Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[hater]

Yup

Here it is :lol


Probably going to be hard to beat Trump. Using CDC numbers, Biden will only murder 282k under my best case deaths to go scenario. It's an overly optimistic scenario but it doesn't factor in the Trump vaccines, so Sleepy should be able to stay under Trump unless he completely fucks up.

You all over the place ma nig

[hater]

My call stands

Nearing 600k by april and if UK and SA strains takes hold of us. God help us. We might see 100k dead a month for the next 3,4 months

[Dirks_Finale]

My call stands

Nearing 600k by april and if UK and SA strains takes hold of us. God help us. We might see 100k dead a month for the next 3,4 months

So the early data from the newest variants seems to suggest that the vaccine is still effective, but not nearly as effective. Maybe 50% or so.

I guess the anti-vaxers will keep this thing around and mutating longer than it needs to be.

[SnakeBoy]

You all over the place ma nig

Nope. You're just confused about what I said. I told you it would be hard for Biden to beat Trump's body count



I admit I may be wrong but I believe enough of the 65+ age group will be vaccinated soon enough to keep the Biden Covid-19 body count below Trumps. The vaccines are still completely or largely effective against the variety of variants we are seeing.


Trump's body count was 400k. It will be hard for Biden to match that. 200k<400k.

That's strictly talking about Sars-CoV-2. What Sars-CoV-3 is going to do under Biden idk, we have no data yet.

[DarrinS]

If you died from first wave of covid, the new variants will kill you worse the second time.

True story

[hater]

Nope. You're just confused about what I said. I told you it would be hard for Biden to beat Trump's body count



Trump's body count was 400k. It will be hard for Biden to match that. 200k<400k.

That's strictly talking about Sars-CoV-2. What Sars-CoV-3 is going to do under Biden idk, we have no data yet.

You are not making much sense

You said its a great bet Biden will reach 200k carcasses by april 2021. That means he still has over 40 months of presidency to kill americans. You really think he will only kilm 90k in the next 40 or so months?????

Absolutely does not make sense at all.

And :lol at starting to say "well I didnt mean covid 21 or 22" :lmao

[Winehole23]

If you died from first wave of covid, the new variants will kill you worse the second time.

True storyYou're not the only person who's grateful to be alive, Darrin.

[SnakeBoy]

You are not making much sense

You said its a great bet Biden will reach 200k carcasses by april 2021. That means he still has over 40 months of presidency to kill americans. You really think he will only kilm 90k in the next 40 or so months?????

Absolutely does not make sense at all.

And :lol at starting to say "well I didnt mean covid 21 or 22" :lmao

We have effective Trump vaccines for this virus so Biden isn't going to keep racking up the body count for this virus for 40 months.

When the virus escapes immunity it will be given a different name and the count starts over. You can't lump them all together. Sorry, that's just the way they do it. I don't make the rules and neither do you. None of us know what the mortality of the new virus will be. Could stay the same, could become the common cold, or could be 10 times higher mortality. It's just random luck of the draw.

[hater]

We have effective Trump vaccines for this virus so Biden isn't going to keep racking up the body count for this virus for 40 months.

When the virus escapes immunity it will be given a different name and the count starts over. You can't lump them all together. Sorry, that's just the way they do it. I don't make the rules and neither do you. None of us know what the mortality of the new virus will be. Could stay the same, could become the common cold, or could be 10 times higher mortality. It's just random luck of the draw.

Nope. Covid in 2020 will be covid in 2030

Biden is gonna eclipse Trump

[ElNono]

Fauci: Trump administration's Covid strategy 'very likely did' cost lives
“When you start talking about things that make no sense medically and no sense scientifically, that clearly is not helpful,” said Fauci.

The Trump administration’s lack of candor and habitual breaks with scientific guidance in its pandemic response “very likely did” cost lives, Anthony Fauci said Friday morning.

“When you start talking about things that make no sense medically and no sense scientifically, that clearly is not helpful,” Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told CNN Friday.

“There's no secret, we've had a lot of divisiveness, we've had facts that were very, very clear, that were questioned,” Fauci said. “People were not trusting what health officials were saying. There was great divisiveness, masking became a political issue.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/22/anthony-fauci-trump-coronavirus-response-461272

[DarrinS]

Fauci: Trump administration's Covid strategy 'very likely did' cost lives
“When you start talking about things that make no sense medically and no sense scientifically, that clearly is not helpful,” said Fauci.

The Trump administration’s lack of candor and habitual breaks with scientific guidance in its pandemic response “very likely did” cost lives, Anthony Fauci said Friday morning.

“When you start talking about things that make no sense medically and no sense scientifically, that clearly is not helpful,” Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told CNN Friday.

“There's no secret, we've had a lot of divisiveness, we've had facts that were very, very clear, that were questioned,” Fauci said. “People were not trusting what health officials were saying. There was great divisiveness, masking became a political issue.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/22/anthony-fauci-trump-coronavirus-response-461272




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRa6t_e7dgI

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao Karrin still semen shielding

[ElNono]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRa6t_e7dgI

What's this response supposed to mean, tbh?

[TDMVPDPOY]

the vaccine rollout, illegals in america also getting the free jab?

[pgardn]

the vaccine rollout, illegals in america also getting the free jab?

they should.

And well into both sides of the border if necessary.

[hater]

:lmao Joe surrenders to the virus 3 days into his presidency


https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1352712446901936129?s=20

He said he has a plan until 2 days ago :lol

[ducks]

Bill Maher: Now that Trump is gone, 'We can't blame everything on him'
The HBO star suggested 'we'll find out' in the next 100 days if Trump was really 'the bad guy' during COVID

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRa6t_e7dgI
march 2020 "right now, people shouldnt be walking around with masks"

"you should think of healthcare providers needing them, and people being ill"

"it can lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it"

but of course, darrin knows that time stood still after march 2020 so no circumstances ever changed, nor did recommendations. seriously darrin, why do you keep going back to these march 2020 clips when you know better? im actually curious because i dont want to believe that you're as braindead as derp (or hell, even DMC who does the same thing)

[Adam Lambert]

Not sure why anyone would be defensive about Trump's COVID response at this point, but every criticism is still a bat signal to certain posters who feel compelled to rush to his aid as though their own integrity depends on it.

[hater]

march 2020 "right now, people shouldnt be walking around with masks"

"you should think of healthcare providers needing them, and people being ill"

"it can lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it"

but of course, darrin knows that time stood still after march 2020 so no circumstances ever changed, nor did recommendations. seriously darrin, why do you keep going back to these march 2020 clips when you know better? im actually curious because i dont want to believe that you're as braindead as derp (or hell, even DMC who does the same thing)

Faucis no mask advice most likely cost american lives. Theres no way to spin that, Nancy

[hater]

Amsterdam under lockdown to control the spike.

Protests start....

https://twitter.com/acczibit/status/1352969564896825345?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

Amsterdam under lockdown to control the spike.

Protests start....

https://twitter.com/acczibit/status/1352969564896825345?s=19:lol you haven't posted any of the Russian protests.

[hater]

:lol you haven't posted any of the Russian protests.

Navalny? I also dont post on pro Guaido protests in Venezuela :lol

I dont care about protests pro CIA assets tbqh

I did hear the US embassy posted protest maps and paths and locations in Moscow :lol

I can just imagine if Russian embassy had done that on January 6 :lmao

[boutons_deux]

From Boston Globe email
https://ci4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/UXpwnFZJaMYL5KUmt9p_4vyi40Lz96G9RNDOXEq0m_gAC7Jpwu G7_AhyotTWTCVXCx2mlr2ZXz2oVdQetoNGAhipsrh8-E7aXrrJi59PIdfGDj_ZQlNvt4fBhyCzsLs4KE0QWD8ktC7CNQ3 90zxyDHPwPxCBOg=s0-d-e1-ft#https://mcusercontent.com/90f9e490a860897c7155feca1/images/94bc2279-950c-4400-8c44-5a821186c151.png






Is it time to start wearing two masks? Some experts recommend it










With the pandemic still raging in the United States and the arrival of a rapid-spreading coronavirus variant,

some experts have recommended wearing two masks.

The idea has been gaining traction. If you looked closely at President Biden’s inauguration this week, you could see some prominent double-maskers.

Biden himself has worn two masks.

But you can also see people walking down the street who have adopted the practice.

[ChumpDumper]

Navalny? I also dont post on pro Guaido protests in Venezuela :lol

I dont care about protests pro CIA assets tbqh

I did hear the US embassy posted protest maps and paths and locations in Moscow :lol

I can just imagine if Russian embassy had done that on January 6 :lmaoI'm sorry this is happening to you.

[SnakeBoy]

https://cov-lineages.org/global_report.html

[ElNono]

march 2020 "right now, people shouldnt be walking around with masks"

"you should think of healthcare providers needing them, and people being ill"

"it can lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it"

but of course, darrin knows that time stood still after march 2020 so no circumstances ever changed, nor did recommendations. seriously darrin, why do you keep going back to these march 2020 clips when you know better? im actually curious because i dont want to believe that you're as braindead as derp (or hell, even DMC who does the same thing)

Yeah, that's why I asked what we were supposed to get from that.

[ElNono]

Faucis no mask advice most likely cost american lives. Theres no way to spin that, Nancy

Nobody is spinning that. Unfortunately, due to the administration's complete bungling of obtaining proper PPE for healthcare workers, the question was which american lives had to be prioritized, healthcare workers or regular people.

[spurraider21]

Yeah, that's why I asked what we were supposed to get from that.
Barring further explanation from Karrin the only thing we can get from that is he deserves to be lumped in with derp

[DarrinS]

Yeah, that's why I asked what we were supposed to get from that.

When you send mixed messages (and I'm being generous with that description), you lose credibility.

Fauci has done the same with respect to herd immunity thresholds

1342085152739090434

[hater]

Nobody is spinning that. Unfortunately, due to the administration's complete bungling of obtaining proper PPE for healthcare workers, the question was which american lives had to be prioritized, healthcare workers or regular people.

Fauci should have said that no citizens should wear n95 masks as its not necessary. But its ok or even encouraged to wear face coverings.

He didnt.

He actually said covering your face with anything is actually WORSE

fuck that lying little midget bitch.

[ElNono]

When you send mixed messages (and I'm being generous with that description), you lose credibility.

Fauci has done the same with respect to herd immunity thresholds

1342085152739090434

They're not mixed messages, IMO. In March 2020, the priority for masks was for healthcare workers. When that situation was taken care of, then we can start recommending for everyone.

Exactly the same thing with this. As new information is available, then the reasonable thing is to update your outlook on things.

I much rather stick with a doctor that keeps up with the latest developments than somebody stuck to old shit because faith or dogma.

[hater]

They're not mixed messages, IMO. In March 2020, the priority for masks was for healthcare workers. When that situation was taken care of, then we can start recommending for everyone.

Exactly the same thing with this. As new information is available, then the reasonable thing is to update your outlook on things.

I much rather stick with a doctor that keeps up with the latest developments than somebody stuck to old shit because faith or dogma.

