Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[pgardn]

I like that confidence. :lol

Which is why I like science.
If you dont point out YOUR OWN weaknesses in a conjecture, its on you.
Because someone else will shit on you.

If politicians would only do this with proposals and people could accept the skepticism as thoughtful.
But no, its a W or L. On a sports board. Totally binary and arbitrary.

Btw I did not point out my own weakness in the argument because I just dont know enough.
Or I know enough to know I dont know.

[pgardn]

Bend over and I'll show you a huge load

I thought I was supposed to say that.
Like I would dispense ordinance at the attempted penetration.

[baseline bum]

Which is why I like science.
If you dont point out YOUR OWN weaknesses in a conjecture, its on you.
Because someone else will shit on you.


:bobo



Or I know enough to know I dont know.

Always a fun place to be. I know enough physics to know I don't know a lot of physics. I know enough Japanese to know I don't know a lot of Japanese. Biology though, no fucking clue outside of knowing a little bit about differential equations often used in it.

[phxspurfan]

This gonna hit hard for everyone. Do some light exercises to get your system in good shape. Don't work out while sick though.

yup everybody stay strong and walk/keep fit, eat well

[pgardn]

:bobo



Always a fun place to be. I know enough physics to know I don't know a lot of physics. I know enough Japanese to know I don't know a lot of Japanese. Biology though, no fucking clue outside of knowing a little bit about differential equations often used in it.

Biology is a huge mess.
Way too many variables to model.
But we try and fail and sometimes get easy things correct.

Which is why I also prefer physics without air and friction. And only really mechanics. Nothing modern, especially the General Theory, because honestly I finally figured out I could never learn the math to get the proper models into my head. You cant use words, they break down. Metaphors and similes break down. Its not like anything... This is what frustrates me about Tyson. He makes these movies and writes to give people a feeling like they know it. But, if you presented someone with a question that took synthesis of his ideas given in a book or movie, you cant answer it. He does not want to turn common folk like me off, but just say it for Gods sake.

"You will not fully understand this because you dont have the math background, but I can titillate you with these mind blowing scenarios"

Just say it.
We can take it.

[FrostKing]

Germany is the interesting outlier so far. Only 20 fatalities. per NYT
Culturally cold people.

[boutons_deux]

Wearing masks may increase your risk of coronavirus infection
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200315/Wearing-masks-may-increase-your-risk-of-coronavirus-infection-expert-says.aspx

[boutons_deux]

Before Virus Outbreak, a Cascade of Warnings Went Unheeded

Government exercises, including one last year, made

clear that the U.S. was not ready for a pandemic like the coronavirus. But little was done.

"WASHINGTON — The outbreak of the respiratory virus began in China and

was quickly spread around the world by air travelers, who ran high fevers.

In the United States, it was first detected in Chicago, and 47 days later, the World Health Organization declared a pandemic.

By then it was too late:

110 million Americans were expected to become ill,

leading to 7.7 million hospitalized and

586,000 dead."

That scenario, code-named “Crimson Contagion” and imagining an influenza pandemic, was simulated by the Trump administration’s Department of Health and Human Services in

a series of exercises that ran from last January to August.

The simulation’s sobering results — contained in a draft report dated October 2019 (https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6824-2019-10-key-findings-and-after/05bd797500ea55be0724/optimized/full.pdf#page=1) that has not previously been reported — drove home just

how underfunded,

underprepared and

uncoordinated the federal government

would be for a life-or-death battle with a virus for which no treatment existed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-outbreak.html?ncid=newsltushpmgnews (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-outbreak.html?ncid=newsltushpmgnews)

Was this secret report made available to Dems? Will the Dems bash Trash and his Exec for it failings?

I guarantee you, the Repugs and the right wing hate media would scream and yell at the Dems

[boutons_deux]

Trump Dodges Accountability For Medical Supply Crisis By Blaming States

Despite the federal government’s vastly greater resources,

the president insisted state governments need to find their own solutions as the coronavirus spreads.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-says-states-supply-medical-needs_n_5e739dbcc5b63c3b648c366d?ncid=newsltushpmg news (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-says-states-supply-medical-needs_n_5e739dbcc5b63c3b648c366d?ncid=newsltushpmg news)

[RandomGuy]

Culturally cold people.

Heh, now that you think about it, "social distance" is sort of their national trait, as is cleanliness, although not to the extreme as the Japanese.

[boutons_deux]

When I worked in Germany, I was treated warmly. Germans took their weekend time off to show me around, invite me into their homes.

FK still bitter about the Nazis, but loves Pootin and the Communists.

[hater]

Culturally cold people.

germans are boring as fuck

wake up, eat a baked potato, work, go for a bike/hike, go home eat a baked potato, sleep

thats why they will be the last country standing :lmao

[RandomGuy]

Which is why I like science.
If you dont point out YOUR OWN weaknesses in a conjecture, its on you.
Because someone else will shit on you.

If politicians would only do this with proposals and people could accept the skepticism as thoughtful.
But no, its a W or L. On a sports board. Totally binary and arbitrary.

Btw I did not point out my own weakness in the argument because I just dont know enough.
Or I know enough to know I dont know.

Having the intellectual honesty to Pointing out the weakness in your case.

Wouldn't that be refreshing here?

Makes me wonder about why so few conservatives types are scientists.

Modern conservatives never admit weaknesses in their case, if they are even aware of it. They cherry pick and strawman as a matter of habit. Concealing and distorting is just the way they argue and think, neither of which goes down well in a scientific setting. It's almost as if dishonesty is part of their self-identity.

[Spurs Homer]

Before Virus Outbreak, a Cascade of Warnings Went Unheeded

Government exercises, including one last year, made

clear that the U.S. was not ready for a pandemic like the coronavirus. But little was done.

"WASHINGTON — The outbreak of the respiratory virus began in China and

was quickly spread around the world by air travelers, who ran high fevers.

In the United States, it was first detected in Chicago, and 47 days later, the World Health Organization declared a pandemic.

By then it was too late:

110 million Americans were expected to become ill,

leading to 7.7 million hospitalized and

586,000 dead."

That scenario, code-named “Crimson Contagion” and imagining an influenza pandemic, was simulated by the Trump administration’s Department of Health and Human Services in

a series of exercises that ran from last January to August.

The simulation’s sobering results — contained in a draft report dated October 2019 (https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6824-2019-10-key-findings-and-after/05bd797500ea55be0724/optimized/full.pdf#page=1) that has not previously been reported — drove home just

how underfunded,

underprepared and

uncoordinated the federal government

would be for a life-or-death battle with a virus for which no treatment existed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-outbreak.html?ncid=newsltushpmgnews (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-outbreak.html?ncid=newsltushpmgnews)

Was this secret report made available to Dems? Will the Dems bash Trash and his Exec for it failings?

I guarantee you, the Repugs and the right wing hate media would scream and yell at the Dems




or worse

the feckless dems got the report and no one listened to them anymore because of russian/rt wing/trump propaganda


and just plain being weak and tired of exposing crimes- only to see republicans protect the criminal

[DarrinS]

https://m.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-nobel-laureate-Coronavirus-spread-is-slowing-621145

[hater]

or worse

the feckless dems got the report and no one listened to them anymore because of russian/rt wing/trump propaganda


and just plain being weak and tired of exposing crimes- only to see republicans protect the criminal

great post

actually no bad post :lol disagree

[vy65]

https://m.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-nobel-laureate-Coronavirus-spread-is-slowing-621145

Part of a larger zionist conspiracy. Ask TGY.

[hater]

some scary images from Italy

those ppl do not look over 65 tbqh :wow :wow

https://twitter.com/bilalfpatel/status/1241023895303598085?s=20

[hater]

oh shit, forgot they are allowing 65+ year olds to die :wow

I hope we don't get 1/2 as bad here

[picnroll]

SA lab’s testing platform was approved for COVID 19 testing. 1150 tests per 24 hr, 3-4 hr turn around time. Just need the swabs.

[hater]

happy Firday :)

have a good weekend nigas :lol

_J60fQr0GWo

[Chucho]

You'd think our government would have put something in place after Katrina. Three administrations failed us.

After the middle class and SMBs are genocided because of this, is this enough of a wakeup call to abolish these two underperfoming parties?

