Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[ElNono]

^ gossip

[Winehole23]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p843x403/130567663_10222262505684307_7232955270386745847_n. jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=ctYWB2-9MTEAX_G5iiv&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&tp=6&oh=57657739290b46047a2f62e7a842f232&oe=5FF5DCDFIt's pure partisan hype to cite real daily death tolls.

[boutons_deux]

It's pure partisan hype to cite real daily death tolls.

it's apolitical facts.

[Winehole23]

it's apolitical facts.plz check yr sarcasm detector, it, may need calibration.

[ChumpDumper]

the Alberta data reveals that 77.1% of people who died of COVID-19 did so while grappling with 3 or more underlying conditions. The percentage of people who have died with zero underlying conditions is 2%, and that tally includes people in their 90s.So over 30% didn't have them?

Wow.

[DarrinS]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p843x403/130567663_10222262505684307_7232955270386745847_n. jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=ctYWB2-9MTEAX_G5iiv&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&tp=6&oh=57657739290b46047a2f62e7a842f232&oe=5FF5DCDF


Were heart disease and cancer ignored?

[Winehole23]

Were heart disease and cancer ignored?COVID-19 will be the number three cause of death in the US this year -- despite there being no attributed deaths before ~March.

You like to minimize COVID-19 for some reason, what is that reason? If Biden were available to blame it on would you dismiss it just the same?

[Winehole23]

(N.B., by March 2021, the one year US COVID-19 mortality will approximately equal or exceed the US death toll in WWII.)

[DarrinS]

COVID-19 will be the number three cause of death in the US this year -- despite there being no attributed deaths before ~March.

You like to minimize -19 for some reason, what is that reason? If Biden were available to blame it on would you dismiss it just the same?

You like to maximize it.

I know I threw out heart disease and cancer, which aren't comparable. But you guys compare it to natural disasters and terrorists attacks -- also not comparable.

By the way, diseases are not racist.

[DarrinS]

(N.B., by March 2021, the one year US COVID-19 mortality will approximately equal or exceed the US death toll in WWII.)

What was the population during WWII?

[Winehole23]

You like to maximize it.Give me one example.

[Winehole23]

What was the population during WWII?How much have medical science and sanitation advanced since then?

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Karrin is still a cunt

[Winehole23]

(presumably, not at all in 80 years)

[Winehole23]

By the way, diseases are not racist.By the way, policy sure can be, institutions run by human beings too.

[DarrinS]

How much have medical science and sanitation advanced since then?

A ton. That's why there's already a vaccine.

Don't need it though, if you've already had covid.

[Winehole23]

A ton. That's why there's already a vaccine.
Don't need it though, if you've already had covid.How do you know that? You don't believe the reports of reinfection?

FWIW, a vaccine doesn't revive the 100s of 1000s who already died and will die in the US.

That was a policy choice.

[DarrinS]

How do you know that? You don't believe reports of reinfection?

I believe the reports. What's the percentage, world wide? Exceptionally rare.

If you understand how these mRNA vaccines work, they make the body produce the same immune response a covid+ person would naturally produce.

[Winehole23]

I believe the reports. What's the percentage, world wide? Exceptionally rare.

If you understand how these mRNA vaccines work, they make the body produce the same immune response a covid+ person would naturally produce.It'll take awhile to distribute and administer vaccines.

Between now and then, there will be 100s of 1000s more US COVID deaths.

That's a policy choice too.

[ChumpDumper]

I believe the reports. What's the percentage, world wide? Exceptionally rare.

If you understand how these mRNA vaccines work, they make the body produce the same immune response a covid+ person would naturally produce.condescending cunt

[Winehole23]

condescending cunt
as long as 100s of 1000s of avoidable deaths don't happen in my zip code, meh.

[Winehole23]

Republicans demanded Obama be impeached for two Ebola deaths. Investigated HRC half a dozen times over six years for four US deaths in Libya.

But half a million avoidable deaths in a year from an infectious disease?

Meh.

[Trainwreck2100]

Republicans demanded Obama be impeached for two Ebola deaths. Investigated HRC half a dozen times over six years for four US deaths in Libya.

But half a million avoidable deaths in a year from an infectious disease?

Meh.

they aren't all avoidable, a vast majority are avoidable

[DarrinS]

It'll take awhile to distribute and administer vaccines.

Between now and then, there will be 100s of 1000s more US COVID deaths.

That's a policy choice too.


It is what it is. I'll gladly forgo my vaccine to someone who needs it. I'm last on the schedule anyway.

[DarrinS]

Republicans demanded Obama be impeached for two Ebola deaths. Investigated HRC half a dozen times over six years for four US deaths in Libya.

But half a million avoidable deaths in a year from an infectious disease?

Meh.


If you have 2nd most per capita deaths, you get an Emmy.

[Winehole23]

they aren't all avoidable, a vast majority are avoidable500,000 US deaths by March is conservative, I think.

But I agree. It's better to say mostly avoidable. :tu

[Winehole23]

If you have 2nd most per capita deaths, you get an Emmy.Yes, and if you have the most, you lose the election for president.

Great power, great responsibilty, yadda yadda yadda.

Trump could have been one of the greats if he pretended to care and tried to save the people from COVID-19 halfway competently, but he couldn't do that could he? Instead he treated COVID -19 as a political adversary rather than a public health threat.

[DarrinS]

500,000 US deaths by March is conservative, I think.

But I agree. It's better to say mostly avoidable. :tu

Won't catch heart disease

[DarrinS]

Yes, and if you have the most, you lose the election for president.

I know. He *lost

[Winehole23]

Won't catch heart diseaseFalse. COVID-19 can and does result in heart damage. As i recall there were a few NCAA football players who ended up with COVID related myocarditis and skipped the season. Not that you give a fuck about COVID related disability, only death seems to count in your book.

It's a vascular disease too, weren't you aware?

[ChumpDumper]

I know. He *lostconspiracy cunt

[DarrinS]

False. COVID-19 can and does result in heart damage. As i recall there were a few NCAA football players who ended up with COVID related myocarditis and skipped the season. Not that you give a fuck about COVID related disability, only death seems to count in your book.

It's a vascular disease too, weren't you aware?


I lost appetite for a couple of days and had the squirts. I'm 51 and smoke a pack or two per day. Maybe I'm just lucky.

[Winehole23]

I lost appetite for a couple of days and had the squirts. I'm 51 and smoke a pack or two per day. Maybe I'm just lucky.You are lucky.

Generalizing from your case isn't science. It isn't even common sense..

Heuristically (https://www.etymonline.com/word/heuristic), it's bullshit.

[DarrinS]

You are lucky.

Generalizing from your case isn't science. It isn't even common sense..

Heuristically, it's bullshit.


Fine. Happy to report that my family is immune and out of the transmission chain.

[Winehole23]

Fine. Happy to report that my family is immune and out of the transmission chain.Glad to hear it. Your family isn't the whole world.

[DarrinS]

As soon as I learned that obesity was a major risk factor, I knew we would have mass mortality.

[Winehole23]

As soon as I learned that obesity was a major risk factor, I knew we would have mass mortality.Blaming it on the fat. I hope you get emphysema, you earned it.

[ChumpDumper]

Fine. Happy to report that my family is immune and out of the transmission chain.

filthy family

[DarrinS]

Blaming it on the fat. I hope you get emphysema, you earned it.

If I die of that, I agree. I dropped 35 lbs three years ago.

Its easy. Stop eating so much.

[DarrinS]

I wonder if CumDumpster thinks he's NOT on ignore? Lol

[ChumpDumper]

I'm counting on it. Makes it funnier, cunt.

[Winehole23]

If I die of that, I agree. I dropped 35 lbs three years ago.

