Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[Winehole23]

There is no trick to the spike in India. Kumbh Mela has been going on for 2 1/2 weeks. They just stopped because some of the leader died.

Have millions of people pack together to do this and then blame it on the "strain".

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1fAiuy.img?h=1080&w=1920&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=fthat's part of it. another part of it is India deciding all on its own that it had already beaten COVID and unclenching too soon.

https://www.baaznews.org/p/modi-fail-covid-test

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzgLfWAXEAMcvZe?format=png&name=900x900

[hater]

Its a done deal pincushions

Get dat wonderbread ass ready for yearly shots :lmao

:lol darrin

:lol cumdumpster


Dr. Ozlem Tureci, co-founder and CMO of BioNTech, which developed a Covid vaccine with Pfizer, said she also expects people will need to get vaccinated against the coronavirus annually, like for the seasonal flu. That’s because, she said, scientists expect vaccine-induced immunity against the virus will decrease over time.

[ElNono]

Its a done deal pincushions

Get dat wonderbread ass ready for yearly shots :lmao

:lol darrin

:lol cumdumpster

Dr. Ozlem Tureci, co-founder and CMO of BioNTech, which developed a Covid vaccine with Pfizer, said she also expects people will need to get vaccinated against the coronavirus annually, like for the seasonal flu. That’s because, she said, scientists expect vaccine-induced immunity against the virus will decrease over time.

I'm sure that's what they'll prefer, but it's going to largely depend on the prevalence of the virus at that point in time.

I can see it being recommended for elderly people, for example, much like the flu vaccine.

[DarrinS]

Its a done deal pincushions

Get dat wonderbread ass ready for yearly shots :lmao

:lol darrin

:lol cumdumpster


Dr. Ozlem Tureci, co-founder and CMO of BioNTech, which developed a Covid vaccine with Pfizer, said she also expects people will need to get vaccinated against the coronavirus annually, like for the seasonal flu. That’s because, she said, scientists expect vaccine-induced immunity against the virus will decrease over time.


:lol

[SnakeBoy]

Moderna CEO said they want to make a combo coronavirus/influenza annual vaccine

I'm as pro vaccine as it gets but I don't think I would ever take that

[InRareForm]

Combo like fast food?

[ElNono]

Moderna CEO said they want to make a combo coronavirus/influenza annual vaccine

I'm as pro vaccine as it gets but I don't think I would ever take that

You could whatasize it... don't knock it till you tried it, tbh

[SnakeBoy]

Covid outbreak on Mt Everest...that can't be good.

[Winehole23]

Covid outbreak on Mt Everest...that can't be good.whatever, dude

COVID-19 Special: Coronavirus hotspot Brazil (https://www.dw.com/en/covid-19-special-coronavirus-hotspot-brazil/av-57278909)

[spurraider21]

Moderna CEO said they want to make a combo coronavirus/influenza annual vaccine

I'm as pro vaccine as it gets but I don't think I would ever take that
why

[ChumpDumper]

why

Right? Seems like a no brainer for old folk.

[DMX7]

Combo like fast food?

Yes, with a coke and fries. :lol

[coyotes_geek]

Moderna CEO said they want to make a combo coronavirus/influenza annual vaccine

I'm as pro vaccine as it gets but I don't think I would ever take that

Aren't we already doing this with other vaccines that people routinely take? DTaP and MMR come to mind. Not seeing the concern here.

[SnakeBoy]

why

I wouldn't choose an mrna influenza vaccine over an attenuated/inactivated influenza virus vaccine.

If the live attenuated virus covid vaccine gets approved (Covi-Vac), I'll pick that over the mRNA/viral vector vaccines. Then I won't need to worry about getting an annual covid vaccine for the rest of my life. Just a few times.


Aren't we already doing this with other vaccines that people routinely take? DTaP and MMR come to mind. Not seeing the concern here.

None of those are annual viruses/vaccines and none of them are mRNA.

[boutons_deux]

Millions Are Skipping Their Second Doses of Covid Vaccines

Nearly 8 percent of those who got initial Pfizer or Moderna shots missed their second doses. State officials want to prevent the numbers from rising.

More than five million people, or nearly 8 percent of those who got a first shot of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, have missed their second doses,

local health authorities are confronting an emerging challenge of ensuring that those who do get inoculated are doing so fully.

The reasons vary for why people are missing their second shots.