[hater]

God Bless Cuba :wow

https://twitter.com/manuelsantajr/status/1241023893118345217?s=20

[hater]

Cuban Empire >>> US Empire tbqh

[hater]

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1240322595226112007?s=20

[hater]

https://twitter.com/BarryMcColgan/status/1240963739593183234?s=20

[hater]

https://twitter.com/AnPhoblachtAbu/status/1240221716963606529?s=20

[hater]

https://twitter.com/famous14u/status/1241012367229509632?s=20

I'm betting US will not use the Free Cuban medicine but try to develop their own so they can charge exorbitant amounts for it to american and non americans

SMDH

[TimDunkem]

https://vimeo.com/398334975

More from Italy

[TheGreatYacht]

THE 2020 NEW WORLD ORDER PANDEMIC STAGED BY THE ELITES EXPOSED

https://youtu.be/V27E_APZAOo

[hater]

do you think Cuba is also in on the conspiracy TGY? :lmao

your theory is weak as fuck :lol

[pgardn]

do you think Cuba is also in on the conspiracy TGY? :lmao

your theory is weak as fuck :lol

You guys need each other.
The US-Israeli invented virus... and poor Floating Turd throws in Cuba, and you THEN call his theory weak.

God help you.

[Blake]

germans are boring as fuck

wake up, eat a baked potato, work, go for a bike/hike, go home eat a baked potato, sleep

thats why they will be the last country standing :lmao

Not if D hasselhoff has anything to say about it

[Blake]

God Bless Cuba :wow

https://twitter.com/manuelsantajr/status/1241023893118345217?s=20

It's incredible how many cutting edge scientists Cuba has

[hater]

It's incredible how many cutting edge scientists Cuba has

:tu

even with decades of embargo

[boutons_deux]

ad by "Republicans for the Rule of Law (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4E4Nv5ues3BNPjcDNxStmA)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=JxG241bExqY&feature=emb_logo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=JxG241bExqY&feature=emb_logo)

[RandomGuy]

Video report here of what is going on in hospitals in Italy right now.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-italys-hardest-hit-city-wants-you-to-see-how-covid-19-is-affecting-its-hospitals-11960597

[TimDunkem]

It's incredible how many cutting edge scientists Cuba has

But don't you dare say they've done a good job training them cuz communism/Castro/etc

[Spurs Homer]

great post

actually no bad post :lol disagree


:lol


make up your mind!

[spurraider21]

It's incredible how many cutting edge scientists Cuba has
why are you praising an authoritarian regime?

[RandomGuy]

[yet another stupid fucking youtube that NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE will watch]

Get off the stage retard.

[hater]

:wow. italy with another record of with 627 dead in 1 day :wow

[hater]

current worldwide mortality: 4%

going up rather than down over time :wow

[hater]

https://twitter.com/gongs/status/1241039831138013186?s=21

[DMC]

The Great Yap

[Thread]

https://twitter.com/gongs/status/1241039831138013186?s=21

Please. We got over 8k dead from regular flu & only a 104 dead from Corona.

[Splits]

Please. We got over 8k dead from regular flu & only a 104 dead from Corona.

Where you getting 104 from?

[Thread]

Where you getting 104 from?

Sorry about that, only 204 dead.

[hater]

Please. We got over 8k dead from regular flu & only a 104 dead from Corona.

you will only be able to keep saying that for a few more weeks niga

enjoy it while it lasts :tu

[DarrinS]

current worldwide mortality: 4%

going up rather than down over time :wow

0.3% in Germany

[koriwhat]

The Great Yap

ain't that the truth :tu

[Thread]

you will only be able to keep saying that for a few more weeks niga

enjoy it while it lasts :tu

By then the 8k will increase, so, I'll use the new # & still smite ya's.

[Spurs Homer]

Leadership "skills" :clap:clap:clap



https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/03/20/trump-message-to-americans-coronavirus-presser-vpx.cnn

[hater]

By then the 8k will increase, so, I'll use the new # & still smite ya's.

it won't increase as much as Corona

enjoy it while it lasts :tu

[velik_m]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J60fQr0GWo

[koriwhat]

Leadership "skills" :clap:clap:clap



https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/03/20/trump-message-to-americans-coronavirus-presser-vpx.cnn

man i watched that presser but don't remember that cnn idiot activist. i'll have to go back to see what he asked prior that led up to that exchange and see if cnn, just like you, always leaves out the context.

seemed like a reasonable question from the video though. trump could've easily answered it but like the past dictates the future i have no hope in cnn to report facts of any kind and or the context of any story.

[Thread]

it won't increase as much as Corona

enjoy it while it lasts :tu

& I am.

Christ, if it does surpass my 8k in "a few more weeks" I'll have to relent & bend over.

[Spurs Homer]

man i watched that presser but don't remember that cnn idiot activist. i'll have to go back to see what he asked prior that led up to that exchange and see if cnn, just like you, always leaves out the context.

seemed like a reasonable question from the video though. trump could've easily answered it but like the past dictates the future i have no hope in cnn to report facts of any kind and or the context of any story.


so you know "enough" to - of course -

defend your cult leader

shocking!


(still praying for your recovery from addiction though! #savejoeytats)

[boutons_deux]

The Italian docs? trying to save the young, letting old die.

[koriwhat]

so you know "enough" to - of course -

defend your cult leader

shocking!


(still praying for your recovery from addiction though! #savejoeytats)

where was i defending trump? i just don't trust clips from cnn nor cnn to begin with and for practical reasons. anyone putting their faith in a clipped video from them is a rube. i simply stated i wanted to go back and watch their exchange prior to see what led up to trump's disgust from what i think was a reasonable question too.

you're so bitter SH.

as well, this drug addiction, recovery, intervention, etc bullshit is nothing short of weak trolling. you weren't even the one to start the troll job but like most losers who aren't leaders you're a follower who parrots the bullshit and pats your lame ass on the back. stay dumb ya retard! :tu

[Nathan89]

& I am.

Christ, if it does surpass my 8k in "a few more weeks" I'll have to relent & bend over.

Thread, you will have to bend over. It has long past the time when comparing this to the flu is reasonable. Especially given the fact that you are in this thread reading hundreds of updates that are increasingly worse.

[DMC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J60fQr0GWo

It seems you either live and recover or you die....


well no shit

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1241050564437385219?s=20

My eye just twitched reading a comment to this that said "so what it's only 627 people out of 60 million". The last few days there have 400+ deaths per day with this being the most. Stop comparing this to the fucking flu.

[Blake]

Please. We got over 8k dead from regular flu & only a 104 dead from Corona.

What's your point?

[koriwhat]

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1241050564437385219?s=20

My eye just twitched reading a comment to this that said "so what it's only 627 people out of 60 million". The last few days there have 400+ deaths per day with this being the most. Stop comparing this to the fucking flu.

it's crap millennials who are bitter and have bought into the whole "we need population control" until it hits them directly. sad...

[Thread]

What's your point?

I can't remember, I'm just brazening it out now, Blake.

[Nathan89]

Also your 104 number is incorrect. We have over 200 deaths now. Italy has near 4000.

[Thread]

Also your 104 number is incorrect. We have over 200 deaths now. Italy has near 4000.

I know, I already acknowledged that miscue.

[hater]

& I am.

Christ, if it does surpass my 8k in "a few more weeks" I'll have to relent & bend over.

you do realize that our hospitals have only 2 weeks left of medical protective equipment right?

[Blake]

I can't remember, I'm just brazening it out now, Blake.

K

[hater]

it starts in London. its gonna be a bloodbath

https://twitter.com/billsnaddon/status/1240544527439532033?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/lawrencedunhill/status/1241015122858070018?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1240281049952858117?s=21

[Thread]

you do realize that our hospitals have only 2 weeks left of medical protective equipment right?

2-3 weeks. Don't exaggerate.

[boutons_deux]

Trash refusing to use his National Emergency war time powers to force companies to produce PPE, etc.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/andycorneys/status/1240922567445221376?s=21

[koriwhat]

https://twitter.com/andycorneys/status/1240922567445221376?s=21

good ol' medicare for all!

[hater]

good ol' medicare for all!

you realize our great private health care is about to get fucked as well right?

[koriwhat]

you realize our great private health care is about to get fucked as well right?

well duh but that doesn't discount that "medicare for all" or nationalized medical care is the answer because obviously it isn't.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/kilolima18/status/1241092971426021376?s=21

[hater]

well duh but that doesn't discount that "medicare for all" or nationalized medical care is the answer because obviously it isn't.

we cant even test enough ppl :lmao

we are worse off here

[Blake]

good ol' medicare for all!