Its easy. Stop eating so much.Yeah, an infectious respiratory disease is stopped in its tracks by calorie restriction. :rolleyes

[DarrinS]

Yeah, an infectious respiratory disease is stopped in its tracks by calorie restriction. :rolleyes

May stop it from killing you

[DarrinS]

Yeah, an infectious respiratory disease is stopped in its tracks by calorie restriction. :rolleyes


By the way, NOTHING stops a highly infectious respiratory disease in its tracks.

[Winehole23]

By the way, NOTHING stops a highly infectious respiratory disease in its tracks.No, but mitigation works and containment is possible, if pursued diligently from the outset.

Australia, Canada, South Korea, Taiwan, New Zealand, etc..

[Winehole23]

Yes, and fucking China and Vietnam too, even if they understated cases and mortality by an order of magnitude.

I wouldn't live there, but they're handling their shit, unlike us.

[Winehole23]

May stop it from killing youI'm not fat lol.

[Winehole23]

If I die of that, I agree. I dropped 35 lbs three years ago.Suffering doesn't count, even if it happens to you?

Smoking isn't a contagious disease. Nevertheless, I hope you don't get emphysema. I was just pissed off at your glibness.

(I saw both beloved grandmothers waste away from that. It was more or less horrible.)

[Winehole23]

Both grandfathers, smoking related heart disease. One died a few months before I was born, the other when I was three.


My grandmothers lasted another thirty years. They smoked and drank too.

[ElNono]

Florida police raid home of fired data scientist who built state's COVID-19 dashboard

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Florida police brandishing firearms raided the home of Rebekah Jones, the former state Department of Health employee who built the state's much-praised COVID-19 dashboard before being fired over what she said was refusing to manipulate data.

"They pointed a gun in my face. They pointed guns at my kids," Jones tweeted shortly before 5 p.m. Monday.

Jones — who launched her own COVID-19 dashboard after she was fired, and used crowdsourcing to raise money to support it — said agents knocked on her door around 8:30 a.m., took all her "hardware and tech" after showing her a warrant based on a complaint filed by the Florida Department of Health.

A video accompanying the post shows Florida Department of Law Enforcementagents in vests entering the house with guns drawn, asking who else was in the house. She said her husband and two children were inside as they escorted her out of the house.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/12/07/florida-police-raid-rebekah-jones-scientist-covid-dashboard/6483329002/

---

We'll see how this develops, but not a good look so far for DeathSantis...

[Winehole23]

Florida police raid home of fired data scientist who built state's COVID-19 dashboard

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Florida police brandishing firearms raided the home of Rebekah Jones, the former state Department of Health employee who built the state's much-praised COVID-19 dashboard before being fired over what she said was refusing to manipulate data.

"They pointed a gun in my face. They pointed guns at my kids," Jones tweeted shortly before 5 p.m. Monday.

Jones — who launched her own COVID-19 dashboard after she was fired, and used crowdsourcing to raise money to support it — said agents knocked on her door around 8:30 a.m., took all her "hardware and tech" after showing her a warrant based on a complaint filed by the Florida Department of Health.

A video accompanying the post shows Florida Department of Law Enforcementagents in vests entering the house with guns drawn, asking who else was in the house. She said her husband and two children were inside as they escorted her out of the house.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/12/07/florida-police-raid-rebekah-jones-scientist-covid-dashboard/6483329002/

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We'll see how this develops, but not a good look so far for DeathSantis...Looks like a vendetta to me. Ms. Jones showed up the state of Florida by building a better COVID dashboard when Florida was --is -- trying to hide the ball.

[DarrinS]

Florida police raid home of fired data scientist who built state's COVID-19 dashboard

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Florida police brandishing firearms raided the home of Rebekah Jones, the former state Department of Health employee who built the state's much-praised COVID-19 dashboard before being fired over what she said was refusing to manipulate data.

"They pointed a gun in my face. They pointed guns at my kids," Jones tweeted shortly before 5 p.m. Monday.

Jones — who launched her own COVID-19 dashboard after she was fired, and used crowdsourcing to raise money to support it — said agents knocked on her door around 8:30 a.m., took all her "hardware and tech" after showing her a warrant based on a complaint filed by the Florida Department of Health.

A video accompanying the post shows Florida Department of Law Enforcementagents in vests entering the house with guns drawn, asking who else was in the house. She said her husband and two children were inside as they escorted her out of the house.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/12/07/florida-police-raid-rebekah-jones-scientist-covid-dashboard/6483329002/

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We'll see how this develops, but not a good look so far for DeathSantis...


No thought to the "data scientist" doing something wrong?

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, she's one of those pedophile baby eaters your side is always talking about.

[Winehole23]

No thought to the "data scientist" doing something wrong?What did she do wrong beside providing better data than Florida?

[hater]

Lol state police

Wouldnt the feds supposed to handle this shit? :lol

[boutons_deux]

What did she do wrong beside providing better data than Florida?

Her political "crime" of free speech being punished with most probably FAKE legal crime.

Even if the charges are dropped in some months, the fascist objective is to down all opposition, to shut her up.

[MultiTroll]

If I die of that, I agree. I dropped 35 lbs three years ago.

Its easy. Stop eating so much.
and visualize your goal.
https://likeitviral.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/KEVIN-JAMES.jpg
-85 lbs.

[boutons_deux]

Baker says Mass. hospitals will ‘curtail’ inpatient elective procedures amid COVID-19 spike

Governor Charlie Baker said Monday that

hospitals in Massachusetts effective Friday will temporarily stop conducting in-patient elective surgeries that can safely be put off,

amid the recent spike in coronavirus infections.

-- Boston Globe email

[ChumpDumper]

If I die of that, I agree. I dropped 35 lbs three years ago.

Its easy. Stop eating so much.And smoke like a fucking chimney.

[TimDunkem]

Imagine losing weight and taking vitamin D supplements, then pretending to be some sort of beacon of good health when you're an admitted alcoholic and chain-smoker. :lmao

[boutons_deux]

An NYT analysis of CDC data reveals that

345,000 more people (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/05/us/coronavirus-death-toll-us.html) than normal have died in the U.S. from March 15 to November 14.

The tally of excess deaths is 41% higher than the official coronavirus fatality count.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/12/04/roaming-charges-lets-get-small/

[tholdren]

Imagine losing weight and taking vitamin D supplements, then pretending to be some sort of beacon of good health when you're an admitted alcoholic and chain-smoker. :lmao

Imagine crying on the internet about having covid

[ElNono]

^ gossip

[tholdren]

^ gossip

Fla mandating ct

[Ef-man]

^ gossip

[tholdren]

Fla mandating ct

[hater]

Lol

"Any person with a history of a significant allergic reaction to a vaccine, medicine or food (such as previous history of anaphylactoid reaction or those who have been advised to carry an adrenaline autoinjector) should not receive the Pfizer BioNTech vaccine," states the new MHRA advice, PA Media reported. It said that vaccines "should only be carried out in facilities where resuscitation measures are available."

[hater]

And yet Grassley and Ghoiliani live


https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1336657150450552832?s=19

[Will Hunting]

Imagine losing weight and taking vitamin D supplements, then pretending to be some sort of beacon of good health when you're an admitted alcoholic and chain-smoker. :lmao
:lmao him smoking 1-2 packs a day. I’ll bet he’s one of those disgusting people who smells like cigarette smoke even when he’s not smoking.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/BrianCarltonVA/status/1336716270297903105?s=19

[hater]

3,000 rotting carcasses today

Not funny anymore :(

God damn can u believe we most likely will have over 3,000 deaths on christmas day? :pctoss

Thats basically a 9/11. On fuckimg christmas

[DarrinS]

Yeah, if a damn peanut might send you to the hospital, maybe be cautious of the vaccine.

[hater]

What we drinkin tonight Darrin?

[DarrinS]

What we drinkin tonight Darrin?