Bullshit

No healthcare workers needed a cloth or paper mask. Yet Fauci said they are worse than no mask

[ElNono]

Fauci should have said that no citizens should wear n95 masks as its not necessary. But its ok or even encouraged to wear face coverings.

He didnt.

He actually said covering your face with anything is actually WORSE

fuck that lying little midget bitch.

He specifically said 'Right now' and specifically mentioned the prioritization of masks for healthcare workers.

I also make no claims he is ever and forever right, either. But it's important to understand the context on when he was saying things. Back then in March '20, we didn't even know with certainty how the virus spread.

To be fair to him, nobody takes that into account when they re-post old videos.

[ElNono]

Bullshit

No healthcare workers needed a cloth or paper mask. Yet Fauci said they are worse than no mask

:lol of course they did

Who can forget NY handing out Yankees ponchos as PPE back then.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/04/01/17/26685152-0-image-a-10_1585757167148.jpg

[Winehole23]

Navalny? I also dont post on pro Guaido protests in Venezuela :lol

I dont care about protests pro CIA assets tbqh

I did hear the US embassy posted protest maps and paths and locations in Moscow :lol

I can just imagine if Russian embassy had done that on January 6 :lmaodoes the CIA have an outpost in Yakutsk?

1353011975131967490

[hater]

:lol of course they did

Who can forget NY handing out Yankees ponchos as PPE back then.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/04/01/17/26685152-0-image-a-10_1585757167148.jpg

And you are saying that had Fauci said everyon3 should wearbmasks those ponchos would not have been available to the doctors??

No.

Fauci lied and cost lives. And he did not need to lie.

[ElNono]

And you are saying that had Fauci said everyon3 should wearbmasks those ponchos would not have been available to the doctors??

No.

No, I'm saying there was a general shortage of PPE, including masks, for healthcare personnel at the time.

It was so damn terrible, by April (a month after that video), FEMA was stealing masks from Europe (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/mask-wars-coronavirus-outbidding-demand), and even our own states (https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/27/politics/michigan-governor-medical-supplies-cnntv/index.html) and counties (https://www.newjerseyhills.com/echoes-sentinel/news/somerset-county-ordered-35-000-medical-masks-the-federal-government-seized-the-whole-order/article_97ad57a6-004c-53c8-8451-e85a124d35ba.html).


Fauci lied and cost lives. And he did not need to lie.

Never said he did not. He was simply in the terrible position of having to pick between the life of regular americans or healthcare workers, and he wisely picked the latter.

[boutons_deux]

No, I'm saying there was a general shortage of PPE, including masks, for healthcare personnel at the time.

It was so damn terrible, by April (a month after that video), FEMA was stealing masks from Europe (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/mask-wars-coronavirus-outbidding-demand), and even our own states (https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/27/politics/michigan-governor-medical-supplies-cnntv/index.html) and counties (https://www.newjerseyhills.com/echoes-sentinel/news/somerset-county-ordered-35-000-medical-masks-the-federal-government-seized-the-whole-order/article_97ad57a6-004c-53c8-8451-e85a124d35ba.html).


Never said he did not. He was simply in the terrible position of having to pick between the life of regular americans or healthcare workers, and he wisely picked the latter.

Fauci was in a bad position through no fault of his own, even without Trash pressuing to actually LIE

He couldn't say "Everybody should wear masks but health care workers the most" would have caused the public to make run on masks.

peanut-gallery, ankle-biting ST assholes with no responsibility for anything accuse Fauci of lying.

[hater]

No, I'm saying there was a general shortage of PPE, including masks, for healthcare personnel at the time.

It was so damn terrible, by April (a month after that video), FEMA was stealing masks from Europe (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/mask-wars-coronavirus-outbidding-demand), and even our own states (https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/27/politics/michigan-governor-medical-supplies-cnntv/index.html) and counties (https://www.newjerseyhills.com/echoes-sentinel/news/somerset-county-ordered-35-000-medical-masks-the-federal-government-seized-the-whole-order/article_97ad57a6-004c-53c8-8451-e85a124d35ba.html).



Never said he did not. He was simply in the terrible position of having to pick between the life of regular americans or healthcare workers, and he wisely picked the latter.

You keep saying he picked to save healthcare workers lives by telling everyone masks dont work. Thats just not true. The paper masks, bandanas, cloth masks that americans use have nothing to do with the PPE masks that healthcare workers use.

[SnakeBoy]

Never said he did not. He was simply in the terrible position of having to pick between the life of regular americans or healthcare workers, and he wisely picked the latter.

He could have just said regular americans should make cloth masks.

[ElNono]

You keep saying he picked to save healthcare workers lives by telling everyone masks dont work. Thats just not true. The paper masks, bandanas, cloth masks that americans use have nothing to do with the PPE masks that healthcare workers use.

Bandanas and cloth masks are not recommended either, afaik. Last time I was at the doctor's office, they handed wifey a paper mask to replace/put on top of her cloth mask.

Could he had said to wear paper masks? sure. But at the time everyone was digging for N95s, coz nobody knew just how bad this thing was.

[hater]

He could have just said regular americans should make cloth masks.

Bingo.

[hater]

Bandanas and cloth masks are not recommended either, afaik. Last time I was at the doctor's office, they handed wifey a paper mask to replace/put on top of her cloth mask.

Could he had said to wear paper masks? sure. But at the time everyone was digging for N95s, coz nobody knew just how bad this thing was.

Incorrect.

Any face covering is recommended over no covering.

N95s became unavailable to public pretty early on. Rightfully so. The people that were getting or trying to get n95s knew Fauci was lying. But again they became unavailable so noone could get them except doctors.

So again. There was absolutely no reason for Fauci to lie and say face coverings are bad. He killed countless ppl with that lie.

[ElNono]

Incorrect.

Any face covering is recommended over no covering.

N95s became unavailable to public pretty early on. Rightfully so. The people that were getting or trying to get n95s knew Fauci was lying. But again they became unavailable so noone could get them except doctors.

So again. There was absolutely no reason for Fauci to lie and say face coverings are bad. He killed countless ppl with that lie.


Except he didn't say they were bad, not in that video anyways. He said, as SR21 noted, "right now, people shouldnt be walking around with masks" and "you should think of healthcare providers needing them, and people being ill".

Again, easy to move the goalposts, but what he said at the time, at least in that video, wasn't anything outrageous.

[hater]

Except he didn't say they were bad, not in that video anyways. He said, as SR21 noted, "right now, people shouldnt be walking around with masks" and "you should think of healthcare providers needing them, and people being ill".

Again, easy to move the goalposts, but what he said at the time, at least in that video, wasn't anything outrageous.

Well he lied. He admitted he lied. Either that or hes a stupid fuck who didnt understand the masks should be worn in public so infected dont spread the virus.

"People should not be wearing masks. It gives them a false sense of security and they are gonna fiddle and touch their face" :lmao those words actually came.out of that fuckface :lol

:lol stupid fucking moron

[ChumpDumper]

No results found for "People should not be wearing masks. It gives them a false sense of security and they are gonna fiddle and touch their face".

[hater]

No results found for "People should not be wearing masks. It gives them a false sense of security and they are gonna fiddle and touch their face".

In the clip, Dr Fauci says “There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-fauci-outdated-video-masks-idUSKBN26T2TR


Lol chump

[ChumpDumper]

In the clip, Dr Fauci says “There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-fauci-outdated-video-masks-idUSKBN26T2TR


Lol chumpRight, don't use quotation marks if you're not going to post a quote.:tu

:lmao Fact check: Outdated video of Fauci saying “there’s no reason to be walking around with a mask”

[hater]

Right, don't use quotation marks if you're not going to post a quote.:tu

:lmao Fact check: Outdated video of Fauci saying “there’s no reason to be walking around with a mask”

Im sorry this is happening to you

[ElNono]

In the clip, Dr Fauci says “There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-fauci-outdated-video-masks-idUSKBN26T2TR

Lol chump

The video clip is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRa6t_e7dgI

Was posted in an earlier post.

First thing he says on the video is "the masks are important, for somebody who's infected to prevent infecting somebody else". Followed by "Right now, in the United States, people shouldn't be walking around with masks".

So:
1) Didn't say masks don't work. He actually said the exact opposite.

2) He clearly said "right now". You can certainly disagree that's good advice at that particular time, I have no beef with that, but clearly he was speaking around the time the interview was made (March 2020).

[ElNono]

Venezuela Announces Effective Medicine Against COVID-19

Authorities said that the drug “has shown 100 percent inhibition of virus replication in vitro.”

Venezuela’s President Nicolas Maduro Sunday announced the discovery of a high-effective treatment capable of eliminating COVID-19 and pointed out that a drug will be presented to the World Health Organization (WHO) for certification.

The treatment, based on a molecule called TR-10, was designed by the Venezuelan Institute for Scientific Research (IVIC), which had been working on a cure for the past six months.

"this molecule has been tested for COVID-19, all the research has been done. This study lasted 6 months, resulting in 100 percent annihilation of the virus", Maduro said.

Maduro congratulated the IVIC on “this great contribution to humanity” and assured that Venezuela will offer this treatment to the world. He also pointed out that the mass production of the drug will be facilitated through “international alliances.”

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/venezuela-announces-effective-medicine-against-covid-19-20201026-0008.html

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"Goticas milagrosas" :lmao:lmao:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Im sorry this is happening to youSorry you're trying to live in March like foldren.

[pgardn]

Hater is one of the most prolific on this board at twisting information to suit his needs.

Assad did not use gas on anyone, it was the US and it’s CIA led rebels.
Assad and Putin know how to lead , just like Trump, try the authoritarian style, it’s the best system.
Look at my dudes in Central and South America to see how it’s done.

[Winehole23]

South Africa travel ban announced, UK and EU travel bans to remain in place.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9182389/Biden-scrap-Trumps-lifting-COVID-19-travel-ban-targeting-UK-Europe-Brazil.html

[hater]

South Africa travel ban announced, UK and EU travel bans to remain in place.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9182389/Biden-scrap-Trumps-lifting-COVID-19-travel-ban-targeting-UK-Europe-Brazil.html

I called for this last week. Old Joe is a few days late but oh well Ill take it :tu

Looks like these strains are the real deal. Bojo is mentioning forcing travell3rs to quarantine in specialized hotels. I believe Joe will have to implement this as well. For non citizens to start with imo. Theres no time to waste on this. Hopefully sleepy joe wakes up.

[boutons_deux]

Amid covid health worker shortage,
foreign-trained professionals sit on sidelines

a large, highly skilled workforce of foreign-educated doctors, nurses and other health practitioners is going largely untapped due to licensing and credentialing barriers.


165,000 foreign-trained immigrants in the U.S. hold degrees in health-related fields but

are unemployed or underemployed in the midst of the health crisis.

Many of these workers have invaluable experience dealing with infectious disease epidemics such as SARS, Ebola or HIV in other countries yet must sit out the covid pandemic.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210125/Amid-covid-health-worker-shortage-foreign-trained-professionals-sit-on-sidelines.aspx

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/54/4a/37/544a37057f1e4402e89f2ae21bf93d40.gif

[hater]

CA gov looks like is giving up.

