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boutons_deux
08-31-2021, 01:48 PM
A mobile vaccination event in Georgia was reportedly shut down because anti-vax protesters were harassing workers

public health staff "have been harassed, yelled at, threatened and demeaned by some of the very members of the public they were trying to help."

In one county, protesters used social media to identify public health employees and

"[harangue] them with messages of hostility and misinformation about vaccines,"

A mobile event in north Georgia was canceled after

an "organized group" of anti-vaxxers arrived to bother and name-call those running the drive.

https://theweek.com/coronavirus/1004368/a-mobile-vaccination-event-in-georgia-was-reportedly-shut-down-because-anti-vax

Fuck the entire Confederacy

DarrinS
08-31-2021, 01:57 PM
Dont b stupid

EVERYONE WILL GET INFECTED. VAXED OR NOT.

You cannot hide from the virus no matter how many booster shots you take up the ass.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhRb5hnTseU

boutons_deux
08-31-2021, 01:58 PM
After losing in court, defiant DeSantis officials dock pay of school boards adopting mask mandates

Despite a state court ruling (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/27/2048578/-Judge-rules-against-Florida-Man-DeSantis-in-important-mask-mandate-case) clearing the way for school mask mandates,

Florida education officials announced Monday they would

withhold funding from two school districts (https://miami.cbslocal.com/2021/08/31/florida-department-of-education-withholds-funds-in-broward-alachua-counties-for-mask-mandate/) that were among the first to adopt universal in-school masking: Alachua and Broward.

“The withholding of funds will continue monthly until each school board complies with state law and rule,’’ Florida Education Commissioner Richard Corcoran wrote (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/education/article253866718.html) on Monday.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2049362

SnakeBoy
08-31-2021, 02:04 PM
I think it's kinda early to tell what this one is going to be.

How so? It's a coronavirus, it's not going away, everyone is getting infected repeatedly.

5th endemic HCoV

SnakeBoy
08-31-2021, 02:14 PM
https://twitter.com/fjmkhan/status/1432771813285715969?s=19


Nothing to see here folks.

Just "the Science" moving on to Pfizer/Moderna Board of Directors :lmao

https://memeguy.com/photos/thumbs/when-im-drunk-and-thinking-about-texting-my-crush-10494.gif

Winehole23
08-31-2021, 02:27 PM
How so? It's a coronavirus, it's not going away, everyone is getting infected repeatedly.

5th endemic HCoVwho says it's going away? seems like a strawman.

hater
08-31-2021, 03:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhRb5hnTseU

:tu

Good stuff

I basically called all of it :tu


Endemic. Check
Vaccinate the old and sick. Check.
Vaccines help to reduce hospitalization/death. Check
No need to vax children. Check
No need for boosters as natural immunity boosters are more efficient and cheaper. Check. (Except for old and sick)


Id also add no need for vax passports as this is endemic vaxed or not :tu


Called it all :tu

Thread
08-31-2021, 03:04 PM
who says it's going away? seems like a strawman.

Bend over. I'll show you a fuckin' strawman.

SnakeBoy
08-31-2021, 03:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhRb5hnTseU

He finally came around. He spent the longest time saying we could beat the virus in a season or two.

spurraider21
08-31-2021, 03:28 PM
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SnakeBoy
08-31-2021, 03:31 PM
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You called down the thunder. Well, now you got it.

ChumpDumper
08-31-2021, 04:24 PM
You called down the thunder. Well, now you got it.Who called down what thunder?

Explain.

pgardn
08-31-2021, 07:03 PM
:tu

Good stuff

I basically called all of it :tu


Endemic. Check
Vaccinate the old and sick. Check.
Vaccines help to reduce hospitalization/death. Check
No need to vax children. Check
No need for boosters as natural immunity boosters are more efficient and cheaper. Check. (Except for old and sick)


Id also add no need for vax passports as this is endemic vaxed or not :tu


Called it all :tu

Go right now and get yourself a big dose of the virus naturally.
Lets just see how it works. Just for the hell of it.
Do it.

People will get viruses. check

People will get the delta variant right now in New Orleans Louisiana. check

(Lets see how wonderful a virus this is when you go to the hospital and kick a patient with a different malady downstairs.)

hater still dont understand the timing thing, never will.
"But dammit we will get viruses!"
"You will be infected" but you may never know it...


This is not a fkn cold just because its a corona virus. Its symptoms are much worse on immunocompromised people.
Hospitals did not fill up because of a cold virus. Hospitals filled up because a large enough percentage of our unvaxxed population live together and decided it was ok to use their bodies as petri dishes for the rest of us, just to assure as many people around the unvaxxed and vaxed crowd cold get max dosage. Just say it.

This latest round WAS NOT INEVITABLE in its timing and stress on the medical community.
Dont pretend like it was because... "you will get infected"

pgardn
08-31-2021, 07:07 PM
What is beat the virus?
What does this mean?

pgardn
08-31-2021, 07:17 PM
Flu vaccines upcoming.
Will be interesting to see what strain we emphasize.
Get the quadrivalent.

Winehole23
08-31-2021, 08:38 PM
Who called down what thunder?

Explain.he digs the intimidation and violence, that's all

Winehole23
08-31-2021, 08:39 PM
yeah, this is some bullshit

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SnakeBoy
08-31-2021, 09:28 PM
Go right now and get yourself a big dose of the virus naturally.
Lets just see how it works. Just for the hell of it.
Do it.


Some of us have been trying. I think I got my delta boost but could've been allergies.

SnakeBoy
08-31-2021, 09:33 PM
he digs the intimidation and violence, that's all

It's a reckoning

ChumpDumper
08-31-2021, 10:08 PM
It's a reckoning
A reckoning of what?

What thunder?

Who called?

DarrinS
08-31-2021, 10:09 PM
Some of us have been trying. I think I got my delta boost but could've been allergies.

No luck here, either. Rather have that natural boost than shitty Pfizer.

DarrinS
08-31-2021, 10:10 PM
A reckoning of what?

What thunder?

Who called?

I'm your huckleberry

ChumpDumper
08-31-2021, 10:11 PM
I'm your huckleberry:lol you're folding for other people now.

DarrinS
08-31-2021, 10:12 PM
He finally came around. He spent the longest time saying we could beat the virus in a season or two.

Yeah, that old Brit was overly optimistic.

Blake
08-31-2021, 10:12 PM
I'm your huckleberry

:lol go back into the saloon

SnakeBoy
08-31-2021, 10:13 PM
A reckoning of what?

What thunder?

Who called?

I apologize, I forgot you were there

DarrinS
08-31-2021, 10:13 PM
:lol you're folding for other people now.

Doc then killed Ringo

hater
08-31-2021, 10:13 PM
No luck here, either. Rather have that natural boost than shitty Pfizer.

My Delta party got canceled cause the main guest was symptomatic :lol sadly it was not covid.

Hopefully this weekend :tu

Need a boost

ChumpDumper
08-31-2021, 10:15 PM
I apologize, I forgot you were thereGreat, so answer.


Doc then killed RingoMovie has nothing to do with your folding tbh.

DarrinS
08-31-2021, 10:17 PM
Great, so answer.

Movie has nothing to do with your folding tbh.


Well,... bye.

ChumpDumper
08-31-2021, 10:20 PM
Well,... bye.:lol have another drink and look at your pool alone.

DarrinS
08-31-2021, 10:23 PM
:lol have another drink and look at your pool alone.

In vino veritas.

ChumpDumper
08-31-2021, 10:28 PM
In vino veritas.The truth you are afraid to discuss anything.:bobo

DarrinS
08-31-2021, 10:30 PM
The truth you are afraid to discuss anything.:bobo

Why Ed does this mean we're not friends anymore? You know Ed, if I thought you weren't my friend... I just don't think I could bear it!

ChumpDumper
08-31-2021, 10:30 PM
Why Ed does this mean we're not friends anymore? You know Ed, if I thought you weren't my friend... I just don't think I could bear it!Thanks for proving me right.:bobo

Have another drink and smoke.:bobo

DarrinS
08-31-2021, 10:33 PM
Thanks for proving me right.:bobo

Have another drink and smoke.:bobo

Oh, Johnny, I apologize; I forgot you were there. You may go now.

ChumpDumper
08-31-2021, 10:39 PM
Oh, Johnny, I apologize; I forgot you were there. You may go now.Is there a reason you're so afraid?

DarrinS
08-31-2021, 10:41 PM
Is there a reason you're so afraid?

Of what?

ChumpDumper
08-31-2021, 10:45 PM
Of what?Discussing anything like your little Ivermectin abortion in the other thread.

DarrinS
08-31-2021, 10:58 PM
Discussing anything like your little Ivermectin abortion in the other thread.

There's nothing wrong with Ivermectin. You shouldn't take a dose for a 1200 lb animal.

ChumpDumper
08-31-2021, 11:00 PM
There's nothing wrong with Ivermectin.Were you saying that's the reason deer have gotten COVID and horses have not?

Yes or no.

DarrinS
08-31-2021, 11:03 PM
Were you saying that's the reason deer have gotten COVID and horses have not?

Yes or no.

I have no idea. I know that deer populations have covid. I'm not hearing that from my horse owning friends.

ChumpDumper
08-31-2021, 11:04 PM
I have no idea. I know that deer populations have covid. I'm not hearing that from my horse owning friends.

Why did you bring them both up then?

Winehole23
08-31-2021, 11:06 PM
:lol

DarrinS
08-31-2021, 11:08 PM
Horses just lucky

ChumpDumper
08-31-2021, 11:08 PM
Horses just luckyWhy are you so afraid?

DarrinS
08-31-2021, 11:13 PM
My dog never got it either.

ChumpDumper
08-31-2021, 11:14 PM
My dog never got it either.

But why are you so afraid?

DarrinS
08-31-2021, 11:14 PM
Why are you so afraid?

You are afraid, you N95 wearing bitch. :lmao

ChumpDumper
08-31-2021, 11:15 PM
You are afraid, you N95 wearing bitch. :lmao
But why are you afraid, Darrin?

DarrinS
08-31-2021, 11:16 PM
Should've got the OG variant, when you had the chance. :lmao

ChumpDumper
08-31-2021, 11:17 PM
Should've got the OG variant, when you had the chance. :lmao
I'll be fine.

But why are you afraid, Darrin?

Winehole23
08-31-2021, 11:20 PM
Darrin still doesn't know the reason why people wear masks.

Blake
08-31-2021, 11:25 PM
There's nothing wrong with Ivermectin.

:lol

ChumpDumper
08-31-2021, 11:26 PM
Darrin still doesn't know the reason why people wear masks.:lol I've never seen people so terrified to say what they believe on an anonymous message board.

DarrinS
08-31-2021, 11:58 PM
Darrin still doesn't know the reason why people wear masks.

Makes delusional covid-zero Austinites feel comfy?

You WILL be infected. Get ready fatty.

DarrinS
08-31-2021, 11:59 PM
:lol I've never seen people so terrified to say what they believe on an anonymous message board.

I'm not terrified. Ask me a question.

ChumpDumper
08-31-2021, 11:59 PM
:lol fat Darrin thinks everyone is like him

ChumpDumper
08-31-2021, 11:59 PM
I'm not terrified. Ask me a question.I did for two hours.

You shit yourself.

Why are you afraid?

DarrinS
09-01-2021, 12:00 AM
:lol fat Darrin thinks everyone is like him

150 lbs.

Was 165 at 17.

DarrinS
09-01-2021, 12:01 AM
I did for two hours.

You shit yourself.

Why are you afraid?


I'm not.

Is that your question?

ChumpDumper
09-01-2021, 12:01 AM
150 lbs.

Was 165 at 17.And when you were your fattest?