Watered down shitty American light beer. :lol

[phxspurfan]

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-questions-about-covid-19-and-viral-load/


Dr Michael Skinner, Reader in Virology, Imperial College London, said:

“Some comments on virus dose, load and shedding.
“Viruses are not poisons, within the cell they are self-replicating. That means an infection can start with just a small number of articles (the ‘dose’). The actual minimum number varies between different viruses and we don’t yet know what that ‘minimum infectious dose’ is for COVID-19, but we might presume it’s around a hundred virus particles.
“When that dose reaches our respiratory tract, one or two cells will be infected and will be re-programmed to produce many new viruses within 12-24 hours (for COVID-19, we don’t yet know how many or over how long). The new viruses will infect many more nearby cells (which can include cells of our immune defence system too, possibly compromising it) and the whole process goes around again, and again, and again.
“At some time quite early in infection, our ‘innate immune system’ detects there’s a virus infection and mounts an innate immune response. This is not the virus-specific, ‘acquired immune response’ with which people are generally familiar (i.e. antibodies) but rather a broad, non-specific, anti-viral response (characterised by interferon and cytokines, small proteins that have the side effect of causing many of the symptoms: fever, headaches, muscle pain). This response serves two purposes: to slow down the replication and spread of the virus, keeping us alive until the ‘acquired immune response’ kicks in (which, for a virus we haven’t seen, is about 2 to 3 weeks) and to call-up and commission the ‘acquired immune response’ which will stop and finally clear the infection, as well as laying-down immune memory to allow a faster response if we are infected again in the future (this is the basis of the expected immunity in survivors and of vaccination).
“With COVID-19, these two arms of the immune system (innate and acquired) obviously work well for 80% of the population who recover from more or less mild influenza-like illness.
“In older people, or people with immunodeficiencies, the activation of the acquired immune system may be delayed. This means that the virus can carry on replicating and spreading in the body, causing chaos and damage as it does, but there’s another consequence. Another job of the acquired immune system is to stand-down the innate immune system; until that’s done the innate immune response will keep increasing as the virus replicates and spreads. Part of the innate immune response is to cause ‘inflammation’. That is useful in containing the virus early in an infection but can result in widespread damage of uninfected tissue (we call this a ‘bystander effect’) if it becomes too large and uncontrolled, a situation named ‘cytokine storm’ when it was first seen with SARS and avian influenza H5N1. It is difficult to manage clinically, requiring intensive care and treatment and carries with it high risk of death.
“The scenarios described above describe what happens following infection with ‘normal’ doses of virus, both in those who make a recovery, those who require intensive care and those (mainly elderly and/or immunosuppressed) who might succumb. Those with other comorbidities probably succumb due to additional stress of their already compromised essential systems by virus and/or cytokine storm.
“It is unlikely that higher doses that would be acquired by being exposed to multiple infected sources would make much difference to the course of disease or the outcome. It’s hard to see how the dose would vary by more than 10 fold. (Although differences have been seen in lab animal infections with some viruses, those animals are inbred (genetically similar to respond in the same way). It’s unlikely that we’d see the differences as statistically significant in out-bred humans.)
“We must be more concerned about situations where somebody receives a massive dose of the virus (we have no data on how large that might be but bodily fluids from those infected with other viruses can contain a million, and up to a hundred million viruses per ml), particularly through inhalation.
“Unfortunately, we don’t yet know enough about the distribution of the COVID-19 virus throughout the body of the infected patients in normal, and unusual situations.
“Under such circumstances the virus receives a massive jump start, leading to a massive innate immune response, which will struggle to control the virus to allow time for acquired immunity to kick-in while at the same time leading to considerable inflammation and a cytokine storm.
“For most of us, it’s hard to see how we could receive such a high dose; it’s going to be a rare event. In the COVID-19 clinic, the purpose of PPE is to prevent such large exposures leading to high dose infection. Situations we should be concerned about are potential high dose exposure of clinical staff conducting procedures on patients who are not known to be infected. I read about a Chinese description of an early stage COVID-19 infection of the lung, which only came about because lung cancer patients (not known to be infected) had lobectemies. There have been suggestions that such situations contributed to the deaths of medics in Wuhan, who were conducting normal procedures (including some that could generate aerosols of infected fluids) before the spread and risk had been appreciated.
“Obviously, testing of patients for infection should now be a priority for any such procedures. Some of the relevant elective procedures have been postponed or scaled back (for patient and staff safety) but we can’t do the same for non-elective procedures (especially in emergency and maternity departments).”

[boutons_deux]

Does COVID-19 Really Cause Erectile Dysfunction?

Here's What To Know.

Experts explain what might be happening if the coronavirus is causing the sexual and reproductive health issue.

more reports linking erectile dysfunction to the disease.

coronavirus survivors may experience sexual and reproductive health issues (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7355084/) like ED following their illness.

Doctors and experts also say (https://www.nbcchicago.com/lx/another-reason-to-wear-a-mask-covid-19-may-cause-erectile-dysfunction/2386588/) they’ve seen patients who have struggled with the problem (https://health.clevelandclinic.org/yes-covid-19-can-cause-erectile-dysfunction-in-men/) after contracting the virus.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/does-covid-19-cause-erectile-dysfunction_l_5fcfdffdc5b6636e0928d7b3 (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/does-covid-19-cause-erectile-dysfunction_l_5fcfdffdc5b6636e0928d7b3?ncid=newslt ushpmgnews)
.

[hater]

California down to 1500 ICU beds available.

Oklahoma down to 34 :lol

Just a flu

[hater]

https://twitter.com/2020Bologna/status/1337114412499546115?s=19

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/2020Bologna/status/1337114412499546115?s=19
:tu

[SnakeBoy]

:tu

lol what's to like about stay home from midnight to 5am?

[spurraider21]

lol what's to like about stay home from midnight to 5am?
Virginia doesnt really need harsher measures, at least at this time. they have among the least cases and deaths per capita of any state. i'm good with still keeping in limited measures and adjusting as needed.

[phxspurfan]

I wasn’t allowed to say anything until today, but it's now okay for me to share that I have volunteered for the Covid-19 vaccine. The vaccine is the one that has been developed in Russia. It is in 6 different stages and I received my first dose this morning 06:20 am, and I wanted to let you all know that it is safe snd I’m ok, with иo side effects whatsoeveя, and that I feelshκι я чувю себя немного стрно и я думю, что вытл осные уши. чувству себя немго страо. Comrades.

[hater]

Virginia doesnt really need harsher measures, at least at this time. they have among the least cases and deaths per capita of any state. i'm good with still keeping in limited measures and adjusting as needed.

Instill dont get the 12am curfew

Is there a study that says infections usually happen after midn8ght?

[spurraider21]

Instill dont get the 12am curfew

Is there a study that says infections usually happen after midn8ght?
I guess they could do earlier if you wanted.

The idea being that events after midnight would be almost exclusively social. Parties, etc.

[ElNono]

Instill dont get the 12am curfew

Is there a study that says infections usually happen after midn8ght?

It's the joooooooooooooossssssssssssssssss.... NWO wants you to go to sleep early!!!!!

[hater]

I guess they could do earlier if you wanted.

The idea being that events after midnight would be almost exclusively social. Parties, etc.

Wouldnt peeps just have their parties earlier?

Anyway americans dont usually have their parties past 12am this is not latin america.

And bars and clubs are alreafy closed.

IMO its just an qrbitrary rule to appease one side without pissing off the 9ther side.

These wishy washy rules do nothing to the spike

[SnakeBoy]

These wishy washy rules do nothing to the spike

They probably help increase the spike as people can see these are bullshit rules and start thinking it's all bullshit.

[hater]

They probably help increase the spike as people can see these are bullshit rules and start thinking it's all bullshit.

Dont fully agree w the below but its exactly what u are saying

https://twitter.com/RantingNRolling/status/1337156742879342594?s=19

[hater]

Also lol cancelling new years eve

What a way to end 2020 :lol

[TimDunkem]

Also lol cancelling new years eve

What q way to end 2020 :lol
Basically THE day to party. I fully expect to see social media flooded with NYE parties.

