economy”

UK is our near future is probably 2 weks ahead of us, watch what would happen dummies

You said Italy was 2 weeks ahead of us 2 weeks ago.

[hater]

You said Italy was 2 weeks ahead of us 2 weeks ago.

italy is 2 weeks ahead of UK. UK 2 weeks ahead of US

[Thread]

italy is 2 weeks ahead of UK. UK 2 weeks ahead of US

According to you we should be Italy right now.

[DarrinS]

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-22/coronavirus-outbreak-nobel-laureate

[hater]

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-22/coronavirus-outbreak-nobel-laureate

his theory depends on china reporting correct #s

[boutons_deux]

Epidemiologist predicts recurring COVID-19 lockdowns for months

sporadic governmental lockdowns (https://www.businessinsider.com/countries-may-need-more-lockdowns-coronavirus-2020-3) may become a fact of life for months to come

until researchers come up with a bullet-proof COVID-19 vaccine.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/epidemiologist-predicts-recurring-covid-19-lockdowns-for-months-heres-why/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4061&recip_id=298460&list_id=1 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/epidemiologist-predicts-recurring-covid-19-lockdowns-for-months-heres-why/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4061&recip_id=298460&list_id=1)

[Nathan89]

You said Italy was 2 weeks ahead of us 2 weeks ago.

"Called it!" :lol

[boutons_deux]

The Most Bestest so-called People

‘Charlatan’ Larry Kudlow immediately mocked for claiming Trump ‘is right’ to say ‘cure can’t be worse than the disease’

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/charlatan-larry-kudlow-immediately-mocked-for-claiming-trump-is-right-to-say-cure-cant-be-worse-than-the-disease/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/charlatan-larry-kudlow-immediately-mocked-for-claiming-trump-is-right-to-say-cure-cant-be-worse-than-the-disease/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

============

Then there's Russian mafiya banker Wilbur Ross saying coronavirus will be good for the US economy and jobs

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/KatiePavlich/status/1242161503974961153?s=20

They don't even pretend to care.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/89903545_1367700573425090_4670783926606757888_o.jp g?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=BRtdu6RpjaIAX9z6GgF&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=2d0ec778be6f9b886feb360ea5742389&oe=5EA00011

[Thread]

https://twitter.com/KatiePavlich/status/1242161503974961153?s=20

They don't even pretend to care.

The USPS wipe out is indefensible.

Great find, Nathan.

Nathan

[vy65]

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-22/coronavirus-outbreak-nobel-laureate

paywall

[Winehole23]

I agree, but, that is what is going to happen.

R&D alike are mortified to cut these checks to Americans. It goes against every tenet (they've) ever practiced. (They) do not want us to (relax)...no, absolutely not. They want (industry/corporation) to relax as this catastrophe is processed. (We're) used to not relaxing during a lifetime of up & down. (industry/corporation) is not. "They're too big to fail."

(Us) failing is attractive fodder for Media---always has been.Letting Wall Street rip us off again while letting Main Street starve and die is more than fodder for the media and a much bigger threat to power than doing right by non-incorporated Americans.

[boutons_deux]

The Rise of Coronavirus Hate Crimes

as fear and anxiety about covid-19 (https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/convincing-boomer-parents-to-take-the-coronavirus-seriously) have spread, other incidents (https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/confronting-anti-asian-discrimination-during-the-coronavirus-crisis) have emerged in the U.K. and elsewhere.

Stop Hate U.K., an anti-hate group, he said his organization had seen a spike in hate crimes and incidents reported by Asian communities and individuals in the U.K.

“an upturn in concern and fear” from the Chinese community in London regarding wearing surgical masks.
“People that would normally wear masks are

now feeling that somehow they would become the target of abuse if they continued to do so,”

the Anti-Defamation League has been tracking racist memes and online activity directed toward Asian communities in reaction to the outbreak.

They’ve uncovered lurid cartoons depicting an Asian “Winnie the Flu,” mocking references to “bat soup,” and more violent imagery.

Some posts, they went on, “appear to be cheering on the virus, hoping it will spread to predominately non-white countries, such as those in Africa.”

throughout history, pandemics had often intensified discrimination against minorities.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-the-uk/the-rise-of-coronavirus-hate-crimes (https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-the-uk/the-rise-of-coronavirus-hate-crimes)

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1242142089225236483?s=19

[Winehole23]

The USPS wipe out is indefensible.

Great find, Nathan.Not only is it defensible, the debt jubilee should be much larger. Debts that can't be paid won't be.

Consider the German economic miracle of the 50s and 60s. It wouldn't have been possible without forgiving 90% of Germany's debts.

A debt jubilee here and now would strengthen consumers and the broader economy.

[boutons_deux]

The Federalist Asks:

Is America ‘Better Off’ Letting People Die From Coronavirus?

The Federalist published an article Monday that ​considers an argument

to​ consciously allow​ ​hundreds of thousands of people to die in the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic

if it mean​s Americans would regain a sense of normalcy.

“Probably almost everyone would be willing to live a somewhat shorter normal life

rather than a somewhat longer life under current conditions,”

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/the-federalist-asks-is-america-better-off-letting-people-die-from-coronavirus/ (https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/the-federalist-asks-is-america-better-off-letting-people-die-from-coronavirus/)

I suppose none of FedSoc members and fans are volunteering?

"All Y'all Are In This Together" :lol

[Spurs Homer]

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1242142089225236483?s=19


also- if dems had been in charge...

the pandemic team would have had the team in china LAST november

and the usa would have been far safer rt now

[hater]

wow hearing they canceled school years for many school systems until next year

there goes Trumps 2 weeks of shutdown :lmao :lmao :lmao

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s distrust of experts is why Jared Kushner is now overseeing the pandemic response


will likely impede the government’s efforts to stem the rising tide of coronavirus victims

as he chooses instead to hand off the critical response duties to son-in-law Jared Kushner (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/jared-kushner-convinced-trump-the-media-was-overhyping-coronavirus-threat-report/)

who has also been tasked with

corraling the opioid epidemic and

solving the Middle East conflict that has simmered for decades.

“The laws that govern emergencies like the coronavirus pandemic give enormous power to the executive branch to direct and coordinate disaster response.

These laws are not designed to empower the president personally,”

“To the contrary, the whole point of the emergency laws is to empower government experts who know what must be done in a crisis —

that is, career technocrats who work at agencies like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the federal emergency management agency (FEMA).

Congress doesn’t trust the president in an emergency.

It trusts the experts.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/trumps-distrust-of-experts-is-why-jared-kushner-is-now-overseeing-the-pandemic-response-columnist/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4061 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/trumps-distrust-of-experts-is-why-jared-kushner-is-now-overseeing-the-pandemic-response-columnist/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4061)

[spurraider21]

UVA Med just confirmed that they will be online only for the remainder of the semester. was previously indefinite.

[Winehole23]

That's irrelevant to the pandemic.Disagree.

COVID-19 may make in person voting too risky in November, to say nothing of the preceding primaries and special elections . If mail in or online systems have to be installed on the fly, it makes sense to give states money for auditing.

[picnroll]

Italy’s death and new case rate slowed today, is that a meaningless blip or have they turned the corner. If they’ve turned the corner will they maintain restricted social contact or go back to business as usual as our beloved loan kiter in chief leader would no doubt do?

[Winehole23]

Italy’s death and new case rate slowed today, is that a meaningless blip or have they turned the corner. If they’ve turned the corner will they maintain restricted social contact or go back to business as usual as our beloved loan kiter in chief leader would no doubt do?Italy's death rate has slowed once before...then it got worse.

I hope they do turn the corner. No telling what they'd do. Given that COVID-19 sticks around for 8-39 days after patients recover, I'd guess social restrictions would be lifted warily in Italy.

[TSA]

his theory depends on china reporting correct #s

“He analyzed data from 78 countries that reported more than 50 new cases of COVID-19 every day and sees “signs of recovery” in many of them. He’s not focusing on the total number of cases in a country, but on the number of new cases identified every day — and especially on the percentage growth in that number from one day to the next.”

[picnroll]

Italy's death rate has slowed once before...then it got worse.

I hope they do turn the corner. No telling what they'd do. Given that COVID-19 sticks around for 8-39 days after patients recover, I'd guess social restrictions would be lifted warily in Italy.

Way to soon to be sure but there is some reason to give those poor bastards some hope.

https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/Italymondythree.png?itok=5WMnfAhA

[Splits]

Way to soon to be sure but there is some reason to give those poor bastards some hope.

https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/Italymondythree.png?itok=5WMnfAhA

They're peaking on infections, maybe. Imagine the death counts in 2-4 weeks, when they're at ~700/day right now, it's going to double.

And US is doubling their infection counts today, even though we're 10 days behind.

[hater]

Porton Johnson speaking now

listen and learn ya “take it on chin” idiots

[picnroll]

They're peaking on infections, maybe. Imagine the death counts in 2-4 weeks, when they're at ~700/day right now, it's going to double.

And US is doubling their infection counts today, even though we're 10 days behind.

Deaths definitely lag infections. At the end for China they were reporting quite a few more deaths than new cases. I’d hate to be one of those poor bastards dying in critical care for a month.

US has grim, grim times ahead. Trump’s going to have a hard time pushing the back to work plan with all that casualty being reported. He’s make it real tough for the Democrats to choose which stupid presser remarks or twitter feeds to use for campaign ads.