Winehole23
09-01-2021, 12:02 AM
Makes delusional covid-zero Austinites feel comfy?

You WILL be infected.Mitigates the spread of germs -- my mask protects other people. I'm under no illusion it will protect me from infection all by itself.

BTW, Austin is hardly a COVID zero ghetto --the bars and restaurants are packed.

DarrinS
09-01-2021, 12:03 AM
And when you were your fattest?

200 1997

ChumpDumper
09-01-2021, 12:04 AM
Mitigates the spread of germsand viruses.

All these things are about mitigation. We don't expect the world to be a clean room.

ChumpDumper
09-01-2021, 12:04 AM
200 1997:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

DarrinS
09-01-2021, 12:05 AM
Mitigates the spread of germs -- my mask protects other people. I'm under no illusion it will protect me from infection all by itself.

BTW, Austin is hardly a COVID zero ghetto --the bars and restaurants are packed.


You should say home and hit the treadmill. Our delta friend ain't going nowhere.

DarrinS
09-01-2021, 12:06 AM
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Current BMI is 21

Winehole23
09-01-2021, 12:07 AM
You should say home and hit the treadmill. Our delta friend ain't going nowhere.i don't believe that's the way viruses work.

Fwiw, I prefer cycling.

DarrinS
09-01-2021, 12:08 AM
You should say home and hit the treadmill. Our delta friend ain't going nowhere.i don't believe that's the way viruses work.

Fwiw, I prefer cycling.


Whatever works

ChumpDumper
09-01-2021, 12:08 AM
Current BMI is 21
Why do you constantly project your former morbid obesity on people you don't agree with?

Winehole23
09-01-2021, 12:09 AM
Why do you constantly project your former morbid obesity on people you don't agree with?Shame. He thinks it's disgraceful to be fat.

ChumpDumper
09-01-2021, 12:10 AM
Shame. He thinks it's disgraceful to be fat.He just started smoking more to lose the weight anyway.

DarrinS
09-01-2021, 12:11 AM
Why do you constantly project your former morbid obesity on people you don't agree with?

Why are you so insecure?

DarrinS
09-01-2021, 12:11 AM
Shame. He thinks it's disgraceful to be fat.

It is.

DarrinS
09-01-2021, 12:13 AM
He just started smoking more to lose the weight anyway.

Yeah, that doesn't work. :lol

ChumpDumper
09-01-2021, 12:13 AM
Why are you so insecure?You're the one projecting your weight problem on other people.

That illustrates your insecurity, not mine.

I'm asking you why you feel that's an effective dig at people.

Well?

ChumpDumper
09-01-2021, 12:14 AM
Yeah, that doesn't work. :lolAnd yet, you still smoke.

DarrinS
09-01-2021, 12:17 AM
You're the one projecting your weight problem on other people.

That illustrates your insecurity, not mine.

I'm asking you why you feel that's an effective dig at people.

Well?


I don't have a weight problem.

Obesity is the #1 risk factor.

The second is fear and anxiety. Sorry Whinehole.

ChumpDumper
09-01-2021, 12:19 AM
I don't have a weight problem.You have definitely had one and are prone to having one again.

Why do you think projecting that on other people is such an effective insult?

Winehole23
09-01-2021, 12:35 AM
The second is fear and anxiety. Sorry Whinehole.I'm pretty much anxiety-free, thanks for caring. I've seldom been better.

Winehole23
09-01-2021, 12:42 AM
My current events mania isn't based on fear or anxiety, believe it or not. Frequent posting/responding helps me remember things and think through them. For me this forum is kind of like a notepad.

Winehole23
09-01-2021, 12:57 AM
Florida massaging the numbers to make things look somewhat better.


As cases ballooned in August, however, the Florida Department of Health changed the way it reported death data to the CDC, giving the appearance of a pandemic in decline, an analysis of Florida data by the Miami Herald and el Nuevo Herald found.

On Monday, Florida death data would have shown an average of 262 daily deaths reported to the CDC over the previous week had the health department used its former reporting system, the Herald analysis showed. Instead, the Monday update from Florida showed just 46 “new deaths” per day over the previous seven days.
https://amp.bradenton.com/news/coronavirus/article253796898.html

Thread
09-01-2021, 12:58 AM
Florida massaging the numbers to make things look somewhat better.

https://amp.bradenton.com/news/coronavirus/article253796898.html

They ain't been straight for almost a month.

Thread
09-01-2021, 01:00 AM
My current events mania isn't based on fear or anxiety, believe it or not. Frequent posting/responding helps me remember things and think through them. For me this forum is kind of like a notepad.

Here some anxiety for ya,,,just (remember things) like you got me out in the fuckin' street again.

Winehole23
09-01-2021, 01:02 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-JSgPxVEAIzg8_?format=jpg&name=medium

boutons_deux
09-01-2021, 08:26 AM
Texas school closes due to increase of COVID-19 cases, two teachers die


https://www.valleycentral.com/news/state-news/texas-school-closes-due-to-increase-of-covid-19-cases-two-teachers-die

boutons_deux
09-01-2021, 08:29 AM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p843x403/240139690_5487270008032675_5783163824087117129_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=kSDaU-n7ncwAX_qg3oI&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=e178fb58776c47e23f1491ac8e918d28&oe=6153B21C

hater
09-01-2021, 08:37 AM
Called it. They are flinging shit at this point so much so that FDA bosses are quitting.

Only a lunatic would take the shit boosters if healthy.

https://twitter.com/HeyTammyBruce/status/1432905578947518464?s=19

hater
09-01-2021, 08:39 AM
https://twitter.com/HeidiBriones/status/1432732608102690816?s=19

hater
09-01-2021, 08:40 AM
https://twitter.com/HelenBranswell/status/1432442383053074435?s=19

hater
09-01-2021, 08:48 AM
Lol "follow the science. Except when you dont to mandate booster approvals" :lmao

https://twitter.com/owermohle/status/1432827182934601731?s=19

Winehole23
09-01-2021, 09:04 AM
It ain't all about hospitalization and death. Chronic, COVID-related disability still gets short shrift


When I first spoke with Akrami, last year, she was on day 76 of her symptoms. This year, I called her on day 526. She has improved enough to take “long” half-hour walks without crashing—in the gaps between monthly relapses that completely incapacitate her for a week. Many long-haulers partially recover after a few months, or learn to manage their symptoms. But some “first-wavers” are still dealing with cycles of serious illness. Through 2020’s spring, summer, and winter surges, Donald Trump’s departure and Joe Biden’s arrival, the vaccine rollout (https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/03/vaccines-long-covid/618406/) and Delta’s ascent, they’ve been struggling to work, concentrate, or exercise. Many have been told by medical professionals that they’re just having anxiety or making up their symptoms.https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/09/covid-19-long-haulers-pandemic-future/619941/

Winehole23
09-01-2021, 09:51 AM
Huge trial on community masking in Bangladesh.

Surgical mask>cloth masks, but both seemed to reduce the incidence of symptomatic COVID-19.





Methods: We conducted a cluster-randomized trial of community-level mask promotion inrural Bangladesh from November 2020 to April 2021 (N=600 villages, N=342,126 adults).We cross-randomized mask promotion strategies at the village and household level, includingcloth vs. surgical masks. All intervention arms received free masks, information on the importance of masking, role modeling by community leaders, and in-person reminders for 8 weeks.The control group did not receive any interventions. Neither participants nor field staff wereblinded to intervention assignment. Outcomes included symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 seroprevalence (primary) and prevalence of proper mask-wearing, physical distancing, and symptomsconsistent with COVID-19 (secondary). Mask-wearing and physical distancing were assessedthrough direct observation at least weekly at mosques, markets, the main entrance roads tovillages, and tea stalls. At 5 and 9 weeks follow-up, we surveyed all reachable participantsabout COVID-related symptoms. Blood samples collected at 10-12 weeks of follow-up forsymptomatic individuals were analyzed for SARS-CoV-2 IgG antibodies.

Results: There were 178,288 individuals in the intervention group and 163,838 individualsin the control group. The intervention increased proper mask-wearing from 13.3% in controlvillages (N=806,547 observations) to 42.3% in treatment villages (N=797,715 observations)(adjusted percentage point difference = 0.29 [0.27, 0.31]). This tripling of mask usage was sustained during the intervention period and two weeks after. Physical distancing increased from24.1% in control villages to 29.2% in treatment villages (adjusted percentage point difference= 0.05 [0.04, 0.06]). After 5 months, the impact of the intervention faded, but mask-wearingremained 10 percentage points higher in the intervention group.The proportion of individuals with COVID-like symptoms was 7.62% (N=13,273) in theintervention arm and 8.62% (N=13,893) in the control arm. Blood samples were collectedfrom N=10,952 consenting, symptomatic individuals. Adjusting for baseline covariates, the2intervention reduced symptomatic seroprevalence by 9.3% (adjusted prevalence ratio (aPR) =0.91 [0.82, 1.00]; control prevalence 0.76%; treatment prevalence 0.68%). In villages randomized to surgical masks (n = 200), the relative reduction was 11.2% overall (aPR = 0.89 [0.78,1.00]) and 34.7% among individuals 60+ (aPR = 0.65 [0.46, 0.85]). No adverse events werereported.

Conclusions: Our intervention demonstrates a scalable and effective method to promote maskadoption and reduce symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections.https://www.poverty-action.org/sites/default/files/publications/Mask_RCT____Symptomatic_Seropositivity_083121.pdf

lefty
09-01-2021, 10:15 AM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p843x403/240139690_5487270008032675_5783163824087117129_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=kSDaU-n7ncwAX_qg3oI&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=e178fb58776c47e23f1491ac8e918d28&oe=6153B21C
https://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/1zenXYoSqgLfjTPhqoEKMqg-1.gif

Winehole23
09-01-2021, 11:15 AM
yeah, that'll work

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Winehole23
09-01-2021, 11:27 AM
Tennessee is getting creamed by COVID

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Ef-man
09-01-2021, 11:42 AM
Help me Jesus, help me! Will these nutjobs ever learn?

A church camp didn’t require vaccinations or masks. It’s now linked to 180 covid cases, CDC says.

An Illinois church camp for teenagers and an affiliated men’s conference that did not mandate masks or require attendees to be vaccinated or tested for the coronavirus have been linked to at least 180 covid-19 infections, according to new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/01/illinois-church-camp-covid-cdc/

Winehole23
09-01-2021, 11:46 AM
olly olly oxen free

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TSA
09-01-2021, 11:53 AM
Huge trial on community masking in Bangladesh.

Surgical mask>cloth masks, but both seemed to reduce the incidence of symptomatic COVID-19.

https://www.poverty-action.org/sites/default/files/publications/Mask_RCT____Symptomatic_Seropositivity_083121.pdf

Interesting. For the 50 year and younger population there was no statistically significant decrease with mask wearing/non-mask wearing.

hater
09-01-2021, 11:53 AM
olly olly oxen free

1433101360296247303

:lmao fatigued teenagers = long covid :lmao :lol

Let me guess they were also lazy, slept a lot and had face breakouts :lol

baseline bum
09-01-2021, 11:56 AM
Still, DQ is good for one thing and one thing only...A lime Freeze, but you have sheppard them thru the process. Not too much lime, not too little. That fuckin' thing when it's made to my specifications blows my fuckin' shorts off.

Nonsense, Heath Blizzards are where it's at.

Winehole23
09-01-2021, 12:00 PM
Interesting. For the 50 year and younger population there was no statistically significant decrease with mask wearing/non-mask wearing."old people don't count"

TSA
09-01-2021, 12:10 PM
"old people don't count"

Exact opposite of what I was pointing out. According to this study old people more than any other group should be wearing surgical masks.