[spurraider21]

Dont fully agree w the below but its exactly what u are saying

https://twitter.com/RantingNRolling/status/1337156742879342594?s=19
can confirm that its been fairly cold here for the last 1-2 weeks. into the 20s at night

[hater]

Lol sweden

https://twitter.com/StateTab/status/1337439534267715585?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/NiftieIndies/status/1337434422446940164?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/Deadly_Statins/status/1337427348585664513?s=19


Play stupid games


Win stupid prizes

[SnakeBoy]

I wasn’t allowed to say anything until today, but it's now okay for me to share that I have volunteered for the Covid-19 vaccine. The vaccine is the one that has been developed in Russia. It is in 6 different stages and I received my first dose this morning 06:20 am, and I wanted to let you all know that it is safe snd I’m ok, with иo side effects whatsoeveя, and that I feelshκι я чувю себя немного стрно и я думю, что вытл осные уши. чувству себя немго страо. Comrades.

Funny thing is astrazeneca is now going to test their vaccine in combination with the russian one. The russians outsmarted them by using a different viral vector for each dose so that antibodies to the viral vector wouldn't reduce the efficacy of the 2nd dose. Astrazeneca didn't even think of that problem until they screwed up and only gave a half dose to some people.

[hater]

Funny thing is astrazeneca is now going to test their vaccine in combination with the russian one. The russians outsmarted them by using a different viral vector for each dose so that antibodies to the viral vector wouldn't reduce the efficacy of the 2nd dose. Astrazeneca didn't even think of that problem until they screwed up and only gave a half dose to some people.

Yeah astrazeneca is an utter mess :lol

Asking Russia to bail them out :lol

Funny thing is if Astrazeneca hadnt screwed up by chance, they might be also applying this shitty vaccine on people :lol

[hater]

Sweden closes schools (in cities)

https://twitter.com/beatabooo/status/1335180158429499392?s=19

Apparently too many teachers sick and over 40% of recent infections were linked to schools

Play stupid games.....

[phxspurfan]

Funny thing is astrazeneca is now going to test their vaccine in combination with the russian one. The russians outsmarted them by using a different viral vector for each dose so that antibodies to the viral vector wouldn't reduce the efficacy of the 2nd dose. Astrazeneca didn't even think of that problem until they screwed up and only gave a half dose to some people.

In Soviet Russia, second dose is shot of Stoli.

[boutons_deux]

rightwingnutjobs making America ungovernable, degrading America, which pleases the oligarchy (and Pootin)

Southern California sheriffs are refusing to enforce stay-at-home orders

Gov. Gavin Newsom’s new restrictions face backlash as ICU capacity dwindles.

https://www.vox.com/2020/12/10/22167549/southern-california-gavin-newsom-sheriff-stay-at-home-order-enforcement-covid-19-coronavirus (https://www.vox.com/2020/12/10/22167549/southern-california-gavin-newsom-sheriff-stay-at-home-order-enforcement-covid-19-coronavirus)

[Winehole23]

In Soviet Russia, second dose is shot of Stoli.In Soviet Russia maybe, but Russia is asking people not to drink for five weeks after getting the Sputnik vaccine.

[DarrinS]

rightwingnutjobs making America ungovernable, degrading America, which pleases the oligarchy (and Pootin)

Southern California sheriffs are refusing to enforce stay-at-home orders

Gov. Gavin Newsom’s new restrictions face backlash as ICU capacity dwindles.

https://www.vox.com/2020/12/10/22167549/southern-california-gavin-newsom-sheriff-stay-at-home-order-enforcement-covid-19-coronavirus (https://www.vox.com/2020/12/10/22167549/southern-california-gavin-newsom-sheriff-stay-at-home-order-enforcement-covid-19-coronavirus)

Good. :tu

[boutons_deux]

From Deep in the Repug Shithole of Texas, an infinite stream of Repug shitbags


On day one, I’ll sign an executive order to require masks everywhere I can.

pic.twitter.com/ixUbTwHhPk (https://t.co/ixUbTwHhPk)

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) December 9, 2020 (https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1336686791760502785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)



Roy responded by retweeting Biden, and adding “On day one I will tell you to kiss my ass.”

On day one I will tell you to kiss my ass. #StandUpForAmerica (https://twitter.com/hashtag/StandUpForAmerica?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)https://t.co/1Yqygxcu69 (https://t.co/1Yqygxcu69)

— Chip Roy (@chiproytx) December 9, 2020 (https://twitter.com/chiproytx/status/1336773314170195968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

[Winehole23]

Gov. Cuomo, still putting corporate profit before the lives of NYers.Progressive journos still giving him shit for it

1337490120136507393

[boutons_deux]

10,000 dead / day in January?

more than the 600K dead Americans?

equaling the Spanish Flu of 1918 (about which racist Woodrow Wilson never did anything, or acknowledged)

[boutons_deux]

strong correlation between partisanship and social mobility during COVID-19 pandemic

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-12/vu-vrd121120.php

In short, Repug shitbags moved around and made the pandemic worse.

[boutons_deux]

Military-grade camera shows risks of airborne coronavirus spread


https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/12/11/coronavirus-airborne-video-infrared-spread (https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/12/11/coronavirus-airborne-video-infrared-spread/?arc404=true)

[Winehole23]

Der Spiegel article revisiting the questions of infection and transmissibility among children:

https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/new-on-the-covid-19-front-lines-children-may-be-driving-the-pandemic-after-all-a-95e4c0e7-2ea0-479b-ac27-d17f07d147a5

[SnakeBoy]

Military-grade camera shows risks of airborne coronavirus spread


https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/12/11/coronavirus-airborne-video-infrared-spread (https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/12/11/coronavirus-airborne-video-infrared-spread/?arc404=true)



I thought you didn't trust the MIC

[Winehole23]

ICU capacity reached in Mississippi. Next 2-3 months are going to be brutal.

1337926702601818112

[tholdren]

ICU capacity reached in Mississippi. Next 2-3 months are going to be brutal.

1337926702601818112

No it hasn't. Mhds.ms.gov

Gossips

[ChumpDumper]

No it hasn't. Mhds.ms.gov

Gossips:lol foldren wrong again

[tholdren]

No it hasn't. Mhds.ms.gov

Gossips

Lololl
Cryboi can't read

[Ef-man]

:lol foldren wrong again

[tholdren]

Lololl
Cryboi can't read
Masks dont work

[ChumpDumper]

Lololl
Cryboi can't readVolunteer at a COVID ward there.

No mask.

Or fold.

[ChumpDumper]

Masks dont workProve it. Go to the COVID ward with no mask and breathe in.

Or fold.

[Winehole23]

1337984608680488960

[tholdren]

1337984608680488960

Talk about exponential testing

[ChumpDumper]

Talk about exponential testing:lol you are low IQ

[tholdren]

:lol you are low IQ

I know, right. Millionz of tests a day in the US. Gotta love it.

More tests in a week for covid than for flu in 10 years. Shocking...... where is the flu btw?

[ChumpDumper]

I know, right. Millionz of tests a day in the US. Gotta love it.

More tests in a week for covid than for flu in 10 years. Shocking...... where is the flu btw?2400 deaths a day and you're crying about your being wrong.

How many days have you volunteered in a COVID ward without a mask?

[Winehole23]

indoor air flow is an important factor, this Korean study shows transmission is possible at ~20 feet with brief exposure and no direct contact with the infected person.


A total of 3 cases were identified in this outbreak, and maximum air flow velocity of 1.2 m/s was measured between the infector and infectee in a restaurant equipped with ceiling-type air conditioners. The index case was infected at a 6.5 m away from the infector and 5 minutes exposure without any direct or indirect contact. Droplet transmission can occur at a distance greater than 2 m if there is direct air flow from an infected person. Therefore, updated guidelines involving prevention, contact tracing, and quarantine for COVID-19 are required for control of this highly contagious disease.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/jkms-35-e415-g003-l.jpg

https://jkms.org/DOIx.php?id=10.3346/jkms.2020.35.e415

[tholdren]

2400 deaths a day and you're crying about your being wrong.