We have about the same number of hospital beds per person, genius

Italy actually has more

[koriwhat]

We have about the same number of hospital beds per person, genius

Italy actually has more

so it's still not "for all" right? lol not enough beds but medicare for all is what we promise!

[koriwhat]

https://twitter.com/kilolima18/status/1241092971426021376?s=21

retired? what's their retirement age and how long have these retirees been out of work? they could be walking into a death trap considering their age.

[Blake]

so it's still not "for all" right? lol not enough beds but medicare for all is what we promise!

Good ol capitalist healthcare for some!

[koriwhat]

Good ol capitalist healthcare for some!

you do realize there's already medicare for all in the USA right? ever driven by the university hospital before? you think those people are paying a dime for medical services? :lmao

[boutons_deux]

Uninsured coronavirus patient hit with massive $34,000 hospital bill

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/uninsured-coronavirus-patient-hit-with-massive-34000-hospital-bill/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/uninsured-coronavirus-patient-hit-with-massive-34000-hospital-bill/)

How many "young people who don't need insurance" will be stuck with hospital bills of $10Ks?

[vy65]

About 50 fewer deaths in Italy.

March 17 - 18: 2,503 - 2,978: 475 deaths.
March 18 - 19: 2,978 - 3,405: 427 deaths.

[Will Hunting]

Uninsured coronavirus patient hit with massive $34,000 hospital bill

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/uninsured-coronavirus-patient-hit-with-massive-34000-hospital-bill/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/uninsured-coronavirus-patient-hit-with-massive-34000-hospital-bill/)

How many "young people who don't need insurance" will be stuck with hospital bills of $10Ks?



For the ones who are poor I feel bad for them. For the ones who just chose to not get insurance they can go screw themselves.

[hater]

About 50 fewer deaths in Italy.

March 17 - 18: 2,503 - 2,978: 475 deaths.
March 18 - 19: 2,978 - 3,405: 427 deaths.

what

italy had 625 deaths today march 20

[boutons_deux]

For the ones who are poor I feel bad for them. For the ones who just chose to not get insurance they can go screw themselves.

Repugs encouraged people NOT to buy insurance by stopping the no-insurance penalty of individual mandate, which is now the basis of their suit by shithole Texas to annul ACA in entirety.

Fuck shitbag Repugs and their mortal kakistocracy to hell.

[boutons_deux]

As prescribed by world famous MIT professor Dr Trash

Hydroxychloroquine toxicity


Risk Factors

Hydroxychloroquine retinopathy is most influenced by daily dose and duration of use. Risk for toxicity is less with <5.0 mg/kg real weight/day for hydroxychloroquine and <2.3 mg/kg real weight/day for chloroquine[2] (https://eyewiki.aao.org/Hydroxychloroquine_toxicity#cite_note-:2-2). Patients are at low risk during the first 5 years of treatment. Other major risk factors include renal disease, concominant drug use (e.g., tamoxifen), and macular disease which is thought to potentially affect screening and susceptibility to Plaquenil and chloroquine. Age, liver disease, and genetic factors (e.g., polymorphisms in the cytochrome P450 gene which may impact blood concentrations) are thought to be lesser risk factors associated with toxicity risk[2] (https://eyewiki.aao.org/Hydroxychloroquine_toxicity#cite_note-:2-2)[4] (https://eyewiki.aao.org/Hydroxychloroquine_toxicity#cite_note-4). Kidney and liver disease predispose to hydroxychloroquine toxicity due to impaired clearance of the drug. Old age is hypothesized to contribute to overall risk due to the natural aging process of the retinal pigment epithelium (RPE), causing the RPE to be more sensitive to toxic drugs. Similarly, concomitant retinal conditions predispose to toxicity due to predamaged cellular elements. At recommended doses, the risk of toxicity up to 5 years is under 1%and up to 10 years is under 2%, but rises to nearly 20% after 20 years. However, if a patient has not demonstrated toxicity after the 20-year point, he/she only has a 4% risk of developing toxicity the subsequent year.[2] (https://eyewiki.aao.org/Hydroxychloroquine_toxicity#cite_note-:2-2) Keratopathy is rare (<1%) in patients treated with typical doses of hydroxychloroquine. Ciliary body dysfunction is rare and no risk factors are identified.
General Pathology

Hydroxychloroquine retinopathy causes destruction of macular rods and cones with sparing of foveal cones. This pattern provides the typical bullseye appearance. RPE migrates into the areas of destructed photoreceptors, causing pigment laden cells to be detected in the outer nuclear and outer plexiform layers[1] (https://eyewiki.aao.org/Hydroxychloroquine_toxicity#cite_note-:1-1). Hydroxychloroquine keratopathy is caused by deposition of unmodified hydroxychloroquine salts within the epithelium[1] (https://eyewiki.aao.org/Hydroxychloroquine_toxicity#cite_note-:1-1).
Pathophysiology

Hydroxychloroquine binds to melanin, accumulates in the RPE, and remains there for long periods of time. It is directly toxic to the RPE, causing cellular damage and atrophy[2] (https://eyewiki.aao.org/Hydroxychloroquine_toxicity#cite_note-:2-2). This occurs due to disruption of RPE metabolism, specifically from lysosomal damage[5] (https://eyewiki.aao.org/Hydroxychloroquine_toxicity#cite_note-:4-5), and reduced phagocytic activity toward shed photoreceptor outer segments. Accumulation of photoreceptor outer segments leads to RPE degeneration, migration into the outer retina, and finally photoreceptor loss[1] (https://eyewiki.aao.org/Hydroxychloroquine_toxicity#cite_note-:1-1).

https://eyewiki.aao.org/Hydroxychloroquine_toxicity

[boutons_deux]

Deep State Department

[Blake]

you do realize there's already medicare for all in the USA right? ever driven by the university hospital before? you think those people are paying a dime for medical services? :lmao

Two different things there. You have no clue what you're babbling about

[koriwhat]

Two different things there. You have no clue what you're babbling about

my father got a quadruple bypass free of charge when he was in his late 50's. tell me again that i have no clue... :lol

[Blake]

my father got a quadruple bypass free of charge when he was in his late 50's. tell me again that i have no clue... :lol

because he couldn't afford preventive checkups.

[Nathan89]

good ol' medicare for all!

"It's a human right!"

[koriwhat]

because he couldn't afford preventive checkups.

spin it however you'd like but 99% of those who go to the uni hospital pay zilch.

[koriwhat]

"It's a human right!"

it's going to be a sad day when potential doctors decide not to enter the field because dipshits deem their edu and experience as a human right. i wouldn't enter a field where a bunch of fringe retards are screaming for my services at 0 cost to them.

[boutons_deux]

Poor people suffer and die many years earlier, for lack of health care, than rich people,

but that's OK with socio/economic Darwinian Capitalists (I kill you with poverty because I am "fitter" )

and

evangelicals (you are are poor because you're a bad person so God had denied you prosperity)

[koriwhat]

Poor people suffer and die many years earlier, for lack of health care, than rich people,

but that's OK with socio/economic Darwinian Capitalists (I kill you with poverty because I "fitter") and

evangelicals (you are are poor because you're a bad person so God had denied you prosperity)

you were much more cool an hour ago when you were posting open source diy projects but now you're back to being a dunce.

[ElNono]

it's going to be a sad day when potential doctors decide not to enter the field because dipshits deem their edu and experience as a human right. i wouldn't enter a field where a bunch of fringe retards are screaming for my services at 0 cost to them.

Nothing sad about it, tbh... you'll have people that want to be doctors primarily to help others and advance the sciences, not primarily about making a buck.

I have bigger issues with middlemen than doctors though.

[koriwhat]

Nothing sad about it, tbh... you'll have people that want to be doctors primarily to help others and advance the sciences, not primarily about making a buck.

I have bigger issues with middlemen than doctors though.

you mean like teachers? lol i know plenty of teachers who went that route for 2 months off during the year.

[ElNono]

you mean like teachers? lol i know plenty of teachers who went that route for 2 months off during the year.

No, I mean like doctors. And I don't want to generalize here, there's plenty of them that care about the hippocratic oath they took, and a good chunk of them got screwed over by insurance as much as patients.