In interviews, some said they feared the side effects, which can include flulike symptoms.

Others said they felt that they were sufficiently protected with a single shot.

A number of vaccine providers have canceled second-dose appointments because they ran out of supply or didn’t have the right brand in stock.

Several Walgreens customers said in interviews that they scrambled, in some cases with help from pharmacy staff, to find somewhere to get the correct second dose.

Others, presumably, simply gave up.

the peril of people skipping their second doses.

Compared with the two-dose regimen,

a single shot triggers a weaker immune response and may leave recipients more susceptible to dangerous virus variants.

And even though a single dose provides partial protection against Covid, it’s not clear how long that protection will last.

“I’m very worried, because you need that second dose,”

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/25/business/covid-vaccines-second-doses.html

[Winehole23]

head on a swivel.

without good ventilation, the benefits of social distancing indoors are diminishing.

1385825233630744581

[hater]

head on a swivel.

without good ventilation, the benefits of social distancing indoors are diminishing.

1385825233630744581

Thats why u


Wear a fucking mask

[Winehole23]

Thats why u


Wear a fucking maskIn a restaurant?

Get outta here.

[DarrinS]

Thats why u


Wear a fucking mask


That's why u

Get fucking vaccinated

[Winehole23]

That's why u

Get fucking vaccinatedWhat's why you get vaccinated? So you can declare you and your kin mask free?

[Winehole23]

Covid: Smell training recommended for lost sense of smell (https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56865129)

[ChumpDumper]

What's why you get vaccinated? So you can declare you and your kin mask free?Well if enough Trumptards get vaccinated, hopefully we can all lose our masks.

[Winehole23]

it's anti-social not to mask up, regardless of vaccination status. a lot of people are still unprotected.

[hater]

In a restaurant?

Get outta here.

Yup everywhere


Wear a fucking mask

[hater]

That's why u

Get fucking vaccinated

Will do soon. In about 3 months.

U keep wearing a fucking mask :tu

[hater]

Or never :tu

Covid home cure pill from Pfizer could be available this year
Pfizer is conducting the stage one clinical trial on an oral antiviral therapy that a patient could take when they first develop symptoms

[ChumpDumper]

Waiting to get COVID when you can get the vaccine today is unbelievably stupid. :tu

[hater]

:wow

Sputnik 5 FTMFW

https://twitter.com/sputnikvaccine/status/1386306777851994124?s=19

Leaning towards flying to South America for that bad boy

[ChumpDumper]

:lol you're stupid

[hater]

:lol Im stupid

Yup your ignorance on vaccines proves it


SPUTNIK V is superior to any american garbage. It has been proven

Hater is getting that mofo

[ChumpDumper]

Yup your ignorance on vaccines proves it


SPUTNIK V is superior to any american garbage. It has been proven

Hater is getting that mofo:lmao you're incredibly stupid

[hater]

:lmao Im incredibly stupid

I tend to agree on that one :tu

[ElNono]

:wow

Sputnik 5 FTMFW

https://twitter.com/sputnikvaccine/status/1386306777851994124?s=19

Leaning towards flying to South America for that bad boy

Ehhh... I hope it's real, but without actually seeing how many times each vaccine was actually applied, it's disingenuous at best.

Also supply of Sputnik has been severely short. Only slightly over 7% of Russians have been vaccinated so far, which is a pretty dismal number.

[ChumpDumper]

I tend to agree on that one :tuYou're right up there with derp and ducks and Qhris on the stupid scale now.:tu

How you want to openly admit you're this stupid is...self-evident.:tu

[hater]

Ehhh... I hope it's real, but without actually seeing how many times each vaccine was actually applied, it's disingenuous at best.

Also supply of Sputnik has been severely short. Only slightly over 7% of Russians have been vaccinated so far, which is a pretty dismal number.

At least 25 countries are using and manufacturing it.

Sputnin V will save the world:tu

[hater]

You're right up there with derp and ducks and Qhris on the stupid scale now.:tu

How you want to openly admit you're this stupid is...self-evident.:tu

U have no scientific evidence to show that Sput ik is a shit vaccine. Thus the stupidity is 110% on your side. :lol

Otherwise prove me wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

U have no scientific evidence to show that Sput ik is a shit vaccine.The fact you immediately built a straw man proves just how stupid you are.:tu

[hater]

The fact you immediately built a straw man proves just how stupid you are.:tu

You built it yourself dumbshit :lol

U called me incredibly stupid for saying Sputnik is a great vacvine and maybe the best overall so far. (Safety + efficacy)

You have no evidence or basis for it. Thus you are the stupid conspiracy nut :lmao. #blueanon :lmao


Otherwise prove me wrong...