How many days have you volunteered in a COVID ward without a mask?

How many people die a day?

[Ef-man]

How many people die a day?

Foldren the soiliar.

[ChumpDumper]

How many people die a day?I just posted the 7 day average.

How many days have you volunteered in a COVID ward without a mask?

[tholdren]

I just posted the 7 day average.

How many days have you volunteered in a COVID ward without a mask?

So not a day.... so really... you.have.no.idea.


Typical


You hate to see it

[ChumpDumper]

So not a day.... so really... you.have.no.idea.


Typical


You hate to see it:lol you got pwned again

Typical.

I love to see it.

[Ef-man]

I just posted the 7 day average.

How many days have you volunteered in a COVID ward without a mask?

[tholdren]

So not a day.... so really... you.have.no.idea.


Typical


You hate to see it

[ChumpDumper]

:lol you got pwned again

Typical.

I love to see it.

[Ef-man]

:lol you got pwned again

Typical.

I love to see it.

[tholdren]

So not a day.... so really... you.have.no.idea.


Typical


You hate to see it

Kolooooooo

[ChumpDumper]

:lol you got pwned again

Typical.

I love to see it.

[tholdren]

Sad ChumpDumper needs a mask. Why is Florida open and have less deaths than ny? Sad

[hater]

https://twitter.com/Heerak4Congress/status/1338222483569332231?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/USATODAY/status/1337232303160918022?s=19

[Winehole23]

https://twitter.com/USATODAY/status/1337232303160918022?s=19Life is pretty cheap in the USA. We're all incipient fertilizer.

Sure sucks to live in a failed nation with a broken government.

[hater]

Damn

Europe is a dumpster fire. Germany going back to strict lockdown.

Yet... the US rate of infection is double that of Europe.

Meaning in a couple of weeks this shit is gonna explode. Strict lockdowns in the US is now a possibility. If hospitals collapse which is likely there will be no option but hard lockdown.

Hope u nigas got ur toilet paper

[tholdren]

Life is pretty cheap in the USA. We're all incipient fertilizer.

Sure sucks to live in a failed nation with a broken government.

Loloooooooo daily deaths aren't daily.

Fake news

[Winehole23]

Damn

Europe is a dumpster fire. Germany going back to strict lockdown.

Yet... the US rate of infection is double that of Europe.

Meaning in a couple of weeks this shit is gonna explode. Strict lockdowns in the US is now a possibility. If hospitals collapse which is likely there will be no option but hard lockdown.

Hope u nigas got ur toilet paperWill continue on the current course until XMAS/New Year's.

A couple weeks after that it will explode.

[tholdren]

Will continue on the current course until XMAS/New Year's.

A couple weeks after that it will explode.

Seems like what you said in April and may and June and July and August and September and October and Nov and here we are. All dead

[boutons_deux]

Boston to close museums, indoor gyms, other businesses amid COVID-19 surge; other communities to take similar steps

Mayors in some of the region’s biggest cities — including Boston, Somerville, and Newton — have agreed to implement restrictions on their economies

as COVID-19 infection rates rise rapidly in Massachusetts.

In Boston, the move will close indoor gyms, museums, and movie theaters, among other measures.

-- Boston Globe email

=================

Two clusters fuel outbreak in Medford: More than 500 positive tests since Thanksgiving (http://click.email.bostonglobe.com/?qs=7b697b5c7710e09f90cb29cdd59277583ce3859b02a82a c249e8be392111ddda5e642835857a053358990183520bab1d 687a0cdb9f619907be387d45b7719bd2)
The outbreak stemming from

Raso’s Bar & Grille, along with a second cluster traced to a large holiday gathering at a private home,

have contributed to Medford’s largest surge in infections since the spring: more than 500 new cases since Thanksgiving.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/BJPMarshall/status/1338887500748754944?s=19

[SnakeBoy]

https://twitter.com/USATODAY/status/1337232303160918022?s=19

How does it compare to influenza deaths since wwII?

[CosmicCowboy]

My 93 year old mother is planning a freaking Christmas "family get together" at her house...and I have some pretty irresponsible nieces and nephews. I already told her we weren't going. Shit like this is why it's spreading so fast after Thanksgiving.

[hater]

My 93 year old mother is planning a freaking Christmas "family get together" at her house...and I have some pretty irresponsible nieces and nephews. I already told her we weren't going. Shit like this is why it's spreading so fast after Thanksgiving.

Well its also spreading because...


Called it

https://twitter.com/Eagleresa/status/1338941527431626753?s=19

[SnakeBoy]

https://twitter.com/Heerak4Congress/status/1338222483569332231?s=19

Only ~375,000 deaths to go until herd immunity, if herd immunity actually exists (probably doesn't). Only ~675,000 deaths to go until everyone has been infected.

[Winehole23]

Only ~375,000 deaths to go until herd immunity, if herd immunity actually exists (probably doesn't). Only ~675,000 deaths to go until everyone has been infected.
How do you know that?

[SnakeBoy]

How do you know that?

325M *.003 = 975,000

Herd immunity supposedly at somewhere around 70% of that number. If there is such a thing, but there isn't imo.

.3% IFR still seems pretty close to me. Vaccines should lower that though...eventually.

There was just a statistical study saying we are probably catching about 1 out of every 8 cases with testing. So if you assume 8x confirmed cases then based on the numbers today IFR is .227% but of course deaths lag cases by 2-3 weeks. So .3% seems bout right.

[Winehole23]

325M *.003 = 975,000

Herd immunity supposedly at somewhere around 70% of that number. If there is such a thing, but there isn't imo.

.3% IFR still seems pretty close to me. Vaccines should lower that though...eventually.

There was just a statistical study saying we are probably catching about 1 out of every 8 cases with testing. So if you assume 8x confirmed cases then based on the numbers today IFR is .227% but of course deaths lag cases by 2-3 weeks. So .3% seems bout right.What are some historical examples of herd immunitity reached without vaccination?

[ElNono]

325M *.003 = 975,000

Herd immunity supposedly at somewhere around 70% of that number. If there is such a thing, but there isn't imo.

.3% IFR still seems pretty close to me. Vaccines should lower that though...eventually.

There was just a statistical study saying we are probably catching about 1 out of every 8 cases with testing. So if you assume 8x confirmed cases then based on the numbers today IFR is .227% but of course deaths lag cases by 2-3 weeks. So .3% seems bout right.

You don't even need to go to IFR...

If we're talking a 70% of the population, that's 227,500,000 - 17,099,429 that have been infected already = 210,400,571 to go. Now, it took almost a year to get to 17.1M infections, which means that it would take ~12 years at the same rate to reach the 210M remaining.

This is why herd immunity, if attainable, was always unrealistic.

[SnakeBoy]

You don't even need to go to IFR...

If we're talking a 70% of the population, that's 227,500,000 - 17,099,429 that have been infected already = 210,400,571 to go. Now, it took almost a year to get to 17.1M infections, which means that it would take ~12 years at the same rate to reach the 210M remaining.

This is why herd immunity, if attainable, was always unrealistic.

You're only counting confirmed cases. I'm estimating 8 times that, so ~135M people. Actually should be 7.1x based on https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa1780/6000389 but I just went with 8x.

You need to estimate IFR in order to guess how many people have been infected. Numbers from that study work out roughly with my guess of .3% ifr.

[SnakeBoy]

What are some historical examples of herd immunitity reached without vaccination?

I didn't say there were. What I was saying is that herd immunity probably doesn't exist with or without a vaccine. The concept is based on a closed system.