[hater]

Porton Johnson about to make an emergency adress to UK

UK already told any citizens to came home NOW

Im calling that Bojo calls a total Brit shutdown (martial law) and upcoming shutdown of borders and airports


they must be about to get wrecked

I called it

and to those american idiots who want to “take it on the chin” and “but muh economy”

UK is our near future is probably 2 weks ahead of us, watch what would happen dummies

CALLED IT

MARTIAL LAW IN ALL OF QUEENS UNITED KINGDOM

[hater]

called it :tu

[MannyIsGod]

Deaths definitely lag infections. At the end for China they were reporting quite a few more deaths than new cases. I’d hate to be one of those poor bastards dying in critical care for a month.

US has grim, grim times ahead. Trump’s going to have a hard time pushing the back to work plan with all that casualty being reported. He’s make it real tough for the Democrats to choose which stupid presser remarks or twitter feeds to use for campaign ads.

I honestly don't get what they're thinking. You think people are going to work when this pandeic is explodig around us? When everyone is getting sick? How does that make sense to any of them. The economy is stopping one way or another. Either we try to save lives, or the econoy stops because people are dying and afraid as the disease explodes and our society literally crumbles. How is option #2 better to anyone?

[DarrinS]

Is Washington turning a corner?

See graph on this page. http://depts.washington.edu/labmed/covid19/

[TSA]

Way to soon to be sure but there is some reason to give those poor bastards some hope.

https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/Italymondythree.png?itok=5WMnfAhA

https://mobile.twitter.com/MicheleZanini/status/1242169789277179905

[hater]

Herd immunity strategy just got bent over and fucked raw

:lol

[vy65]

CALLED IT

MARTIAL LAW IN ALL OF QUEENS UNITED KINGDOM

HATER DOESN'T KNOW WHAT MARTIAL LAW IS

CALLED IT :tu

[hater]

called it

https://twitter.com/t0nit0ne/status/1242188064593793035?s=21

[MannyIsGod]

Is Washington turning a corner?

See graph on this page. http://depts.washington.edu/labmed/covid19/

They started the shut downs first I believe. Would make sense. UW scientists seemed really on the ball early there.

[ElNono]

So turns out that the famed half a billion slush fund is now a $4 trillion slush fund.

Mnuchin says is "not a slush fund" but a "mechanism" to "insert market liquidity"... :lol

[Will Hunting]

So turns out that the famed half a billion slush fund is now a $4 trillion slush fund.

Mnuchin says is "not a slush fund" but a "mechanism" to "insert market liquidity"... :lol
:lmao giving the treasury a blank check to assist whatever industry/business it wants to help out.

This is about as socialist as it gets :lol

[DarrinS]

Pretty smart, tbh. And wastes less PPE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-33i9B8m6E

[slick'81]

Pretty smart, tbh. And wastes less PPE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-33i9B8m6E

damn that looks scary af

[Thread]

Not only is it defensible, the debt jubilee should be much larger. Debts that can't be paid won't be.

Consider the German economic miracle of the 50s and 60s. It wouldn't have been possible without forgiving 90% of Germany's debts.

A debt jubilee here and now would strengthen consumers and the broader economy.

Then all debt should be wiped.

[Winehole23]

They started the shut downs first I believe. Would make sense. UW scientists seemed really on the ball early there.Looks about right.



On February 29, Washington health officials made the first announcement of a death from COVID-19 in the United States.

Santa Clara Co, CA (Feb 10th; much of the rest of California would do so by the end of the month) declared the emergency sooner, but didn't issue social distancing guidelines until March 9th.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_California

[Thread]

So turns out that the famed half a billion slush fund is now a $4 trillion slush fund.

Mnuchin says is "not a slush fund" but a "mechanism" to "insert market liquidity"... :lol

...then it should not be passed. There is no hurry. (We've) missed 1 check, maybe less.

(No slush fund) Every dime should be assigned a mission with a name on it that is irrevocable.

And-&-but, they're both (R&D) playing a game on the 330 million of us,,,heading for the same goal:::slush fund.

[Winehole23]

Then all debt should be wiped.Not gonna happen, but sure, why not?

[Isitjustme?]

This guy can read 1100 pages in under 1 hour!

1242129811688099840

[ElNono]

...then it should not be passed. There is no hurry. (We've) missed 1 check, maybe less.

(No slush fund) Every dime should be assigned a mission with a name on it that is irrevocable.

And-&-but, they're both (R&D) playing a game on the 330 million of us,,,heading for the same goal:::slush fund.

Shoulder to shoulder on this one. Both sides playing games, by the time this is done and sealed, there's not gonna be anything left for us poor schmucks.

"We saved the economy! but all the patients died".

[Winehole23]

So turns out that the famed half a billion slush fund is now a $4 trillion slush fund.

Mnuchin says is "not a slush fund" but a "mechanism" to "insert market liquidity"... :lol If something similar gets spent on the rest of us, so be it, but man, what a grift!

[Blake]

1242088448346988546

Keep doing your thing, MAGAts

WELL YEAH IT'S THE CHINESE VIRUS

[Thread]

Shoulder to shoulder on this one. Both sides playing games, by the time this is done and sealed, there's not gonna be anything left for us poor schmucks.

"We saved the economy! but all the patients died".

Yep. (They) want to find that peace, that sense of contentment in the midst of calamity. Not for (us), but, for them & the corporations. What they're doing now is throwing up a smokescreen, a play, a professional rasslin' show, settin' us against one another till they can tamp it & us down long enough to get it down like they want it.

Fuckin' shame.

ADDENDUM:::And CNN is in on it, by God. They was out front BIG TIME this morning with the Fed doing all that shit on small loans. Yeah, see that's so when the D's & R's started arguing with each other (we'd) be cognizant that (we) could get a loan, at a small, or, maybe even flat interest rate. WOO HOO! My ass, they're gonna guard those fuckin' loans with all their might, and the Interest might be minimal, but, the fees are going to be there, absolutely for sure.

[Fabbs]

An iota of sincerity and they would pass a $$ bill for the people NOW.

Argue their corporate giveaway on a completely separate bill.

[Thread]

An iota of sincerity and they would pass a $$ bill for the people NOW.

Argue their corporate giveaway on a completely separate bill.

Exactly, Fabbs. Precisely.

Fabbs

[slick'81]

https://youtu.be/ojrtwXqqc6g

[ducks]

So the donkeys want to put climate bill in the stimulus bill
Talk about being studid

[ducks]

An iota of sincerity and they would pass a $$ bill for the people NOW.

Argue their corporate giveaway on a completely separate bill.

So the donkeys want to put climate bill in the stimulus bill
Talk about being studid

[TheGreatYacht]

So I've heard Republicans want to give less money (pocket change) to the really poor who pay no income tax and that is why Democrats refuse to pass the bill. Does this still hold true or did Republicans already agree to send checks to EVERYONE who makes less than $75k for the SAME amount? Anyone know the details?

[boutons_deux]

Has Trash or the White House publicly thanked Jack Ma and Italy for donating masks and tests to enfeebled, dysfunctional USA?

[boutons_deux]

Nigeria records chloroquine poisoning

after Trump endorses it for coronavirus treatment


https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/africa/chloroquine-trump-nigeria-intl/index.html

[Fabbs]

Nigeria records chloroquine poisoning

after Trump endorses it for coronavirus treatment


https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/africa/chloroquine-trump-nigeria-intl/index.html
What a pathetic misleading headline.

[boutons_deux]

Anchors Liz Claman and Charles Payne join Lou Dobbs in quarantine as coronavirus spreads through Fox Business
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/anchors-liz-claman-and-charles-payne-join-lou-dobbs-in-quarantine-as-coronavirus-spreads-through-fox-business/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4066

[Blake]

What a pathetic misleading headline.

How so? After reading the article, it seems on point to me

[Spurtacular]

So I've heard Republicans want to give less money (pocket change) to the really poor who pay no income tax and that is why Democrats refuse to pass the bill. Does this still hold true or did Republicans already agree to send checks to EVERYONE who makes less than $75k for the SAME amount? Anyone know the details?

:lmao Democrats will do anything to get their zombie in the White House.
:lmao Anyone believing that Dems give a fuck.

[boutons_deux]

1242223550813163521

[picnroll]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/us/coronavirus-healthcare-supply-shortage-workers-at-risk-invs/index.html

Every spring breaker, party goer, quarantine breaker, the fucking bone spurs, ass wipe Trump should be forced to read this

[ChumpDumper]

1242223550813163521Oh he's gonna do it. No doubt in my mind.

[slick'81]

1242223550813163521

no fckn way

still a little bit around!?

[Thread]

Oh he's gonna do it. No doubt in my mind.

He won't. He's playin' possum, Dumps. He'll talk big thru the weekend, then (((pseudo back down))) come Monday afternoon. "Mel talked me out of it."

"My daughter talked me out of it."

[ChumpDumper]

He won't. He's playin' possum, Dumps. He'll talk big thru the weekend, then (((pseudo back down))) come Monday afternoon. "Mel talked me out of it."

"My daughter talked me out of it."Nope, if he thinks he can get away with it he'll do it.

One-man death panel.

[Reck]

The new cases to recovered ratio is not looking too bad now.

US now reporting 120+ people have recovered.

[Thread]

Nope, if he thinks he can get away with it he'll do it.

One-man death panel.

No. It's just too early, Dumps. Too cockeyed. Doesn't feel right & a blind man can see that.

He has yet to accept the death of his Stock Market & that's why he's talking (crazy) like this. He will not turn from that conflagration & face Corona. So, he exists twixt the 2 masters. One dead/DOW & one deadly/Corona.