Going for that herd immunity

https://twitter.com/aidan_smx/status/1353572394695180293?s=19

[hater]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/HappyHarryMedia/status/1352651477953740805?s=19

[hater]

Well...


https://twitter.com/martinmorrey/status/1353312092095438851?s=19

[hater]

Reports of partially vaccinated people contracting Covid may also erode confidence in the vaccines, Eckerle said: “If we fail to use this vaccine in a good way, it will damage the whole field of vaccinology for many, many years, I think.”

Stephen Goldstein, a virologist at the University of Utah who specializes in coronaviruses, said that taking Britain’s approach at a time of limited supply of vaccine could create other problems.

“If we vaccinate everybody with one dose and … six weeks later, the efficacy is now like 30% and we don’t have the doses to boost them at that point because we’ve used up their second doses on another round of first doses, it’s a disaster potentially,” he said.

[hater]

We are basically making up shit as we go and the potential for disastrous consequences is real

[Winehole23]

Gavin Newsome says it's ok for Californians to get sick and die some more. Gotta keep those cash registers ringing.

1353753348051259394

[pgardn]

I called for this last week. Old Joe is a few days late but oh well Ill take it :tu

Looks like these strains are the real deal. Bojo is mentioning forcing travell3rs to quarantine in specialized hotels. I believe Joe will have to implement this as well. For non citizens to start with imo. Theres no time to waste on this. Hopefully sleepy joe wakes up.

what does real deal mean?

[Winehole23]

We are basically making up shit as we go and the potential for disastrous consequences is realImperfect state of knowledge. Gotta do the best you can, there will be mistakes.

Hopeully vaccine supply will permit more of a mass vaccination strategy (as contrasted with current prioritization by risk category) in the near future.

[pgardn]

We are basically making up shit as we go and the potential for disastrous consequences is real

We are attempting to adjust to the facts as they come in. it’s called science. And involves an attempt at gathering good information and giving out good and bad news.

Welcome to this new world.

You may also get some “ we don’t know yet”.
I know this is uncomfortable for a fan of authoritarians.

[Winehole23]

We are attempting to adjust to the facts as they come in. it’s called science. And involves an attempt at gathering good information and giving out good and bad news.

Welcome to this new world.

You may also get some “ we don’t know yet”.
I know this is uncomfortable for a fan of authoritarians.The idea that one forfeits credibility for all time by making even a single mistake -- even about a virus previously unknown to science -- is a very online idea propagated by very online people.

[spurraider21]

newsom caved... shame

CA had been one of the better performing states in the early months while he was taking shit for being "too cautious." now he backs off his restrictions as the cases/deaths are piling up. leadership means you have to sometimes make difficult decisions that could be temporarily unpopular.

[hater]

Imperfect state of knowledge. Gotta do the best you can, there will be mistakes.

Hopeully vaccine supply will permit more of a mass vaccination strategy (as contrasted with current prioritization by risk category) in the near future.

Phase 3 trials is where vaccination mistakes should be made. Not in the real world.

1st world countries just scrambling to save their economies, thus why they are ok with turning the world unto a real life laboratory.

As outlined, the consequenses can be disastrous, as in the whole vacvination scheme could derail to a point of not being fixable

[pgardn]

The idea that one forfeits credibility for all time by making even a single mistake -- even about a virus previously unknown to science -- is a very online idea propagated by very online people.

I feel it’s pretty ubiquitous in politics which is sad.
it’s considered a weakness to come out and say “we will make mistakes, we will adjust those mistakes because this is the way the world works. but we will not use information we know is wrong to make decisions”

It’s too bad people with skittish confidence can’t handle the truth. it results in the election of very poor leaders it seems. Hell, I don’t know what it is with people who have a need for believing the most outlandish information. I know this is being looked into; to try to understand why people are so enamored with the bizarre conjectures.

[pgardn]

Phase 3 trials is where vaccination mistakes should be made. Not in the real world.

1st world countries just scrambling to save their economies, thus why they are ok with turning the world unto a real life laboratory.

As outlined, the consequenses can be disastrous, as in the whole vacvination scheme could derail to a point of not being fixable

And you don’t understand that the consequences of crashing economies can result in an inability to function and also result in poor Health consequences. we have learned that there is some balance but finding this balance is very difficult.

these are not all or nothing responses. you don’t worry about the source of water you are using when the house is burning down. In a perfect world these vaccines would be tested for years and years. We don’t have that time.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1351686170044989442?s=19

This is basically becomikg a flu. Reinfection to new strains will be commonplace.

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1351686170044989442?s=19

That immunity you thought u had after having covid, well its gone.

No wonder there are rumblings of having everybcitizen use kn95 type masks from now on.

[pgardn]

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1351686170044989442?s=19

This is basically becomikg a flu. Reinfection to new strains will be commonplace.

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1351686170044989442?s=19

That immunity you thought u had after having covid, well its gone.

No wonder there are rumblings of having everybcitizen use kn95 type masks from now on.


It’s way too early to say this.
You enjoy panic and disaster stories.

[ElNono]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/HappyHarryMedia/status/1352651477953740805?s=19

Damn, gotta hit up Copacabana some day, tbh

[ElNono]

Gavin Newsome says it's ok for Californians to get sick and die some more. Gotta keep those cash registers ringing.

1353753348051259394

He caved... I thought he was socialist though!

[hater]

He caved... I thought he was socialist though!

Lol

Its more likely the threat of a recall election spooked this bitch

https://twitter.com/rpyers/status/1352751797039845376?s=19


Where will he get his milions of $ in contributions if he gets recalled?

[hater]

:lol

https://twitter.com/ksr10sfan/status/1353722171730915328?s=19

[ElNono]

The real loser with a recall is the State, tbh, having to spend money on an election in the middle of a pandemic.

[SnakeBoy]

This is basically becomikg a flu. Reinfection to new strains will be commonplace.


It's becoming a common cold. Once it burns through the population the rate of mutation will slow. Then a new strain every 3-8 years like the other HCoV's.



That immunity you thought u had after having covid, well its gone.


Not all. There's more to immunity than antibodies. Reinfections will have successively reduced disease and mortality. Vaccinations will take the place of the first infection imo. I believe that's true even for the spike only vaccines although a live attenuated vaccine would be better. Not a big deal since they can tweak the mRNA vaccine so easily we (not you) can just get a boost with the updated mRNA vaccines.

[hater]

It's becoming a common cold. Once it burns through the population the rate of mutation will slow. Then a new strain every 3-8 years like the other HCoV's.



Not all. There's more to immunity than antibodies. Reinfections will have successively reduced disease and mortality. Vaccinations will take the place of the first infection imo. I believe that's true even for the spike only vaccines although a live attenuated vaccine would be better. Not a big deal since they can tweak the mRNA vaccine so easily we (not you) can just get a boost with the updated mRNA vaccines.

Hope so :tu

But the South African strain is said to cause more severe symptoms among those who got the original covid 19

Makes sense some colds are stronger than others.

[SnakeBoy]

But the South African strain is said to cause more severe symptoms among those who got the original covid 19


Well whatever happens we will adapt to this virus. Some will by surviving infection, others will by removing themselves from the gene pool.

[RandomGuy]

Well whatever happens we will adapt to this virus. Some will by surviving infection, others will by removing themselves from the gene pool.

Never really been in doubt.

The only thing we need to concern ourselves with is not overwhelming the health care system and causing unnecessary deaths from full ERs when you go in with a broken arm or heart attack.

As has been pointed out repeatedly.

Shrugging ones shoulders at the cost is one thing, but running the risk of needless death by sheer negligence is quite another.

But hey, negligence and incompetence seems to be the only thing that the modern conservative movement seems to stand for these days.

violence and dishonesty breed incompetence.

[hater]

Manaus is a bloodbath. They thought they had achieved herd immunity as they tested 66% with antibodies. But then the new strain developed. RIP Manaus

https://twitter.com/owen_g/status/1353422035821584385?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1353712539524358146?s=19

[hater]

Brazil finally fed up with Bolsohitler

Both left and right wings had protests to oust him

https://twitter.com/BrasilWire/status/1353703674325970946?s=19

Good riddance

[hater]

https://twitter.com/OYCar/status/1353789544806535169?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/OYCar/status/1353427959927906305?s=19

[spurraider21]

hater continues masturbating to covid while constantly talking down on vaccines

[hater]

hater continues masturbating to covid while constantly talking down on vaccines

Seek help pervert

[hater]

New mutations raise specter of ‘immune escape’

When the number of COVID-19 cases began to rise again in Manaus, Brazil, in December 2020, Nuno Faria was stunned. The virologist at Imperial College London had just co-authored a paper in Science estimating that three-quarters of the city's inhabitants had already been infected with SARS-CoV-2, the pandemic coronavirus—more than enough, it seemed, for herd immunity to develop. The virus should be done with Manaus. Yet hospitals were filling up again. “It was hard to reconcile these two things,” Faria says. He started to hunt for samples he could sequence to find out whether changes in the virus could explain the resurgence.

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/371/6527/329

Some scientists worry that proposed changes in vaccine dosing regimens could hasten the evolution of such strains. Desperate to tame a massive surge in cases, the United Kingdom on 30 December decided to allow up to 12 weeks between the first and second dose of two authorized vaccines, rather than the 3 or 4 weeks used in the vaccines' clinical trials, so more people can get their first dose quickly and have at least some immunity. And the Trump administration decided to ship all available doses immediately, rather than holding back 50% to guarantee that people receive their second doses on time. That policy, which the Biden administration has said it will follow, could inadvertently extend the dosing interval if future vaccine deliveries don't arrive or aren't administered on time.

Widespread delays of the second dose might create a pool of millions of people with enough antibodies to slow the virus and avoid getting sick, but not enough to wipe it out. That could well be the perfect recipe for creating vaccine-resistant strains, says virologist Florian Krammer of the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai: “If we end up with everybody just getting one dose with no doses available for a timely boost, that would in my opinion, be a problem.”

If vaccine-resistant SARS-CoV-2 strains emerge, vaccines might need to be updated. Several vaccines could be easily changed to reflect the latest changes, but regulators might balk at authorizing them without seeing updated safety and efficacy data, Krause says. If new variants circulate alongside older strains, multivalent vaccines, effective against several lineages, might even be needed. “To be clear: These are downstream considerations,” Krause says

[spurraider21]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AdorableVengefulArkshell-max-1mb.gif

[DarrinS]

:lmao

[pgardn]

hater continues masturbating to covid while constantly talking down on vaccines

[Winehole23]

https://twitter.com/OYCar/status/1353427959927906305?s=19I hope other people are paying attention too. How many times do we have to watch this movie?

After the initial outbreak pandemics generally last what, about three years?

[SnakeBoy]

After the initial outbreak pandemics generally last what, about three years?

Where do you get that from?

[Winehole23]

admire the gumption

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[Winehole23]

Where do you get that from?PFA, honestly. May have read or overheard it somewhere.

The 1918 flu lasted about three years before it pooted itself out, no?

[DarrinS]

PFA, honestly. May have read or overheard it somewhere.