TSA
09-01-2021, 12:14 PM
Exact opposite of what I was pointing out. According to this study old people more than any other group should be wearing surgical masks.

And if we are to take your preprint at face value than anyone under 50 need not wear a mask.

Ef-man
09-01-2021, 12:19 PM
Interesting read that has value though some here will bloviate for the sake of bloviating on which "masks" the authors were writing about.

Massive randomized study is proof that surgical masks limit coronavirus spread, authors say.


The authors of a study based on an enormous randomized research project in Bangladesh say their results offer the best evidence yet that widespread wearing of surgical masks can limit the spread of the coronavirus in communities.

The preprint paper, which tracked more than 340,000 adults across 600 villages in rural Bangladesh, is by far the largest randomized study on the effectiveness of masks at limiting the spread of coronavirus infections.

Its authors say this provides conclusive, real-world evidence for what laboratory work and other research already strongly suggest: mask-wearing can have a significant impact on limiting the spread of symptomatic covid-19, the disease caused by the virus.

“I think this should basically end any scientific debate about whether masks can be effective in combating covid at the population level,” Jason Abaluck, an economist at Yale who helped lead the study, said in an interview, calling it a “a nail in the coffin” of the arguments against masks.

The researchers estimate that among a group of Bangladeshi adults in the study that were encouraged to wear masks, mask-wearing increased by 28.8 percent after the intervention. When tracked, this group saw a 9.3 percent reduction in symptomatic covid-19 seroprevalence, meaning the virus was confirmed by bloodwork, as well as a further 11.9 percent reduction in covid-19 symptoms.

The study’s authors — led by principal investigators Abaluck, Laura Kwong, Steve Luby, Mushfiq Mobarak and Ashley Styczynski — a globe-spanning team that includes researchers from Yale, Stanford and the Bangladeshi nonprofit GreenVoice, emphasized that this did not mean masks were only 9.3 percent effective.

“I think a big error would be to read this study and to say, ‘Oh, masks can only prevent 10 percent of symptomatic infections,’ ” Abaluck said. The number would probably be several times higher if masking were universal, he said.

The study is under peer review with the journal Science. The authors granted journalists an early look at the results because of their potential importance in global public health debates.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/09/01/masks-study-covid-bangladesh/

TSA
09-01-2021, 12:30 PM
Interesting read that has value though some here will bloviate for the sake of bloviating on which "masks" the authors were writing about.

Massive randomized study is proof that surgical masks limit coronavirus spread, authors say.


The authors of a study based on an enormous randomized research project in Bangladesh say their results offer the best evidence yet that widespread wearing of surgical masks can limit the spread of the coronavirus in communities.

The preprint paper, which tracked more than 340,000 adults across 600 villages in rural Bangladesh, is by far the largest randomized study on the effectiveness of masks at limiting the spread of coronavirus infections.

Its authors say this provides conclusive, real-world evidence for what laboratory work and other research already strongly suggest: mask-wearing can have a significant impact on limiting the spread of symptomatic covid-19, the disease caused by the virus.

“I think this should basically end any scientific debate about whether masks can be effective in combating covid at the population level,” Jason Abaluck, an economist at Yale who helped lead the study, said in an interview, calling it a “a nail in the coffin” of the arguments against masks.

The researchers estimate that among a group of Bangladeshi adults in the study that were encouraged to wear masks, mask-wearing increased by 28.8 percent after the intervention. When tracked, this group saw a 9.3 percent reduction in symptomatic covid-19 seroprevalence, meaning the virus was confirmed by bloodwork, as well as a further 11.9 percent reduction in covid-19 symptoms.

The study’s authors — led by principal investigators Abaluck, Laura Kwong, Steve Luby, Mushfiq Mobarak and Ashley Styczynski — a globe-spanning team that includes researchers from Yale, Stanford and the Bangladeshi nonprofit GreenVoice, emphasized that this did not mean masks were only 9.3 percent effective.

“I think a big error would be to read this study and to say, ‘Oh, masks can only prevent 10 percent of symptomatic infections,’ ” Abaluck said. The number would probably be several times higher if masking were universal, he said.

The study is under peer review with the journal Science. The authors granted journalists an early look at the results because of their potential importance in global public health debates.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/09/01/masks-study-covid-bangladesh/

winehole just posted this.

Title of the WaPo article should actually read "Massive randomized study is proof that surgical masks limit coronavirus spread in the 50 and older population. No statistically significant decrease for 50 and younger population, authors say."

Blake
09-01-2021, 12:33 PM
And if we are to take your preprint at face value than anyone under 50 need not wear a mask.

2021 and people still don't understand how masks work

TSA
09-01-2021, 12:37 PM
2021 and people still don't understand how masks work

winehole's and Efman's preprint says mask wearing for the 50 and younger population has no impact on limiting the spread of symptomatic covid-19.

Thread
09-01-2021, 12:38 PM
Nonsense, Heath Blizzards are where it's at.

That's just candy, bum, a gimmick. One will never pass my uvula.

ElNono
09-01-2021, 12:41 PM
Called it. They are flinging shit at this point so much so that FDA bosses are quitting.

Only a lunatic would take the shit boosters if healthy.

https://twitter.com/HeyTammyBruce/status/1432905578947518464?s=19


https://twitter.com/HeidiBriones/status/1432732608102690816?s=19

The administration is wrong on this. It should let the FDA do what they do.

boutons_deux
09-01-2021, 01:20 PM
The administration is wrong on this. It should let the FDA do what they do.

NYtimes email --



The booster-industrial complex






Late last month, researchers in Israel released some alarming new Covid-19 data (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/a/gQ1Ik3RHuC6k9b8fJcGECg~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRjDzVyP4QAAWh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnRpbWVzb2Zpc3JhZWwuY2 9tL2lzcmFlbGktc3R1ZHktY2xhaW1zLW1ham9yLWRyb3AtaW4t dmFjY2luZS1wcm90ZWN0aW9uLWV4cGVydHMtZG9udC1iZWxpZX ZlLWl0Lz9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD05JmVtYz1lZGl0X25uXzIwMjEw ODMwJmluc3RhbmNlX2lkPTM5MTY2Jm5sPXRoZS1tb3JuaW5nJn JlZ2lfaWQ9ODA4MjE3OTcmc2VnbWVudF9pZD02NzYwMiZ0ZT0x JnVzZXJfaWQ9OTkyZDYwODIxNGI1MDUwMDNhYTA0YmYxMGE1OT UwMzFXA255dEIKYSZysCxhcRxK0FITZGFybm9jbmVsQGdtYWls LmNvbVgEAAAAAA~~). The data showed that many Israelis who had been among the first to receive the vaccine were nonetheless catching the Covid virus. Israelis who had been vaccinated later were not getting infected as often.





The study led to headlines around the world about waning immunity — the idea that vaccines lose their effectiveness over time. In the U.S., the Israeli study accelerated a debate about vaccine booster shots and played a role in the Biden administration’s recent recommendation (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/aJxxVtB8fwMLOI3kXk4W4A~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRjDzVyP0TVaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMS 8wOC8xNi91cy9wb2xpdGljcy9ib29zdGVyLXNob3RzLmh0bWw_ Y2FtcGFpZ25faWQ9OSZlbWM9ZWRpdF9ubl8yMDIxMDgzMCZpbn N0YW5jZV9pZD0zOTE2NiZubD10aGUtbW9ybmluZyZyZWdpX2lk PTgwODIxNzk3JnNlZ21lbnRfaWQ9Njc2MDImdGU9MSZ1c2VyX2 lkPTk5MmQ2MDgyMTRiNTA1MDAzYWEwNGJmMTBhNTk1MDMxVwNu eXRCCmEmcrAsYXEcStBSE2Rhcm5vY25lbEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBA AAAAA~) that all Americans receive a booster shot eight months after their second dose.





But the real story about waning immunity is more complex than the initial headlines suggested. Some scientists believe that the Israeli data was misleading and that U.S. policy on booster shots has gotten ahead of the facts. The evidence for waning immunity is murky, these scientists say, and booster shots may not have a big effect.





After returning from an August break last week, I have spent time reaching out to scientists to ask for their help in understanding the current, confusing stage of the pandemic. How worried should vaccinated people be about the Delta variant? How much risk do children face? Which parts of the Covid story are being overhyped, and which deserve more attention?





I will be trying to answer these questions in the coming weeks. (I’d also like to know what questions you want answered; submit them here (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/w3WKxpv89dqUIf5xIPYDNA~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRjDzVyP0TdaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMS 8wOC8zMC9icmllZmluZy9hc2steW91ci1jb3ZpZC1xdWVzdGlv bnMuaHRtbD9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD05JmVtYz1lZGl0X25uXzIwMj EwODMwJmluc3RhbmNlX2lkPTM5MTY2Jm5sPXRoZS1tb3JuaW5n JnJlZ2lfaWQ9ODA4MjE3OTcmc2VnbWVudF9pZD02NzYwMiZ0ZT 0xJnVzZXJfaWQ9OTkyZDYwODIxNGI1MDUwMDNhYTA0YmYxMGE1 OTUwMzFXA255dEIKYSZysCxhcRxK0FITZGFybm9jbmVsQGdtYW lsLmNvbVgEAAAAAA~~).)





One of the main messages I’m hearing from the experts is that conventional wisdom about waning immunity is problematic. Yes, the immunity from the Covid vaccines will wane at some point. But it may not yet have waned in a meaningful way.





“There’s a big difference between needing another shot every six months versus every five years,” Dr. David Dowdy, an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins University, told me. “So far, looking at the data we have, I’m not seeing much evidence that we’ve reached that point yet.”





Simpson strikes again






At first glance, the Israeli data seems straightforward: People who had been vaccinated in the winter were more likely to contract the virus this summer than people who had been vaccinated in the spring.





Yet it would truly be proof of waning immunity only if the two groups — the winter and spring vaccine recipients — were otherwise similar to each other. If not, the other differences between them might be the real reason for the gap in the Covid rates.





As it turns out, the two groups were different. The first Israelis to have received the vaccine tended to be more affluent and educated. By coincidence, these same groups later were among the first exposed to the Delta variant, perhaps because they were more likely to travel. Their higher infection rate may have stemmed from the new risks they were taking, not any change in their vaccine protection.





Statisticians have a name for this possibility — when topline statistics point to a false conclusion that disappears when you examine subgroups. It’s called Simpson’s Paradox (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/a/FBUwXxWj5Jd4y5Dns5vgGA~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRjDzVyP0TmaHR0cHM6Ly90b3dhcmRzZGF0YXNjaWVuY2UuY2 9tL3NpbXBzb25zLXBhcmFkb3gtYW5kLWludGVycHJldGluZy1k YXRhLTZhMDQ0MzUxNjc2NT9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD05JmVtYz1lZG l0X25uXzIwMjEwODMwJmluc3RhbmNlX2lkPTM5MTY2Jm5sPXRo ZS1tb3JuaW5nJnJlZ2lfaWQ9ODA4MjE3OTcmc2VnbWVudF9pZD 02NzYwMiZ0ZT0xJnVzZXJfaWQ9OTkyZDYwODIxNGI1MDUwMDNh YTA0YmYxMGE1OTUwMzFXA255dEIKYSZysCxhcRxK0FITZGFybm 9jbmVsQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAAAAA~~).





This paradox may also explain some of the U.S. data that the C.D.C. has cited to justify booster shots. Many Americans began to resume more indoor activities this spring. That more were getting Covid may reflect their newfound Covid exposure (as well as the arrival of Delta), rather than any waning of immunity over time.





‘Where is it?’






Sure enough, other data supports the notion that vaccine immunity is not waning much.