It's like in that movie: "The Man Who Would be King"...Sean Connery becomes drunk with power & will not flee from the mantle of that power even though he is flirting recklessly with his own demise and that of his #1, Michael Caine. Caine repeatedly implores him to come away from it, to take their booty and return to Anglo Saxon civilization, but, Connery is adamant, he's not even close to going.

Total loss.

[hater]

No. It's just too early, Dumps. Too cockeyed. Doesn't feel right & a blind man can see that.

He has yet to accept the death of his Stock Market & that's why he's talking (crazy) like this. He will not turn from that conflagration & face Corona. So, he exists twixt the 2 masters. One dead/DOW & one deadly/Corona.

It's like in that movie: "The Man Who Would be King"...Sean Connery becomes drunk with power & will not flee from the mantle of that power even though he is flirting recklessly with his own demise and that of his #1, Michael Caine. Caine repeatedly implores him to come away from it, to take their booty and return to Anglo Saxon civilization, but, Connery is adamant, he's not even close to going.

Total loss.

Giuseppe

[DarrinS]

The new cases to recovered ratio is not looking too bad now.

US now reporting 120+ people have recovered.


Probably in the hundreds of thousands, if you consider how many never have to be hospitalized.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Real talk at what point does someone pull a Brutus lmao
We were always talking about a scenario where trump pressing a button to launch nukes would bring about a global Armageddon, what if it's him ordering mass death via violation of quarantine?

[Isitjustme?]

"Conservatives are getting better at comedy and its making lefties nervous."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET0Kt9WWkAIfcyF?format=jpg&name=large

[hater]

https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1242123390074454017?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1242034725432233984?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/bahadir_oncu/status/1242208410956967939?s=21

[hater]

God bless Cuba

https://twitter.com/stepstobecome/status/1242044762783387648?s=21

[hater]

Trump bodycount tbqh

https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1242274696722370565?s=21

[slick'81]

Trump bodycount tbqh

https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1242274696722370565?s=21


So fckn sad

[Reck]

Trump bodycount tbqh

https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1242274696722370565?s=21

WINNING!

[ChumpDumper]

Trump bodycount tbqh

https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1242274696722370565?s=21Bound to happen.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1242246106198626304?s=19

Dems are sick puppies

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1242260228151947273?s=19

[TSA]

Trump bodycount tbqh

https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1242274696722370565?s=21


“The toxic ingredient they consumed was not the medication form of chloroquine, used to treat malaria in humans. Instead, it was an ingredient listed on a parasite treatment for fish.”

[ChumpDumper]

“The toxic ingredient they consumed was not the medication form of chloroquine, used to treat malaria in humans. Instead, it was an ingredient listed on a parasite treatment for fish.”Still semen shielding.

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1242260228151947273?s=19

Florida used them just fine. I bet you rather cancel the election.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1242260228151947273?s=19Why would voting by mail cost anything?

That's a poll tax.

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1242246106198626304?s=19

Dems are sick puppies

Lol Chris loves him some Hollywood opinions

[hater]

“The toxic ingredient they consumed was not the medication form of chloroquine, used to treat malaria in humans. Instead, it was an ingredient listed on a parasite treatment for fish.”

so Trump killed the fish as well

[ElNono]

“The toxic ingredient they consumed was not the medication form of chloroquine, used to treat malaria in humans. Instead, it was an ingredient listed on a parasite treatment for fish.”

Which is exactly why you need medical professionals handling this, instead of self-medicating.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1242246106198626304?s=19

Dems are sick puppiesThe phone program started under Bush.

Trump supporters are stupid puppies.

[DMC]

Darwin Awards.

Waiting for someone to drink bleach.

[DMX7]

https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1242123390074454017?s=21

LOL hater. Posting Russian State TV clips flattering itself.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/philipaklein/status/1242267581580541952?s=20

Bunch impartial people blaming Trump for idiots self medicating on fish tank cleaner. :bobo

[boutons_deux]

The phone program started under Bush.

Trump supporters are stupid puppies.


The FCC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Communications_Commission) established the Lifeline program in 1984 during the Ronald Reagan Administration (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Ronald_Reagan)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifeline_(FCC_program) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifeline_(FCC_program))

[Mark Celibate]

He won't. He's playin' possum, Dumps. He'll talk big thru the weekend, then (((pseudo back down))) come Monday afternoon. "Mel talked me out of it."

"My daughter talked me out of it."

yep, he's just BS'ing around.

He's not that stupid. All he's trying to do with that comment is top the market from plummeting into a smoking hole. Maybe even get it to come up a few points.

[ChumpDumper]

The FCC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Communications_Commission) established the Lifeline program in 1984 during the Ronald Reagan Administration (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Ronald_Reagan)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifeline_(FCC_program) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifeline_(FCC_program))thx. Not sure if that included cell phones back then.

[SnakeBoy]

RIP Spain


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1pX-mPydJU&feature=emb_logo

[Thread]

yep, he's just BS'ing around.

He's not that stupid. All he's trying to do with that comment is top the market from plummeting into a smoking hole. Maybe even get it to come up a few points.

The problem is the market is no longer moored. The days of controlling it whatsoever, much less like he was able to do for 3+ years are over.
Frankly, he's deluding himself. He has not reckoned that bitter reality yet. It's understandable. It was everything. There-was-nothing-else.
His vanity is exposed in-the-raw.
He takes his vengeance each day thru the Press Briefing. Found the spot quite by accident. "Fuck them I ain't goin' out there and facing this Crash."

"Sir, you have to. You have to head up the Task Force. Sir, please."

"Fuckin' fine! Let's go. 20 minutes tops & then I'm going up to the residence."

"Yes, sir."

From that lectern he can take vengeance, on Media, on the opposition. "Fuck it, I'll stay out there for 90 minutes so it's just like a Rally."

He baits Media, waits patiently for them to bait him! Yes! He ain't no country preacher. Sometimes you don't even see it coming till they bite & he's in, tight.

Last week CNN smelled a rat and threatened not to carry the presser anymore, but, they can't do that and THEY&HE knows it.

It's his salve. He has a control now. He even relives the DOW standing there & nobody can stop him.

I understand it. We've all lost an "everything" like that. It's human, terribly so.

[ElNono]

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This is commendable, hopefully there's more of this and less of Dr Trump.

[SnakeBoy]

1242202291718979587

This is commendable, hopefully there's more of this and less of Dr Trump.

What do you mean by Dr. Trump?

[ElNono]

What do you mean by Dr. Trump?

https://apnews.com/432a37435f28015e8b45eeff710cd254

https://theweek.com/speedreads/900702/trump-says-doctors-keep-asking-how-knows-much-about-coronavirus

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/MailOnline/status/1242287812386394114?s=20

Honestly don't know what China was trying to achieve by locking everything down till absolute zero.

[Reck]

1242291539767771137

Can you imagine having to give up your hospital bed to another person just because he's younger. The same faggots who aren't taking this seriously are the ones getting saved. Nice

[ElNono]

Honestly don't know what China was trying to achieve by locking everything down till absolute zero.

They drastically slowed down the spread of infections, AFAIK.

[Reck]

We'll be ahead of Italy in cases reported by Tomorrow night.

[DarrinS]

We'll be ahead of Italy in cases reported by Tomorrow night.

We're a much larger country, Reck.

[slick'81]

We're a much larger country, Reck.

Still not worried huh D

[Reck]

We're a much larger country, Reck.

Odd response but ok and so what?

We've gone from well Italy is too old to, Italy is unhygienic to, the USA is a bigger country. No kidding, man.

The good thing I'm seeing though is that we're now seeing the recovery numbers going up as well.

[ElNono]

We're a much larger country, Reck.

Does this hold if we pass China in cases?

[DarrinS]

Does this hold if we pass China in cases?

You trust their numbers?

[Reck]

You trust their numbers?

Lying no longers suits their purposes.

[DarrinS]

Still not worried huh D

Just math, dude

[ElNono]

You trust their numbers?

If they're not anywhere near accurate, we're in for a much uglier couple of months then.

[Isitjustme?]

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https://i.redd.it/korwhideaeo41.jpg

[SnakeBoy]

https://apnews.com/432a37435f28015e8b45eeff710cd254

https://theweek.com/speedreads/900702/trump-says-doctors-keep-asking-how-knows-much-about-coronavirus

Hydroxychlororuine + zithro is looking very promising. What Trump did was give point of care physicians the cover to start providing it as a treatment option. It's the 2nd best thing he's done in this crisis next to the trravel bans. It's very hard for a physician to deny patient requested approved drugs even for off label use (liability. Researchers like Fauci what time & lengthy studies with control groups. Letting people die is just the price of data to them.

[ChumpDumper]

Hydroxychlororuine + zithro is looking very promising. What Trump did was give point of care physicians the cover to start providing it as a treatment option. It's the 2nd best thing he's done in this crisis next to the trravel bans. It's very hard for a physician to deny patient requested approved drugs even for off label use (liability. Researchers like Fauci what time & lengthy studies with control groups. Letting people die is just the price of data to them.Trump gave them cover for doing things they already did without him?

Keep reaching.

[Reck]

Hydroxychlororuine + zithro is looking very promising. What Trump did was give point of care physicians the cover to start providing it as a treatment option. It's the 2nd best thing he's done in this crisis next to the trravel bans. It's very hard for a physician to deny patient requested approved drugs even for off label use (liability. Researchers like Fauci what time & lengthy studies with control groups. Letting people die is just the price of data to them.

Yeah at best, taking the thing won't do anything to alleviate the virus or at worst, you're dead.

Godking Trump!