[koriwhat]

No, I mean like doctors. And I don't want to generalize here, there's plenty of them that care about the hippocratic oath they took, and a good chunk of them got screwed over by insurance as much as patients.

is that right? when my other grandfather was dying of cancer he entertained the thought of marijuana and asked his doc about it. you know what the doc said? "i don't know about marijuana but i don't think it's safe for you to take." well which one is it doc? you don't know or you don't think?

also when my other grandfather was dying in the hospital the docs refused to look at his colostomy bag until it was too late citing they needed a professional to look at it first. by the time the pro came in my grandfather had necrosis of the opening and was in a coma(he died a couple days later). the pro yelled at the staff/docs and asked why they didn't do the normal check when he came in. what an oath they took!

yall want shit for free when yall wouldn't work for free yourselves. got it! :tu

[Xevious]

What the fuck are we doing? Really? We're closing "non-essential" business while you still have people milling about Walmart and Target because they sell groceries and medicine. And you have other jackasses like Gamestop and Hobby Lobby claiming that their stores are essential. :lol

Some places are getting completely fucked over while others are getting a pass. If we're going to completely rape the economy, let's go all in. Force grocery stores to do curbside or delivery only. There are still too many opportunities to spread the virus for any of this to be worth it.

[DarrinS]

What the fuck are we doing? Really? We're closing "non-essential" business while you still have people milling about Walmart and Target because they sell groceries and medicine. And you have other jackasses like Gamestop and Hobby Lobby claiming that their stores are essential. :lol

Some places are getting completely fucked over while others are getting a pass. If we're going to completely rape the economy, let's go all in. Force grocery stores to do curbside or delivery only. There are still too many opportunities to spread the virus for any of this to be worth it.


This curve flattening is super costly.

[TimDunkem]

What the fuck are we doing? Really? We're closing "non-essential" business while you still have people milling about Walmart and Target because they sell groceries and medicine. And you have other jackasses like Gamestop and Hobby Lobby claiming that their stores are essential. :lol

Some places are getting completely fucked over while others are getting a pass. If we're going to completely rape the economy, let's go all in. Force grocery stores to do curbside or delivery only. There are still too many opportunities to spread the virus for any of this to be worth it.

I admit I went to an HEB today. Full of old people.

[FlAVaK]

0.3% in Germany

Because Germany doesn't test the deads...

[ElNono]

is that right? when my other grandfather was dying of cancer he entertained the thought of marijuana and asked his doc about it. you know what the doc said? "i don't know about marijuana but i don't think it's safe for you to take." well which one is it doc? you don't know or you don't think?

also when my other grandfather was dying in the hospital the docs refused to look at his colostomy bag until it was too late citing they needed a professional to look at it first. by the time the pro came in my grandfather had necrosis of the opening and was in a coma(he died a couple days later). the pro yelled at the staff/docs and asked why they didn't do the normal check when he came in. what an oath they took!

yall want shit for free when yall wouldn't work for free yourselves. got it! :tu

If we're into anecdotes, I've done plenty of free work in open source projects. It worked out well for the project and for me. Didn't pay the bills, but helped build that resume, and people got to see the work.

Plus, nobody is arguing for 'free'. Doctors all over the world get paid reasonably well, have a good life, and still work in a subsidized system.

[Death In June]

On a positive note, my fiancee was able to get a test done. That'll suffice as a test for me since we both have the same symptoms and got sick at the same time. We'll know in 3 to 4 days.

[baseline bum]

This curve flattening is super costly.

Probably less costly than not flattening it though. There are really no choices that can be made that aren't filled with terrible repercussions right now.

[ElNono]

On a positive note, my fiancee was able to get a test done. That'll suffice as a test for me since we both have the same symptoms and got sick at the same time. We'll know in 3 to 4 days.

Plus, you ain't dying till June, so there's that

[TimDunkem]

Plus, you ain't dying till June, so there's that

Wouldn't that be some shit if his username turned out to be prophetic. :lol

[koriwhat]

If we're into anecdotes, I've done plenty of free work in open source projects. It worked out well for the project and for me. Didn't pay the bills, but helped build that resume, and people got to see the work.

Plus, nobody is arguing for 'free'. Doctors all over the world get paid reasonably well, have a good life, and still work in a subsidized system.

that's what their residency program is for. sure they get paid but not nearly what they would as an actual doc.

i've done plenty of pro-bono work too in graphics and when i first started out in tattooing. once you've established yourself what's the point unless you like shooting yourself in the foot or devaluing your experience/time?

[koriwhat]

On a positive note, my fiancee was able to get a test done. That'll suffice as a test for me since we both have the same symptoms and got sick at the same time. We'll know in 3 to 4 days.

here's hoping for a "negative" result for you both. stay safe! :tu

[koriwhat]

Plus, you ain't dying till June, so there's that


Wouldn't that be some shit if his username turned out to be prophetic. :lol

yall beat me to it.

[ElNono]

that's what their residency program is for. sure they get paid but not nearly what they would as an actual doc.

i've done plenty of pro-bono work too in graphics and when i first started out in tattooing. once you've established yourself what's the point unless you like shooting yourself in the foot or devaluing your experience/time?

Up until a year ago when I was still running my own business, I still contributed to projects for free. I don't think it was devaluing anything, it was mostly fun hobby stuff.

But, again, it's besides the point, as we're not asking anybody to work for free. It's more about having certain caps on earnings. That'll likely never fly in the US, first to admit that, but there's nothing particularly sad about it if you like what you do.

[TimDunkem]

Someone in Pence's office tested positive for the virus. :lol

[koriwhat]

there's nothing particularly sad about it if you like what you do.

that's the issue here... you believe everyone picks a field because they like what they do and not because they chose to field for its monetary return. my stepfather is an accountant who loved painting houses at 20 yrs old and told me he picked being an accountant because painting houses wasn't going to pay his bills. it is what it is.

i'm not saying you're completely wrong. however, i believe you think the % of those willing to do the job due to their higher calling is absurd.

[hater]

Someone in Pence's office tested positive for the virus. :lol

heres to hoping

hes the worst Tzar in charge of anything ever

https://twitter.com/kevinlyfather/status/1240745882825310208?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/palmerreport/status/1238940590231846913?s=21

looks like Dump and Penis are going to need “respirators” soon :lmao

:lmao Mar A Lago a fucking coronavirus cumbucket :lol

[RandomGuy]

What the fuck are we doing? Really? We're closing "non-essential" business while you still have people milling about Walmart and Target because they sell groceries and medicine. And you have other jackasses like Gamestop and Hobby Lobby claiming that their stores are essential. :lol

Some places are getting completely fucked over while others are getting a pass. If we're going to completely rape the economy, let's go all in. Force grocery stores to do curbside or delivery only. There are still too many opportunities to spread the virus for any of this to be worth it.

Curbside and delivery require infrastructure. Order picking, order processing etc. If your locale doesn't ahve it already... it ain't happeningin the next month.

[Splits]

https://twitter.com/palmerreport/status/1238940590231846913?s=21

looks like Dump and Penis are going to need “respirators” soon :lmao

:lmao Mar A Lago a fucking coronavirus cumbucket :lol

You dumbass, I posted that a week ago. Took 5 days and they reported Ronna, having visited Ron-a-Lago, was indeed negative for the virus.

[DMC]

:lol Hater still finding downed F-35s everywhere.

:lol Ugandan troll plebe

[hater]

You dumbass, I posted that a week ago. Took 5 days and they reported Ronna, having visited Ron-a-Lago, was indeed negative for the virus.

my comments still stand jiga a Penis staffer just got the bug

:lmao mar a lago

[hater]

:lol Hater still finding downed F-35s everywhere.

:lol Ugandan troll plebe

what US city should be firebombed to prevent spread jiga? :lmao

brilliant strategy :lmao

[Thread]

CNN stole my shit. GD it!!!

(CNN)Covid-19 is poised to become an >>>>>>extinction-level event<<<<<< for America's nonprofits. Cultural institutions have been forced to close their doors. Organizations working in and around public schools or in senior centers cannot provide services because their clients are not showing up.]]]

[Thread]

Obama lost 12k+ American lives during H1N1.
Trump has lost less than 300 lives.

[Splits]

CNN stole my shit. GD it!!!

(CNN)Covid-19 is poised to become an >>>>>>extinction-level event<<<<<< for America's nonprofits. Cultural institutions have been forced to close their doors. Organizations working in and around public schools or in senior centers cannot provide services because their clients are not showing up.]]]

sum people call it a sling blade...

[boutons_deux]

watch the Repugs enrich the rich and screw the poor with their bailout

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/88316093_876980829396160_7929737873098539008_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=0T7668J390IAX_QQg2A&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=b8ae258edea292571299a9ab6118dfa0&oe=5E99F24D

[Splits]

CNN stole my shit. GD it!!!