The ratio of positive Covid tests among older adults and children, for example, does not seem to be changing (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/a/A_TKvH2tqpDGEOjmyBLZMQ~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRjDzVyP0TOaHR0cHM6Ly90d2l0dGVyLmNvbS9kYXZpZHdkb3 dkeS9zdGF0dXMvMTQzMTExMzA5MjU4MzM3MDc1NT9jYW1wYWln bl9pZD05JmVtYz1lZGl0X25uXzIwMjEwODMwJmluc3RhbmNlX2 lkPTM5MTY2Jm5sPXRoZS1tb3JuaW5nJnJlZ2lfaWQ9ODA4MjE3 OTcmc2VnbWVudF9pZD02NzYwMiZ0ZT0xJnVzZXJfaWQ9OTkyZD YwODIxNGI1MDUwMDNhYTA0YmYxMGE1OTUwMzFXA255dEIKYSZy sCxhcRxK0FITZGFybm9jbmVsQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAAAAA~~), Dowdy notes. If waning immunity were a major problem, we should expect to see a faster rise in Covid cases among older people (who were among the first to receive shots). And even the Israeli analysis showed that the vaccines continued to prevent serious Covid illness at essentially the same rate as before.





“If there’s data proving the need for boosters, where is it?” Zeynep Tufekci, the sociologist and Times columnist, has written (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/SH164iwRWW62AbzaeZDfSA~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRjDzVyP0TXaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMS 8wOC8yNy9vcGluaW9uL2NvdmlkLWRhdGEtdmFjY2luZXMuaHRt bD9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD05JmVtYz1lZGl0X25uXzIwMjEwODMwJm luc3RhbmNlX2lkPTM5MTY2Jm5sPXRoZS1tb3JuaW5nJnJlZ2lf aWQ9ODA4MjE3OTcmc2VnbWVudF9pZD02NzYwMiZ0ZT0xJnVzZX JfaWQ9OTkyZDYwODIxNGI1MDUwMDNhYTA0YmYxMGE1OTUwMzFX A255dEIKYSZysCxhcRxK0FITZGFybm9jbmVsQGdtYWlsLmNvbV gEAAAAAA~~).





Part of the problem is that the waning-immunity story line is irresistible to many people. The vaccine makers — Pfizer, Moderna and others — have an incentive to promote it, because booster shots will bring them big profits. The C.D.C. and F.D.A., for their part, have a history of extreme caution (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/2JLfCXnYCREvjrGgKah-lQ~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRjDzVyP0TqaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMS 8wNS8xMS9icmllZmluZy9vdXRkb29yLWNvdmlkLXRyYW5zbWlz c2lvbi1jZGMtbnVtYmVyLmh0bWw_Y2FtcGFpZ25faWQ9OSZlbW M9ZWRpdF9ubl8yMDIxMDgzMCZpbnN0YW5jZV9pZD0zOTE2NiZu bD10aGUtbW9ybmluZyZyZWdpX2lkPTgwODIxNzk3JnNlZ21lbn RfaWQ9Njc2MDImdGU9MSZ1c2VyX2lkPTk5MmQ2MDgyMTRiNTA1 MDAzYWEwNGJmMTBhNTk1MDMxVwNueXRCCmEmcrAsYXEcStBSE2 Rhcm5vY25lbEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAAA~), even when it harms public health (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/NZScABckgVUW3DKxXqlAxQ~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRjDzVyP0TgaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMS 8wOC8yNC9icmllZmluZy9mZGEtcGZpemVyLXZhY2NpbmUtYXBw cm92YWwuaHRtbD9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD05JmVtYz1lZGl0X25uXz IwMjEwODMwJmluc3RhbmNlX2lkPTM5MTY2Jm5sPXRoZS1tb3Ju aW5nJnJlZ2lfaWQ9ODA4MjE3OTcmc2VnbWVudF9pZD02NzYwMi Z0ZT0xJnVzZXJfaWQ9OTkyZDYwODIxNGI1MDUwMDNhYTA0YmYx MGE1OTUwMzFXA255dEIKYSZysCxhcRxK0FITZGFybm9jbmVsQG dtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAAAAA~~). We in the media tend to suffer from bad-news bias (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/gc4xqq5M24CKCJipqtTBZg~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRjDzVyP0TuaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMS 8wMy8yNC9icmllZmluZy9ib3VsZGVyLXNob290aW5nLWdlb3Jn ZS1zZWdhbC1hc3RyYXplbmVjYS5odG1sP2NhbXBhaWduX2lkPT kmZW1jPWVkaXRfbm5fMjAyMTA4MzAmaW5zdGFuY2VfaWQ9Mzkx NjYmbmw9dGhlLW1vcm5pbmcmcmVnaV9pZD04MDgyMTc5NyZzZW dtZW50X2lkPTY3NjAyJnRlPTEmdXNlcl9pZD05OTJkNjA4MjE0 YjUwNTAwM2FhMDRiZjEwYTU5NTAzMVcDbnl0QgphJnKwLGFxHE rQUhNkYXJub2NuZWxAZ21haWwuY29tWAQAAAAA). And many Americans are so understandably frightened by Covid that they pay more attention to alarming signs than reassuring ones.





The bottom line






Here’s my best attempt to give you an objective summary of the evidence, free from alarmism — and acknowledging uncertainty:





Immunity does probably wane modestly within the first year of receiving a shot. For this reason, booster shots make sense for vulnerable people, many experts believe. As Dr. Céline Gounder of Bellevue Hospital Center told (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/B_AoqaU91nH5IGFfyCtC3Q~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRjDzVyP0TdaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMS 8wOC8xOC9oZWFsdGgvY292aWQtY2RjLWJvb3N0ZXJzLWVsZGVy bHkuaHRtbD9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD05JmVtYz1lZGl0X25uXzIwMj EwODMwJmluc3RhbmNlX2lkPTM5MTY2Jm5sPXRoZS1tb3JuaW5n JnJlZ2lfaWQ9ODA4MjE3OTcmc2VnbWVudF9pZD02NzYwMiZ0ZT 0xJnVzZXJfaWQ9OTkyZDYwODIxNGI1MDUwMDNhYTA0YmYxMGE1 OTUwMzFXA255dEIKYSZysCxhcRxK0FITZGFybm9jbmVsQGdtYW lsLmNvbVgEAAAAAA~~) my colleague Apoorva Mandavilli, the C.D.C.’s data “support giving additional doses of vaccine to highly immunocompromised persons and nursing home residents, not to the general public.”





The current booster shots may do little good for most people. The vaccines continue to provide excellent protection against illness (as opposed to merely a positive Covid test). People will eventually need boosters, but it may make more sense to wait for one specifically designed to combat a variant. “We don’t know whether a non-Delta booster would improve protection against Delta,” Dr. Aaron Richterman of the University of Pennsylvania told me.





A national policy of frequent booster shots has significant costs, financially and otherwise. Among other things, the exaggerated discussion of waning immunity contributes to vaccine skepticism.

boutons_deux
09-01-2021, 01:23 PM
Early COVID-19 Shutdowns Helped St. Louis Area Avoid Thousands Of Deaths

In March 2020, not long after the first cases of COVID-19 were reported locally,

health officials in the city of St. Louis and St. Louis County issued emergency public health orders intended to reduce interactions between people and slow the transmission of the novel respiratory virus.

Such action likely saved thousands of lives in the region,

An analysis indicates that

a delay of even two weeks in issuing local public health orders could have increased the number of deaths almost sevenfold in the city and county.

https://scienceblog.com/525129/early-covid-19-shutdowns-helped-st-louis-area-avoid-thousands-of-deaths

baseline bum
09-01-2021, 01:33 PM
That's just candy, bum, a gimmick. One will never pass my uvula.

I'll pass something through your uvula. Haven't showered in two days so it'll be extra salty.

Thread
09-01-2021, 02:04 PM
Early COVID-19 Shutdowns Helped St. Louis Area Avoid Thousands Of Deaths

In March 2020, not long after the first cases of COVID-19 were reported locally,

health officials in the city of St. Louis and St. Louis County issued emergency public health orders intended to reduce interactions between people and slow the transmission of the novel respiratory virus.

Such action likely saved thousands of lives in the region,

An analysis indicates that

a delay of even two weeks in issuing local public health orders could have increased the number of deaths almost sevenfold in the city and county.

https://scienceblog.com/525129/early-covid-19-shutdowns-helped-st-louis-area-avoid-thousands-of-deaths

Tell that to your Biden, bouts...he opened the enchilada wide for the July 4th holiday.

Thread
09-01-2021, 02:05 PM
I'll pass something through your uvula. Haven't showered in two days so it'll be extra salty.

"See, we were having a nice conversation, Dale, and you turned it into something sexual like you always do." - Girl

"tee, hee." - Dale

ChumpDumper
09-01-2021, 02:07 PM
winehole just posted this.

Title of the WaPo article should actually read "Massive randomized study is proof that surgical masks limit coronavirus spread in the 50 and older population. No statistically significant decrease for 50 and younger population, authors say."Titles traditionally aren't 28 words long.

Blake
09-01-2021, 02:17 PM
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/LoathsomeThisAnkole-max-1mb.gif

SnakeBoy
09-01-2021, 02:33 PM
I'll pass something through your uvula. Haven't showered in two days so it'll be extra salty.

So they taste salty?

boutons_deux
09-01-2021, 02:39 PM
Deputies had to break up fights at a Florida school district office that announced a mask mandate

Fists were "flying" and doctors were "shoved" on Monday after a mask mandate was announced at the Lee County School District board meeting

in Florida :lol

The majority of parents who spoke at the meeting were against the mask mandate.

One man somehow connected the mandate to child sex trafficking, claiming,

"by putting masks on these kids' face, you can't identify any of 'em, so by the nine of you [school board officials] voting already on this,

tells me you guys support sex trafficking." :lol

A woman, wearing a 'My Body, My Choice' sticker, argued that kids "eat their masks." :lol

Leaving the building after the meeting, the doctor was "shoved,"

https://theweek.com/coronavirus/1004374/florida-school-mask-mandate-fights

boutons_deux
09-01-2021, 02:54 PM
Flu season will be bad this year, research predicts

Flu activity has been virtually nonexistent during the COVID-19 pandemic, but that could change soon.

https://www.livescience.com/flu-season-comeback-covid-2021-2022.html

boutons_deux
09-01-2021, 03:15 PM
— A Central Texas school district closed its schools until after the Labor Day holiday Tuesday after two teachers died last week of COVID-19.

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Texas-school-system-close-2-teachers-die-COVID-16427858.php

homicides by shitbag Abbutt and his gang of shitbags in shithole Texas

Thread
09-01-2021, 03:29 PM
Flu season will be bad this year, research predicts

Flu activity has been virtually nonexistent during the COVID-19 pandemic, but that could change soon.

https://www.livescience.com/flu-season-comeback-covid-2021-2022.html


I just hope & pray the sneaky bastards don't start switching all the COVID deaths over into the Flu stack.

We ain't had a (Flu death) since January of '20 for Christ sake.

Thread
09-01-2021, 03:30 PM
— A Central Texas school district closed its schools until after the Labor Day holiday Tuesday after two teachers died last week of COVID-19.

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Texas-school-system-close-2-teachers-die-COVID-16427858.php

homicides by shitbag Abbutt and his gang of shitbags in shithole Texas

All schools should be closed and padlockedPERIOD

hater
09-01-2021, 05:24 PM
Ivermrectum seems to work nigs.

Where can I order some?

https://twitter.com/zachzachzach/status/1433165332928032768?s=19


Can it be ingested w milk and cereal?