[Winehole23]

I didn't say there were. What I was saying is that herd immunity probably doesn't exist with or without a vaccine. The concept is based on a closed system.Thanks for clarifying what you mean. Many posters construe that in the sense given in the Barrington Declaration, namely, acquisition of herd immunity without vaccination.

[SnakeBoy]

Thanks for clarifying what you mean. Many posters construe that in the sense given in the Barrington Declaration, namely, acquisition of herd immunity without vaccination.

My basic premise from February has been that this is the 5th endemic coronavirus, everyone (100%) will get infected eventually. Some have thought I meant the ridiculous idea of the Barrington Declaration at times but I always said a "let her rip" plan was a bad plan. It was equally true that locking down until it goes away was not a realistic idea.

Now that we have a vaccine, hard lockdowns make sense until those who are willing have a chance to get vaccinated. I never believed a vaccine this quick was possible, don't think anyone really did.

[ElNono]

You're only counting confirmed cases. I'm estimating 8 times that, so ~135M people. Actually should be 7.1x based on https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa1780/6000389 but I just went with 8x.

You need to estimate IFR in order to guess how many people have been infected. Numbers from that study work out roughly with my guess of .3% ifr.

The actual estimate in that paper is nowhere near close to 135M...

52.9 million total infections may have occurred in the U.S. population from February 27–September 30, 2020

So I don't know where they got that multiplier...

[hater]

My basic premise from February has been that this is the 5th endemic coronavirus, everyone (100%) will get infected eventually. Some have thought I meant the ridiculous idea of the Barrington Declaration at times but I always said a "let her rip" plan was a bad plan. It was equally true that locking down until it goes away was not a realistic idea.

Now that we have a vaccine, hard lockdowns make sense until those who are willing have a chance to get vaccinated. I never believed a vaccine this quick was possible, don't think anyone really did.

Ag4ee until the vaccine talk. We dont know if any vaccine works. No need to vaccinate unless you are sick or old. Wait until the data comes out for the first millions vaccinated.

Do not vaccinate healthy young ppl.

Lockdowns will continue for the foreseeable future.

Oh and I believe early hard lockdown would have helped. Regional shutdowns as well. See china, australia, new zealand, etc.

[Winehole23]

Do not vaccinate healthy young ppl.At some point I think you have to.

[SnakeBoy]

The actual estimate in that paper is nowhere near close to 135M...

52.9 million total infections may have occurred in the U.S. population from February 27–September 30, 2020

So I don't know where they got that multiplier...

52 million cases would put the IFR around .5 -.6% which is what the cdc says. My deaths to go count has always been the optimistic best case scenario of .3% IFR.

edit I think I may have started with .1% ifr until that was clearly too low

[SnakeBoy]

Ag4ee until the vaccine talk. We dont know if any vaccine works. No need to vaccinate unless you are sick or old. Wait until the data comes out for the first millions vaccinated.

Do not vaccinate healthy young ppl.

Lockdowns will continue for the foreseeable future.

Oh and I believe early hard lockdown would have helped. Regional shutdowns as well. See china, australia, new zealand, etc.

Vaccinate those willing to take it, then open up and let the bodies fall where they may.

[hater]

At some point I think you have to.

Agree. 1 year of data wont be ideal but would be something. I also confident mutations and new treatments would make this virus less lethal.

[ElNono]

Vaccinate those willing to take it, then open up and let the bodies fall where they may.

I'm fine with this, tbh... provided that access to the vaccine is good.

[DarrinS]

I'm fine with this, tbh... provided that access to the vaccine is good.

Lol, I'm pretty much last in line. Even if I thought I needed it.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html

[DarrinS]

Lol, I'm pretty much last in line. Even if I thought I needed it.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html


I'm behind prisoners and homeless, lol.

[DarrinS]

:lol




Based on your risk profile, we believe you’re in line behind 268.7 million people across the United States.

When it comes to Texas, we think you’re behind 24.4 million others who are at higher risk in your state.

And in Bexar County, you’re behind 1.7 million others.

[ElNono]

Lol, I'm pretty much last in line. Even if I thought I needed it.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html

Me too. There's always medical tourism though.

[DarrinS]

Me too. There's always medical tourism though.


But, at least I can observe what happens to people ahead of me.

[ElNono]

But, at least I can observe what happens to people ahead of me.

I mean, I don't mind growing tentacles, tbh

[hater]

I mean, I don't mind growing tentacles, tbh

You wont

But you might make Bing your default search engine

[DarrinS]

I mean, I don't mind growing tentacles, tbh

Obviously, I don't think any weird shit like that will happen, but we may discover side affects we don't currently know about.

[ElNono]

You wont

But you might make Bing your default search engine

Damn, hopefully it's not that bad


Obviously, I don't think any weird shit like that will happen, but we may discover side affects we don't currently know about.

I'm sure we will. The question is how bad are those.

[Winehole23]

Mississippi study: mask up


What is added by this report?

Among children and adolescents aged <18 years in Mississippi, close contact with persons with COVID-19 and gatherings with persons outside the household and lack of consistent mask use in school were associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection, whereas attending school or child care was not associated with receiving positive SARS-CoV-2 test results.

What are the implications for public health practice?

Close contacts with persons with COVID-19 and gatherings contribute to SARS-CoV-2 infections in children and adolescents. Consistent use of face masks and social distancing continue to be important to prevent COVID-19 spread.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6950e3.htm

[hater]

Called it


Even if the world’s scientists are able to create a safe and effective vaccine, coronavirus will probably never disappear and will resurge every year like the flu – the chief scientific adviser to the British government has warned.

Sir Patrick Vallance said politicians and experts should stop “over-promising” what a vaccine could do – saying the “notion of eliminating COVID is not right” and the world will have to simply learn to live with the virus.

“I mean, it is worth reflecting that there’s only one human disease that’s been truly eradicated, and that’s from the highly effective vaccine to smallpox, so it’s a very difficult thing to do,” he told MPs and peers yesterday.


“We can’t be certain, but I think it’s unlikely we will end up with a truly sterilising vaccine, something that completely stops infection, and it’s likely this disease will circulate and be endemic.”

The disease becoming “endemic” means it would never really go away, despite a potentially successful vaccine helping to manage the situation.


Take the seasonal flu for example, we have a vaccine for that which reduces our risk of getting seriously ill from virus.

However, the virus mutates rapidly – sometimes once a year or more – which means protection from previous vaccines do not last for long.

Sir Patrick said this may well become the case with coronavirus.

“Clearly as management becomes better and you get vaccination, that would decrease the chance of infection and severity of disease, and this starts to look more like annual flu than anything else and that may be the direction we end up going,” he said. “Even with a vaccine, this is something we’re going to need to manage.”

Sir Patrick said that while a number of vaccine candidates cause an immune response, only phase three trials will show whether they stop people from being infected.

[hater]

Lol

https://twitter.com/CTVNews/status/1339223620179124225?s=19

Looks like world will be divided into 2 groups. Rich that can travel and afford vaccine. And poor that cannot do shit and cant have a vaccine.

They cannot seriously implement a vaccine certificate if vaccines are not available to ALL

This reminds me of that german movie. Where rich live great lives in the surface of the planet and poor live and work like shit underground

Metropolis thats it

gdtZv3XROnc

[tholdren]

Lol

https://twitter.com/CTVNews/status/1339223620179124225?s=19

Looks like world will be divided into 2 groups. Rich that can travel and afford vaccine. And poor that cannot do shit and cant have a vaccine.

They cannot seriously implement a vaccine certificate if vaccines are not available to ALL

This reminds me of that german movie. Where rich live great lives in the surface of the planet and poor live and work like shit underground

Metropolis thats it

gdtZv3XROnc

Lol you dont need a vaccine. The end

[lefty]

Fuck it, if the vaccine can give me superpowers, why not?