The 1918 flu lasted about three years before it pooted itself out, no?

Its not 1918, thankfully

[boutons_deux]

Pro-Trump areas are undercounting COVID-19 deaths, new study suggests, by a lot

a very distinct correlation between areas with pro-Trump leanings and very high “excess deaths.”

The reasons for this are many and the correlation between COVID-19 denialism extending to death certificates is not simply the result of someone denying someone else died of the disease,

it’s the result of a systematic denialism in these areas.

And while researchers know that many of these deaths can be attributed to suicide and drug overdoses, hesitancy to get medical attention, and other possibly pandemic-related factors, they also believe that

many of these deaths are very likely to be the direct result of COVID-19. rural areas had much higher “excess deaths” recorded than urban ones and the same was true when comparing pro-Trump voting areas to non-Trump areas

To be clear, lower income areas also had higher excess deaths, and many of those areas don’t vote for Trump.

the difference between

“ (https://www.statnews.com/2021/01/25/undercounting-covid-19-deaths-greatest-in-pro-trump-areas-analysis-shows/)44 excess deaths that weren’t officially recognized as Covid-19 for every 100 official Covid-19 deaths,” (https://www.statnews.com/2021/01/25/undercounting-covid-19-deaths-greatest-in-pro-trump-areas-analysis-shows/)

versus

“25% of counties with the most Trump voters in 2020,

with 163 excess deaths for every 100 Covid-19 deaths.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/1/25/2011733/-Pro-Trump-areas-are-undercounting-COVID-19-deaths-new-study-suggests-by-a-lot (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/1/25/2011733/-Pro-Trump-areas-are-undercounting-COVID-19-deaths-new-study-suggests-by-a-lot)

[Winehole23]

Its not 1918, thankfully2020-1 US gross mortality will approach and may exceed 1918-9 tbh.

We'll all be vaccinated in what, 1-2 years?

[hater]

2020-1 US gross mortality will approach and may exceed 1918-9 tbh.

We'll all be vaccinated in what, 1-2 years?

Vaccine rollout will be a piece of cake

This will dissapear by spring

[Winehole23]

Vaccine rollout will be a piece of cake

This will dissapear by springNow you're saying it'll disappear?

[Chucho]

2020-1 US gross mortality will approach and may exceed 1918-9 tbh.

We'll all be vaccinated in what, 1-2 years?

Thats kind of incredible considering there's about 220 million more of us today than in 1918.

[hater]

Thats kind of incredible considering there's about 220 million more of us today than in 1918.

Sure but also our medical technology today is cray cray compared to 1918 where they used incense and charcoal as medicine :lol

[Winehole23]

Thats kind of incredible considering there's about 220 million more of us today than in 1918.Mediclne is a lot better than 1918, so there's that too.

[Chucho]

Mediclne is a lot better than 1918, so there's that too.

And people nowadays do a far lot more unnecessary traveling and group gatherings today, so there's that, too.

[Winehole23]

And people nowadays do a far lot more unnecessary traveling and group gatherings today, so there's that, too.600,000-700,000 extra US deaths in 12 months is not some trifling amount, not sure what your point is here.

[Chucho]

600,000-700,000 extra US deaths in 12 months is not some trifling amount, not sure what your point is here.

Proportionately, with our selfish society, it's truly amazing only that many people have died. That's why it's incredible, regardless of tech/med advancements.

[hater]

Saying that its good that only 500k ppl died here in the us in 1 year because of how much more people we are and travel is a weird hill to die on tbqh.

Especially given that we are one 9f the most wrecked countries in the world while China, Vietnam, Cuba and Venezuela are doing exxponentially better than us.

Strange

[hater]

On that note. One year on and congrats to the great brothers and sisters of China for defeating the virus. May they serve as example for the rest of us :tu

Props :tu

https://twitter.com/spillerboi/status/1354093522295681030?s=19

[Winehole23]

Saying that its good that only 500k ppl died here in the us in 1 year because of how much more people we are and travel is a weird hill to die on tbqh.

Especially given that we are one 9f the most wrecked countries in the world while China, Vietnam, Cuba and Venezuela are doing exxponentially better than us.

StrangeI appreciate the honesty. The freedom of half million other people to die so he can travel at whim shouldnt be underestimated.

[boutons_deux]

We got people on oxygen tanks that probably was limited back then.''''''

Treatment has advanced a lot, esp early treatments to prevent progression to advanced disease and death, to keep people out of hospital and ICU

We'll see if all that experience applies to the new variants spreading the next few weeks, predicted to be dominant in March.

[hater]

Time to do a toilet paper run for the fall :lol. This shit will never end

https://twitter.com/AkikoFujita/status/1353842507101171713?s=19

[hater]

Thisisfine.gif

https://twitter.com/spaghetigalfeti/status/1354061410381279235?s=19

[lebomb]

What did you have in 2020?.........I had Covid-19. Damn, I thought that would have been it, but I just got over Covid-36 and my mom had Covid-168. They have a vaccine for Covid-19 through 52 though, so its all good.

[hater]

What did you have in 2020?.........I had Covid-19. Damn, I thought that would have been it, but I just got over Covid-36 and my mom had Covid-168. They have a vaccine for Covid-19 through 52 though, so its all good.

At least well have bragging rights that we had the OG COVID :tu

[hater]

New Zealand:

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1353979907072806912?s=19

[hater]

California:
https://twitter.com/stefleder/status/1353925246932242432?s=19

[hater]

:lmao Newsom the butcher

On his way to killing more old ppl than Cuomo :lol

https://twitter.com/Slade/status/1353833375023378432?s=19

[spurraider21]

Newsom should lose his job for caving in

[boutons_deux]

More MISgovernance by conservatives, esp that fool PM Boris The Red

UK’s ‘tsunami’ of grief as coronavirus deaths pass 100,000

U.K.’s toll weighs particularly heavily: It is the smallest nation to pass the 100,000 mark.

the U.K. has one of the the highest death tolls relative to its population.

Experts say virus tallies, in general, are undercounts due to limited testing and missed cases, especially early in the pandemic.

“There’s going to be a tsunami of grief and mental health issues this year, next year, ongoing, due to the complications, because of course people haven’t been able to have the usual rituals,”

there’s no escape from the scale of death in the U.K. — beyond the annual average of around 600,000 — from the regular sound of ambulance sirens to the alarming headlines on news bulletins.

“The backdrop of death, of grief, around creates quite a caustic context,”

https://apnews.com/article/uk-coronavirus-deaths-pass-100k-76f125a9c79a766f4d8e84220a09804c

[boutons_deux]

and Trash's beloved autocrat Bolsonaro fucking up his country's pandemic

‘A complete massacre, a horror film’: inside Brazil's Covid disaster

the centre of Latin America’s latest coronavirus catastrophe (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/10/latin-america-covid-crisis-heads-from-bad-to-worse) last week after a surge in infections linked to a new and seemingly more contagious variant overwhelmed hospitals in Brazil’s Amazonas state,

oxygen tankers were rushed over the border from Venezuela (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/18/venezuela-nicolas-maduro-oxygen-brazil-covid), the economically collapsed nation next door, with its leader, Nicolás

Maduro, decrying what he called “Jair Bolsonaro’s public health disaster”.

Manaus made international headlines in April after a torrent of Covid deaths forced authorities to carve mass graves out of the city’s rust-red earth (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/30/brazil-manaus-coronavirus-mass-graves).

Nine months – and more than 210,000 Brazilian deaths – later, the situation is even worse.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/24/brazil-covid-coronavirus-deaths-cases-amazonas-state

And of course Bolsonaro is permitting clear cutting of 100Ks of hectares of Amazon jungle to grow fucking soy beans for China

[boutons_deux]

FDA Takes Action to Place All Alcohol-Based Hand Sanitizers from Mexico on Import Alert to Help Prevent Entry of Violative and Potentially Dangerous Products into U.S., Protect U.S. Consumers

the agency has seen a sharp increase in hand sanitizer products (https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-updates-hand-sanitizers-consumers-should-not-use#products) from Mexico that were labeled to contain ethanol (also known as ethyl alcohol) but tested positive for methanol contamination.

Methanol, or wood alcohol, is a substance that can be toxic when absorbed through the skin and life-threatening when ingested.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-takes-action-place-all-alcohol-based-hand-sanitizers-mexico-import

[hater]

Norway shutting ALL borders :wow

THE ATTACK OF THE VARIANTS is real :wow

https://twitter.com/TraderStef/status/1354484271625490432?s=19

Prepare those cockholsters america

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/122328185_10157950272969164_7268096217753160439_o. jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=h-5bPYn1e4oAX_7oSWb&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=408e2af50a99cb26df49a7cf8321dfdc&oe=60368CE4

[RandomGuy]

FDA Takes Action to Place All Alcohol-Based Hand Sanitizers from Mexico on Import Alert to Help Prevent Entry of Violative and Potentially Dangerous Products into U.S., Protect U.S. Consumers

the agency has seen a sharp increase in hand sanitizer products (https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-updates-hand-sanitizers-consumers-should-not-use#products) from Mexico that were labeled to contain ethanol (also known as ethyl alcohol) but tested positive for methanol contamination.

Methanol, or wood alcohol, is a substance that can be toxic when absorbed through the skin and life-threatening when ingested.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-takes-action-place-all-alcohol-based-hand-sanitizers-mexico-import

Think I will stick to whatever local distillers crank out.

It's fun having my hands smell like flavored vodka or bourbon.

[baseline bum]

It's fun having my hands smell like flavored vodka or bourbon.

It's like breathing in a shot when I clean my hands with it in the car and then take off my mask. :lol

[RandomGuy]

It's like breathing in a shot when I clean my hands with it in the car and then take off my mask. :lol

It is a new pandemic game. "name the alcoholic beverage your hand sanitzer is made from"

[Winehole23]

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[DMC]

Journalists, activists, guards, prisoners... sounds like a good start.

[DMX7]

New Zealand:

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1353979907072806912?s=19

LAMO, praising a tiny wealthy island country as if it's performed a miracle is ridiculous... The media used to hold out Germany as the gold standard for suppressing COVID -- it doesn't do that anymore for obvious reasons. The media loves its narratives.

[hater]

:cry Marsha, Marsha, Marsha :cry

:lol they havent had a covid death since September. Holding concerts and ball games like its nothing.

Of course we have to praise New Zealand, Jen :lol

[Winehole23]

Reportedly, there was no COVID-19 related economic contraction in 2020 for Vietnam.

Its GDP growth narrowly beat reported figures from Taiwan and China.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/vietnam-is-asias-top-performing-economy-in-2020-amid-covid-pandemic.html

[Winehole23]

https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106830536-1611800503961-Asia_GDP_2020.png?v=1611800169&w=678&h=458

[DMX7]

:lol they havent had a covid death since September. Holding concerts and ball games like its nothing.

Of course we have to praise New Zealand, Jen :lol

What did they do that was so special to contain it? You don't even know. :lmao

:rollin

[velik_m]

LAMO, praising a tiny wealthy island country as if it's performed a miracle is ridiculous... The media used to hold out Germany as the gold standard for suppressing COVID -- it doesn't do that anymore for obvious reasons. The media loves its narratives.