[ElNono]

Hydroxychlororuine + zithro is looking very promising. What Trump did was give point of care physicians the cover to start providing it as a treatment option. It's the 2nd best thing he's done in this crisis next to the trravel bans. It's very hard for a physician to deny patient requested approved drugs even for off label use (liability. Researchers like Fauci what time & lengthy studies with control groups. Letting people die is just the price of data to them.

So many things wrong with this. The POTUS does not have the authority to 'cover' any doctor for liability. Nor he has the authority to approve any treatment, not to mention, he's not even educated in what he's saying, even if, by pure sheer luck, he ends up being correct.

That 'data' is exactly what separates 'very promising' to 'actually works'. And now we have a drug that requires prescription and monitoring from healthcare professionals, but we have people actually self-medicating, and dying off it.

This is why we can't have adlib communicators in a crisis, especially when we're well aware a good portion of his listeners are dumb as hell. His own head doctor is telling him to basically shut the hell up because I have to jump in and correct what you just said.

Look, I get that he wants to show up to appear that he's in control of anything, he has a big re-election coming up, and he can't have his rallies right now. Just step to the side, show the world how you picked the best people for the job, and let the pros do their job.

[ElNono]

And please, please, POTUS needs to stop pretending he know anything about medicine or science. If somebody is asking him "how come you know so much about the virus", it's because he's trying to kiss ass, not because he really thinks that.

[monosylab1k]

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1242263717418434561?s=21
The Pro-Life Party :lol

[boutons_deux]

Big Controversy in France

Is Hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 Really the Answer?

https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=229156

[hater]

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1242263717418434561?s=21
The Pro-Life Party :lol

:lol

[hater]

i have a good feeling nigas

in about 3 weeks we will have peaked and in 2 months we will have a plan to slowly ease quarantines

in 3 months we will be back to work

I am not ready to call it but I see a slimmer of light in the tunnel

will keep simulating and calculating before making official call....

[weebo]

i have a good feeling nigas

in about 3 weeks we will have peaked and in 2 months we will have a plan to slowly ease quarantines

in 3 months we will be back to work

I am not ready to call it but I see a slimmer of light in the tunnel

will keep simulating and calculating before making official call....

thanks man :lol

[pgardn]

i have a good feeling nigas

in about 3 weeks we will have peaked and in 2 months we will have a plan to slowly ease quarantines

in 3 months we will be back to work

I am not ready to call it but I see a slimmer of light in the tunnel

will keep simulating and calculating before making official call....

Which parts of the country will have peaked, and which parts will be lagging and ready for the virus to bust out?
The US is a large country, very densely populated in some areas and very spread out in others. We are not all on the same “viral” time frame necessarily.

You think SA will have peaked in 3 weeks? Or just counting on our seasonal climate change to be a big factor in halting this virus just like it does to the flu and cold viruses?

Im hoping for a seasonal change to lower the infection rate. But that’s just hoping because this virus is like other viruses AND very different as well (if you have read the biology up to this point)

So I look forward to your list of the 20 most densely populated areas and when you think it’s back to business as usual.

Niga...

[hater]

thanks man :lol

:tu

[MannyIsGod]

ALl thats happening here is that Trump is panicked and has no sense of how to deal with it. This is why one day he seems level headed, but the next its onto a new strategy an then the next day he's rambling about reopening the country or whatever nonsense he feels at that moment. There's absolutely no way the economy can function like normal with this crisis present. Are you going to go sit in a crowded restaurant right now? I'm not. Are you going to go sit in a movie theater? Nope. What about a big purchase like a house? Yeah right. Maybe a car then? A boat? Laughable. Is oil about to rebound? No, so then gas will be cheap and maybe people will go on a vacation right? You gonna board a plane? A cruise ship?

The economy is going to tank whether or not we practice social distancing. The question is do you want to completely collapse the health care system and end up with millions (not a million, but MILLIONS) dead as a result. Do you want to deal with the fallout that comes from both of those situations? And its not just your grand parents. Its going to be anyone who needs medical care in a serious situation and can't get it because the system has collapsed. Its going to be anyone who has a survivable heart attack that all of a sudden isn't survivable because there's no care. Its going to be anyone who gets into a serious car wreck but can't get access to trauma care that they need.

How is this even debatable? Even with the measures we put in, the medical system in NYC is likely to be overwhelmed in the next 2 weeks and they want to go back to leaving this thing unchecked? Insane. Trump loves to fancy himself a wartime president but holy fuck imagine if this guy had been in place during WW2. We would have surrendered to the Japanese on day 1.

[MannyIsGod]

I'll say this, the governors response haven't exactly broken down party lines. Some members of the GOP have been on the ball, and there are Democratic governors who have been slow to react. We're seeing those who are capable of leading regardless of party affiliation.

[boutons_deux]

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Coronavirus attacks Dallas social scene while putting neighborhood bars, workers on the brink (http://link.dallasnews.com/lt.php?i=7962A8457A27A265894)



















https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/03/21/texas-was-promised-more-coronavirus-tests-these-sick-residents-are-still-waiting-and-may-never-get-one/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Gov++Abbott+asked+to+order+statewide+s helter+in+place%2C+Paxton+stops+abortions+due+to+c oronavirus%2C+runoff+elections+postponed&utm_campaign=Politics_03242020

[hater]

If Orangegutan wants to restart things his stupid ass needs to open a gigafactory for masks and other equipment first the doctors can use but then civilians can easily obtain.

If all of us are easily able to get masks/gloves we can easily restart most our communal lives with no problem

why is govenment so stupid?

[hater]

instead of burning thru trillions pumping the scam stock market, open 3 gigafactories for medical supplies, employ 200,000 workers, case solved

[boutons_deux]

If Orangegutan wants to restart things his stupid ass needs to open a gigafactory for masks and other equipment first the doctors can use but then civilians can easily obtain.

If all of us are easily able to get masks/gloves we can easily restart most our communal lives with no problem

why is govenment so stupid?

masks and gloves are mostly useless, even counterproductive, for healthy people.

Best is for infected people and healthcare workers, and Trash won't even help them.

scammer fraud thief Trash getting Free Stuff from Jack Ma and Italy.

[Splits]

1242439080836771841

You just know Trump is going to see this and be trying to get his fat ass in PPE within 24 hours.

[Bill_Brasky]

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1242263717418434561?s=21
The Pro-Life Party :lol

Trump, Abbot, and Danny Goeb are all republicans who preach that the government doesn't work, and get elected to prove it.

Remember when we couldn't have a "patchwork of laws" because Austin wanted a plastic bag ban? Now apparently it's just fine to let localities do their own thing in the face of a deadly pandemic.

Fuck those pieces of absolute shit.

[hater]

great fucking stuff

https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest

[boutons_deux]

Trump, Abbot, and Danny Goeb are all republicans who preach that the government doesn't work, and get elected to prove it.

Remember when we couldn't have a "patchwork of laws" because Austin wanted a plastic bag ban? Now apparently it's just fine to let localities do their own thing in the face of a deadly pandemic.

Fuck those pieces of absolute shit.

yep, Repug/oligarchy strategy for decades has been to tell people to hate govt as capable of doing nothing good, right, and when in office they intentionally MISgovern to prove to people why they should hate govt

The patchwork bullshit spewed for plastic bags and rideshare b/g checks.

Blacks won a bunch offices in Houston, so now Repugs plan to block elections to be replaced by appointments by Repugs

Free market? fuck that shit

Want to buy a Tesla? can't do it, says the Automobile Dealers Assoc

city wants to run its own non-profit municipal network? verboten, says BigNetwork

Texas is a shithole elected by shitbag Repug voters

[hater]

:lmao Bolsonaro

still has yet to impose curfew so Criminal Gangs in Rio impose it themselves in efforts to curb Corona infections :lol

https://twitter.com/AndrewCesare/status/1242174265547468803?s=20


we need the bloods, crips, M and Salvatrucha to unite in order to fight coronavirus in USA

[SnakeBoy]

So many things wrong with this. The POTUS does not have the authority to 'cover' any doctor for liability. Nor he has the authority to approve any treatment, not to mention, he's not even educated in what he's saying, even if, by pure sheer luck, he ends up being correct.

That 'data' is exactly what separates 'very promising' to 'actually works'. And now we have a drug that requires prescription and monitoring from healthcare professionals, but we have people actually self-medicating, and dying off it.

This is why we can't have adlib communicators in a crisis, especially when we're well aware a good portion of his listeners are dumb as hell. His own head doctor is telling him to basically shut the hell up because I have to jump in and correct what you just said.

Look, I get that he wants to show up to appear that he's in control of anything, he has a big re-election coming up, and he can't have his rallies right now. Just step to the side, show the world how you picked the best people for the job, and let the pros do their job.

Yeah we must spend a year collecting data. Let them die for science.

If you end up gasping for breath I'm sure you'll tell the Doc not to try common safe drugs that might help until they have data.

[Winehole23]

ALl thats happening here is that Trump is panicked and has no sense of how to deal with it. This is why one day he seems level headed, but the next its onto a new strategy an then the next day he's rambling about reopening the country or whatever nonsense he feels at that moment. There's absolutely no way the economy can function like normal with this crisis present. Are you going to go sit in a crowded restaurant right now? I'm not. Are you going to go sit in a movie theater? Nope. What about a big purchase like a house? Yeah right. Maybe a car then? A boat? Laughable. Is oil about to rebound? No, so then gas will be cheap and maybe people will go on a vacation right? You gonna board a plane? A cruise ship?