[tholdren]

Mississippi study: mask up

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6950e3.htm

Lol this

[Winehole23]

Lol

https://twitter.com/CTVNews/status/1339223620179124225?s=19

Looks like world will be divided into 2 groups. Rich that can travel and afford vaccine. And poor that cannot do shit and cant have a vaccine.

They cannot seriously implement a vaccine certificate if vaccines are not available to ALL

This reminds me of that german movie. Where rich live great lives in the surface of the planet and poor live and work like shit underground

Metropolis thats it

gdtZv3XROncMoral equivalent of genocide to put corporate profits over human health during a global pandemic, tbqh.

The WHO proposal to relax IP rights to allow developing countries to produce generic/equivalent vaccines is entirely reasonable.

[hater]

Moral equivalent of genocide to put corporate profits over human health during a global pandemic, tbqh.

The WHO proposal to relax IP rights to allow developing countries to produce generic/equivalent vaccines is entirely reasonable.

Hopefully china and russia save the day

Looks like lots of poor countries are already purchasing Russian vaccine

But Im sure they are also purchasing for their rich.

More needs to be done so everyone has access to it. If they are going to require it for jobs, travel, visas, etc. It needs to be available to All

[tholdren]

Mississippi study: mask up

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6950e3.htm

BeahahHHHHhHhHHhahahahahagagagaghagagahhagagagagag aggagagaaahhahahahah

[ChumpDumper]

Lol you dont need a vaccine. The endYou've had vaccinations.

The end.

[tholdren]

You've had vaccinations.

The end.

Nope

[ChumpDumper]

NopeYep. Science says you're welcome.

[tholdren]

Yep. Science says you're welcome.

Neahahaahhahahaha

Tell more.sob stories

[pgardn]

Neahahaahhahahaha

Tell more.sob stories

low iq ^

[tholdren]

low iq ^

Where all them over capacity hospitals, in march through January

[pgardn]

Where all them over capacity hospitals, in march through January

Not over capacity.
You have a fleet of ICUs in your garage.

[tholdren]

Where all them over capacity hospitals, in march through January

He folds
And pooped

[pgardn]

He folds
And pooped

You did.

[ChumpDumper]

He folds
And poopedyou fold, diaperboi

[tholdren]

you fold, diaperboi

Show the data or you lied

[ChumpDumper]

Show the data or you liedalready did

You pooped yourself and ran.

Why do you always poop yourself?

[pgardn]

Show the data or you lied

yes you lie

[hater]

https://twitter.com/DWUhlfelderLaw/status/1339559794580008960?s=19

[Winehole23]

Germany and Japan getting slammed.

Stricter mitigation seems to be needed during cold & flu season.

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-daily-record-952-deaths-as-germany-enters-lockdown/a-55955713
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-16/new-zealand-s-big-vaccine-plan-eu-pushes-approval-virus-update

[Winehole23]

Also Bloomberg:


U.S. jobless claims jumped to the highest level in three months, suggesting the labor market’s recovery is faltering amid the surge in Covid-19 cases and widening business restrictions. Fatalities in the U.S. hit another daily record, with 3,835 deaths reported on Wednesday.

[SnakeBoy]

Germany and Japan getting slammed.

Stricter mitigation seems to be needed during cold & flu season.

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-daily-record-952-deaths-as-germany-enters-lockdown/a-55955713
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-16/new-zealand-s-big-vaccine-plan-eu-pushes-approval-virus-update

Perhaps, but Japan has good compliance. You need to keep in mind that the virus is mutating to become more infectious and mitigation that worked before may not continue to work. The S strain that I got back in February is all but gone and the more infectious G strains are just making their way back to Asia. Supposedly the new VUI strain in the UK may be even more infectious.

Edit: Strain isn't the right word, should be variant.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/HotepJesus/status/1339569461137977345?s=19

:lmao

[hater]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1339597498487164928?s=19

[hater]

:lol

https://twitter.com/NathanLerner/status/1339598646375895041?s=19

[hater]

:lmao :lol

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1339600945383092224?s=19

[hater]

:lmao anyone thinking Mike Penis or any politician will get a real vaccine on tv :lmao


Looks like imo this is not an "error" but they probably dont want someon3 ODing on tv :lol

[hater]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/Natturnup2/status/1338412111274229761?s=19

[SnakeBoy]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/Natturnup2/status/1338412111274229761?s=19

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They should know not to give you anti-vaxxers any material to spread tho

[hater]

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They should know not to give you anti-vaxxers any material to spread tho

Anti vaxxers or hyper speed "vaccine" doubters.

Im the latter and sure most are

Its not 3ven anti vaxxers but not lemmings imo

[spurraider21]

Anti vaxxers or hyper speed "vaccine" doubters.

Im the latter and sure most are

Its not 3ven anti vaxxers but not lemmings imo
"skeptic"

"just asking questions"

its what anti vaxxers say when they dont like the label. just like climate change "skeptics"

[hater]

"skeptic"

"just asking questions"

its what anti vaxxers say when they dont like the label. just like climate change "skeptics"

Disagreed.

Im pro vaccine just anti no data rushed "vaccine"

Ill be on board when I see the data

[SnakeBoy]

Anti vaxxers or hyper speed "vaccine" doubters.

Im the latter and sure most are

Its not 3ven anti vaxxers but not lemmings imo

I understand you are scared. I grew up an Army brat and was a flyer in the USAF so I've been vaccinated so much I am not afraid.

I am scared of cookies tho. What if there is something in the cookie that cause an allergic reaction? What if that something causes short term/long term side effects? Nope, I will not eat a cookie unless it has been analyzed in a lab and the results are independently peer reviewed.

[hater]

I understand you are scared. I grew up an Army brat and was a flyer in the USAF so I've been vaccinated so much I am not afraid.

I am scared of cookies tho. What if there is something in the cookie that cause an allergic reaction? What if that something causes short term/long term side effects? Nope, I will not eat a cookie unless it has been analyzed in a lab and the results are independently peer reviewed.

Not scared at all.

Just not on board a no data "vaccine"

[SnakeBoy]

Not scared at all.

Just not on board a no data "vaccine"

There is more data on the vaccine than there is on any cookie you eat. People only eat cookies because society tells them it's okay. Don't be a lemming, don't eat cookies.

[SnakeBoy]

Publix Recalls Holiday Cookie Platters Due to Allergy Concerns
https://www.mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2020/12/08/publix-recalls-holiday-cookie-platters-due-to-allergy-concerns

:lmao

Called It!

:lol :lmao

[hater]

There is more data on the vaccine than there is on any cookie you eat. People only eat cookies because society tells them it's okay. Don't be a lemming, don't eat cookies.

Eating a cookie != taking a vaccine

[DarrinS]

Publix Recalls Holiday Cookie Platters Due to Allergy Concerns
https://www.mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2020/12/08/publix-recalls-holiday-cookie-platters-due-to-allergy-concerns

:lmao

Called It!

:lol :lmao


Lol "undeclared pecans"

[SnakeBoy]

Lol "undeclared pecans"

That's what I'm saying, you never know what is in a cookie.

[hater]

:lmao its a turrble analogy

And :lmao is 100k reviewed it :lol. Not even 100k have TAKEN it :lol

[SnakeBoy]

:lmao its a turrble analogy

And :lmao is 100k reviewed it :lol. Not even 100k have TAKEN it :lol

:lol everyone should stay locked down until you're not scared anymore :lol

[hater]

:lol everyone should stay locked down until you're not scared anymore :lol

:lmao you think ppl that take the vaccine will be able to throw away their masks? :lmao

How cute :lol

[SnakeBoy]

:lmao you think ppl that take the vaccine will be able to throw away their masks? :lmao

How cute :lol

Once the vaccine is widely available we can move on. No need to stay locked down for people like you who are scared of the virus and scared of the vaccine.

I already told you I don't care if you choose the vaccine or the virus. You'll probably be fine either way. Just seems like cowardice to want to hide forever.