(CNN)Covid-19 is poised to become an >>>>>>extinction-level event<<<<<< for America's nonprofits. Cultural institutions have been forced to close their doors. Organizations working in and around public schools or in senior centers cannot provide services because their clients are not showing up.]]]

just switch over to msnbc and rub one out while Katy Tur is on air.

[Reck]

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I like their commitment but it ain't happening, dog.

Unless something very very drastic happens and the virus just goes away magically, no athlete is going.

[Thread]

just switch over to msnbc and rub one out while Katy Tur is on air.

I don't like her, Splits. The only girls I like are on CNN. Even the homely ones turn me on over there.

Here's my favorite:::https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/uBj9tBltP30vz9R9Du9yPSHF_siHReANhFR1eWFGnMsF_lzju8 ow5oi6IM2u5z7ix4JfLmvLmJh62js1X8mcRWhBvx7HYJYtwsOE J9CnbmsR6VFdQibvH2ksf37JcYZrOv2dmUml5wTKEjwyo6apHr z0wVQMargaret Hoover

[TDMVPDPOY]

let it purge man....country can save alot of welfare money if the correct people in the population is purge... and then there are those who dont contribute, dont pay taxes...they should also go..

[hater]

let it purge man....country can save alot of welfare money if the correct people in the population is purge... and then there are those who dont contribute, dont pay taxes...they should also go..

you dont get it

hospitals will get overrun and collapse

medical service collapses and society collapses

domino effect manniga

[apalisoc_9]

Because Germany doesn't test the deads...

i knew it was something like this. They dont report COIVD as cause of death if they already had underlying medical issues.

[ElNono]

that's the issue here... you believe everyone picks a field because they like what they do and not because they chose to field for its monetary return. my stepfather is an accountant who loved painting houses at 20 yrs old and told me he picked being an accountant because painting houses wasn't going to pay his bills. it is what it is.

i'm not saying you're completely wrong. however, i believe you think the % of those willing to do the job due to their higher calling is absurd.

Then why have a hippocratic oath at all? I mean, I know it gets shitted on the regular, but part of that profession is, in theory, about a higher calling.

And look, it's always a person's choice, nobody is telling them they should pick that field.

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/palmerreport/status/1238940590231846913?s=21

looks like Dump and Penis are going to need “respirators” soon :lmao

:lmao Mar A Lago a fucking coronavirus cumbucket :lol

Hope Trump doesn't die, tbh, he'll go down as a martyr for idiots.

[ElNono]

tho I admit it would make comedy gold in light of his phrases over the past 2 weeks

[hater]

if Penis and Dump die doesnt that make Pelosi president? :lmao

[ElNono]

if Penis and Dump die doesnt that make Pelosi president? :lmao

Nancy

Would be absolutely incredible if Pelosi doesn't die... she's like 108 years old, mortality rate on her age group is probably 110%.

[hater]

Nancy

Would be absolutely incredible if Pelosi doesn't die... she's like 108 years old, mortality rate on her age group is probably 110%.

women do better than men vs Corona tbqh

plus those tits are probably second lungs for nancy

[DMC]

what US city should be firebombed to prevent spread jiga? :lmao

brilliant strategy :lmao

Wuhan. Fuel air bomb at 2000 hrs if you cannot find the host.

[hater]

USAs curve looks like an erect dick :wow

we will most definitely pass Germany by Monday and Iran and Italy by next Friday

[hater]

Wuhan. Fuel air bomb at 2000 hrs if you cannot find the host.

you suggested it when there were cases outside china already :lmao

briliant strategy :lmao

[hater]

USAs curve looks like an erect dick :wow

we will most definitely pass Germany by Monday and Iran and Italy by next Friday

there aint no Olympics but we going for the gold :lmao

[Blake]

1238051870901325824

1241075841347366912

I like their commitment but it ain't happening, dog.

Unless something very very drastic happens and the virus just goes away magically, no athlete is going.

Japanese sweeping all the gold

[hater]

Japanese sweeping all the gold

the chinese would go. they dont have a corona problem :lmao

[Reck]

I remain puzzled and amused on how everyone around Trump is getting infected but the dude keeps on trucking. Maybe he does have perfect health. :lol

[hater]

I remain puzzled and amused on how everyone around Trump is getting infected but the dude keeps on trucking. Maybe he does have perfect health. :lol

or maybe hes THE CHOSEN ONE

[Trainwreck2100]

I remain puzzled and amused on how everyone around Trump is getting infected but the dude keeps on trucking. Maybe he does have perfect health. :lol
i see it as a mr burns scenario he's just so fucked up he can't get any sicker

[TheGreatYacht]

or maybe hes THE CHOSEN ONE

Or maybe Coronavirus is a HOAX.

[hater]

Or maybe Coronavirus is a HOAX.

you need to catch up on twitter news jig

no way the videos are all fake this sheet is real as hunger

[DMX7]

This tweet is not aging well...

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[DarrinS]

Or maybe Coronavirus is a HOAX.

^This kid is retarded, tbh

[Reck]

the chinese would go. they dont have a corona problem :lmao

It took China what? Like 3 months to recover and they have a billion people living on top of each other? If we don’t go full retard we should probably recover in a similar time period.

[baseline bum]

there aint no Olympics but we going for the gold :lmao

It's fucking frightening. Look at this graph of the logarithm of US deaths from COVID-19. If it was a straight line that would be pretty straightforward exponential growth.

https://i.ibb.co/b5vm0mB/fckme.png

This line was already steeper than Italy's 8 days ago, meaning a more aggressive exponential growth of the form e^(ax), eg with higher number 'a'. Now the slope of the log graph is fucking increasing, it's not even (roughly) a line any more. Now it's more like e^(bx^2 + ax) for some small b.

[baseline bum]

Death panels coming very fucking soon to our hospitals.

[slick'81]

It's fucking frightening. Look at this graph of the logarithm of US deaths from COVID-19. If it was a straight line that would be pretty straightforward exponential growth.

https://i.ibb.co/b5vm0mB/fckme.png

This line was already steeper than Italy's 8 days ago, meaning a more aggressive exponential growth of the form e^(ax), eg with higher number 'a'. Now the slope of the log graph is fucking increasing, it's not even (roughly) a line any more. Now it's more like e^(bx^2 + ax) for some small b.



Usa is going to make italy look like a walk in the park. Too many americans even today are treating this like no big deal

[ElNono]

Death panels coming very fucking soon to our hospitals.

https://i.insider.com/5b4531795ea108b7008b45ac?width=1200&format=jpeg

called it!

[DarrinS]

It's fucking frightening. Look at this graph of the logarithm of US deaths from COVID-19. If it was a straight line that would be pretty straightforward exponential growth.

https://i.ibb.co/b5vm0mB/fckme.png

This line was already steeper than Italy's 8 days ago, meaning a more aggressive exponential growth of the form e^(ax), eg with higher number 'a'. Now the slope of the log graph is fucking increasing, it's not even (roughly) a line any more. Now it's more like e^(bx^2 + ax) for some small b.


Death panels coming very fucking soon to our hospitals.


Usa is going to make italy look like a walk in the park. Too many americans even today are treating this like no big deal



Jesus, what's with all the worst case scenarios? Italy, specifically northern Italy, was fucked because of their demographics, high population density, and social practices.

For fucks sake, quit freaking yourselves out.

[baseline bum]

Jesus, what's with all the worst case scenarios? Italy, specifically northern Italy, was fucked because of their demographics, high population density, and social practices.

For fucks sake, quit freaking yourselves out.

You do not see any concern with the deaths becoming nonlinear in a log plot? You can't be serious. Our log plot was already steeper than Italy's and now it's increasing in slope. You also have cities and hospitals telling you this is happening, that they're wholly unprepared.

[baseline bum]

the chinese would go. they dont have a corona problem :lmao

They would after competing with us.

[DarrinS]

You do not see any concern with the deaths becoming nonlinear in a log plot? You can't be serious. Our log plot was already steeper than Italy's and now it's increasing in slope. You also have cities and hospitals telling you this is happening, that they're wholly unprepared.


I'm sure there will be pockets, "hot spots" , that will surge, e.g. NYC, but get a grip. We don't even have 300 deaths, in a country with 300M people.

[slick'81]

Jesus, what's with all the worst case scenarios? Italy, specifically northern Italy, was fucked because of their demographics, high population density, and social practices.