Trill Clinton
09-01-2021, 05:38 PM
This clown took everything except the vaccine

1433165332928032768

hater
09-01-2021, 05:39 PM
This clown took everything except the vaccine

1433165332928032768

:tu

And recovered in 3 days


:tu

TSA
09-01-2021, 05:47 PM
This clown took everything except the vaccine

1433165332928032768

Go Joe go!

ChumpDumper
09-01-2021, 05:51 PM
:lol ST Trumptards are vaccinated anti-vaxxers

hater
09-01-2021, 05:52 PM
Go Joe go!

:lol

Blake
09-01-2021, 06:03 PM
Lol rooting for horse pills to work

Jesus Christ :lol

hater
09-01-2021, 06:04 PM
Lol rooting for horse pills to work

Jesus Christ :lol

They do. On amazon now ordering a stash :tu

RandomGuy
09-01-2021, 06:05 PM
Maths time.

Per polling:

86% of Dems are vaxxed
63% of independents
54% of Fascists

29% of population identify as Democrat
40% are independent
28% are identify with the fascist party

Crunch the numbers a bit.

14% of Democrats who are 29% of the population are unvaxxed.
37% of Independents who are 40% of the population are unvaxxed.
46% of Fascists who are 28% of the population are unvaxxed.


Crunch the numbers a bit more.

Ratios for unvaxxed are:

12% Democrat
44% Independent
44% Fascist

Since the vast majority of the deaths, say 98%, to keep it easy are unvaxxed, that means that for every 10,000 deaths (vaxxed and unvaxxed)

Roughly:
1247 Democrats died.
4346 Independents died.
4407 Fascists died.

Fascists are dying off 3.5 times faster than Democrats.

Hooray Freedumbs?

Blake
09-01-2021, 06:06 PM
They do. On amazon now ordering a stash :tu

Who is ordering now? You?

Lol

Thread
09-01-2021, 06:06 PM
Maths time.

Per polling:

86% of Dems are vaxxed
63% of independents
54% of Fascists

29% of population identify as Democrat
40% are independent
28% are identify with the fascist party

Crunch the numbers a bit.

14% of Democrats who are 29% of the population are unvaxxed.
37% of Independents who are 40% of the population are unvaxxed.
46% of Fascists who are 28% of the population are unvaxxed.


Crunch the numbers a bit more.

Ratios for unvaxxed are:

12% Democrat
44% Independent
44% Fascist

Since the vast majority of the deaths, say 98%, to keep it easy are unvaxxed, that means that for every 10,000 deaths (vaxxed and unvaxxed)

Roughly:
1247 Democrats died.
4346 Independents died.
4407 Fascists died.

Fascists are dying off 3.5 times faster than Democrats.

Hooray Freedumbs?

Boiled down:::

Trump: 400k
Biden: 250k and counting, son.

hater
09-01-2021, 06:12 PM
Boiled down:::

Trump: 400k
Biden: 250k and counting, son.

:tu

hater
09-01-2021, 07:20 PM
https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1433210614038646792?s=19

hater
09-01-2021, 07:38 PM
Even if we boost as much as Israel it wont do much

Sciene.org

Yet boosters are unlikely to tame a Delta surge on their own, says Dvir Aran, a biomedical data scientist at Technion. In Israel, the current surge is so steep that “even if you get two-thirds of those 60-plus [boosted], it’s just gonna give us another week, maybe 2 weeks until our hospitals are flooded.” He says it’s also critical to vaccinate those who still haven’t received their first or second doses, and to return to the masking and social distancing Israel thought it had left behind—but has begun to reinstate.

Aran’s message for the United States and other wealthier nations considering boosters is stark: “Do not think that the boosters are the solution.”

If Biden does not implement Federal lockdowns and mask mandates. We are gonna see a bloodbath

hater
09-01-2021, 09:39 PM
MkqQIY7J0fQ


:lmao Falsuchi

this fuck Falsuchi was fucking us for decades :pctoss

boutons_deux
09-01-2021, 09:42 PM
Most pro-Trump counties have three times the COVID death toll as the most pro-Biden counties

https://www.rawstory.com/red-states-surge-trump

boutons_deux
09-01-2021, 09:44 PM
13-year-old boy dies from COVID with no warning (https://www.rawstory.com/19-child/)
https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzM3NDY2My9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTYzMzAzOTgxOH0.W2-xNiH4J5JC9w7lPs69c_8asXoVXO1tg-apxQjwrf8/image.jpg?width=1200&height=730

https://www.rawstory.com/19-child

and he was a picture of excellent health

boutons_deux
09-01-2021, 09:47 PM
Cook Children’s in Fort Worth:

‘We are hitting a crisis mode’ with COVID-19 (https://link.dallasnews.com/lt.php?i=18878A19523A104A859217)













Cook Children’s Health Care System is struggling to treat patients as unprecedented demand related to COVID-19 is severely straining the health care system, doctors said at a news conference Wednesday.

In a news conference charged with emotion,

physicians pleaded with the community to wear masks, avoid large gatherings and vaccinate.

"Delta changed everything. Delta loves kids,"

said Dr. Corwin Warmink, emergency services medical director.

"The storyline that this doesn’t affect children just isn’t true anymore. (https://link.dallasnews.com/lt.php?i=18878A19523A104A859217)"








-- Dallas Morning News

DMC
09-01-2021, 09:49 PM
Occupy Democrats :lol

Boutons :lol

DMC
09-01-2021, 09:52 PM
Maths time.

Per polling:

86% of Dems are vaxxed
63% of independents
54% of Fascists

29% of population identify as Democrat
40% are independent
28% are identify with the fascist party

Crunch the numbers a bit.

14% of Democrats who are 29% of the population are unvaxxed.
37% of Independents who are 40% of the population are unvaxxed.
46% of Fascists who are 28% of the population are unvaxxed.


Crunch the numbers a bit more.

Ratios for unvaxxed are:

12% Democrat
44% Independent
44% Fascist

Since the vast majority of the deaths, say 98%, to keep it easy are unvaxxed, that means that for every 10,000 deaths (vaxxed and unvaxxed)

Roughly:
1247 Democrats died.
4346 Independents died.
4407 Fascists died.

Fascists are dying off 3.5 times faster than Democrats.

Hooray Freedumbs?

That math just doesn't add up. So dems are vaccinated at 86% and independents at 63% yet independents are dying at a rate the same as those vaxxed at 54%?

Also you have somewhere close to 100% of the population unvaxxed :lol

You stupid

boutons_deux
09-01-2021, 09:59 PM
Judge orders hospital to treat Ohio Covid patient with ivermectin


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/31/ivermectin-covid-ohio-judge-orders-hospital



ha ha hi yo

Ef-man
09-01-2021, 10:09 PM
MAGAtard Marine booted for not following order to wear a mask! :lmao

Marine Corps corporal receives lightning-fast dismissal over refusal to wear a mask.

Marine Cpl. Whitney McHaffie refused to comply with a mask mandate and doesn't want to be vaccinated against COVID-19.

A month after the Defense Department's mask mandate for unvaccinated troops went into effect, she was booted from the military, possibly making her the first service member to be forced out of the service for violating COVID-related rules.

In an interview with Military.com, McHaffie said the mask mandate violated her religious liberties. She said that she doesn't believe masks are effective and wearing them would be to bear false witness, a violation of the ninth commandment in Judaism and Christianity.

McHaffie said that she cannot morally take a vaccine because they are derivatives of aborted fetal tissue."It's against my religion because it's associated with aborted fetal tissue, I'm catholic," she said. "I'm not against vaccines, for me it's about religious freedom, choice and health concerns. :lmao :lmao

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/marine-corps-corporal-receives-lightning-fast-dismissal-over-refusal-to-wear-a-mask/ar-AANZqE5?ocid=msedgntp

diego
09-01-2021, 10:27 PM
here in chile we are now at 80%+ double dose vaccinated (not counting children under 13, we have a mix of say 55% sinovac, 30% astrazeneca and 15% pfizer), and cases have dropped radically (despite delta coming in from the US a couple months ago), positivity is now under 1%, several regions have 0 cases- sinovac works, as do masks and travel restrictions (which tightened once those delta cases came in). Everything is opening back up save for travel, masks still required in public areas and all gatherings have a limit of people/sqft, which changes from indoor/outdoor and is halved if there is just one person present without their double dose of vaccine- for example i can have a party with 100 people in my yard/10 inside if double vaccinated, but only 50/5 if just one of them doesnt have their vaccine card (i have a big yard :lol). if police catch a house party or club breaking the rules the owners get a fine.

There was a moment when we were at 70%+ and delta was coming in, that our cases were still really high and it looked like it was all a failure, but credit where its due these policies- and the vaccines- have worked.

im curious why israel has been such a mess given they had a better rollout with pfizer, im guessing they allowed more travel/less masks and got bit in the ass for it

hater
09-01-2021, 10:39 PM
here in chile we are now at 80%+ double dose vaccinated (not counting children under 13, we have a mix of say 55% sinovac, 30% astrazeneca and 15% pfizer), and cases have dropped radically (despite delta coming in from the US a couple months ago), positivity is now under 1%, several regions have 0 cases- sinovac works, as do masks and travel restrictions (which tightened once those delta cases came in). Everything is opening back up save for travel, masks still required in public areas and all gatherings have a limit of people/sqft, which changes from indoor/outdoor and is halved if there is just one person present without their double dose of vaccine- for example i can have a party with 100 people in my yard/10 inside if double vaccinated, but only 50/5 if just one of them doesnt have their vaccine card (i have a big yard :lol). if police catch a house party or club breaking the rules the owners get a fine.

There was a moment when we were at 70%+ and delta was coming in, that our cases were still really high and it looked like it was all a failure, but credit where its due these policies- and the vaccines- have worked.

im curious why israel has been such a mess given they had a better rollout with pfizer, im guessing they allowed more travel/less masks and got bit in the ass for it

Many countries in south america are experiencing a drop. Could be seasonal trends more than a +10% vaccination.

Pfizer has been proven the most inefficient at long lasting protection. Also Israel started vaccinating in Jan and had almost completed vaccinating all adults in March. Thus why they are now throwing shit at this point to see what sticks qnd the US seems will follow suit

Whats crazy is still summer. Assuming most idiots get 3rd booster now. Whatbthe fuck will happen come January mid winter and cases spike again???

diego
09-01-2021, 10:51 PM
dude its winter here. and cases here in chile didnt drop, theyve plummeted over 90%. unfortunately most other south american countries arent near chile's vaccination rollout and case drop, the vaccines work and having massive coverage makes a difference

hater
09-01-2021, 10:57 PM
dude its winter here. and cases here in chile didnt drop, theyve plummeted over 90%. unfortunately most other south american countries arent near chile's vaccination rollout and case drop, the vaccines work and having massive coverage makes a difference

If vaccines worked we wouldnt be talking about boosters.

Maybe that chinese vax works. Maybe. Or maybe they all have varying but similar waning protection.

Point is if we have a big spike come winter after a 3rd booster..we.woukd be talking about 5 month boosters for years :lmao :lmao

In other words one of the most epic dumpster fires in history :lol

Blake
09-01-2021, 11:10 PM
Could be seasonal trends more than a +10% vaccination.....

Whats crazy is still summer. Assuming most idiots get 3rd booster now. Whatbthe fuck will happen come January mid winter and cases spike again???


dude its winter here.

:lol

pgardn
09-01-2021, 11:15 PM
MAGAtard Marine booted for not following order to wear a mask! :lmao

Marine Corps corporal receives lightning-fast dismissal over refusal to wear a mask.

Marine Cpl. Whitney McHaffie refused to comply with a mask mandate and doesn't want to be vaccinated against COVID-19.

A month after the Defense Department's mask mandate for unvaccinated troops went into effect, she was booted from the military, possibly making her the first service member to be forced out of the service for violating COVID-related rules.