"Tiny" (https://thetruesize.com/#?borders=1~!MTM0MDA5ODE.MTA2NDQ4MjE*MTM5NDMyMTY(N jk4MjI3OA~!NZ*MTQwNjgyNDI.MjM0NDIyNDI)MA)

[DMX7]

"Tiny" (https://thetruesize.com/#?borders=1~!MTM0MDA5ODE.MTA2NDQ4MjE*MTM5NDMyMTY(N jk4MjI3OA~!NZ*MTQwNjgyNDI.MjM0NDIyNDI)MA)

Ok, ok... small. It's not big. It has a population of 5 million.

[boutons_deux]

"a variant first identified in South Africa, has now been detected in two people (https://s2.washingtonpost.com/2efa6be/60132c469d2fda4c88c99485/59740db3ade4e21a8493fdae/8/53/60132c469d2fda4c88c99485) in South Carolina with no travel history,

suggesting that this strain has been spreading undetected in the community."

-- WaPo email

[hater]

What did they do that was so special to contain it? You don't even know. :lmao

:rollin

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

They closed all entry points to their country and shut down the entire country for the 1st 4 months to start with. A real shutdown. As in NOONE can leave their house

As soon as theres a small outbreak they also completely shutdown on a whim. Until it is controlled and traced.

:lmao "what did they do that was so special" :lol :lmao

:lmao

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/143725886_951559518713442_2621482406192466786_o.jp g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=7B-d4N5Sp6MAX8E4EbS&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&tp=7&oh=0c975d660cce6b5698f096a2202aebb1&oe=60396B64

[DMX7]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

They closed all entry points to their country and shut down the entire country for the 1st 4 months to start with. A real shutdown. As in NOONE can leave their house

As soon as theres a small outbreak they also completely shutdown on a whim. Until it is controlled and traced.

:lmao "what did they do that was so special" :lol :lmao

:lmao

LOL pure mass media propaganda :rollin

You bought in. :lol

[DarrinS]

"a variant first identified in South Africa, has now been detected in two people (https://s2.washingtonpost.com/2efa6be/60132c469d2fda4c88c99485/59740db3ade4e21a8493fdae/8/53/60132c469d2fda4c88c99485) in South Carolina with no travel history,

suggesting that this strain has been spreading undetected in the community."

-- WaPo email




Better get back in mom's basement, bro. Its Ebola 2.0

[hater]

LOL pure mass media propaganda :rollin

You bought in. :lol

:lmao :lmao I have friends in NZ, Jan. Its true.

:lol "NZ is propaganda" :lmao

Wow

[Winehole23]

Bucking designated priority group orders from the Georgia Department of Public Health, officials in Elbert County allowed teachers to be vaccinated at the same time as senior citizens over the age of 65. The county, which is in the northeast corner of Georgia, opened schools for in-person learning in the fall. Elbert County officials explained to the Atlanta Journal Constitution that many local students lack internet required for remote learning, and some rely on schools for food. The teachers are “seeing it, they’re facing it every day, a lot of times with 20 kids in their classroom,” Elbert County School District superintendent Jon Jarvis told (https://www.ajc.com/education/one-ga-school-district-offered-a-covid-vaccine-to-every-employee/CSDAJ7WLE5BINLZIP2TKKPLXFI/) the Atlanta Journal Constitution earlier this week.


“I think it’s really important that we stop punishing groups or individuals for vaccinating those outside state or [national] COVID-19 vaccination guidelines.”

But yesterday, Elbert County got word from the Georgia Department of Public Health that it would be punished for flouting the guidelines. The state plans to suspend all vaccine shipments to Elbert County for six months. According to Georgia DPH spokesperson Nancy Nydam, the state will not resume shipments to Elbert County until late July.
https://www.motherjones.com/coronavirus-updates/2021/01/a-rural-county-in-georgia-vaccinated-teachers-the-state-suspended-vaccine-shipments-to-punish-them/

[hater]

Fucking great


The strains that have emerged from South Africa, Brazil and the United Kingdom present a mammoth challenge, said University of Minnesota infectious disease expert Michael Osterholm, who also advised Biden on the pandemic during the transition. "This is, to me, one of the most humbling moments in my scientific career of 45 years. I am certain I know less about SARS-CoV-2 today than I did six months ago. The more I learn, the less I know," he said.

[hater]

Da fuck


https://twitter.com/brightsides/status/1355334875532976128?s=19

[Winehole23]

*the private sector will save us*

1355555354340335616

[DMX7]

:lmao :lmao I have friends in NZ, Jan. Its true.

:lol "NZ is propaganda" :lmao

Wow

All part of the scam. Don't get too emotional over it. :lol

[hater]

All part of the scam. Don't get too emotional over it. :lol

:lmao tinfoil hatter :lol

Youre adorable :lol

[boutons_deux]

How Trash's sycophants MISmanaged the CDC

What went wrong with America’s $44 million vaccine data system?

The CDC ordered software that was meant to manage the vaccine rollout. Instead, it has been plagued by problems and abandoned by most states.

$44 million website called VAMS—the Vaccine Administration Management System, built by the consulting firm Deloitte.

it was supposed to be a one-stop shop where employers, state officials, clinics, and individuals could manage scheduling, inventory, and reporting for covid shots—and free for anyone to use.

the system has badly hurt their immunization efforts so far.

Faced with a string of problems and bugs, several states, including South Carolina, are choosing to hack together their own solutions, or pay for private systems instead.

In May, it gave the task to consulting company Deloitte,

a huge federal contractor, with a $16 million (https://projects.propublica.org/coronavirus-contracts/contracts/75D30120C08239) no-bid contract to manage “covid-19 vaccine distribution and administration tracking.”

In December, Deloitte snagged another $28 million (https://projects.propublica.org/coronavirus-contracts/contracts/75D30121C10087) for the project, again with no competition.

The contract specifies that the award could go as high as $32 million, leaving taxpayers with a bill between $44 and $48 million.

in Florida, where counties aredesperately scheduling clinic visits on the website Eventbrite (https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkdqgz/florida-is-using-eventrite-for-covid-19-vaccine-slots-and-its-not-going-well), more commonly used for concerts and conferences. :lol

Several states that have been using VAMS are backing away.

“VAMS is fussy. There’s days when VAMS works, and days when VAMS doesn’t work,”

“It won’t work on Internet Explorer; it only works in Chrome.

Deloitte has a long history of making malfunctioning things for state and federal governments:

most recently, it was in the news for charging states hundreds of millions of dollars for unemployment websites (https://themarkup.org/coronavirus/2020/07/16/unemployment-benefits-website-failures-deloitte-ibm) that did not work.

the more you unpeel the onion of why all government systems suck, the more you realize it’s the procurement process,”

America’s heavily privatized medical system was held together by duct tape and bubble gum long beforethe biggest public health crisis of our lifetimes.

“The health-care software industry is enormous, and it exists largely because it’s privatized, it’s not standardized,” says Stone.

“There are a lot of free-market inefficiencies.

And the country doesn’t have a public health infrastructure, so there isn’t any real drive to fix it.”

https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/01/30/1017086/cdc-44-million-vaccine-data-vams-problems/

America is a failed country, many thanks to Capitalism enriching itself while not providing "the perfect solution"

[TDMVPDPOY]

Reportedly, there was no COVID-19 related economic contraction in 2020 for Vietnam.

Its GDP growth narrowly beat reported figures from Taiwan and China.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/vietnam-is-asias-top-performing-economy-in-2020-amid-covid-pandemic.html

dont believe what the state tells you and what is on the ground..

they having a surge in cases now with returning international flights..

during the year those infected couldnt get treatment due to being poor, either they die at home or get sent to areas isolated from the general population to die...

i have yet heard or read anything from that state govt about ordering vaccines, they are probably waiting for a free handout from EU or some country, or they can go the brazil/filo way be a test monkey for the china vaccines...

[boutons_deux]

CDC orders mask-wearing on all public transportation

travelers will be required to wear masks on all public transportation —

including planes, trains and subways, ferries, buses, taxis, and ride-hail vehicles like Uber —

starting Monday night.

People will also have to comply

at transportation hubs like airports, bus depots, and train stations, and

operators and transportation workers must wear masks while on the job.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/964128/cdc-orders-maskwearing-all-public-transportation

[DMX7]

:lmao tinfoil hatter :lol

Literally anyone could have done better than Trump at containing the virus here in the US. BUT, I would wager a lot of money that if Jacinda Ardern had been POTUS all this time, the deaths here from COVID would still be in the hundreds of thousands. Comparing New Zealand to the US/Europe is a really an apples to oranges comparison -- it's laughable really -- the scope and scale of the challenge here is totally different. We share massive land borders with foreign countries, have mega size metropolitan areas, have no real internal border controls, have sizable Chinese immigrant communities who travel back and forth between China (which meant more early COVID exposure), and on and on and on. This all impacts the spread of COVID.

[DarrinS]

Why doesn't anyone mention Australia? Their response has been phenomenal.

[ElNono]

Why doesn't anyone mention Australia? Their response has been phenomenal.

Because they had a massive lockdown down there?

[TimDunkem]

Lockdowns good now? jfc Pick a lane.

[DarrinS]

Because they had a massive lockdown down there?


They were very good about controlling their borders and strict quarantines.

[ElNono]

They were very good about controlling their borders and strict quarantines.

yes they were

[Ef-man]

Hey ElNono...

Why do you only do this to my threads?
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289122&page=3

Why would any sane person try to bury this info?
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289122&page=2&p=10421321&viewfull=1#post10421321

How much are you being paid as a government shill to spam the board?

[boutons_deux]

Anti-Vaxxers Now Trying To Stop *Other* People From Getting Vaccines
https://assets.rebelmouse.io/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNTU1NDk2Mi9vcmlnaW4 ucG5nIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY2MDkxOTQ5MH0.DpuXq1wXZ pPkEqMMhLXircVc_x7xj7R34Eiy0_0rCmA/img.png?quality=80&width=665On Saturday afternoon, a not-very-large group of anti-vaxxers in Los Angeles managed to shut down the vaccine distributions at Dodger Stadium

for a short period of time during what was advertised as a Scamdemic March/Protest.

The LAPD, for reasons they have not made entirely clear, closed the gate for a while and refused to let anyone in to get a vaccine.

https://www.wonkette.com/anti-vaxxers-now-trying-to-stop-other-people-from-getting-vaccines

People waiting for hours in their cars for vaccine have to put with this shit

[SnakeBoy]

Anti-Vaxxers Now Trying To Stop *Other* People From Getting Vaccines
https://assets.rebelmouse.io/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNTU1NDk2Mi9vcmlnaW4 ucG5nIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY2MDkxOTQ5MH0.DpuXq1wXZ pPkEqMMhLXircVc_x7xj7R34Eiy0_0rCmA/img.png?quality=80&width=665On Saturday afternoon, a not-very-large group of anti-vaxxers in Los Angeles managed to shut down the vaccine distributions at Dodger Stadium

for a short period of time during what was advertised as a Scamdemic March/Protest.