For fucks sake, quit freaking yourselves out.

they're worse case scenarios if we comply and actually stay home. Clearly we arent ,and shit is getting alot worse obviously

[DarrinS]

they're worse case scenarios if we comply and actually stay home. Clearly we arent ,and shit is getting alot worse obviously

No

[DarrinS]

If you start trying to do projections based on early reporting of data, you will be WAAYYY off.

[slick'81]

No


Ok

[ElNono]

I'm sure there will be pockets, "hot spots" , that will surge, e.g. NYC, but get a grip. We don't even have 300 deaths, in a country with 300M people.

Somebody was feeling good two days ago because we only had less than 60 deaths...

[DarrinS]

We have 29 cases in San Antonio, zero deaths, and we've shut everything down. Think about that.

[ElNono]

We have 29 cases in San Antonio, zero deaths, and we've shut everything down. Think about that.

I think it's the right thing to do. Hopefully it can be slowed down there...

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RepGosar/status/1241187475957088256?s=19

[DarrinS]

Somebody was feeling good two days ago because we only had less than 60 deaths...

It's only the speed of it that is problematic. The WORLD numbers aren't even that large.

The problem is just a high volume of patients in a short time.

[DarrinS]

We should be focusing and moving resources to the areas that most need it. I'm positive that's what's going on behind the scenes.

[DarrinS]

Germany must have some great treatment, because their numbers are very good.

[ElNono]

Germany must have some great treatment, because their numbers are very good.

A german poster was saying they don't test the dead, so take that into account

[Reck]

they're worse case scenarios if we comply and actually stay home. Clearly we arent ,and shit is getting alot worse obviously

Well this is insane.

If we do our part collectively this is most definitely not worse case scenario.

[dude21]

I'm working from home. I and my girl don't need this shit. :lol

[Reck]

We have 29 cases in San Antonio, zero deaths, and we've shut everything down. Think about that.

You can’t deny though a lot of people will die. It will be in the hundred thousands, perhaps. I don’t think we’ll get quite the forecasted of a million but it will still be pretty bad.

The cost of acting 3 months too late.

[Blake]

We have 29 cases in San Antonio, zero deaths, and we've shut everything down. Think about that.

But we haven't shut everything down. I don't know why you keep saying we have

[slick'81]

Well this is insane.

If we do our part collectively this is most definitely not worse case scenario.


Well hopefully not millions IF we do our part

[DarrinS]

A german poster was saying they don't test the dead, so take that into account

They've got 20K cases and less than 100 deaths.

[DarrinS]

Well hopefully not millions IF we do our part

How do you come up with millions?

Do you not know the totals for the WORLD?

[DarrinS]

My company has offices in China. Not a single employee even got the virus. They are going back to work in mixed shifts.

[slick'81]

How do you come up with millions?

Do you not know the totals for the WORLD?


Worst case-"don’t think we’ll get quite the forecasted of a million " And isnt Bavaria under lockdown?

[DarrinS]

Worst case-"don’t think we’ll get quite the forecasted of a million " And isnt Bavaria under lockdown?

Just fyi, there aren't even half a million cases in the WORLD.

Stop trying to scare yourself

[TheGreatYacht]

My company has offices in China. Not a single employee even got the hoax virus. They are going back to work in mixed shifts.

Fixed

[slick'81]

Just fyi, there aren't even half a million cases in the WORLD.

Stop trying to scare yourself


Im cool my dude. At home after my dmb ass boss closed her buisness down

[Thread]

The first CDC confirmed case of C-19 was on 26 Jan 2020.
One more thing to keep in mind on 19 Jan 2020 WHO declared that COVID-19 COULD NOT infect person to person.

[midnightpulp]

My company has offices in China. Not a single employee even got the virus. They are going back to work in mixed shifts.

Because they locked down Wuhan. That is encouraging news, though. I think what will guard us against a mass and fast nationwide spread like that in Italy is that we don't have nearly as many population dense clusters as Europe and China. E.G. the virus isn't going to spread across Idaho at a record pace when cases and deaths exponentially grow each day. New York is probably most at risk in this regard.

[Blake]

Seriously, why are we dragging our feet on closing places like the malls? Still open.

[Nathan89]

They've got 20K cases and less than 100 deaths.

I was just looking at numbers that said New York had over 8,377 and only 53 deaths. So that rate is not far off.

[DarrinS]

If shutting everything down for two weeks will effectively throw a speed bump at the viral spread, fine.

We need to get back to work, tho. Virus, or no virus.

[DarrinS]

Seriously, why are we dragging our feet on closing places like the malls? Still open.

Grocery stores are more crowded than La Cantera.

[Nathan89]

"These numbers are still far from sufficient to get the coronavirus under control. South Korea, with about 15 percent of the US population, has tested (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/coronavirus-cases-have-dropped-sharply-south-korea-whats-secret-its-success) 270,000 people. But America's testing capacity has been growing fast, and we can expect continued growth in the coming days and weeks.On Wednesday, Abbott Labs announced (https://www.abbott.com/corpnewsroom/product-and-innovation/abbott-launches-novel-coronavirus-test.html) FDA approval of its coronavirus test. The company said it was "deploying 150,000 laboratory tests immediately" and was aiming to reach a million tests a week before the end of March.
Another major medical testing provider, Roche, announced (https://diagnostics.roche.com/us/en/news-listing/2020/roche-begins-shipments-of-first-400000-covid-19-tests-to-laboratories-across-US-to-begin-patient-testing-under-fda-emergency-use-authorization.html) on Monday that it was planning to ship out 400,000 tests. "The test kits are being sent to a network of more than 30 hospital and reference laboratories in the US that already have the required instrumentation in place and have the ability to implement high-volume testing immediately."
These are just two of many examples of US providers working to ramp up coronavirus testing capacity. With their help, the US will soon have far more coronavirus testing capacity than it has today."

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/03/america-is-finally-testing-for-coronavirus-in-significant-volumes/

Link includes a graph of the exponential increase in tests in the US. Just that one company is aiming to reach a million tests per week by the end of March which 140k+ per day. Hopefully this isn't bullshit. If not we'll quickly be out testing every country.

[ElNono]

Grocery stores are more crowded than La Cantera.

Picked up some groceries today. They have a max 10 people inside the store at any one time. Only waited ~5 mins to get in. First few days were crazy shit like you describe, but this works a lot better. We'll see how things work out

[Nathan89]

Grocery stores are more crowded than La Cantera.

But those are important.

[ElNono]

"These numbers are still far from sufficient to get the coronavirus under control. South Korea, with about 15 percent of the US population, has tested (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/coronavirus-cases-have-dropped-sharply-south-korea-whats-secret-its-success) 270,000 people. But America's testing capacity has been growing fast, and we can expect continued growth in the coming days and weeks.On Wednesday, Abbott Labs announced (https://www.abbott.com/corpnewsroom/product-and-innovation/abbott-launches-novel-coronavirus-test.html) FDA approval of its coronavirus test. The company said it was "deploying 150,000 laboratory tests immediately" and was aiming to reach a million tests a week before the end of March.
Another major medical testing provider, Roche, announced (https://diagnostics.roche.com/us/en/news-listing/2020/roche-begins-shipments-of-first-400000-covid-19-tests-to-laboratories-across-US-to-begin-patient-testing-under-fda-emergency-use-authorization.html) on Monday that it was planning to ship out 400,000 tests. "The test kits are being sent to a network of more than 30 hospital and reference laboratories in the US that already have the required instrumentation in place and have the ability to implement high-volume testing immediately."
These are just two of many examples of US providers working to ramp up coronavirus testing capacity. With their help, the US will soon have far more coronavirus testing capacity than it has today."

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/03/america-is-finally-testing-for-coronavirus-in-significant-volumes/

Link includes a graph of the exponential increase in tests in the US. Just that one company is aiming to reach a million tests per week by the end of March which 140k+ per day. Hopefully this isn't bullshit. If not we'll quickly be out testing every country.

This is great news, tbh... anything that can help to quantify the problem will help with finding the proper solutions.

[Nathan89]

Police investigating teenagers coughing on produce at grocery store


https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/488610-police-investigating-teenagers-coughing-on-produce-at-grocery

We won't be able to match the results of some countries because we have more disrespectful idiots per capita tbh. It's one thing to lick ice cream like they did last year but coughing on produce during a pandemic really takes the cake. If this shit becomes a "thing" I'd welcome multi year prison sentences.

[Blake]

Grocery stores are more crowded than La Cantera.

Is that really the litmus test for you?