In an interview with Military.com, McHaffie said the mask mandate violated her religious liberties. She said that she doesn't believe masks are effective and wearing them would be to bear false witness, a violation of the ninth commandment in Judaism and Christianity.

McHaffie said that she cannot morally take a vaccine because they are derivatives of aborted fetal tissue."It's against my religion because it's associated with aborted fetal tissue, I'm catholic," she said. "I'm not against vaccines, for me it's about religious freedom, choice and health concerns. :lmao :lmao

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/marine-corps-corporal-receives-lightning-fast-dismissal-over-refusal-to-wear-a-mask/ar-AANZqE5?ocid=msedgntp

How did she ever make the huge leap to corporal?
Just by breathing...

pgardn
09-01-2021, 11:34 PM
If vaccines worked we wouldnt be talking about boosters.

Maybe that chinese vax works. Maybe. Or maybe they all have varying but similar waning protection.

Point is if we have a big spike come winter after a 3rd booster..we.woukd be talking about 5 month boosters for years :lmao :lmao

In other words one of the most epic dumpster fires in history :lol

We can make entirely new vaccines.
But this vaccine works in most cases extraordinarily well as it does STILL recognize the virus.
The most credible current theory is that the delta variant is coming with huge dosage to people who already have weakened immune systems. They cant keep up, but they do recognize the viral protein shape. Boosters make perfect sense for them. If tetanus came in large doses we would have to increase the number of tetanus boosters as well. A boost, is not a completely different vaccine. We have not come to that point.

This virus is most likely special because of the sheer number of viral particles it can cause some bodies to produce and the rapidity of its cellular takeover, its not the novelty of calling it delta. And again, by far the largest problems occur in UNVACCINATED people. Mask and get vaccinated. Do BOTH. But people like you were hesitant to do either, and now poor hater has given up hope, dashed against the rocks because his Trumpistas wont do either. And they also led the spread. Sorry you cant face up to it.

So Stop your whining ya damn Sandinistan fruit cake.

btw, look on a map. Chile is a very longitudinally oriented country. And ALL of it is SOUTH of the equator. unless they own some little island i am not familiar with...

SnakeBoy
09-01-2021, 11:47 PM
Maths time.

Per polling:

86% of Dems are vaxxed
63% of independents
54% of Fascists

29% of population identify as Democrat
40% are independent
28% are identify with the fascist party

Crunch the numbers a bit.

14% of Democrats who are 29% of the population are unvaxxed.
37% of Independents who are 40% of the population are unvaxxed.
46% of Fascists who are 28% of the population are unvaxxed.


Crunch the numbers a bit more.

Ratios for unvaxxed are:

12% Democrat
44% Independent
44% Fascist

Since the vast majority of the deaths, say 98%, to keep it easy are unvaxxed, that means that for every 10,000 deaths (vaxxed and unvaxxed)

Roughly:
1247 Democrats died.
4346 Independents died.
4407 Fascists died.

Fascists are dying off 3.5 times faster than Democrats.

Hooray Freedumbs?

lol every time you put your critical thinking cap on it's a shit show

daboom1
09-02-2021, 01:53 AM
https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1433216177506029572?t

ChumpDumper
09-02-2021, 02:35 AM
https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1433216177506029572?t:lol he left out the most important treatment.

:lol you're a gullible rube.

Frenchfred
09-02-2021, 02:46 AM
If vaccines worked we wouldnt be talking about boosters.

Maybe that chinese vax works. Maybe. Or maybe they all have varying but similar waning protection.

Point is if we have a big spike come winter after a 3rd booster..we.woukd be talking about 5 month boosters for years :lmao :lmao

In other words one of the most epic dumpster fires in history :lol

the fact that you need a booster doesn't mean that vaccines don't work just that antibodies are going down fast. Vaccines are buying us some time to come up with a better vaccine (long lasting), treatments and not overwhelming hospitals. At this point, those against vaccines have no argument, it is a position they have chosen and they don't want to change

Frenchfred
09-02-2021, 02:47 AM
Maths time.

Per polling:

86% of Dems are vaxxed
63% of independents
54% of Fascists

29% of population identify as Democrat
40% are independent
28% are identify with the fascist party

Crunch the numbers a bit.

14% of Democrats who are 29% of the population are unvaxxed.
37% of Independents who are 40% of the population are unvaxxed.
46% of Fascists who are 28% of the population are unvaxxed.


Crunch the numbers a bit more.

Ratios for unvaxxed are:

12% Democrat
44% Independent
44% Fascist

Since the vast majority of the deaths, say 98%, to keep it easy are unvaxxed, that means that for every 10,000 deaths (vaxxed and unvaxxed)

Roughly:
1247 Democrats died.
4346 Independents died.
4407 Fascists died.

Fascists are dying off 3.5 times faster than Democrats.

Hooray Freedumbs?
:bobo

hater
09-02-2021, 06:00 AM
the fact that you need a booster doesn't mean that vaccines don't work just that antibodies are going down fast. Vaccines are buying us some time to come up with a better vaccine (long lasting), treatments and not overwhelming hospitals. At this point, those against vaccines have no argument, it is a position they have chosen and they don't want to change

If you need a booster every 5 or 6 months sorry to break it go you. Your vaccine is complete shit.

Therapeutics and building natural immunity is where its at. God knows what d fuck you are doing to your immune system injecting shit every 5 months. Only a lunatic would allow that.

hater
09-02-2021, 06:32 AM
:lmao ma niga Bellicick is reading my posts :lol

https://twitter.com/MikeGiardi/status/1433042051642318849?s=19

RandomGuy
09-02-2021, 08:49 AM
lol every time you put your critical thinking cap on it's a shit show

Feel free to find fault in the logic. I am merely pointing out the hard, real math.

Reality does not care about your glib, lazy, throwaway quips.

This reality bothers you. Why?

Blake
09-02-2021, 09:19 AM
https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1433216177506029572?t

Oh well then there it is. Nobody should need a ventilator ever again.

boutons_deux
09-02-2021, 09:36 AM
A precedes B

therefore

A causes B

:lol

There's no way to know if ivermectin had any effect on JR's covid

M's of people have had nearly symptomless, mild, short-term covid w/o ivermectin

TSA
09-02-2021, 10:08 AM
We can make entirely new vaccines.
But this vaccine works in most cases extraordinarily well as it does STILL recognize the virus.
The most credible current theory is that the delta variant is coming with huge dosage to people who already have weakened immune systems. They cant keep up, but they do recognize the viral protein shape. Boosters make perfect sense for them. If tetanus came in large doses we would have to increase the number of tetanus boosters as well. A boost, is not a completely different vaccine. We have not come to that point.

This virus is most likely special because of the sheer number of viral particles it can cause some bodies to produce and the rapidity of its cellular takeover, its not the novelty of calling it delta. And again, by far the largest problems occur in UNVACCINATED people. Mask if you are over 50 years old and get vaccinated. Do BOTH. But people like you were hesitant to do either, and now poor hater has given up hope, dashed against the rocks because his Trumpistas wont do either. And they also led the spread. Sorry you cant face up to it.

So Stop your whining ya damn Sandinistan fruit cake.

btw, look on a map. Chile is a very longitudinally oriented country. And ALL of it is SOUTH of the equator. unless they own some little island i am not familiar with...

FIFY

Blake
09-02-2021, 10:13 AM
FIFY

Still doesn't understand how masks work.

2021

TSA
09-02-2021, 10:29 AM
Still doesn't understand how masks work.

2021
This study should basically end any scientific debate about whether masks for the under 50 population can be effective in combating covid at the population level as there is no statistically significant decrease. A nail in the coffin for the arguments on masks for under 50 population.

https://www.poverty-action.org/sites/default/files/publications/Mask_RCT____Symptomatic_Seropositivity_083121.pdf

ChumpDumper
09-02-2021, 10:32 AM
TSA doubling down on stupid.

The actual study shits directly in his mouth.

Summary: A randomized-trial of community-level mask promotion in rural Bangladesh during
COVID-19 shows that the intervention tripled mask usage and reduced symptomatic SARS-CoV-2
infections, demonstrating that promoting community mask-wearing can improve public health.

What a fucking moronanon.

Winehole23
09-02-2021, 11:00 AM
This study should basically end any scientific debate about whether masks for the under 50 population can be effective in combating covid at the population level as there is no statistically significant decrease. A nail in the coffin for the arguments on masks for under 50 population.

https://www.poverty-action.org/sites/default/files/publications/Mask_RCT____Symptomatic_Seropositivity_083121.pdfW alk us through the methdology, how does the study prove that?

TSA
09-02-2021, 11:05 AM
Walk us through the methdology, how does the study prove that?

Did you not even read the study you posted and pants yourself again? :lol

Winehole23
09-02-2021, 11:08 AM
Did you not even read the study you posted and pants yourself again? :lolI don't see how you reached your conclusion. Seems like you leapt to it based on a single data point, and not considering how community masking seems to have had have a statistically significant effect.

ChumpDumper
09-02-2021, 11:13 AM
1433056268743323654
1433056679768301570

Jesus, Hillary destroyed TSAnon's brain.

TSA
09-02-2021, 11:14 AM
I don't see how you reached your conclusion. Seems like you leapt to it based on a single data point, and not considering how community masking seems to have had have a statistically significant effect.

Not on the 50 and younger population.

Winehole23
09-02-2021, 11:16 AM
Not on the 50 and younger population.so what? it protects those most vulnerable and lowers the overall incidence/spread of disease, which the point.

whether it reliably protects any given individual is neither here nor there.

TSA
09-02-2021, 11:24 AM
so what? it protects those most vulnerable and lowers the overall incidence/spread of disease, which the point.

whether it reliably protects any given individual is neither here nor there.

I was just surprised to see the subgroup breakdown and am busting your balls :lol

Winehole23
09-02-2021, 11:31 AM
I was just surprised to see the subgroup breakdown and am busting your balls :lol

https://i.gifer.com/14bT.gif

daboom1
09-02-2021, 11:57 AM
:lmao ma niga Bellicick is reading my posts :lol

https://twitter.com/MikeGiardi/status/1433042051642318849?s=19

More respect for Bill :tu

Winehole23
09-02-2021, 11:58 AM
Moderna

(not sure how much there is to it, but an English study posted here awhile back suggested the optimum interval between vaccine doses might be up to 12 weeks.)

https://www.foxnews.com/health/moderna-covid-19-vaccine-antibodies-pfizer-shot-study

in the same vein:


An extended interval before the second dose of ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 leads to increased antibody titres. A third dose of ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 induces antibodies to a level that correlates with high efficacy after second dose and boosts T-cell responses.

the eye opener here is how long the most effective measured interval between first and second doses was: 44-45 weeks


Antibody titres were higher 28 days after vaccination in those with a longer interval between first and second dose than for those with a short interval (median total IgG titre: 923 EUs [IQR 525–1764] with an 8–12 week interval; 1860 EUs [917–4934] with a 15–25 week interval; and 3738 EUs [1824–6625] with a 44–45 week interval). Among participants who received a third dose of vaccine, antibody titres (measured in 73 [81%] participants for whom samples were available) were significantly higher 28 days after a third dose (median total IgG titre: 3746 EUs [IQR 2047–6420]) than 28 days after a second dose (median 1792 EUs [IQR 899–4634]https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01699-8/fulltext

Winehole23
09-02-2021, 03:09 PM
A welcome dip in hospitalizations

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/blob:https://www.spurstalk.com/22ddf632-bcb9-4d19-80a8-9777adc4bbda

Winehole23
09-02-2021, 03:10 PM
State by state

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/blob:https://www.spurstalk.com/7a844de1-f35c-4edc-a4d8-b9c012ac1d2f

Adam Lambert
09-02-2021, 03:35 PM
That math just doesn't add up. So dems are vaccinated at 86% and independents at 63% yet independents are dying at a rate the same as those vaxxed at 54%?