The economy is going to tank whether or not we practice social distancing. The question is do you want to completely collapse the health care system and end up with millions (not a million, but MILLIONS) dead as a result. Do you want to deal with the fallout that comes from both of those situations? And its not just your grand parents. Its going to be anyone who needs medical care in a serious situation and can't get it because the system has collapsed. Its going to be anyone who has a survivable heart attack that all of a sudden isn't survivable because there's no care. Its going to be anyone who gets into a serious car wreck but can't get access to trauma care that they need.

How is this even debatable? Even with the measures we put in, the medical system in NYC is likely to be overwhelmed in the next 2 weeks and they want to go back to leaving this thing unchecked? Insane. Trump loves to fancy himself a wartime president but holy fuck imagine if this guy had been in place during WW2. We would have surrendered to the Japanese on day 1.DJT, the day before yesterday: we're at war with a virus, and we're going beat it

DJT yesterday: (waving the white flag) Back to work, plebes, you're killing the economy.

Your point that we're already in a recession is salient; calling off social distancing prematurely could end up making it worse.

[boutons_deux]

The total humanitarian failure of Capitalism exposed for those with eyes

Nearly all the benefits of inhumane, anti-human Capitalism go to the Capitalists, who now want Labor to risk their health and lives so Capitalists can keep Capital flowing to Capitalists.

[Winehole23]

DJT, the day before yesterday: we're at war with a virus, and we're going beat it

DJT yesterday: (waving the white flag) Back to work, plebes, you're killing the economy.

Your point that we're already in a recession is salient; calling off social distancing prematurely could end up making it worse.Fortunately, Trump can't call off state and municipal restrictions. If calls off the federal guidelines in a week, he'll blame the states and cities for the recession.

If social distancing is by some miracle successful, the hoax narrative comes back in, MAGAs will accuse the media, cities and states of plotting against DJT.

[boutons_deux]

‘I saved thousands of lives’: :lol

Trump demands credit for his handling of coronavirus in Twitter tantrum

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/i-saved-thousands-of-lives-trump-demands-credit-for-his-handling-of-coronavirus-in-twitter-tantrum/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4070 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/i-saved-thousands-of-lives-trump-demands-credit-for-his-handling-of-coronavirus-in-twitter-tantrum/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4070)

As the Covid-19 Great Depression deepens and lengthens in 2020, as Trash's reelection becomes impossible,

Trash's fantasies will prove to doubters that he's fucking mentally deranged, a deeply ill motherfucker.

[boutons_deux]

the oligarchy speaks, Trash listens

Trump won’t require firms to help fight coronavirus —
after corporations lobbied Jared Kushner

Trump signed (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-signed-defense-production-act-case/story?id=69670828) the Defense Production Act,

Trump falsely compared (https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/23/819926854/fact-check-trump-compares-defense-production-act-to-nationalization) the law to nationalizing businesses :lol

the law provides loan guarantees and protections for companies that cooperate.

It would prevent what New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo has described as a “mad bidding war” (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/mar/23/coronavirus-us-live-news-updates-donald-trump-fauci-us-cities-spike-cases?page=with:block-5e78e5ae8f0887f6e2b5c0ce) between states to secure critical equipment like masks and ventilators and

allow the federal government to better control the distribution of this equipment to states that need it most.

Kushner “has thrown out the established government plan for dealing with pandemics, after concluding it was insufficient.”

Kushner and other aides pushed for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) :lol

to take over for the Department of Health and Human Services in overseeing the response effort.

resulted in

FEMA overseeing an operation it is not equipped to handle and

companies confused over how to proceed,

FEMA “likely won’t know a thing about medical supply chains and devices,”

companies that have offered to help may take months to set up the necessary manufacturing equipment to produce what the government needs.

Without the Defense Authorization Act, industry executives say that

companies “are reluctant to crank up production lines without purchasing guarantees from the government,” which the law would provide.

“three to five months to obtain and install the necessary equipment and begin production” on items like the N95 masks.

GM and Ford declined to say how quickly they would be able to start production while Ford added that it was still assessing whether it is able to produce ventilators.

“If the president doesn’t act, people will die who could have lived otherwise — senior citizens,

Trump’s refusal to invoke the law has led to bidding wars between states for vital equipment,

leaving some unable to get the supplies they need and others paying exorbitant prices.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/trump-wont-require-firms-to-help-fight-coronavirus-after-corporations-lobbied-jared-kushner/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4070

[DarrinS]

I wish this wasn't paywalled

https://www.wsj.com/articles/these-drugs-are-helping-our-coronavirus-patients-11584899438

[monosylab1k]

Act now!*






























*if it makes Trump look good, otherwise fuck it.

[Splits]

1242478351861919744

boom

[boutons_deux]

1242478351861919744

boom

I expect Trash to order this Exec to prioritize red states, and starve blue states.

[CosmicCowboy]

I expect Trash to order this Exec to prioritize red states, and starve blue states.

You would.

[Thread]

1242478351861919744

boom

The more stagnant the death count the more political Cuomo acts.

Thank heavens.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

instead of burning thru trillions pumping the scam stock market, open 3 gigafactories for medical supplies, employ 200,000 workers, case solved

You'll need millions of masks and gloves and proper adherence to sanitation guidelines for those factories to work but it is possible.
We're so capable as a society of rising up to the task we seem to lack the proper leadership, however.

[Nathan89]

1242478351861919744

boom

The guy isn't very good at math.

[weebo]

I wish this wasn't paywalled

https://www.wsj.com/articles/these-drugs-are-helping-our-coronavirus-patients-11584899438



https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/who-launches-global-megatrial-four-most-promising-coronavirus-treatments

[Thread]

You'll need millions of masks and gloves and proper adherence to sanitation guidelines for those factories to work but it is possible.
We're so capable as a society of rising up to the task we seem to lack the proper leadership, however.

Well, Obama proved it out during his tenure when he sent over 12.5k Americans to their death & kept all the doors wide open.

[Thread]

The guy isn't very good at math.

Now he'll call the old man like nothing happened. & the old man? He'll act like nothing happened.

2 trillion is on the way.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Well, Obama proved it out during his tenure when he sent over 12.5k Americans to their death & kept all the doors wide open.

blocked

[Thread]

blocked

Only pussies & assholes use the [Ignore] function.

[boutons_deux]

blocked

:lol you're VERY late

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/ShimonPro/status/1242472860557496320?s=20

[LaMarcus Bryant]

This is probably already an out-dated term but what's the data look like for how "Far behind" Texas urban areas are from NYC and Italy?

Felt like a week ago people were saying we were 2 weeks behind places like Seattle. could have been BS

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1242475134717513730?s=20

:lmao

[ElNono]

Yeah we must spend a year collecting data. Let them die for science.

If you end up gasping for breath I'm sure you'll tell the Doc not to try common safe drugs that might help until they have data.

Doctors can already make that call, and will request a waiver from you, letting you know you're a guinea pig. There's no point in spreading false hope when we still don't know if any of these drugs are anything beyond 'promising'.

[Splits]

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/who-launches-global-megatrial-four-most-promising-coronavirus-treatments

Hopefully the trial meets its endpoints.


Novartis To Donate Up To 130 Million Doses Of Hydroxychloroquine For COVID-19 (https://business.medicaldialogues.in/pharma-news/novartis-to-donate-up-to-130-million-doses-of-hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19-64170)

By Medical Dialogues BureauPublished On 24 March 2020 5:30 AM | Updated On 24 March 2020 5:30 AM

[boutons_deux]

This is probably already an out-dated term but what's the data look like for how "Far behind" Texas urban areas are from NYC and Italy?

Felt like a week ago people were saying we were 2 weeks behind places like Seattle. could have been BS

your disappointment is noted

time will tell,

exponential infection rates.

Detected infections are supposedly 1/10 or 1/5 of total infections.

And how widely available in Texas are test kits?

how many tested positive vs how many total tests?

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1242480509923381248?s=20

[DarrinS]

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/who-launches-global-megatrial-four-most-promising-coronavirus-treatments

Thanks :tu

[vy65]

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/who-launches-global-megatrial-four-most-promising-coronavirus-treatments

Stocked up (literally) my position in GILD. Come on remdesivir.

[Winehole23]

Stocked up (literally) my position in GILD. Come on remdesivir.Why did Gilead get a monopoly? The USG doesn't hand out many of those.

[vy65]

Why did Gilead get a monopoly? The USG doesn't hand out many of those.

It's their drug. Are you asking why does a pharmaceutical company get property rights in drugs it develops?

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/calculatedrisk/status/1242200823204999168?s=20

The amount of tests have increased 5x in the last 6 days.

[hater]

You'll need millions of masks and gloves and proper adherence to sanitation guidelines for those factories to work but it is possible.
We're so capable as a society of rising up to the task we seem to lack the proper leadership, however.

billions but if its between that or keep shut down its a no brainer

pkus whole new industries would be formed employing millions

[SnakeBoy]

Why did Gilead get a monopoly? The USG doesn't hand out many of those.

The NIH immediately focused on remdesivir ignoring the same demonstrated efficacy in vitro of the old (and cheap) chloroquine drugs. Remdesivir is an expensive treatment, intravenous only and daily, US based company. One can only speculate as to why. Personally I think it has more to do with "shiny new toy" syndrome prevalent in the research community than money.

[SpursforSix]

billions but if its between that or keep shut down its a no brainer

pkus whole new industries would be formed employing millions

What new industries will be employing millions? Seems like if a new manufacturing facility is being built, they'd start with robots.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/calculatedrisk/status/1242200823204999168?s=20

The amount of tests have increased 5x in the last 6 days.