[spurraider21]

Once the vaccine is widely available we can move on. No need to stay locked down for people like you who are scared of the virus and scared of the vaccine.

I already told you I don't care if you choose the vaccine or the virus. You'll probably be fine either way. Just seems like cowardice to want to hide forever.
never took hater for a bunker bitch

then again he does support the original bunker bitch

[hater]

Once the vaccine is widely available we can move on. No need to stay locked down for people like you who are scared of the virus and scared of the vaccine.

I already told you I don't care if you choose the vaccine or the virus. You'll probably be fine either way. Just seems like cowardice to want to hide forever.

Not scared of the virus at all. Much less the vaccine.

I hope you are right and Im wrong ma niga :tu

I just dont see it as a given at all yet. I give it a 50% chance we will be out of lockdown next year. BTW we here in the US are not on lockdown if you compare w other countries.

I also give it a 50% chance Ill be taking a vaccine by next year. But I do like your optimism :lol very cute

Godspeed ma nig :tu

[Winehole23]

:lmao its a turrble analogy

And :lmao is 100k reviewed it :lol. Not even 100k have TAKEN it :lolUnderneath the straight trolling, Snake Boy has a good point. Food and household products get far less scrutiny than vaccines.

[hater]

Underneath the straight trolling, Snake Boy has a good point. Food and household products get far less scrutiny than vaccines.

Wake me up when we need to inject a household product to board a plane or get a job

[hater]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/XMemor/status/1339704317486354432?s=19

[hater]

Most likely she was nervous or didnt have breakfast imo

Still funny :lmao

https://twitter.com/TaylorRMarshall/status/1339741495755223042?s=19

[Reck]

Most likely she was nervous or didnt have breakfast imo

Still funny :lmao

https://twitter.com/TaylorRMarshall/status/1339741495755223042?s=19

Worse nightmare come to life for the people pushing the vaccine.

I was actually thinking about what if Biden or Obama faints live on tv when he takes it in front of the world. :lol

[hater]

Worse nightmare come to life for the people pushing the vaccine.

I was actually thinking about what if Biden or Obama faints live on tv when he takes it in front of the world. :lol

:lmao thats why they use empty syringes or capped ones :lol

Which mqkes it even worse tbqh :lmao

[hater]

I hope Mike Penis grows horns on live tv :lmao

[hater]

https://twitter.com/bergopolis/status/1339822990121299968?s=19

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/131892587_3642422099168181_744843289095860622_n.jp g?_nc_cat=110&ccb=2&_nc_sid=ca434c&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=G2Zw4z9yh7UAX9zN4cr&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&tp=14&oh=9ddec22557e62d7370bdbb45d54cfd97&oe=6000E571

[Winehole23]

Senegal, Nigeria and South Africa make the US and UK look like shitholes with a corrupt, incompetent governments.

Because we are.


The Tony Blair Institute (TBI) has analysed what Africa countries got right. Unlike the UK, many nations were prepared and acted fast. Countries like Senegal, South Africa and Nigeria were already familiar with best practices for contact tracing, having recently responded to other communicable disease outbreaks. Our analysis of the Oxford Covid-19 Government Response Tracker data suggests that a majority of Sub-Saharan African countries introduced a contact-tracing policy within two days of their first cases or earlier. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/africa-test-and-trace-covid-b1774982.html

[hater]

Senegal, Nigeria and South Africa make the US and UK look like shitholes with a corrupt, incompetent governments.

Because we are.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/africa-test-and-trace-covid-b1774982.html

:lmao this shit is fucking embarrassing :lmao

Aliens must be monitoring our planet and laughing their asses off :lmao

[SnakeBoy]

The actual estimate in that paper is nowhere near close to 135M...

52.9 million total infections may have occurred in the U.S. population from February 27–September 30, 2020

So I don't know where they got that multiplier...

"We estimated that through the end of September"

Virus has been raging since Sept.

[Winehole23]

what containment looks like in a country with its shit together -- Australia.

the USA doesn't even have a functional contact tracing system yet.

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[SnakeBoy]

It's not possible to contact trace 10's or 100's of thousands of people per day

[SnakeBoy]

Migrant worker fined $3500 for breaking quarantine for 8 seconds

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/07/asia/taiwan-quarantine-fine-scli-intl/

[DarrinS]

It's not possible to contact trace 10's or 100's of thousands of people per day

Given the incubation period, I never understood how this could work, especially in large cities.

Maybe if everyone was tracked by GPS. Otherwise, good luck.

[DarrinS]

And how many of you answer calls from non-contacts? I don't

[SnakeBoy]

Given the incubation period, I never understood how this could work, especially in large cities.

Maybe if everyone was tracked by GPS. Otherwise, good luck.

It could have worked early on but the cdc fucked that all up with their botched test rollout. Would've had to control interstate travel also which was never going to happen.

[Winehole23]

Given the incubation period, I never understood how this could work, especially in large cities.

Maybe if everyone was tracked by GPS. Otherwise, good luck.


And how many of you answer calls from non-contacts? I don't


It could have worked early on but the cdc fucked that all up with their botched test rollout. Would've had to control interstate travel also which was never going to happen.You two, always so quick with the excuses for US dithering and incompetence, when other countries simply got shit done.

[SnakeBoy]

You two, always so quick with the excuses for US dithering and incompetence, when other countries simply got shit done.

What excuse am I making for the cdc's incompetence?

[Winehole23]

What excuse am I making for the cdc's incompetence?the' CDC didn't fuck us up irrtrievably, our political leadershi did.

[SnakeBoy]

the' CDC didn't fuck us up irrtrievably, our political leadershi did.

The cdc's fuck up cost us a couple of months of testing capability at the most critical time. Fuck dude they admitted it. Dr Messonnier said "we're really sorry about that" :lol

[DarrinS]

You two, always so quick with the excuses for US dithering and incompetence, when other countries simply got shit done.

Contact tracing for this disease in this country is a fool's errand

The more disturbing thing to me, is lack of any reasonable therapeutics for early covid that might keep people out of hospital

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapeutic-management/

[pgardn]

The cdc's fuck up cost us a couple of months of testing capability at the most critical time. Fuck dude they admitted it. Dr Messonnier said "we're really sorry about that" :lol

And I’m sorry to tell you that the worse fups were not the above.
The worst, by far, was our political leadership flaunting their freedom by not masking and not taking this seriously.
And withholding information.

Are we around the corner yet? It’s just the sniffles, I survived.

[pgardn]

Contact tracing for this disease in this country is a fool's errand

The more disturbing thing to me, is lack of any reasonable therapeutics for early covid that might keep people out of hospital

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapeutic-management/

The fake therapy took care of this.
Snake went nicotine, you were enamored with aquarium products.

[DarrinS]

And I’m sorry to tell you that the worse fups were not the above.
The worst, by far, was our political leadership flaunting their freedom by not masking and not taking this seriously.
And withholding information.

Are we around the corner yet? It’s just the sniffles, I survived.

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[pgardn]

Contact tracing for this disease in this country is a fool's errand

The more disturbing thing to me, is lack of any reasonable therapeutics for early covid that might keep people out of hospital

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapeutic-management/

The fake therapy took care of this.
Snake went nicotine, you were enamored with aquarium products.

LOCALIZED contact tracing is very useful. It’s how a number of businesses, labs, and schools (especially smaller private) are staying open.

[DarrinS]

The fake therapy took care of this.
Snake went nicotine, you were enamored with aquarium products.

I went with protocols of Dr. Paul Marik of Eastern VA medical school.

[pgardn]

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Excellent.
He is as big an idiot as Pelosi and her appearance problem.

[pgardn]

I went with protocols of Dr. Paul Marik of Eastern VA medical school.

Thats why you stick with larger studies by scientists.
The early studies were not there yet so why not use logical prevention measures using the way most transmissible viruses work. It’s not like masks were some bizarre idea, spacing, and washing/ disinfecting.