Similar raw death totals is not a similar "rate." Rate is percentage.

If Independents are a larger % of the population than Republicans, their raw death totals could still be near or higher total Republican deaths even with a higher death rate for Republicans.


Also you have somewhere close to 100% of the population unvaxxed :lol

No he doesn't. That's a breakdown of the affiliations of all unvaccinated people. It's supposed to add to 100%.


You stupid

Math is not your strong suit. You should probably avoid these types of discussions.

Winehole23
09-02-2021, 03:37 PM
Thread.

What Chicago did in 1918 to avoid a second wave of the flu.

1373213628493664256

DMC
09-02-2021, 03:39 PM
Similar raw death totals is not a similar "rate." Rate is percentage.

If Independents are a larger % of the population than Republicans, their raw death totals could still be near or higher total Republican deaths even with a higher death rate for Republicans.



No he doesn't. That's a breakdown of the affiliations of all unvaccinated people. It's supposed to add to 100%.



Math is not your strong suit. You should probably avoid these types of discussions.

https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/FT_19.05.15_Independents_ThoughfourintenAmericansc allthemselvesindependent.png

We've had so many Independent presidents it stands to reason the population is so much higher :lol

hater
09-02-2021, 03:40 PM
Thread.

What Chicago did in 1918 to avoid a second wave of the flu.

1373213628493664256

They also drank Cocaine in.the coke tbqh

Adam Lambert
09-02-2021, 03:43 PM
We've had so many Independent presidents it stands to reason the population is so much higher :lol

I mean I agree that most self described Independents are full of shit, but that's kind of irrelevant to the exercise from a math standpoint.

DMX7
09-02-2021, 03:44 PM
https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/FT_19.05.15_Independents_ThoughfourintenAmericansc allthemselvesindependent.png

We've had so many Independent presidents it stands to reason the population is so much higher :lol

Some people love to pretend their independent and then they spew the same old political talking points almost as if reading from a teleprompter.

Winehole23
09-02-2021, 03:49 PM
They also drank Cocaine in.the coke tbqhit worked

hater
09-02-2021, 03:49 PM
it worked

:tu

DMC
09-02-2021, 03:50 PM
I mean I agree that most self described Independents are full of shit, but that's kind of irrelevant to the exercise from a math standpoint.

It depends on how you interpret the wording.

ChumpDumper
09-02-2021, 03:50 PM
If asked before posting the graph, DMC would've declared himself an independent.

DMC
09-02-2021, 03:51 PM
We can make entirely new vaccines.
But this vaccine works in most cases extraordinarily well as it does STILL recognize the virus.
The most credible current theory is that the delta variant is coming with huge dosage to people who already have weakened immune systems. They cant keep up, but they do recognize the viral protein shape. Boosters make perfect sense for them. If tetanus came in large doses we would have to increase the number of tetanus boosters as well. A boost, is not a completely different vaccine. We have not come to that point.

This virus is most likely special because of the sheer number of viral particles it can cause some bodies to produce and the rapidity of its cellular takeover, its not the novelty of calling it delta. And again, by far the largest problems occur in UNVACCINATED people. Mask and get vaccinated. Do BOTH. But people like you were hesitant to do either, and now poor hater has given up hope, dashed against the rocks because his Trumpistas wont do either. And they also led the spread. Sorry you cant face up to it.

So Stop your whining ya damn Sandinistan fruit cake.

btw, look on a map. Chile is a very longitudinally oriented country. And ALL of it is SOUTH of the equator. unless they own some little island i am not familiar with...

:lmao

SnakeBoy
09-02-2021, 03:56 PM
I'm an independent. I always carefully listen to and consider all points of view before voting straight republican.

hater
09-02-2021, 04:00 PM
:lmao :lol :lol :lmao :lmao :lol :lol :lmao :lmao :lol :lol :lmao :lmao :lol :lol :lmao :lmao :lol :lol :lmao

Most vaxinated country in the world :lmao

:lol most 3rd boosted country in the planet :lmao



https://twitter.com/LennyOVinci/status/1433534458532040704?s=19



:lmao play stupid games

ChumpDumper
09-02-2021, 04:04 PM
:lmao :lol :lol :lmao :lmao :lol :lol :lmao :lmao :lol :lol :lmao :lmao :lol :lol :lmao :lmao :lol :lol :lmao

Most vaxinated country in the world :lmao

:lol most 3rd boosted country in the planet :lmao



https://twitter.com/LennyOVinci/status/1433534458532040704?s=19



:lmao play stupid gamesWhat stupid game did they play?

hater
09-02-2021, 04:05 PM
:lmao cant make this shit up :lmao

https://twitter.com/andyoval/status/1433488681336193026?s=19

Blake
09-02-2021, 04:41 PM
Similar raw death totals is not a similar "rate." Rate is percentage.

If Independents are a larger % of the population than Republicans, their raw death totals could still be near or higher total Republican deaths even with a higher death rate for Republicans.



No he doesn't. That's a breakdown of the affiliations of all unvaccinated people. It's supposed to add to 100%.



Math is not your strong suit. You should probably avoid these types of discussions.

:lol

SnakeBoy
09-02-2021, 04:44 PM
:lmao cant make this shit up :lmao

https://twitter.com/andyoval/status/1433488681336193026?s=19

They banned US traveler's too :lol

SnakeBoy
09-02-2021, 04:58 PM
1433019248733921286

hater
09-02-2021, 05:30 PM
They banned US traveler's too :lol

:lol Biden

hater
09-02-2021, 06:59 PM
https://twitter.com/drsimonegold/status/1433579996589670425?s=19

spurraider21
09-02-2021, 07:04 PM
https://twitter.com/drsimonegold/status/1433579996589670425?s=19
rip

https://twitter.com/search?q=hydroxychloroquine%20(from%3Adrsimonegold )&src=typed_query

ChumpDumper
09-02-2021, 07:09 PM
rip

https://twitter.com/search?q=hydroxychloroquine%20(from%3Adrsimonegold )&src=typed_query:lmao

Blake
09-02-2021, 07:13 PM
rip

https://twitter.com/search?q=hydroxychloroquine%20(from%3Adrsimonegold )&src=typed_query

Lol. guyholdinghandswithhcqspinningheadtolookativerectu m.jpg

hater
09-02-2021, 07:20 PM
Oops

https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1432443791823327237?s=19

hater
09-02-2021, 07:21 PM
:lmao

https://twitter.com/Jasper68/status/1432470158065471496?s=19

DarrinS
09-02-2021, 07:26 PM
Oops

https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1432443791823327237?s=19


Probably detective immune system

hater
09-02-2021, 08:47 PM
:lmao Falsuchi :lmao

Never ending boosters are here :lmao

https://twitter.com/NewsHour/status/1433550554970697728?s=19

hater
09-02-2021, 08:48 PM
:lmao called it

https://twitter.com/tryinghard1234/status/1433605660311269380?s=19

hater
09-02-2021, 08:58 PM
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1433546208426012674?s=19


Fuck :pctoss. Its official

Mu variant is going to kick our fucking ass :pctoss :pctoss

DMC
09-02-2021, 09:07 PM
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1433546208426012674?s=19


Fuck :pctoss. Its official

Mu variant is going to kick our fucking ass :pctoss :pctoss

Irony of obese Americans killed by Mooo

hater
09-02-2021, 10:10 PM
:lmao called it boosters will be not every 12 months not every 6 months but every 4 months :lmao

Also Pfizer still doesnt require all their employees to be vaccinated :lol they can opt for bi weekly tests :lol

https://twitter.com/Newdaydwned/status/1433605111574585352?s=19

SnakeBoy
09-02-2021, 10:53 PM
I hadn't check recently, Joe Biden consistently racking up 1000 bodies per day now.

and it's not even winter yet.

DMC
09-02-2021, 11:05 PM
I hadn't check recently, Joe Biden consistently racking up 1000 bodies per day now.

and it's not even winter yet.

No one is counting now. Suddenly it's not a numbers thing.

ElNono
09-03-2021, 01:34 AM
No one is counting now. Suddenly it's not a numbers thing.

Hey, talk to Dale. He started the count to show off how this thing was going to cause less deaths than what Obama had on his administration, and it obviously backfired mightily...

Winehole23
09-03-2021, 01:40 AM
No one is counting now. Suddenly it's not a numbers thing.I posted there one week ago:

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284348&page=279&p=10589999&viewfull=1#post10589999

Winehole23
09-03-2021, 10:55 AM
kIdS dOn'T gEt CoViD

1433527650576961543

spurraider21
09-03-2021, 10:56 AM
Fuck :pctoss. Its official

Mu variant is going to kick our fucking ass :pctoss :pctoss
who cares. everyone dies anyway

hater
09-03-2021, 11:01 AM
kIdS dOn'T gEt CoViD


nobody said that

now do deaths.

nevermind I will :lol

144 0-4 kids died total
326 5-18 kids died total

compared to 633,000 carcasses in other age grounps

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-Focus-on-Ages-0-18-Yea/nr4s-juj3/data

Winehole23
09-03-2021, 11:16 AM
death isn't the only relevant statistic.

kids will spread COVID to their families and loved ones. many will end up with chronic disabilities.

hater
09-03-2021, 11:17 AM
death isn't the only relevant statistic.

kids will spread COVID to their families and loved ones. many will end up with chronic disabilities.

vaccinated also spread COVID to their families and loved ones.

agree we have to concentrate on protecting old and sick. :tu

hater
09-03-2021, 11:18 AM
many will end up with chronic disabilities.

kids? can you post evidence of this? how many are disabled? sounds interesting

Blake
09-03-2021, 12:56 PM
vaccinated also spread COVID to their families and loved ones.

agree we have to concentrate on protecting old and sick. :tu

You're jumping around all over the place :lol

Thread
09-03-2021, 01:00 PM
Hey, talk to Dale. He started the count to show off how this thing was going to cause less deaths than what Obama had on his administration, and it obviously backfired mightily...

I'm totin' like Billy-be-jiggered.

hater
09-03-2021, 01:25 PM
RIP Australia

https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/status/1433743651805540360?s=20

https://twitter.com/SababaUSA/status/1433829925295960068?s=20

wonder if New Zealand will follow suit w this. :pctoss that was my fallback country :pctoss

Blake
09-03-2021, 01:48 PM
So it's an option to being in a 14 day dorm quarantine. Neat

hater
09-03-2021, 03:00 PM
Damn

Double vaxed De La Hoya dont look too good

https://twitter.com/OscarDeLaHoya/status/1433857153433944069?s=19

boutons_deux
09-03-2021, 04:28 PM
bus drivers don't want to drive a bus full of infected school kids

Axios email --

Schools are getting desperate — and creative — in tackling a nationwide bus driver shortage, Axios' Neal Rothschild reports.