From the link:

"Tests per day is a key number to track (along with actual cases and, sadly, deaths). But total tests were a key for South Korea slowing the spread of COVID-19. South Korea has been conducting 15,000 tests per day with a 51 million population, so the US needs to test around 100,000 per day."

Hopefully we have every intention to blow past that standard and not settle at the South Korea benchmark.

[ElNono]

Crossed 50k cases, 616 deaths rn

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/calculatedrisk/status/1242200823204999168?s=20

The amount of tests have increased 5x in the last 6 days.

It's really disheartening that this has to come from a third party and not the CDC.

[FkLA]

This is probably already an out-dated term but what's the data look like for how "Far behind" Texas urban areas are from NYC and Italy?

Felt like a week ago people were saying we were 2 weeks behind places like Seattle. could have been BS

I don't think we are on the same trajectory as those two. Doubt we have as high of an elderly population and/or population density as them. Theres also the warm weather theory. California got their patient zero in late January and their curve didnt take off like the hardest hit areas. Check out mid's thread for more on that. The shelter in place orders should help too. Not sure wtf Houston is thinking though.

[vy65]

I don't think we are on the same trajectory as those two. Doubt we have as high of an elderly population and/or population as them. Theres also the warm weather theory. California got their patient zero in late January and their curve didnt take off like the hardest hit areas. Check out mid's thread for more on that. The shelter in place orders should help too. Not sure wtf Houston is thinking though.

Same, although Judge Hidalgo issued a "stay at home" order (as opposed to "shelter in place"). Effective 9am tomorrow.

[vy65]

Different cities will follow different trajectories. You can't compare NYC with Austin.

[ElNono]

So what I read (and I don't remember the source outright, but I suppose it can be googled if interested), is that the US has a hospital bed capacity of ~960,000, of which 65% is in use.

That would leave roughly ~350k beds (being generous here). I suspect that doesn't break evenly among states though, but also not everybody is going to need hospitalization.

[boutons_deux]

Why did Gilead get a monopoly? The USG doesn't hand out many of those.

Patent law, by USGovt, creates monopolies, that are abused into renewals.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

billions but if its between that or keep shut down its a no brainer

pkus whole new industries would be formed employing millions

I think that's the rub, as far as my armchair ass can see
You have industries and lobbyists that represent them realizing the writing is on the wall for a new paradigm, and theres no risk-free guarantee they survive this staying on top.

[Winehole23]

The NIH immediately focused on remdesivir ignoring the same demonstrated efficacy in vitro of the old (and cheap) chloroquine drugs. Remdesivir is an expensive treatment, intravenous only and daily, US based company. One can only speculate as to why. Personally I think it has more to do with "shiny new toy" syndrome prevalent in the research community than money.Occam's razor would seem to favor a family tie to the Trump Administration. Jared Kushner's brother Joshua is a co-founder of Gilead.

[CosmicCowboy]

Occam's razor would seem to favor a family tie to the Trump Administration. Jared Kushner's brother Joshua is a co-founder of Gilead.

[Winehole23]

It's their drug. Are you asking why does a pharmaceutical company get property rights in drugs it develops?Nope, they got "orphan" drug designation and total exclusivity for seven years.

https://theintercept.com/2020/03/23/gilead-sciences-coronavirus-treatment-orphan-drug-status/

[monosylab1k]

Collin County’s shelter in place is a fucking joke :lmao a ridiculous CYA meant to keep people quiet while making sure their rich Republican citizens get exactly what they want.

[vy65]

So what I read (and I don't remember the source outright, but I suppose it can be googled if interested), is that the US has a hospital bed capacity of ~960,000, of which 65% is in use.

That would leave roughly ~350k beds (being generous here). I suspect that doesn't break evenly among states though, but also not everybody is going to need hospitalization.

Although the majority of reported COVID-19 cases in China were mild (81%) ... https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm?s_cid=mm6912e2_w

You'd need approximately 1.84 million cases to fill up 350,000 beds (19%)

[vy65]

Nope, they got "orphan" drug designation and total exclusivity for seven years.

https://theintercept.com/2020/03/23/gilead-sciences-coronavirus-treatment-orphan-drug-status/

Did you read the first paragraph of this article?

[boutons_deux]

Multiple Trump golf club disco party attendees infected with coronavirus

Two weeks ago guests contracted coronavirus at a disco party hosted at Trump National Golf Club in California.

Susan Brooks celebrated her 70th birthday March 8 at the Rancho Palos Verdes golf club, where she was joined by family, friends and local political figures — and she learned a week later that one of the guests had tested positive for the novel coronavirus

She soon tested positive, and so have three other guests.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/multiple-trump-golf-club-disco-party-attendees-infected-with-coronavirus/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/multiple-trump-golf-club-disco-party-attendees-infected-with-coronavirus/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

[vy65]

Why did Gilead get a monopoly? The USG doesn't hand out many of those.

If your point here was to flesh out the tie to the Trump administration, be clearer and use your words. I don't have a WH insinuation and inference decoder ring.

[ElNono]

Although the majority of reported COVID-19 cases in China were mild (81%) ... https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm?s_cid=mm6912e2_w

You'd need approximately 1.84 million cases to fill up 350,000 beds (19%)

yep, the concern is how this really breaks down state by state, and whether some states that might have the extra capacity will take on cases from states that might be overwhelmed.

[vy65]

Occam's razor would seem to favor a family tie to the Trump Administration. Jared Kushner's brother Joshua is a co-founder of Gilead.

Are you sure about that? Link?

[vy65]

yep, the concern is how this really breaks down state by state, and whether some states that might have the extra capacity will take on cases from states that might be overwhelmed.

Bingo. It's possible that some states have some kind of return to normalcy while others are still in viral apocalypse lockdown

[midnightpulp]

Crossed 50k cases, 616 deaths rn

Most in New York. I feared for them. Bright side is that the Worldometer starts their day at GMT time. So the count has been going for 18 hours "today." I think if the US in total can stay in the 100-170 deaths per day range, we'll be doing good. We have to remember that we've had flu seasons where there's been 80,000 deaths in a year, over 200 per day.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/26/health/flu-deaths-2017--2018-cdc-bn/index.html

[boutons_deux]

Are you sure about that? Link?

The Kushner Family Could Be Getting Very Rich Thanks to the Coronavirus (https://www.mintpressnews.com/kushner-family-getting-very-rich-thanks-to-coronavirus/265914/)

The Kushner family’s ties to for-profit healthcare companies

underscore the myriad of conflicts of interests that billionaire businessmen have,

making them particularly unsuited to holding public office.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/kushner-family-getting-very-rich-thanks-to-coronavirus/265914/ (https://www.mintpressnews.com/kushner-family-getting-very-rich-thanks-to-coronavirus/265914/)

[ElNono]

Most in New York. I feared for them. Bright side is that the Worldometer starts their day at GMT time. So the count has been going for 18 hours "today." I think if the US in total can stay in the 100-170 deaths per day range, we'll be doing good. We have to remember that we've had flu seasons where there's been 80,000 deaths in a year, over 200 per day.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/26/health/flu-deaths-2017--2018-cdc-bn/index.html

I think it was Reck that shared this, but it has live updates:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgylp3Td1Bw

While deaths are obviously the main barometer, how the number of cases spike up is really what to keep an eye on, that's what can tilt the balance between normalcy and an overwhelmed system.

[Thread]

Most in New York. I feared for them. Bright side is that the Worldometer starts their day at GMT time. So the count has been going for 18 hours "today." I think if the US in total can stay in the 100-170 deaths per day range, we'll be doing good. We have to remember that we've had flu seasons where there's been 80,000 deaths in a year, over 200 per day.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/26/health/flu-deaths-2017--2018-cdc-bn/index.html

How's come when I lodge (flu #'s) I'm cast down with the sodomites & put on [Ignore] lists, but, when you do it everyone is genuflecting?

Me

[vy65]

The Kushner Family Could Be Getting Very Rich Thanks to the Coronavirus (https://www.mintpressnews.com/kushner-family-getting-very-rich-thanks-to-coronavirus/265914/)

The Kushner family’s ties to for-profit healthcare companies

underscore the myriad of conflicts of interests that billionaire businessmen have,

making them particularly unsuited to holding public office.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/kushner-family-getting-very-rich-thanks-to-coronavirus/265914/ (https://www.mintpressnews.com/kushner-family-getting-very-rich-thanks-to-coronavirus/265914/)




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[Thread]

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"for every ill wind blows good fortune for someone."

Something like that.

[boutons_deux]

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why do you think I was answering your question?

[vy65]

why do you think I was answering your question?

Because you were quoting me.

[Nathan89]

How's come when I lodge (flu #'s) I'm cast down with the sodomites & put on [Ignore] lists, but, when you do it everyone is genuflecting?

Me
:lol

[midnightpulp]

I think it was Reck that shared this, but it has live updates:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgylp3Td1Bw

While deaths are obviously the main barometer, how the number of cases spike up is really what to keep an eye on, that's what can tilt the balance between normalcy and an overwhelmed system.

They look to be using the worldometer data, I believe.

Yes, but case spike also spike in testing. We're testing more now than ever.

[midnightpulp]

How's come when I lodge (flu #'s) I'm cast down with the sodomites & put on [Ignore] lists, but, when you do it everyone is genuflecting?

Me

Thing is, you can't trivialize this as another flu, even if it is another flu, because as I've told you, we can't handle TWO flus in the same season. People underrate how severe the flu really is. It isn't just the sniffles and a slight fever.