The LAPD, for reasons they have not made entirely clear, closed the gate for a while and refused to let anyone in to get a vaccine.

https://www.wonkette.com/anti-vaxxers-now-trying-to-stop-other-people-from-getting-vaccines

People waiting for hours in their cars for vaccine has to put with this shit


Refrain from wearing Trump attire when protesting the Trump vaccine

[ElNono]

Read about that in the LA Times last night... looks like it was ~50 people...

Just a shame LAPD didn't spray clorox all over them, tbh

[hater]

Fuck everything

2021 making 2020 look like Jessica Alba lying on your bed tbqh

https://twitter.com/9NewsAUS/status/1355963353965932547?s=19

[boutons_deux]

The Virus Changed.

Now We Must ‘Get to Zero’ or Face Catastrophe

Half measures haven’t worked. It’s time to beat the virus the way other places have done.

governments still do not understand the threat at hand.

To illustrate it, British mathematician Adam Kucharski recently compared (https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/12/virus-mutation-catastrophe/617531/) a virus mutation that was 50 per cent more deadly with one that increased transmission by 50 per cent.

With a reproduction rate of about 1.1 and a death rate of 0.8 per cent, current strains of COVID-19 now deliver 129 deaths per 10,000 infections.

A virus that is 50 per cent more lethal will kill 193 people in a month. A variant that is more transmissible wins the game with 978 deaths in just one month.

Now don’t think of these variants as the same old COVID-19. That’s a big mistake.

They actually represent an entirely new pandemic (https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/can-germany-stop-the-new-supervirus-a-e9ffc207-0015-4330-8361-b306f6053e15).

In the last three months,

several super-variants have emerged that are 30 to 70 per cent more infectious than the original Wuhan strain.
The old COVID-19 doubled (https://www.sfu.ca/magpie/blog/high-transmission-variant-modelling.html) its numbers every 40 days under a particular set of restrictions;

under the same conditions, the variants double every 10 days. That means they can outrun any vaccination campaign.*
That means if you haven’t eliminated — or almost eliminated — cases in your region, you are going to learn the meaning of grief.

In Roberta Place, the U.K. variant, B117, appeared on Jan. 8. It flew in on a jet, because travel connects everything on this planet with a dangerous totality.

But back to B117, which slammed the U.K. with its highest infection rates and death tolls to date.

In just 10 days, a single case at Roberta Place became a massive outbreak affecting half the residents, and nearly half the workers.

Today, every resident of Roberta House and almost all workers are infected. All the physicians and essential visitors got infected too.

The variant moved so fast that the facility couldn’t even separate the infected from the non-infected. There are more than 40 dead (https://globalnews.ca/news/7598162/45-deaths-roberta-place-coronavirus-outbreak/).

An astonished virologist

Now listen to German virologist Christian Drosten (https://www.thelocal.de/20210122/german-virologist-drosten-warns-of-100000-daily-covid-19-cases-if-measures-taken-away-too-early).

He finds it astonishing that COVID-19 has boosted its infectiousness by 30 to 50 per cent over previous strains by doing what viruses do: evolve, mutate and adapt for more effective reproduction.

He notes that

a more infectious virus is more dangerous than a more lethal one,

“because every new case will infect more people,

and each of them will infect more people,

such that the number of cases will grow exponentially.”

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2021/01/28/Virus-Changed-Get-To-Zero-Face-Catastrophe/

[SnakeBoy]

The Virus Changed.

Now We Must ‘Get to Zero’ or Face Catastrophe

Half measures haven’t worked. It’s time to beat the virus the way other places have done.

governments still do not understand the threat at hand.

To illustrate it, British mathematician Adam Kucharski recently compared (https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/12/virus-mutation-catastrophe/617531/) a virus mutation that was 50 per cent more deadly with one that increased transmission by 50 per cent.

With a reproduction rate of about 1.1 and a death rate of 0.8 per cent, current strains of COVID-19 now deliver 129 deaths per 10,000 infections.

A virus that is 50 per cent more lethal will kill 193 people in a month. A variant that is more transmissible wins the game with 978 deaths in just one month.

Now don’t think of these variants as the same old COVID-19. That’s a big mistake.

They actually represent an entirely new pandemic (https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/can-germany-stop-the-new-supervirus-a-e9ffc207-0015-4330-8361-b306f6053e15).

In the last three months,

several super-variants have emerged that are 30 to 70 per cent more infectious than the original Wuhan strain.
The old COVID-19 doubled (https://www.sfu.ca/magpie/blog/high-transmission-variant-modelling.html) its numbers every 40 days under a particular set of restrictions;

under the same conditions, the variants double every 10 days. That means they can outrun any vaccination campaign.*
That means if you haven’t eliminated — or almost eliminated — cases in your region, you are going to learn the meaning of grief.

In Roberta Place, the U.K. variant, B117, appeared on Jan. 8. It flew in on a jet, because travel connects everything on this planet with a dangerous totality.

But back to B117, which slammed the U.K. with its highest infection rates and death tolls to date.

In just 10 days, a single case at Roberta Place became a massive outbreak affecting half the residents, and nearly half the workers.

Today, every resident of Roberta House and almost all workers are infected. All the physicians and essential visitors got infected too.

The variant moved so fast that the facility couldn’t even separate the infected from the non-infected. There are more than 40 dead (https://globalnews.ca/news/7598162/45-deaths-roberta-place-coronavirus-outbreak/).

An astonished virologist

Now listen to German virologist Christian Drosten (https://www.thelocal.de/20210122/german-virologist-drosten-warns-of-100000-daily-covid-19-cases-if-measures-taken-away-too-early).

He finds it astonishing that COVID-19 has boosted its infectiousness by 30 to 50 per cent over previous strains by doing what viruses do: evolve, mutate and adapt for more effective reproduction.

He notes that

a more infectious virus is more dangerous than a more lethal one,

“because every new case will infect more people,

and each of them will infect more people,

such that the number of cases will grow exponentially.”

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2021/01/28/Virus-Changed-Get-To-Zero-Face-Catastrophe/




Trash alarmist article tbh

We'll never get to zero, ever.

[pgardn]

Trash alarmist article tbh

We'll never get to zero, ever.

Agree.

[boutons_deux]

Trump's 74M maskless assholes gonna get clobbered

COVID-19 variant brings new dimension to Europe’s pandemic

The National Institute for Public Health and the Environment in the Netherlands last week reported rising cases of the variant and

warned it will push higher the number of hospital admissions and deaths.

“There are essentially two separate COVID-19 epidemics:

one epidemic involving the ‘old’ variant, in which infections are decreasing, and

another epidemic involving the (new) variant, in which infections are increasing,”

https://apnews.com/article/travel-pandemics-europe-coronavirus-vaccine-portugal-ce002bdf1a21c540ece3adfedc193bc8 (https://apnews.com/article/travel-pandemics-europe-coronavirus-vaccine-portugal-ce002bdf1a21c540ece3adfedc193bc8?utm_source=newsle tter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top)

[Winehole23]

*makes the sign of the cross*

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[Winehole23]

1356615895725051904

[hater]

Fuck everything

2021 making 2020 look like Jessica Alba lying on your bed tbqh

https://twitter.com/9NewsAUS/status/1355963353965932547?s=19

Hes dead :cry

COVID took another legend

[hater]

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1356365178330378251?s=19

[boutons_deux]

fraudulent "businessman" so excellent at business management

Chaotic Trump White House ‘Lost’ Millions Of Vaccine Doses (https://www.nationalmemo.com/white-house-lost-covid-vaccines)

Biden's team had a prioritized focus on combatting the raging coronavirus pandemic,

but instead of completely focusing on their 200-page pandemic response plan,

this week has been largely dedicated to "trying to wrap their hands around the mushrooming crisis (https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/30/biden-covid-vaccine-states-463953) —

a process officials acknowledge has been humbling, and

triggered a concerted effort to temper expectations about how quickly they might get the nation back to normal."

While the Biden administration's work should be well underway,

they are still working to locate more than 20 million doses of coronavirus vaccines that have already been shipped to states.

According to Biden aides, they inherited a deeply flawed system for maintaining proper records and inventory of vaccine distribution.
https://www.nationalmemo.com/white-house-lost-covid-vaccines

... when loyalty to Trash and his self-serving politics replaces competence and good faith job execution

[hater]

Superbowl spike combined w 1.1.7 strain should be fun.

We will be back at breaking records by March 1

[Winehole23]

local actions to slow variant transmission start at page five, but there seems to be little political urgency.

essential workers are dying to serve all of us, even in the shadow of mass vaccination.

https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0092-8674%2821%2900087-8

[hater]

Not looking good

Seems Danish scientists who are the few that are really studying the variant agree with Dr Osterholm that this is just the calm before the category 5 storm :(

Sciencemag.org

On its face, the curve of COVID-19 infections in Denmark looks reassuring enough. A nationwide lockdown has led numbers to plummet from more than 3000 daily cases in mid-December 2020 to just a few hundred now. But don’t be fooled. “Sure, the numbers look nice,” says Camilla Holten Møller of the Statens Serum Institute, who heads a group of experts modeling the epidemic. “But if we look at our models, this is the calm before the storm.”

That’s because the graph really reflects two epidemics: one, shrinking fast, that’s caused by older variants of SARS-CoV-2, and a smaller, slowly growing outbreak of B.1.1.7, the variant first recognized in England and now driving a big third wave of the pandemic there. If B.1.1.7 keeps spreading at the same pace in Denmark, it will become the dominant variant later this month and cause the overall number of cases to rise again, despite the lockdown, Holten Møller says. “It is a complete game changer.”

[Winehole23]

ventilation/airflow is underdiscussed, it's a respiratory pandemic, right?

https://covidstraighttalk.org/hacks

[SnakeBoy]

According to Biden aides, they inherited a deeply flawed system for maintaining proper records and inventory of vaccine distribution.

lol poor Biden inherited the legacy system he helped build

[RandomGuy]

lol poor Biden inherited the legacy system he helped build

Still can't explain that spike, stupid, lying motherfucker.

Still can't admit you consistently vote for the most moronic, inept, corrupt fuckers in the country.

Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-disbanded-nsc-pandemic-unit-experts-praised-69594177

[RandomGuy]

lol poor Biden inherited the legacy system he helped build

Or maybe you think Jareds interns were a crack bunch. :lol

The White House's Pandemic Response Plan Was Destroyed By Its Own Venality and Inhumanity
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a33483155/jared-kushner-pandemic-response-plan-white-house/

Jared Kushner's pandemic effort exposed as 'laughable'
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/jared-kushner-s-pandemic-effort-exposed-laughable-n1201111


The coronavirus response being spearheaded by President Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, has relied in part on volunteers from consulting and private equity firms with little expertise in the tasks they were assigned, exacerbating chronic problems in obtaining supplies for hospitals and other needs, according to numerous government officials and a volunteer involved in the effort.\

:lol poor brainwashed Snakeboy's failed post-truth trolling.