A charter school in Wilmington, Delaware, is offering (https://link.axios.com/click/24947555.342814/aHR0cHM6Ly9hcG5ld3MuY29tL2FydGljbGUvY29yb25hdmlydX MtcGFuZGVtaWMtc2Nob29scy1idXMtZHJpdmVycy0xNjhlMWU4 NWEzMjljNzQxNTljOWYwNmEwNWQxNjExZD91dG1fc291cmNlPW 5ld3NsZXR0ZXImdXRtX21lZGl1bT1lbWFpbCZ1dG1fY2FtcGFp Z249bmV3c2xldHRlcl9heGlvc3BtJnN0cmVhbT10b3A/6004bc4704300c1ae269be66B87446963) parents $700 to get their kids to and from school for the year.
A poll (https://link.axios.com/click/24947555.342814/aHR0cHM6Ly9zMy11cy13ZXN0LTIuYW1hem9uYXdzLmNvbS9uc3 RhLzcwOTY2LzIwMjEtMDgtMzEtUFItM04tRHJpdmVyLVNob3J0 YWdlLVN1cnZleS0yMDIxLTA4LTI3LUZJTkFMLnBkZj91dG1fc2 91cmNlPW5ld3NsZXR0ZXImdXRtX21lZGl1bT1lbWFpbCZ1dG1f Y2FtcGFpZ249bmV3c2xldHRlcl9heGlvc3BtJnN0cmVhbT10b3 A/6004bc4704300c1ae269be66B080761bc) released by several school trade associations this week shows the shortage is the No. 1 problem for 65% of school transportation administrators.

51% call the situation "severe" or "desperate." The school district in Rochester, New York, says (https://link.axios.com/click/24947555.342814/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud2hlYy5jb20vcm9jaGVzdGVyLW5ldy15b3 JrLW5ld3MvcmNzZC1jb25zaWRlcmluZy1hbGwtb3B0aW9ucy1h cy1kaXN0cmljdC1kZWFscy13aXRoLXNpZ25pZmljYW50LWJ1cy 1kcml2ZXItc2hvcnRhZ2UtLzYyMjQ5OTUvP3V0bV9zb3VyY2U9 bmV3c2xldHRlciZ1dG1fbWVkaXVtPWVtYWlsJnV0bV9jYW1wYW lnbj1uZXdzbGV0dGVyX2F4aW9zcG0mc3RyZWFtPXRvcA/6004bc4704300c1ae269be66B04d7f13a) "all options are being considered."


What's going on: The Great Resignation (https://link.axios.com/click/24947555.342814/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYXhpb3MuY29tL3Jlc2lnbmF0aW9ucy1jb2 1wYW5pZXMtZTI3OWZjZmMtYzhlNy00OTU1LThhOWItNDc1NjI0 OTBlZTU1Lmh0bWw_dXRtX3NvdXJjZT1uZXdzbGV0dGVyJnV0bV 9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPW5ld3NsZXR0ZXJf YXhpb3NwbSZzdHJlYW09dG9w/6004bc4704300c1ae269be66Ba12d876a) sweeping the country is compounded by an aged busing workforce.


Half of bus drivers are 65+ and so are more vulnerable to COVID-19, Joanna McFarland, CEO of school ride-service company HopSkipDrive, told AP (https://link.axios.com/click/24947555.342814/aHR0cHM6Ly9hcG5ld3MuY29tL2FydGljbGUvY29yb25hdmlydX MtcGFuZGVtaWMtc2Nob29scy1idXMtZHJpdmVycy0xNjhlMWU4 NWEzMjljNzQxNTljOWYwNmEwNWQxNjExZD91dG1fc291cmNlPW 5ld3NsZXR0ZXImdXRtX21lZGl1bT1lbWFpbCZ1dG1fY2FtcGFp Z249bmV3c2xldHRlcl9heGlvc3BtJnN0cmVhbT10b3A/6004bc4704300c1ae269be66C87446963).
A Montana school district offered $4,000 bonuses and invited residents to test-drive buses.
Pittsburgh Public Schools' driver shortage delayed the return to classrooms by two weeks, The Washington Post reports (https://link.axios.com/click/24947555.342814/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud2FzaGluZ3RvbnBvc3QuY29tL2J1c2luZX NzLzIwMjEvMDgvMTYvc2Nob29sLXNob3J0YWdlcy1idXMtZHJp dmVycy1jb3Vuc2Vsb3JzLWNvbXB1dGVyLz91dG1fc291cmNlPW 5ld3NsZXR0ZXImdXRtX21lZGl1bT1lbWFpbCZ1dG1fY2FtcGFp Z249bmV3c2xldHRlcl9heGlvc3BtJnN0cmVhbT10b3A/6004bc4704300c1ae269be66B9ba4a0dc).




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I figure Uber/Lyft will continue to have driver shortages, since a lot of drivers were/are retired trying to complement their retirement pay

DMC
09-03-2021, 05:44 PM
I posted there one week ago:

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284348&page=279&p=10589999&viewfull=1#post10589999

Like I said.

boutons_deux
09-03-2021, 07:29 PM
shitbag Abbutt's shitbag vigilantes enforcing is mask-mandate ban
(https://www.rawstory.com/anti-mask-protest-2654898815/)
(https://www.rawstory.com/anti-mask-protest-2654898815/)San Antonio elementary school forced to call the cops after anti-maskers harass their students

the dozens of anti-maskers on Friday descended upon Bennie L. Cole Elementary School to protest the school's decision to force both students and faculty to wear masks while in class.

Local police were eventually called to intervene, and they successfully got the crowds to disperse

without making any arrests. :lol Of course not, cops are sadistic fascists.

Far West lawless San Antonio of Geronimo Village

koriwhat
09-03-2021, 07:37 PM
shitbag Abbutt's shitbag vigilantes enforcing is mask-mandate ban
(https://www.rawstory.com/anti-mask-protest-2654898815/)
(https://www.rawstory.com/anti-mask-protest-2654898815/)San Antonio elementary school forced to call the cops after anti-maskers harass their students

the dozens of anti-maskers on Friday descended upon Bennie L. Cole Elementary School to protest the school's decision to force both students and faculty to wear masks while in class.

Local police were eventually called to intervene, and they successfully got the crowds to disperse

without making any arrests. :lol Of course not, cops are sadistic fascists.

Far West lawless San Antonio of Geronimo Village

Find a padded room already you fucking loon!

boutons_deux
09-03-2021, 07:46 PM
15 Miami-Dade school staffers die of COVID in 10 days

https://www.rawstory.com/florida-school-staff-deaths

boutons_deux
09-03-2021, 07:57 PM
University of Dallas cancels classes

https://www.fox4news.com/news/university-of-dallas-pauses-in-person-classes-due-to-covid-19-cases

koriwhat
09-03-2021, 08:00 PM
15 Miami-Dade school staffers die of COVID in 10 days

https://www.rawstory.com/florida-school-staff-deaths

Sucks but everyone go to that article and then search the name supplied of 1/15 who died. Comorbidities? Indeed! I wonder about the other 14 tbh.

hater
09-04-2021, 08:31 AM
https://twitter.com/RanIsraeli/status/1433834613311475713?s=19

Ef-man
09-04-2021, 09:16 AM
Did ducks move? This AZ MAGAtard sure acted like him.

An Arizona father who stormed into a school with zip-tie handcuffs after the principal told his kid to wear a mask has been arrested.

Rishi Rambaran, 40, stormed into Principal Diane Vargo's office on Thursday with zip-tie handcuffs, according to a since-removed Instagram video. He and two friends accompanying him claimed the school broke the law when administrative officials told his kid to wear a mask and quarantine after potential exposure to COVID-19.

Kelly Walker, one of the men who backed up Rambaran, shared a video to Instagram that appeared to show him driving to the school.

"I'm headed to Mesquite Elementary School right now, where a friend just notified me and some others that his son was indiscriminately taken to the office to be quarantined because supposedly someone had decided he but not other kids in this classroom were exposed to COVID," he said.

"And they shoved a mask on his face, wouldn't let him call his parents, and now his dad is there," he continued. "The school is blatantly breaking the law, blatantly going against the will of the people. I think this community has expressed that they're not going to have this kind of bullying of our kids, these kinds of scare tactics."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/an-arizona-father-who-stormed-into-a-school-with-zip-tie-handcuffs-after-the-principal-told-his-kid-to-wear-a-mask-has-been-arrested/ar-AAO607r?ocid=msedgntp

hater
09-04-2021, 09:37 AM
https://twitter.com/RanIsraeli/status/1433834613311475713?s=19

Damn at least 50% of August Israeli deaths are vaxed


What happened to vaccine prevents deaths?????

Winehole23
09-04-2021, 09:46 AM
hater rooting for vaccine escape so he can be right

hater
09-04-2021, 09:47 AM
hater rooting for vaccine escape so he can be right

So undont have an answer for my question? You dont find it strange that the vaccine seems is not protecting as touted??

ChumpDumper
09-04-2021, 10:45 AM
Damn at least 50% of August Israeli deaths are vaxed


What happened to vaccine prevents deaths?????The unvaxxed are dying at ~5-6 times the rate of the vaccinated according to your numbers posted compared to the overall vaccinated and unvaccinated 60+ populations in Israel.

You just proved vaccines prevent deaths.:tu

DarrinS
09-04-2021, 11:06 AM
The unvaxxed are dying at ~5-6 times the rate of the vaccinated according to your numbers posted compared to the overall vaccinated and unvaccinated 60+ populations in Israel.

You just proved vaccines prevent deaths.:tu


Denominator should be number infected

ChumpDumper
09-04-2021, 11:08 AM
Denominator should be number infectedNope.

You're free to run your own equation to prove your non-point.

You will not.

hater
09-04-2021, 11:13 AM
Denominator should be number infected

Yup

hater
09-04-2021, 11:14 AM
Damn at least 50% of August Israeli deaths are vaxed


What happened to vaccine prevents deaths?????

Crickets

ChumpDumper
09-04-2021, 11:23 AM
YupNope.

You're free to run your own equation to prove vaccines don't work.

You will fold..



Crickets
Let's make it really simple for you.

You have 100 old Israelis.

90 are vaccinated.

10 are not.

3 of the vaccinated group die.

2 of the unvaccinated group die.

More vaccinated old Israelis died so vaccines don't work, right?

20% of the unvaccinated died.

3% of the vaccinated died.

So vaccines don't work, right?

DMC
09-04-2021, 11:30 AM
So undont have an answer for my question? You dont find it strange that the vaccine seems is not protecting as touted??

WH will spend 6 months calling you and idiot for not taking the vaccine then call you a sadist for being right.

ChumpDumper
09-04-2021, 11:33 AM
WH will spend 6 months calling you and idiot for not taking the vaccine then call you a sadist for being right.
:lol hater is fully vaccinated you idiot.

Winehole23
09-04-2021, 11:35 AM
lol grudgeposting

Winehole23
09-04-2021, 11:53 AM
more mortuary trailers? you bet.

masks and mitigation? hell no, why do you hate freedom?



Five mortuary trailers were dispatched to San Antonio to assist hospitals across the state that had run out of room. San Antonio Mayor Ron Nirenberg said the forethought on deaths should have been used to stem the spread.


“The fact is, the state is planning that more people are going to die of COVID. So much so that they anticipate local hospitals across the state are not going to be able to handle the amount of death they are going to see,” said Nirenberg.


Eight counties across the state are using refrigerated trucks to store the bodies of the dead. Bell County which includes Temple, Texas, has requested a second FEMA trailer with an extra storage capacity of 50 bodies. Several smaller trailers have been donated by the state funeral directors association.
https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/politics/2021/09/03/407791/doctors-say-texas-leaders-failed-to-stop-covid-19-from-spreading/

ChumpDumper
09-04-2021, 11:55 AM
more mortuary trailers? you bet.

masks and mitigation? hell no, why do you hate freedom?


https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/politics/2021/09/03/407791/doctors-say-texas-leaders-failed-to-stop-covid-19-from-spreading/

This is fine.

Winehole23
09-04-2021, 12:06 PM
This is fine.We'll probably just get a different Republican governor, but Greg Abbott's horrible pandemic policies could wreck Greg Abbott.

1433563177002799109

Winehole23
09-04-2021, 12:07 PM
Biden too, for that matter


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-YqIsnXMAIO5vG?format=jpg&name=small