[MannyIsGod]

I don't think we are on the same trajectory as those two. Doubt we have as high of an elderly population and/or population density as them. Theres also the warm weather theory. California got their patient zero in late January and their curve didnt take off like the hardest hit areas. Check out mid's thread for more on that. The shelter in place orders should help too. Not sure wtf Houston is thinking though.

The warm weather theory is bullshit. Flu is already dropping and yet this is exploding. NOLA is going to be the next NYC and its not cold there.

CA reacted early. Thats why they've somewhat leveled off.

Its not the fucking weather.

[MannyIsGod]

https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest

Look at the individual trajectories by country. Weather isn't a significant limiter or cause of acceleration.

[MannyIsGod]

So what I read (and I don't remember the source outright, but I suppose it can be googled if interested), is that the US has a hospital bed capacity of ~960,000, of which 65% is in use.

That would leave roughly ~350k beds (being generous here). I suspect that doesn't break evenly among states though, but also not everybody is going to need hospitalization.

Rural areas have far fewer beds, but also far fewer people. Not sure how it breaks out per capita. The good thing is not everything is going to happen at once. If we get it under control in NY, we can shift resources elsehwere. The key is keeping it in check as much as possible everywhere.

There's so little foresight in our leadership at the federal level right now.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1242506668782620679?s=20:wow

We need mass antibodies tests.

[midnightpulp]

The warm weather theory is bullshit. Flu is already dropping and yet this is exploding. NOLA is going to be the next NYC and its not cold there.

CA reacted early. Thats why they've somewhat leveled off.

Its not the fucking weather.

No we didn't. We had two cases in Los Angeles county way back in Jan. 27, a month and half before New York had their first confirmed case. It was business as usual here all the way up until early March, and it was only the Bay Area that issued a shelter-in-place order. So for literally a month, all of California was still packing clubs, casinos, beaches, bars, restaurants, etc, etc, and there hasn't been any kind of "explosion."

As to Louisiana, they're the outlier, not the rule. Most other regions in that warm weather band have not had "explosions." And we don't know the particulars of the Louisiana situation. If it crept its way into a nursing home and killed 20 people, that would skew the data. And what about Florida?

This virus isn't magical. I don't know why people believe it's going to behave differently than other coronaviruses and flu viruses.

On my bolded point, oh.


The news of their deaths Monday came just hours before state officials announced a second cluster of cases had been discovered at a Donaldsonville retirement home.

[picnroll]

I think it was Reck that shared this, but it has live updates:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgylp3Td1Bw

While deaths are obviously the main barometer, how the number of cases spike up is really what to keep an eye on, that's what can tilt the balance between normalcy and an overwhelmed system.

Testing is going up massively so that number of cases is until test availabilty and testing criteria are stable. Deaths overall and in spcific geographic locales with a two week lag period is the only useful criteria to me until test availability and testing criteria are stable.

[pgardn]

Most in New York. I feared for them. Bright side is that the Worldometer starts their day at GMT time. So the count has been going for 18 hours "today." I think if the US in total can stay in the 100-170 deaths per day range, we'll be doing good. We have to remember that we've had flu seasons where there's been 80,000 deaths in a year, over 200 per day.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/26/health/flu-deaths-2017--2018-cdc-bn/index.html

Was this due to overwhelmed hospitals and medical facilites across the nation, or the deadly nature of some flu viruses on both young and old?

[ElNono]

They look to be using the worldometer data, I believe.

Yes, but case spike also spike in testing. We're testing more now than ever.

Yeah, testing is also important to know how well social distancing is working out, and compare between states with different policies right now

[Thread]

Thing is, you can't trivialize this as another flu, even if it is another flu, because as I've told you, we can't handle TWO flus in the same season. People underrate how severe the flu really is. It isn't just the sniffles and a slight fever.

Then we should've treated "the flu" like we're treating Corona.

Instead for decades we've watched over a million Americans die from it without batting at eye lash.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1242506668782620679?s=20:wow

We need mass antibodies tests.

https://twitter.com/ShimonPro/status/1242472860557496320?s=20

That would mean over 3 million people in New York have already need infected. It should not be that difficult to conduct a study to determine if this is total BS or has some validity.

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1242506668782620679?s=20:wow

We need mass antibodies tests.

This is good news, but, again, dependent on how fast and how much the virus spreads. 1 million infected vs 3 million infected at a time, even with that number, can make a huge difference.

[picnroll]

Rural areas have far fewer beds, but also far fewer people. Not sure how it breaks out per capita. The good thing is not everything is going to happen at once. If we get it under control in NY, we can shift resources elsehwere. The key is keeping it in check as much as possible everywhere.

There's so little foresight in our leadership at the federal level right now.
Look at Eagle, Gunnison and Pitkin with ski areas that attract foreigners. Eagle started March 2 courtesy of an Italian. Ski areas in Eagle shut down March 17, now locals only. County has a population of 55,000 and now as of the 23rd 80 cases. Steady increase per day rate but not wildly exponential growth but way, way more than the healthcare system, which is good but focused almost entirely on orthopedics and oncoology with average remaining services can handle. For now they're shipping to Denver but when Denver’s saturated they’re fooked.

https://covid19.colorado.gov/case-data

[pgardn]

Then we should've treated "the flu" like we're treating Corona.

Instead for decades we've watched over a million Americans die from it without batting at eye lash.

No you should not because of the number of people that become infected fairly quickly.
The potential for overall deaths has been clearly a worry for epidemiologists.
This is a point that people are now swinging and missing on.

And we have no vaccine.

[spurraider21]

Then we should've treated "the flu" like we're treating Corona.

Instead for decades we've watched over a million Americans die from it without batting at eye lash.
we have a vaccine that reduces the risk by about 50%

[midnightpulp]

https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest

Look at the individual trajectories by country. Weather isn't a significant limiter or cause of acceleration.

Measuring by acceleration doesn't give a clear picture. Acceleration could be completely due to accelerated testing. Also, small numbers accelerate greater than large numbers. If a country who hasn't provided any testing or limited testing data and then suddenly performs ten thousand tests, their acceleration will look like it has exploded on a plot.

Here's the world of meter data. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

You can easy correlate case count and death rate to this map (done by a virology department):

https://www.medschool.umaryland.edu/news/2020/Researchers-Predict-Potential-Spread-and-Seasonality-for-COVID-19-Based-on-Climate-Where-Virus-Appears-to-Thrive.html

You might argue that those warm weather areas are "behind," but no. Australia's first death was back on March 2. They're currently at 7 deaths, and they've only started getting "serious" in the last week. New York was a month and half behind California.

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/ShimonPro/status/1242472860557496320?s=20

That would mean over 3 million people in New York have already need infected. It should not be that difficult to conduct a study to determine if this is total BS or has some validity.
i dont think you can extrapolate the tested :: positive ratio to the entire population because the people getting tested tend to be symptomatic, right?

[ElNono]

we have a vaccine that reduces the risk by about 50%

Before we had inoculation, the worst version of the flu back in 1918 had a death rate of 3.4% to ~20%. Hard to gauge if worse than this particular virus, as medicine wasn't what it is today then. But still pretty deadly.

[TSA]

From the link:

"Tests per day is a key number to track (along with actual cases and, sadly, deaths). But total tests were a key for South Korea slowing the spread of COVID-19. South Korea has been conducting 15,000 tests per day with a 51 million population, so the US needs to test around 100,000 per day."

Hopefully we have every intention to blow past that standard and not settle at the South Korea benchmark.

Appears we are on the right track

https://mobile.twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1242510803359727616

[midnightpulp]

Was this due to overwhelmed hospitals and medical facilites across the nation, or the deadly nature of some flu viruses on both young and old?

Probably a bit of both. We're also terribly unhealthy as a population. Overweight and obesity can lead to all kinds of health problems, as we know.

[ElNono]

Measuring by acceleration doesn't give a clear picture. Acceleration could be completely due to accelerated testing. Also, small numbers accelerate greater than large numbers. If a country who hasn't provided any testing or limited testing data and then suddenly performs ten thousand tests, their acceleration will look like it has exploded on a plot.

Here's the world of meter data. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

You can easy correlate case count and death rate to this map (done by a virology department):

https://www.medschool.umaryland.edu/news/2020/Researchers-Predict-Potential-Spread-and-Seasonality-for-COVID-19-Based-on-Climate-Where-Virus-Appears-to-Thrive.html

You might argue that those warm weather areas are "behind," but no. Australia's first death was back on March 2. They're currently at 7 deaths, and they've only started getting "serious" in the last week. New York was a month and half behind California.

I think it's a bit early, even if it looks promising. One would hope it has an effect. To counter Australia, Brazil has less cases than Australia, but more deaths, and is also not in the band. Australia also has just about as many cases as Canada.

[picnroll]

i dont think you can extrapolate the tested :: positive ratio to the entire population because the people getting tested tend to be symptomatic, right?

If that’s true they could very easily determine that.The ELISA antibody test is right there in NY at Mt Sinai Hosp. Just randomly test a couple thousand asymptomatic patients or alternatively tested patients who weren’t COVID 19 positive plus random non- tested selection.

[Thread]

we have a vaccine that reduces the risk by about 50%

We accepted that to the tune of over a million Americans dead, but, we take a fit at less than a 700 dead with Corona.

[pgardn]

Probably a bit of both. We're also terribly unhealthy as a population. Overweight and obesity can lead to all kinds of health problems, as we know.

I dont think recent flu deaths (ie not the Spanish flu) were due to the nature of overwhelming systems like this virus has the potential of doing.
I dont think its even close. The insidious nature of the symptoms and no vaccine is clearly what concerns us about this virus.

Hoping this thing succumbs to the spring like most flu and colds.