[Blake]

Picked up some groceries today. They have a max 10 people inside the store at any one time. Only waited ~5 mins to get in. First few days were crazy shit like you describe, but this works a lot better. We'll see how things work out

I went to HEB earlier today. Probably a couple hundred people. Everything still basically wiped out except for stuff like ketchup and motor oil. Plenty of milk and cereal though as if there's a concerted effort to make sure it's stocked.

The Plexi glass they erected in front of the cashier is incredibly retarded. It's about 18x24 and you step one foot to the right to pay with your credit card and you have a free and clear shot to sneeze on them. Especially when they turn to bag your groceries.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1241095922165129217?s=19

[baseline bum]

If shutting everything down for two weeks will effectively throw a speed bump at the viral spread, fine.

We need to get back to work, tho. Virus, or no virus.

Is the right wing media back to telling people this isn't very serious any more or something? Two weeks? Are you kidding me?

[hater]

Is the right wing media back to telling people this isn't very serious any more or something? Two weeks? Are you kidding me?

:lmao 2 weeks

[TimDunkem]

Lol Two weeks. What is this? Did I travel back in time?

[hater]

“dont mind our humvees and military convoys. theres absolutely no reason to worry”

https://twitter.com/MDNG/status/1241131364109422593?s=20

[TimDunkem]

:lmao 2 weeks

No shit. People like Darrin is why this shit wasn't contained. Mutha fuckas always 3 steps behind.

[hater]

China already bracing for a 2nd wave too

thisisfine.gif

[boutons_deux]

Trump Told Governors to Buy Own Virus Supplies, Then Outbid Them

(BLUE) Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker told Trump during a video conference on Thursday that

his state three times lost out to the federal government on purchases of critical supplies,

The president replied he still wants governors to seek out their own medical equipment, like protective gear for doctors and nurses as well as respirators, but acknowledged the federal government has greater buying power than any state.

Pence :lol responded that “we want to facilitate all the states and the health care providers in your states to be able to access that supply chain as it becomes more robust.” :lol

the onus should be on the states -- and not the federal government -- to obtain needed equipment to combat the pandemic, saying

his administration is not a “shipping clerk” for the supplies that could potentially save lives.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-19/trump-told-governors-to-buy-own-virus-supplies-then-outbid-them

btw, red FL got everything it asked from the Feds.

Yes, I full suspect that Trash is buying up medical supplies to give to red states, and deny/punish blue states.

[boutons_deux]

Layoffs Due to Pandemic Closures Overwhelm State, Area Workforce Agencies

The Texas Workforce Commission (TWC)

usually sees about 10,000 daily visitors to its website but had

40,000 visits on Tuesday and

50,000 on Wednesday, according to a TWC spokesman.

Other states, from New York to Oregon (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/19/unemployment-insurance-today-coronavirus/), reported similar crashes and long waits at agency offices.

https://therivardreport.com/layoffs-due-to-pandemic-closures-overwhelm-state-area-workforce-agencies/?utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter-daily&utm_content=editorial&utm_term=busdev&utm_source=Rivard+Report&utm_campaign=8bcd189fbc-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_12_21_07_19_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1576c62124-8bcd189fbc-84683437&mc_cid=8bcd189fbc&mc_eid=54a5432c74

[boutons_deux]

BANKS PRESSURE HEALTH CARE FIRMS TO RAISE PRICES ON CRITICAL DRUGS, MEDICAL SUPPLIES FOR CORONAVIRUS

the largest voices in the health care industry stand to gain from billions of dollars in emergency spending on the pandemic, as do the bankers and investors who invest in health care companies.

Over the past few weeks,

investment bankers have been candid on investor calls and during health care conferences about the opportunity to raise drug prices.

a managing director at Barclays Investment Bank, last week peppered executives from Cardinal Health, a health care distributor of N95 masks, ventilators and pharmaceuticals, on whether the company would raise prices on a range of supplies.

Valiquette asked repeatedly about potential price increases on a variety of products.

“one positive” about the coronavirus would be a “silver lining” that Cardinal Health may receive “less questions” about opioid-related lawsuits.

AmerisourceBergen, noted that his company has been actively involved in efforts to push back against political demands to limit the price of pharmaceutical products.

https://theintercept.com/2020/03/19/coronavirus-vaccine-medical-supplies-price-gouging/ (https://theintercept.com/2020/03/19/coronavirus-vaccine-medical-supplies-price-gouging/)

[hater]

also this is a big possibility. no way governments tell you this possibility because people would absolutely freak out

https://twitter.com/rinchupeco/status/1239016055739011073?s=21

you should be using all this time to prepare for the 2nd wave tbqh

[Nathan89]

In a month we'll have mass testing capabilities beyond any country and be on the back end of this first wave. So if South Korea's strategy was a difference maker we should be able to move more towards that. I mean the goal of not overwhelming the hospitals should be achieved with mass testing which is all you can aim for.

[DMC]

So how many here are considered "non-essential"?

[Thread]

In a month we'll have mass testing capabilities beyond any country and be on the back end of this first wave. So if South Korea's strategy was a difference maker we should be able to move more towards that. I mean the goal of not overwhelming the hospitals should be achieved with mass testing which is all you can aim for.

HTF are you going to accomplish this (mass testing), Nathan? Is our gov't going to force us at the point of the National Guard, or, U.S. military personnel?

[CosmicCowboy]

Trump Told Governors to Buy Own Virus Supplies, Then Outbid Them

(BLUE) Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker told Trump during a video conference on Thursday that his state three times lost out to the federal government on purchases of critical supplies,

The president replied he still wants governors to seek out their own medical equipment, like protective gear for doctors and nurses as well as respirators, but acknowledged the federal government has greater buying power than any state.

Pence :lol responded that “we want to facilitate all the states and the health care providers in your states to be able to access that supply chain as it becomes more robust.” :lol

the onus should be on the states -- and not the federal government -- to obtain needed equipment to combat the pandemic, saying

his administration is not a “shipping clerk” for the supplies that could potentially save lives.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-19/trump-told-governors-to-buy-own-virus-supplies-then-outbid-them

btw, red FL got everything it asked from the Feds.

Yes, I full suspect that Trash is buying up medical supplies to give to red states, and deny/punish blue states.





Elections have consequences :lol

[Nathan89]

also this is a big possibility. no way governments tell you this possibility because people would absolutely freak out

https://twitter.com/rinchupeco/status/1239016055739011073?s=21

you should be using all this time to prepare for the 2nd wave tbqh

There will be more smaller waves with this because we are taking mass action. I know nothing about Spanish flu but I assume everyone got scared during the first wave and many isolated themselves and when they came out the 2nd wave came. We are currently taking mass action preventing the size per wave.

[Nathan89]

HTF are you going to accomplish this (mass testing), Nathan? Is our gov't going to force us at the point of the National Guard, or, U.S. military personnel?

Have no fear, Thread. Just tell them "my body my choice". Most people will be willing to take the test but I know a non insignificant portion won't. If you encounter someone that tests positive and are unwilling to take the test you'll probably need to self isolate to make sure. The system doesn't have to be air tight. It just needs to prevent the hospitals from getting rushed. An "air tight" system like China is not even preferable.

[boutons_deux]

Elections have consequences :lol

yep, disloyal to Trash? he will kill you and that's hilarious :lol

and oligarchy's Repug whores, will sicken and kill you, too, by increasing pollution of every kind, by dropping meat factory inspections, etc. hilarious! :lol :lol

[Thread]

also this is a big possibility. no way governments tell you this possibility because people would absolutely freak out

https://twitter.com/rinchupeco/status/1239016055739011073?s=21

you should be using all this time to prepare for the 2nd wave tbqh

The Spanish flu killed over a quarter million people (275k) in this country in 1917.
The Spanish flu killed over a half billion people (500 million) worldwide.

[picnroll]

Is that really the litmus test for you?

Whole Foods and Target have set aside an early morning hour solely for people at risk, elderly, immunocompromised, pregnant ( though I haven’t seen where they're at risk).

[Thread]

Oh, & just so we don't forget & so we remember:::

No longer 8k, but, now 23k dead of regular flu so far in 2020 in this country.

[Thread]

Whole Foods and Target have set aside an early morning hour solely for people at risk, elderly, immunocompromised, pregnant ( though I haven’t seen where they're at risk).

Forget it, those early elder hours are a disaster. The line extends around the building, then you're body-to-body with fellow elders once you get in there. I left, drove a half mile to WalMart and shopped in peace. No toilet paper at either store, but, every thing else was in stock.

[picnroll]

This is great news, tbh... anything that can help to quantify the problem will help with finding the proper solutions.