[boutons_deux]

4th wave incoming

UK COVID variant like a ‘Category 5 hurricane,’ epidemiologist says

https://nypost.com/2021/02/04/uk-covid-variant-like-a-category-5-hurricane-official/

[DarrinS]

4th wave incoming

UK COVID variant like a ‘Category 5 hurricane,’ epidemiologist says

https://nypost.com/2021/02/04/uk-covid-variant-like-a-category-5-hurricane-official/


That 5th wave is really gonna be horrific. Category 5++ hurricane.

[SnakeBoy]

That 5th wave is really gonna be horrific. Category 5++ hurricane.

Vincent Racaniello straight up called Osterholm a fearmonger on TWiV

[DarrinS]

Vincent Racaniello straight up called Osterholm a fearmonger on TWiV

Really? I try to watch that podcast, when I can. I mostly like the Friday updates by Dr. Daniel Griffen.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1358065355785134083?s=19

[baseline bum]

Vincent Racaniello straight up called Osterholm a fearmonger on TWiV

IDK, Osterholm is the only voice who has actually seemed to be mostly right so far. Still remember the Joe Rogan interview in early March when he was telling us it was being spread mostly through airborne transmission back when everyone else was saying just wash your hands and don't touch your face.

[Winehole23]

IDK, Osterholm is the only voice who has actually seemed to be mostly right so far. Still remember the Joe Rogan interview in early March when he was telling us it was being spread mostly through airborne transmission back when everyone else was saying just wash your hands and don't touch your face.a number of other countries had it right *at that time*.

[hater]

IDK, Osterholm is the only voice who has actually seemed to be mostly right so far. Still remember the Joe Rogan interview in early March when he was telling us it was being spread mostly through airborne transmission back when everyone else was saying just wash your hands and don't touch your face.

That was a legendary interview and he was miles ahead any US expert especially that clown "dr" facci.who was saying masks are bad at the time :lol

[hater]

That guy on twitter eric feig deil was also spot on from day 1. Thus why I quote him imo

[baseline bum]

That was a legendary interview and he was miles ahead any US expert especially that clown "dr" facci.who was saying masks are bad at the time :lol

Quit fucking strawmanning Fauci's mask argument son :lol

[hater]

Quit fucking strawmanning Fauci's mask argument son :lol

Yeah because thats the only thing Fauci got wrong :lmao :lol

[baseline bum]

Yeah because thats the only thing Fauci got wrong :lmao :lol

It's funny how you have flopped from Fauci being a national treasure, long after he tried to suppress demand for masks, to now Fauci being being a windowlicking retard.

[Winehole23]

"experts unenthusiastic"

oh well, it may come in handy for the fall 2021 cold and flu season.


For months, U.S. public health experts have called on the federal government to approve and fund cheap and fast at-home Covid-19 tests, to help bring the spread of infection under control. But when the Biden administration this week announced a $231.8 million deal to ramp up production of the first fully at-home test, the experts’ response was, to say the least, unenthusiastic. One dismissed it as “a spit in the ocean.”

It’s not that home testing with a 15-minute turnaround time isn’t a good idea, they said, it’s just that the rollout of this initial kit is too little and too late, and the test too expensive and complicated, to help extinguish the raging pandemic fire. A number of experts called on the Biden administration to subsidize the home test for consumers, and said the Food and Drug Administration needs to do more to make such tests widely available.

The first fully over-the-counter Covid test, a rapid antigen test produced by the Australian company Ellume, was granted an emergency use authorization in December. On Monday the administration said it would provide funding to build a factory in the U.S. that will eventually make millions of tests every month, but will take time to scale up.



The Ellume deal will ship 100,000 test kits to U.S. households per month from February to July, and eventually scale up production to 19 million tests per month.https://www.statnews.com/2021/02/05/a-waste-of-money-the-home-covid-19-test-funded-by-the-biden-administration-is-too-costly-and-complex-critics-say/

[DarrinS]

Multiply cases by 10x

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/02/06/964527835/why-the-pandemic-is-10-times-worse-than-you-think


Makes sense. I'm one of millions unreported cases.

[Winehole23]

Multiply cases by 10x

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/02/06/964527835/why-the-pandemic-is-10-times-worse-than-you-think


Makes sense. I'm one of millions unreported cases.fwiw, earliest estimates of undetected transmission last spring were of roughly the same magnitude.

[Winehole23]

by heart, the range given was 6x to 10x

[boutons_deux]

https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/248038_rgb_768_0.jpg?itok=n9JKjs3Z

https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/20210202edhoc-a_0.jpg?itok=cbQgDb8u

https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/248059_rgb_768_0.png?itok=9k6xLIfe




https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/20210201edbbc-a_0.jpg?itok=iLFf5M3-

[hater]

It's funny how you have flopped from Fauci being a national treasure, long after he tried to suppress demand for masks, to now Fauci being being a windowlicking retard.

Bullshit

I always said fauci was a fraud

[hater]

Multiply cases by 10x

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/02/06/964527835/why-the-pandemic-is-10-times-worse-than-you-think


Makes sense. I'm one of millions unreported cases.

We are back to zero with the SA variant tbqh. Everyone will be infected again

[DMC]

twitter is your friend ma niga

spread to half dozen countries already

masks and temp checks at airports are nothing more than crowd control propaganda. they will do nothing to prevent spread

and if it mutates 1 more time... game ova


the dont wear masks BS is done by governments to prevent shortage of masks for their police/medical force

of course you are better off wearing a mask :lol especially the N95

I have only a handful of those and will wear it if infection reaches Seattle levels in my area


I called this 2 months ago ma nigas


had you been listening you would not be so shocked/stressed now

I had time to prepare got a good supply of N95 maks, foods and necessities. I been ready for 2 months

I will also volunteer to deliver stuff to old ppl if need be and help out

I been ready for this for 2 months.

called it

only problem is I now have a cough :lol


Bullshit

I always said fauci was a fraud

You always said a lot of contradictory shit. :blah

[hater]

You always said a lot of contradictory shit. :blah

You just posted how full of shit I thought Fauci and US response was from very beginning :tu

All my posts are spot on too

Thanks niga :lmao

:tu called it

[Th'Pusher]

You always said a lot of contradictory shit. :blah

Are you just now coming to this realization?

[hater]

:lmao "contradictory"

I always called for us to close down like China/Australia last year

Of course that only works at the beginning.but no US and Fauci did temp checks and paper masks at airports :lmao

Of course that was just useless propaganda

Now we have a covid inferno here in the US thanks to that ineptitude.

I also always said best mask is n95 and cdc is finally admitting :lol

[hater]

the dont wear masks BS is done by governments to prevent shortage of masks for their police/medical force

of course you are better off wearing a mask especially the N95

I have only a handful of those and will wear it if infection reaches Seattle levels in my area

:tu spot on

I even called Faucis early lie of masks are bad. :tu

[hater]

I had time to prepare got a good supply of N95 maks, foods and necessities. I been ready for 2 months

I will also volunteer to deliver stuff to old ppl if need be and help out

I been ready for this for 2 months.


:tu spot on as well

I did use a few of n95s early on but I replaced them with more comfy, almost as good KN95

Kingfa is my kn95 brand and CDC did a test and it has like 99% filtration :wow

Its a beast :tu

[SnakeBoy]

Good TWiV episode in regards to variants and immune escape. Interesting that these variants have been around since early 2019. They talk about how these variants may not necessarily be more transmissible rather we are selecting for them with high infection rates since they have some degree of antibody resistance. Also immune escape is will likely occur faster because of infection rates.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaZajCMGUdY

[pgardn]

:tu spot on

I even called Faucis early lie of masks are bad. :tu


:tu spot on as well

I did use a few of n95s early on but I replaced them with more comfy, almost as good KN95

Kingfa is my kn95 brand and CDC did a test and it has like 99% filtration :wow

Its a beast :tu

Give yourself a good pat on the back.
You don’t know what the shit you’re talking about.
99%filtration of what? *emoji of utter confusion*

At one point in time we thought it was impossible to have RNA viruses.
We were wrong, science sucks for hater.

[pgardn]

Good TWiV episode in regards to variants and immune escape. Interesting that these variants have been around since early 2019. They talk about how these variants may not necessarily be more transmissible rather we are selecting for them with high infection rates since they have some degree of antibody resistance. Also immune escape is will likely occur faster because of infection rates.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaZajCMGUdY

I don’t know if they mention this because it’s a pretty long discussion but variants occur all the time. Some variants catch hold and multiply, it doesn’t even have to be because of a natural selection advantage, it might just be good luck and that the variant(s) encountered ideal spreading conditions. The variants we should be worried about are the ones that have mutations in the spike protein in very specific domains of attachment.

I will listen to this later, I hope they have some information on the other proteins and how possible mutations in those could cause problems, or why they might not be a worry at all.

[SnakeBoy]

I don’t know if they mention this because it’s a pretty long discussion but variants occur all the time. Some variants catch hold and multiply, it doesn’t even have to be because of a natural selection advantage, it might just be good luck and that the variant(s) encountered ideal spreading conditions. The variants we should be worried about are the ones that have mutations in the spike protein in very specific domains of attachment.

I will listen to this later, I hope they have some information on the other proteins and how possible mutations in those could cause problems, or why they might not be a worry at all.

Vincent has talked about this since the "more transmissible" scary headlines from the UK. He referred to it as Founder Effect.

[DMC]

You just posted how full of shit I thought Fauci and US response was from very beginning :tu

All my posts are spot on too

Thanks niga :lmao

:tu called it

Masks work, masks don't work, you only have a handful, you have a good supply... it was the best of times, it was the worst of times.

[hater]

Masks work, masks don't work, you only have a handful, you have a good supply... it was the best of times, it was the worst of times.

R u an idiot?

I always said paper or cloth masks are a joke for protecting yourself. N95 is the way to go. Kn95 almost as good.

Lol nancy

[DarrinS]

R u an idiot?

I always said paper or cloth masks are a joke for protecting yourself. N95 is the way to go. Kn95 almost as good.

Lol nancy


You wearing goggles, too?

[SnakeBoy]

Not a Fauci fan but I'm glad to see him push back against the likes of Osterholm who want to copy the UK and delay the 2nd dose.

Fauci cautions against delaying second round of Covid vaccinations
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fauci-cautions-against-delaying-second-round-of-covid-vaccinations/ar-BB1dtmeU?ocid=uxbndlbing

Osterholm was good when the pandemic started but he's become such an emotional wreck I can hardly listen to his updates anymore.

[hater]

You wearing goggles, too?

:lol no

I did wear sunglasses everywhere in March. April 2020

I might do that again this year it looks like

[DMC]

R u an idiot?

I always said paper or cloth masks are a joke for protecting yourself. N95 is the way to go. Kn95 almost as good.

Lol nancy

It must be everyone else who thinks you hedge all bets, since you're obviously not doing that.

[hater]

It must be everyone else who thinks you hedge all bets, since you're obviously not doing that.

Point out the "inconsitency" then brah

All u have done is quote my 100% spot on posts from last year.