[midnightpulp]

We accepted that to the tune of over a million Americans dead, but, we take a fit at less than a 700 dead with Corona.

Do you think it's going to "stop" at 700, Cub? No.

[RandomGuy]

Rural areas have far fewer beds, but also far fewer people. Not sure how it breaks out per capita. The good thing is not everything is going to happen at once. If we get it under control in NY, we can shift resources elsehwere. The key is keeping it in check as much as possible everywhere.

There's so little foresight in our leadership at the federal level right now.

Going to guess though rural areas are older. Keeping it in check isn't going to happen, when you get governors spending more time on prayer podcasts than managing. It is going to spread to red states that aren't doing anything to prevent it, and kill a lot of people.

[pgardn]

We accepted that to the tune of over a million Americans dead, but, we take a fit at less than a 700 dead with Corona.

I think you know what potential means... and when did one million die from the flu in a season with a vaccine available.
Now if you want to argue the potential of this virus is being way overrated and why you think so be my guest.
Pulp has a least given some reasonable stuff. And you have Manny giving reasons why it should not be underrated.

Why does Trump apparently think we are overrating the potential? Because the cure is clearly worse than the disease itself.

[MannyIsGod]

No we didn't. We had two cases in Los Angeles county way back in Jan. 27, a month and half before New York had their first confirmed case. It was business as usual here all the way up until early March, and it was only the Bay Area that issued a shelter-in-place order. So for literally a month, all of California was still packing clubs, casinos, beaches, bars, restaurants, etc, etc, and there hasn't been any kind of "explosion."

As to Louisiana, they're the outlier, not the rule. Most other regions in that warm weather band have not had "explosions." And we don't know the particulars of the Louisiana situation. If it crept its way into a nursing home and killed 20 people, that would skew the data. And what about Florida?
This virus isn't magical. I don't know why people believe it's going to behave differently than other coronaviruses and flu viruses.

On my bolded point, oh.

Other corona viruses don't care about the heat. That's exactly the point. MERS and SARS, for instance.

California did act quickly. They were the first to issue a state of emergency. They didn't fully shut down, but that's not the only actions you can take early on.

As for Louisiana, they currenty have 1400 cases. Thats comparable to many more populous states even though they're right in the middle of the states when it comes to average. Not sure how the fuck you think you can downplay that, but go right ahead.

[midnightpulp]

I think it's a bit early, even if it looks promising. One would hope it has an effect. To counter Australia, Brazil has less cases than Australia, but more deaths, and is also not in the band. Australia also has just about as many cases as Canada.

Yeah, but I wouldn't put much faith in Brazil's healthcare system. Brazil also 6.5x times as many people as Australia, so their death rate is lower per capita (so maybe their healthcare isn't that bad). I'd also chalk up their fewer case numbers to performing fewer tests. But in any event, developing countries are at risk regardless of weather because of the comparative quality of their healthcare. Not to mention the population density in areas filled with favelas. That could get nasty for Brazil.

[Thread]

I think you know what potential means... and when did one million die from the flu in a season with a vaccine available.
Now if you want to argue the potential of this virus is being way overrated and why you think so be my guest.
Pulp has a least given some reasonable stuff.

Why does Trump apparently think we are overrating the potential? Because the cure is clearly worse than the disease itself.

No, over the past two decades over a million Americans have died from the regular flu.

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1242506668782620679?s=20:wow

We need mass antibodies tests.



But the Oxford results mean that the country had already acquired substantial herd immunity through the unrecognised spread of Covid-19 over more than two months. If the findings are confirmed by testing, then the current restrictions could be removed much sooner than ministers have indicated.


the results "if confirmed", etc etc. We will see how well the model plays out in the next week or two.

[Thread]

Do you think it's going to "stop" at 700, Cub? No.

Of course not.

[pgardn]

No, over the past two decades over a million Americans have died from the regular flu.

Okay.
This one was estimated to have the potential to give us 1 million deaths in one season by some models.
I personally went with some of the lower estimations at that time 1/3 of a million, because of the fact we might know much more by then, and then has turned to now.

[ElNono]

Yeah, but I wouldn't put much faith in Brazil's healthcare system. Brazil also 6.5x times as many people as Australia, so their death rate is lower per capita (so maybe their healthcare isn't that bad). I'd also chalk up their fewer case numbers to performing fewer tests. But in any event, developing countries are at risk regardless of weather because of the comparative quality of their healthcare. Not to mention the population density in areas filled with favelas. That could get nasty for Brazil.

I'm hopeful, but I don't think it's conclusive right now. We can chalk things up to a number of things, but better be safe and ready in case it doesn't work out.

[Winehole23]

Tired: Dr. Fauci
Wired: Dr. Oz

[MannyIsGod]

For more context on Lousiana, they've got more cases than TX despite having conducted only half the tests that TX has. Louisiana is going to be a gigantic problem soon.

[MannyIsGod]

Also not much of difference in 1st world and 3rd world healthcare if there are no supplies. A lot of the US is going to seem pretty fucking 3rd world soon.

[Spurs Homer]

Also not much of difference in 1st world and 3rd world healthcare if there are no supplies. A lot of the US is going to seem pretty fucking 3rd world soon.


healthcare?


that is an “entitlement”

gotta cut it to the bone!

[MannyIsGod]

The idea that this thing is gioing to react like normal flue regarding the weather ignores the fact that flu right now is clearing out because of the annual cycle and yet this one is doing anything but. If it was following the same heat related rule set as the flu, this pandemic wouldn't be an issue RIGHT NOW!

[ElNono]

We need mass antibodies tests.

They're coming. Finland came up with one just a few days ago, need to gear up for mass production.

[vy65]

Other corona viruses don't care about the heat. That's exactly the point. MERS and SARS, for instance.

Science says otherwise:

Abstract
The main route of transmission of SARS CoV infection is presumed to be respiratory droplets. However the virus is also detectable in other body fluids and excreta. The stability of the virus at different temperatures and relative humidity on smooth surfaces were studied. The dried virus on smooth surfaces retained its viability for over 5 days at temperatures of 22–25°C and relative humidity of 40–50%, that is, typical air-conditioned environments. However, virus viability was rapidly lost (>3 log10) at higher temperatures and higher relative humidity (e.g., 38°C, and relative humidity of >95%). The better stability of SARS coronavirus at low temperature and low humidity environment may facilitate its transmission in community in subtropical area (such as Hong Kong) during the spring and in air-conditioned environments. It may also explain why some Asian countries in tropical area (such as Malaysia, Indonesia or Thailand) with high temperature and high relative humidity environment did not have major community outbreaks of SARS.

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/av/2011/734690/

[midnightpulp]

Other corona viruses don't care about the heat. That's exactly the point. MERS and SARS, for instance.

California did act quickly. They were the first to issue a state of emergency. They didn't fully shut down, but that's not the only actions you can take early on.

As for Louisiana, they currenty have 1400 cases. Thats comparable to many more populous states even though they're right in the middle of the states when it comes to average. Not sure how the fuck you think you can downplay that, but go right ahead.

That state of emergency came on March 5th, a month and a week after two patients were confirmed in Los Angeles county. I live just outside, and for a whole month, nothing changed in SoCal after those reported cases. Clubs, Casinos, etc, etc, filled. All logic says that "ticking bomb" should've exploded by now. Why hasn't it? Yes, there's factors favorable that are reducing transmission, like pop density, not much use of public transit, average age and health of residents, etc.

Actually, the jury is still out on how the virality of coronaviruses changes in warmer weather.


For the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, we have reason to expect that like other betacoronaviruses, it may transmit somewhat more efficiently in winter than summer, though we don’t know the mechanism(s) responsible. The size of the change is expected to be modest, and not enough to stop transmission on its own. Based on the analogy of pandemic flu, we expect that SARS-CoV-2, as a virus new to humans, will face less immunity and thus transmit more readily even outside of the winter season.

What does "somewhat" mean? What does "modest" mean? What does more "readily" mean? See, there's no hard numbers here, so best we can do is correlate the data we have. Don't think I'm suggesting that the virus is just going "die" off in the Summer, but even if transmission rate is reduced by a "modest" 30 percent, that'll be big. One data point we have is that New York's test rate comes back 28% positive vs. 8% for the rest of the country:


- "<1% of all mortality is less than 50 years old"
- 28% positivity rate in NY / 8% for the rest of the country"

- Deborah Brix

New York's pop density is also a big, big factor here.

I'm not downplaying anything, just countering the doomsday "up-playing" that is trying to extrapolate an outcome for every region everywhere based on what is happening in Italy (why hasn't Mexico become the next Italy?). The data we have so far is suggesting some pretty clear trends.

[midnightpulp]

Science says otherwise:

Abstract
The main route of transmission of SARS CoV infection is presumed to be respiratory droplets. However the virus is also detectable in other body fluids and excreta. The stability of the virus at different temperatures and relative humidity on smooth surfaces were studied. The dried virus on smooth surfaces retained its viability for over 5 days at temperatures of 22–25°C and relative humidity of 40–50%, that is, typical air-conditioned environments. However, virus viability was rapidly lost (>3 log10) at higher temperatures and higher relative humidity (e.g., 38°C, and relative humidity of >95%). The better stability of SARS coronavirus at low temperature and low humidity environment may facilitate its transmission in community in subtropical area (such as Hong Kong) during the spring and in air-conditioned environments. It may also explain why some Asian countries in tropical area (such as Malaysia, Indonesia or Thailand) with high temperature and high relative humidity environment did not have major community outbreaks of SARS.

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/av/2011/734690/

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