[ChumpDumper]

You built it yourself dumbshit :lol

U called me incredibly stupid for saying Sputnik is a great vacvine and maybe the best overall so far. (Safety + efficacy)

You have no evidence or basis for it. Thus you are the stupid conspiracy nut :lmao. #blueanon :lmao


Otherwise prove me wrong...No I called you stupid for planning an intercontinental trip to buy a vaccine that will do nothing more than the vaccine you could have gotten for free a month ago down the street.:tu

Do you understand why you're stupid now?

Yes or no.

[hater]

No I called you stupid for planning an intercontinental trip to buy a vaccine that will do nothing more than the vaccine you could have gotten for free a month ago down the street.:tu

Do you understand why you're stupid now?

Yes or no.

:lmao intercontinental :lmao

So u do agree Sputnik V is a great vaccine? Yes or no?

[ElNono]

At least 25 countries are using and manufacturing it.

Sputnin V will save the world:tu

I know for a fact Argentina has been using it, but supply has been incredibly short, and Russia has had trouble manufacturing it at a large scale. Hope that changes.

[hater]

I know for a fact Argentina has been using it, but supply has been incredibly short, and Russia has had trouble manufacturing it at a large scale. Hope that changes.

Could be that SA countries ordered just a few. I believe most SA sputnik users have used theirs all up on their medics and 1st responders


Hopefully it saves India as well

https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/1385847100403970048?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao intercontinental :lmao

Leaning towards flying to South America for that bad boy
:lol hater


So u do agree Sputnik V is a great vaccine? Yes or no?It might be. It definitely won't do anything more the ones you could've gotten a month ago do. Which is why you're stupid.

Sorry, question pending.

Do you know why you're stupid now?

Yes or no.

[hater]

:lol hater

It might be. It definitely won't do anything more the ones you could've gotten a month ago do. Which is why you're stupid.

Sorry, question pending.

Do you know why you're stupid now?

Yes or no.

:lmao South America is 4 hr flight from where I am stupid fuck

:lmao interc:lolntinental :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao South America is 4 hr flight from where I am stupid fuck

:lmao interc:lolntinental :lolWhat continent are you currently on, hater?

[ChumpDumper]

:lol I drove a total of thirty miles to get fully vaccinated for free.

[boutons_deux]

$1 Million in Toxic Bleach Sold as ‘Miracle’ Cure, Officials Say

A Florida grand jury indicted a man and his three sons, accusing them of

marketing an “unproven and potentially harmful” solution

as a remedy for Covid-19, cancer, autism and more.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/25/us/miracle-bleach-cure-covid-19.html

Trash suggested bleach as cure, and the scammers screw, maybe damage the Trash believers

[ElNono]

Could be that SA countries ordered just a few. I believe most SA sputnik users have used theirs all up on their medics and 1st responders

Hopefully it saves India as well

https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/1385847100403970048?s=19

You want to hear something sad about India? My mom in SA got the AstraZeneca vaccine made in India...

[hater]

:lol I drove a total of thirty miles to get fully vaccinated for free.

:lol pussy

[hater]

You want to hear something sad about India? My mom in SA got the AstraZeneca vaccine made in India...

:tu

Mi mama too ma nig. In Colombia. :tu

[DarrinS]

:lol I drove a total of thirty miles to get fully vaccinated for free.

:lol

I drove 4 miles

[ChumpDumper]

:lol you had to write code for an appointment because you wanted to brag about it

[DarrinS]

:lol

I drove 4 miles


:lol you had to write code for an appointment because you wanted to brag about it



I got appointments for 27 people. Most of them, I don't know.

[DarrinS]

So, I'm guessing my code helped more people than chump's virtue signaling.

[DarrinS]

Demand seems to have gone down, as no one has asked for my help in over a week.

[ChumpDumper]

So, I'm guessing my code helped more people than chump's virtue signaling.I told people how the APH system worked as it worked very smoothly for me, no cheating necessary.

Even though you immediately accused me of cheating.:lmao

No, all you did was give people with connections a way to jump the line.

And brag about it.

Because that's all that really matters to you.:tu

[ChumpDumper]

Demand seems to have gone down, as no one has asked for my help in over a week.