Still short swabs.

[Thread]

Still short swabs.

Bend over. I'll give ya a fuckin' short swab.

[Nathan89]

Whole Foods and Target have set aside an early morning hour solely for people at risk, elderly, immunocompromised, pregnant ( though I haven’t seen where they're at risk).

A virus while pregnant often leads to autism. It's worth taking extra precautions in the unknown.

[picnroll]

Forget it, those early elder hours are a disaster. The line extends around the building, then you're body-to-body with fellow elders once you get in there. I left, drove a half mile to WalMart and shopped in peace. No toilet paper at either store, but, every thing else was in stock.
Don’t know about Target but went to the Quarry Whole Foods this morning at about 7:10 . No lines no crowds, maybe 20 people in the store at most. Open for at risks everyday from 7:00 to 8:00 AM. If you or someone you knows is at risk tell them. Of course then it might get crowded.

One added advantage I’m assuming is that people who’ve gone the at risk hours are problem at risks that have been self quarantining.
Just have to run past the cashier. :lol

[boutons_deux]

The main messages from SK and Italy are social isolation and voluminous, frequent testing.

Fox/OAN/rightwing hate media are downplaying the risk for their old, white, decrepit viewers who are at highest risk of death (20%)

Masks only for the infected and for health workers-

If you're not infected but your mask succeeds in protecting you, then touching your infected mask, setting it down on touched surface, infects you and others.

iow, you're wasting masks which are in short supply, AND you are infected.

[vy65]

also this is a big possibility. no way governments tell you this possibility because people would absolutely freak out

https://twitter.com/rinchupeco/status/1239016055739011073?s=21

you should be using all this time to prepare for the 2nd wave tbqh

Because we've made no medical progress in the past 102 years. Apt analogy.

[Spurs Homer]

HTF are you going to accomplish this (mass testing), Nathan? Is our gov't going to force us at the point of the National Guard, or, U.S. military personnel?


one LESS vote for trump is a good tradeoff

rip

[vy65]

HTF are you going to accomplish this (mass testing), Nathan? Is our gov't going to force us at the point of the National Guard, or, U.S. military personnel?

I'll drag your ass down to court, cubby. Me and me alone. And I'll have the ole honorable judge eating out of my hand, juices a-flowin' and all primed up and ready to authorize my request to get you tested against your will. Me.

[boutons_deux]

Because we've made no medical progress in the past 102 years. Apt analogy.

the 2009 H1N1 in USA had an earlier, broad peak, then a sharp spike later

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/WhoLab18.GIF

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States#/media/File:WhoLab18.GIF (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States#/media/File:WhoLab18.GIF)

If we take the 2009 H1N1 pandemic (under a serious Dem administration) in USA as a guideline,

then the higher transmissibility and much higher mortality of covid-19 under a mortal joke of a Repug kakistocracy says USA is in for a real shit show

[vy65]

the 2009 H1N1 in USA had an earlier, broad peak, then a sharp spike later

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/WhoLab18.GIF

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States#/media/File:WhoLab18.GIF (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States#/media/File:WhoLab18.GIF)

If we take the 2009 H1N1 pandemic (under a serious Dem administration) in USA as a guideline,

then the higher transmissibility and much higher mortality of covid-19 under an mortal joke of a Repug kakistocracy says USA is in for a real shit show




How many US citizens died from Spanish Flu in 1918? How many died in 2009 from H1N1?

[TSA]

Evidence over hysteria — COVID-19

https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine/evidence-over-hysteria-covid-19-1b767def5894

More world wide data gathered in one article than I’ve seen anywhere else. His numbers give some hope that it’s not as bad as the media has been selling it. Hope he’s correct.

[picnroll]

Bend over. I'll give ya a fuckin' short swab.

Only if I get to cough on you.

[Thread]

How many US citizens died from Spanish Flu in 1918? How many died in 2009 from H1N1?

275k from Spanish Flu.
12.5k from H1N1.
23k dead from regular flu so far in '20.
264 from Corona.

[Thread]

I have to admit I'm loving Gov. Cuomo in New York. My first assessment of his daily new conference was wrong. He's for real. It's a treat. The goods.

A couple days ago:::"We're driving in and we look over and there's kids playing pick-up basketball. That's wrong."

lol!!!

[picnroll]

275k from Spanish Flu.
12.5k from H1N1.
23k dead from regular flu so far in '20.
264 from Corona.
So it’s 275k needed to make you happy?

[boutons_deux]

U.S. intelligence reports from January and February warned about a likely pandemic

U.S. intelligence agencies (aka the hated Deep State) were issuing

ominous, classified warnings in January and February

about the global danger posed by the coronavirus (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/02/28/what-you-need-know-about-coronavirus/?tid=lk_inline_manual_1&itid=lk_inline_manual_1) while President Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread of the pathogen

they did track the spread of the virus in China, and later in other countries, and warned that

Chinese officials appeared to be minimizing the severity of the outbreak.

the characteristics of a globe-encircling pandemic that could

require governments to take swift actions to contain it.

But despite that constant flow of reporting,

Trump continued publicly and privately to play down the threat the virus posed to Americans.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/us-intelligence-reports-from-january-and-february-warned-about-a-likely-pandemic/2020/03/20/299d8cda-6ad5-11ea-b5f1-a5a804158597_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/us-intelligence-reports-from-january-and-february-warned-about-a-likely-pandemic/2020/03/20/299d8cda-6ad5-11ea-b5f1-a5a804158597_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most)

Pathological self-importance has consequences

[pgardn]

We appear to want to follow the Italian statistics in some of the more densely populated cities.

this is not a good thing

[DarrinS]

Evidence over hysteria — COVID-19

https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine/evidence-over-hysteria-covid-19-1b767def5894

More world wide data gathered in one article than I’ve seen anywhere else. His numbers give some hope that it’s not as bad as the media has been selling it. Hope he’s correct.


Was about to post this. :tu

[boutons_deux]

In hard-hit areas, testing restricted to health care workers, hospital patients

Health officials direct scarce resources where they are needed most to save people’s lives.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/21/coronavirus-testing-strategyshift/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/21/coronavirus-testing-strategyshift/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most)

... again, simple and directly because Trash and his sycophantic kakistocracy FUCKED UP MORTALLY

[pgardn]

Evidence over hysteria — COVID-19

https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine/evidence-over-hysteria-covid-19-1b767def5894

More world wide data gathered in one article than I’ve seen anywhere else. His numbers give some hope that it’s not as bad as the media has been selling it. Hope he’s correct.

so your source is not media?
what is it?

[Thread]

So it’s 275k needed to make you happy?

No, "you'd" be happy at that #.
I'm happy at 264.

[pgardn]

Can anyone identify “the media “?

[TSA]

so your source is not media?
what is it?

Don’t be obtuse, of course what I posted was “media”

His sources (include CDC, WHO, NIH, NHS, University of Oxford, Stanford, Harvard, NEJM, JAMA, and several others)

[Thread]

Can anyone identify “the media “?

Yes, a "profession" where you don't have to show your work. Just blurt it out under the guise of "my source" & they can say & report anything under the sun.

[Monostradamus]

Yes, a "profession" where you don't have to show your work. Just blurt it out under the guise of "my source" & they can say & report anything under the sun.
Fox News included, or do they report with integrity?

[midnightpulp]

Evidence over hysteria — COVID-19

https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine/evidence-over-hysteria-covid-19-1b767def5894

More world wide data gathered in one article than I’ve seen anywhere else. His numbers give some hope that it’s not as bad as the media has been selling it. Hope he’s correct.

Didn't read the article yet, but I already intuitively agree with it. I want to stress that we do need to take all precautions necessary (limited social interaction, hygiene, etc) to limit spread and give healthcare a chance to catch up, but the media isn't offering enough counterpoints to the "doom and gloom" scenarios. As I've said in many posts, the mortality rate looks scary when you simply divide deaths by confirmed cases, but it stands to reason there's tens of thousands of unconfirmed cases out there where those persons probably had zero-to-very mild symptoms and have already recovered (Italy was only testing people who exhibited severe symptoms). Our current mortality rate in that regard is 1.2 percent. But what if the virus in reality is 5x as prevalent as the confirmed case count, the mortality rate is around flu levels, which people would emotionally be more comfortable with.

I also think the general populace is under the impression that the stay at home orders and such mean that this virus is so deadly, you need to check out of society or face certain death, when it's just about the oft-repeated "flattening the curve."