And whatever you bolded and underlined is also 100% correct

[SnakeBoy]

Good TWiV episode in regards to variants and immune escape. Interesting that these variants have been around since early 2019. They talk about how these variants may not necessarily be more transmissible rather we are selecting for them with high infection rates since they have some degree of antibody resistance. Also immune escape is will likely occur faster because of infection rates.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaZajCMGUdY

Btw, the guest virologist on this episode is the "anonymous" guy that posted what he would do to try and create a vaccine resistant strain which just happens to be everything we are doing lol

1345195420033691648

[ElNono]

Btw, the guest virologist on this episode is the "anonymous" guy that posted what he would do to try and create a vaccine resistant strain which just happens to be everything we are doing lol

1345195420033691648

yep, link here:
https://www.virology.ws/2021/01/05/musings-of-an-anonymous-pissed-off-virologist/

Should be highlighted, though, he wrote that in January of this year....

[hater]

Not a Fauci fan but I'm glad to see him push back against the likes of Osterholm who want to copy the UK and delay the 2nd dose.

Fauci cautions against delaying second round of Covid vaccinations
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fauci-cautions-against-delaying-second-round-of-covid-vaccinations/ar-BB1dtmeU?ocid=uxbndlbing

Osterholm was good when the pandemic started but he's become such an emotional wreck I can hardly listen to his updates anymore.

I agree that 2nd dose should not be delayed or canceled. But interested on osterholms reasoning. Maybe it has to do with variants wave incoming? I have to take a look.....

[hater]

Btw, the guest virologist on this episode is the "anonymous" guy that posted what he would do to try and create a vaccine resistant strain which just happens to be everything we are doing lol

1345195420033691648

I domt think hes the only one

I read at least half dozen science articles that say d same thing

[hater]

I agree that 2nd dose should not be delayed or canceled. But interested on osterholms reasoning. Maybe it has to do with variants wave incoming? I have to take a look.....

Damn so I was right :wow

Im good :tu

https://twitter.com/linneaawake/status/1358183412926976000?s=19

Obviously this is a very hard thing to decide. But I think I agree w Osterholm. We should be scared of Covid but we should be terrified of the variants.

Osterholm is right :tu

[hater]

In related news:

South Africa stops Astrazeneca vacvination because its basically useless vs South African strain

https://twitter.com/pbosque1/status/1358570611304525826?s=19

[boutons_deux]

South Africa Halts AstraZeneca Vaccine Rollout Over Effectiveness Doubts With New Variant


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/02/south-africa-halts-astrazeneca-vaccine-rollout.html

[boutons_deux]

What the New COVID-19 Strains Mean for Herd Immunity, Vaccine Efficacy

Disease specialists studying new SARS-CoV-2 variants discuss whether virus mutations could upend herd immunity timelines and thwart vaccine progress.

it appears that modified spike proteins in these viruses bind more tightly to the ACE-2 receptor on human cells (https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcimb.2020.00317/full), leading to infection in the body.

The bad news, however, is that the new strains have a 50–70 percent higher infection rate, which means that the world could see an explosion of COVID-19 cases.

That would lead to more deaths, simply by the sheer fact that such a large pool of people would contract the virus,

https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/what-the-new-covid-19-strains-mean-for-herd-immunity-vaccine-efficacy (https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/what-the-new-covid-19-strains-mean-for-herd-immunity-vaccine-efficacy)

[hater]

Hopefully the Putin vaccine will save d day tbqh

https://twitter.com/Sentletse/status/1358326306866348034?s=19

Otherwise I hope Cuban vaccine will take care of us. Im really losing confidence on western vaccines

[pgardn]

Hopefully the Putin vaccine will save d day tbqh

https://twitter.com/Sentletse/status/1358326306866348034?s=19

Otherwise I hope Cuban vaccine will take care of us. Im really losing confidence on western vaccines

You never had any to begin with.
Bottom line is you are as nutty as derp.

If you think Russia is going to lead the world in Biological solutions... You need to go live there.
And You will die there. You would not last a second if you are the same person as your are on this board.

[DMC]

Point out the "inconsitency" then brah

All u have done is quote my 100% spot on posts from last year.

And whatever you bolded and underlined is also 100% correct

Only have a handful of masks, had time to prepare and got a good supply.

Either you don't speak english well or you're lying.

[hater]

Only have a handful of masks, had time to prepare and got a good supply.

Either you don't speak english well or you're lying.

I dont see anything inconsistent with saying I have a handful of masks and have a good supply

I ask again

Are u stupid nancy?

[DMC]

I dont see anything inconsistent with saying I have a handful of masks and have a good supply

I ask again

Are u stupid nancy?

Only have a handful
Have a good supply


Only a handful of Topps 52 Mickey Mantle cards in existence

There's a good supply of Tops 52 Mickey Mantle cards in existence

They are rare
They aren't rare

Blah blah

Halb Halb

They do nothing to prevent the spread
Of course you are better off wearing a mask

[hater]

Only have a handful
Have a good supply


Only a handful of Topps 52 Mickey Mantle cards in existence

There's a good supply of Tops 52 Mickey Mantle cards in existence

They are rare
They aren't rare

Blah blah

Halb Halb

They do nothing to prevent the spread
Of course you are better off wearing a mask

Both those first sentences are NOT inconsistent Nancy

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

Ruling for hater on this one.

A handful can be a good supply for rotation.

[SnakeBoy]

We should be scared of Covid but we should be terrified of the variants.


Scared of covid
Scared of the vaccines
Terrified of the variants

Sucks to be you tbh

[DMC]

Both those first sentences are NOT inconsistent Nancy

:lol

Since you said both of them, then yeah, they are. Had no not said "ONLY a handful" then I'd give your poor attempt more consideration.

[hater]

Scared of covid
Scared of the vaccines
Terrified of the variants

Sucks to be you tbh

As a population nancy

Im not scared of any as a person. This discussion is about the world population, nancy

[hater]

Since you said both of them, then yeah, they are. Had no not said "ONLY a handful" then I'd give your poor attempt more consideration.

0 sense made.

[boutons_deux]

U.K. coronavirus variant spreading rapidly through United States

spreading rapidly across the United States,

outcompeting other strains and doubling its prevalence among confirmed infections every week and a half

The report,

posted on the preprint server MedRxiv (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.06.21251159v1) and not yet peer-reviewed or published in a journal,

comes from a collaboration of many scientists and

provides the first hard data to support a forecast (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/coronavirus-variant-dominant-us/2021/01/15/4420d814-5738-11eb-a817-e5e7f8a406d6_story.html?itid=lk_inline_manual_3) issued last month by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that

showed the variant becoming dominant in the United States by late March.
The spread of the variant, officially known as B.1.1.7, and the threat of other mutant strains of the virus, have added urgency to the effort to vaccinate as many people as possible as quickly as possible.

The variant is more contagious than earlier forms of the coronavirus

and may also be more lethal, although that is far less certain.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/ukvariant-coronavirus-us-spread/2021/02/07/a197dbc2-680a-11eb-8468-21bc48f07fe5_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/ukvariant-coronavirus-us-spread/2021/02/07/a197dbc2-680a-11eb-8468-21bc48f07fe5_story.html?outputType=amp)

[RandomGuy]

Hopefully the Putin vaccine will save d day tbqh

https://twitter.com/Sentletse/status/1358326306866348034?s=19

Otherwise I hope Cuban vaccine will take care of us. Im really losing confidence on western vaccines

:lol "putin vaccine"

You mean the one that doens't work because they rushed it without actually testing it? THAT one?

sad.

weak.

[boutons_deux]

Sputnik V proven to work against the SA variant?

or is the tweeter twit clowning?

[DMC]

As a population nancy

Im not scared of any as a person. This discussion is about the world population, nancy

Your English comprehension dwindles when you get embarrassed.

[Reck]

1358810151663370243 (https://twitter.com/texastribune/status/1358810151663370243?s=21)

Thoughts and prayers. Donations welcome.

[pgardn]

1358810151663370243 (https://twitter.com/texastribune/status/1358810151663370243?s=21)

Thoughts and prayers. Donations welcome.

The cancer actually got him.
he had lived with Covid for many years...

[hater]

Your English comprehension dwindles when you get embarrassed.

Says the nancy that calls this "english" :lmao


Since you said both of them, then yeah, they are. Had no not said "ONLY a handful" then I'd give your poor attempt more consideration

[hater]

The Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine offers as little as 10% protection against the Covid variant first seen in South Africa, researchers have suggested.

Scientists who conducted a small-scale trial of the vaccine’s efficacy said it showed very little protection against mild to moderate infection, though they expressed hope that – in theory – it would still offer significant protection against more serious infection.

[hater]

Got damn

Nerherlands extents strict curfew until March

https://twitter.com/JimRaisNL/status/1356673455840722949?s=19

[SnakeBoy]

The Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine offers as little as 10% protection against the Covid variant first seen in South Africa, researchers have suggested.

Scientists who conducted a small-scale trial of the vaccine’s efficacy said it showed very little protection against mild to moderate infection, though they expressed hope that – in theory – it would still offer significant protection against more serious infection.

I see nothing that concerns me from the results of this little study. What about it has you so frightened Nellie?

[hater]

Osterholm tripples down on his dire warnings. Calls for absolute and complete shutdown of everything in the US

Id give chances of that happening at 55% tbqh. So better go get your toilet paper nigs.

Https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp-video/mmvo100604485889?__twitter_impression=true

And for u nigs who detest shutdowns, there will always be Florida :lol

[hater]

I see nothing that concerns me from the results of this little study. What about it has you so frightened Nellie?

Im not concerned as I was never going to take that shit vaccine anyway :lmao

But seems South Africa is pretty concerned as they have halted using it and decided to basically throw that abobination of a vaccine to the dustbin :lol

[Reck]

Im not concerned as I was never going to take that shit vaccine anyway :lmao

But seems South Africa is pretty concerned as they have halted using it and decided to basically throw that abobination of a vaccine to the dustbin :lol

Their immune system must be shit. They live in huts made of dirt.

[ChumpDumper]

Osterholm tripples down on his dire warnings. Calls for absolute and complete shutdown of everything in the US

Id give chances of that happening at 55% tbqh. So better go get your toilet paper nigs.

Https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp-video/mmvo100604485889?__twitter_impression=true

And for u nigs who detest shutdowns, there will always be Florida :lolAnd any red state.

The Death Cult party will never shut anything down again for any reason other than punishing Democrats.

[boutons_deux]

The fast-spreading coronavirus variant is turning up in US sewers

The toilet flushes of millions of people can track the rise of dangerous new strains of the covid-19 virus.

A hyper-transmissible form of the coronavirus that causes covid-19 has been found in US sewer systems

in California and Florida, confirming its widening presence in the US.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/02/08/1017609/the-fast-spreading-coronavirus-variant-is-so-prevalent-its-turning-up-in-us-sewers/

[hater]

:lol fuck

Kids are never going back to school

After seeing two academic years thrown off course by the pandemic, school leaders around the country are planning for the possibility of more distance learning next fall at the start of yet another school year.

“We have no illusions that COVID will be eradicated by the time the start of the school year comes up,” said William “Chip” Sudderth III, a spokesperson for Durham, North Carolina schools, whose students have been out of school buildings since March.