:lmao thanks for confirming you think the world revolves around you, Darrin.

[DarrinS]

I told people how the APH system worked as it worked very smoothly for me, no cheating necessary.

Even though you immediately accused me of cheating.:lmao

No, all you did was give people with connections a way to jump the line.

And brag about it.

Because that's all that really matters to you.:tu


I helped numerous people over 65. What did you do?

Dickslap with derp 24/7?

[ChumpDumper]

I helped numerous people over 65. What did you do?Same.:tu

Without cheating.:tu

Or bragging about cheating.:tu

See the difference, Darrin?

[DarrinS]

It was difficult to get older folks appointments, because there were so many younger people lying about "pre-existing conditions".

[ChumpDumper]

It was difficult to get older folks appointments, because there were so many younger people lying about "pre-existing conditions".Sure it was.

Because you could see everyone who was applying at all times, right?

[DarrinS]

Sure it was.

Because you could see everyone who was applying at all times, right?


Defensive much?

[ChumpDumper]

Defensive much?:lmao are you passively aggressively accusing me of cheating again?

Be a man and just say it, Darrin.

I dare you.

[DarrinS]

:lmao are you passively aggressively accusing me of cheating again?

Be a man and just say it, Darrin.

I dare you.

I'm sure you qualified, based on obesity.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm sure you qualified, based on obesity.:lol classic projection

Never been fat.

Unlike you.

:lol short AND fat

[Winehole23]

So much for the blame it on China lobby

1386538729574109184

[hater]

So much for the blame it on China lobby

1386538729574109184

Interesting.

In 2019 I had a really bad cold/flu. Fever, chills, etc. It was first time in years. Cant remember the exact date tho

[DarrinS]

So much for the blame it on China lobby

1386538729574109184


I remember posting about this last summer.

Its likely a contaminated sample or false positive.

[Winehole23]

I remember posting about this last summer.

Its likely a contaminated sample or false positive.It's more evidence than you have

[hater]

I remember posting about this last summer.

Its likely a contaminated sample or false positive.

They can easily rule those out by 2nd test. Which they probably did. So no

[DarrinS]

It's more evidence than you have


No hospitals filling up with mystery respiratory illness.

[hater]

No hospitals filling up with mystery respiratory illness.

Mutations are real. See title of my this thread.

[DarrinS]

Mutations are real. See title of my this thread.

There's a reason that paper remains on preprint server.

[hater]

There's a reason that paper remains on preprint server.

"The research has been submitted for a peer review. "

Agreed

[lefty]

iTs a hOaX

iT cAn’T hApPeN tO yOuNg HeAltHy pEoPlE

1385976192872878081

[Winehole23]

No hospitals filling up with mystery respiratory illness.Exactly, you have precisely nothing. I can at least point to a stool sample from 2019.

[DarrinS]

Exactly, you have precisely nothing. I can at least point to a stool sample from 2019.



http://usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/07/fact-check-coronavirus-found-march-2019-wastewater-sample/5350878002/

[Winehole23]

http://usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/07/fact-check-coronavirus-found-march-2019-wastewater-sample/5350878002/Sure, needs more study:tu

It's still more concrete evidence than you have for your "China did it" theory.

[SpursforSix]

Fuck me. I was going to trademark that as a rock band name. Stuel Sample. With an umlaut.

[DarrinS]

Sure, needs more study:tu

It's still more concrete evidence than you have for your "China did it" theory.

:rolleyes

[Ef-man]

Fuck me. I was going to trademark that as a rock band name. Stuel Sample. With an umlaut.

Bend over and I will trademark your stuel sample with my umlaut!

[Winehole23]

:rolleyesemoji = white flag

[DarrinS]

emoji = white flag

Muh preprint dukie paper proves it didn't start in Wuhan. :lmao

[DMC]

Odd that the outbreak started in Wuhan then :lol

[spurraider21]

hater is really impressionable tbh :lol... his opinion on the best vaccine seems to change daily

[spurraider21]

I got appointments for 27 people. Most of them, I don't know.


So, I'm guessing my code helped more people than chump's virtue signaling.
but you are literally virtue signaling

[Winehole23]

Odd that the outbreak started in Wuhan then :lolthe location of the first identified outbreak doesn't tend to prove that anyone "did it"

[DMC]

the location of the first identified outbreak doesn't tend to prove that anyone "did it"

Saying it was present in Spain is trying to disprove anyone did it, and that's ok though, right?

[DMC]

but you are literally virtue signaling

I think he was trying to illustrate how effective the method was, not how virtuous he was by doing it, but feel free to lawyer around truth per par. Besides, virtue signaling (ding) is advertising your opinions, not about advertising your deeds.

[baseline bum]

hater is really impressionable tbh :lol... his opinion on the best vaccine seems to change daily

Bitched about herd immunity strategy then chose it for himself.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol as long as the virtue signaling is "effective"

[DMC]

hater is really impressionable tbh :lol... his opinion on the best vaccine seems to change daily

I've decided hater is a joint account in a favela somewhere in Brazil, 40 or so residents use it.

[boutons_deux]

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=c5ffe9fe07&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r460191516068503726&th=1790ff593f96377a&view=fimg&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ8v8HZK9duiaICqDL0yzPk3goVCgwigEXoxH9K SJ8wnPpIOWM43zllkqoBmGvSfXqOKRM07HS2xo8Ys--AvR-e9JSo-jtqwZ-RoB5H8RvGO-S_AKEOViItA2KM&disp=emb&realattid=ii_knyy1d1s0

[hater]

hater is really impressionable tbh :lol... his opinion on the best vaccine seems to change daily

Correct. Thats why its sensible to wait a year on these experimental vaccines.

So far

1. Sputnik.V
2. Moderna
3. Pfizer

Dont know much about the chinese ones tbh so maybe they rank higher.

Ill probably have to settle w Moderna. But will keep waiting a bit :tu

[hater]

Bitched about herd immunity strategy then chose it for himself.

Wait u think we.gonna reach herd immunity w these vaccines??? :lmao

[hater]

I've decided hater is a joint account in a favela somewhere in Brazil, 40 or so residents use it.

Says the guy whos solution was to firebomb Wuhan in late April 2020 :lmao :lol

Yes when the virus was already worldwide :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

Wait u think we.gonna reach herd immunity w these vaccines??? :lmao

Yeah, not happening. 20-25% of Republicans and 10% of Dems do not trust it, for whatever reason.

Moderna is working on mixing a yearly booster shot in with your flu shot so it's convienent and a 1 shot deal, annually.

[hater]

Yeah, not happening. 20-25% of Republicans and 10% of Dems do not trust it, for whatever reason.

Moderna is working on mixing a yearly booster shot in with your flu shot so it's convienent and a 1 shot deal, annually.

Not to mention rest of the world is at < 10% vaccination

At this rate well vaccinate the required 80% of humans..... probably never :lol

You add the 30 or 40% of young mostly vaccine dodgers and you have a failed herd immunity policy tbqh as I predicted.

I always said we need to work on medicines and theurapeutics as thise will help us way more than mediocre vaccines.

This virus is here to stay but "lets go for an impossible herd immunity with shitty vaccines. That will work!" :lmao

Called it

[ChumpDumper]

Not to mention rest of the world is at < 10% vaccination

At this rate well vaccinate the required 80% of humans..... probably never :lol

You add the 30 or 40% of young mostly vaccine dodgers and you have a failed herd immunity policy tbqh as I predicted.

I always said we need to work on medicines and theurapeutics as thise will help us way more than mediocre vaccines.

This virus is here to stay but "lets go for an impossible herd immunity with shitty vaccines. That will work!" :lmao

Called itIf you don't take the vaccine you can just get COVID.

Your choice.

[boutons_deux]

Coronavirus traces found in March 2019 sewage sample

Spanish virologists have found traces of the novel coronavirus in a sample of Barcelona waste water collected in March 2019,

nine months before the COVID-19 disease was identified in China, the University of Barcelona said on Friday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-science/coronavirus-traces-found-in-march-2019-sewage-sample-spanish-study-shows-idUSKBN23X2HQ

[hater]

If you don't take the vaccine you can just get COVID.

Your choice.

My chances of catching covid from today until 6 months from now (when Ill most likely will get the jab) is probably very minimal. So I disagree w ur statement

I do agree if I never get the vacvine Ill most likely get covid. But thats not my plan.

[Dirks_Finale]

Not to mention rest of the world is at < 10% vaccination

At this rate well vaccinate the required 80% of humans..... probably never :lol

You add the 30 or 40% of young mostly vaccine dodgers and you have a failed herd immunity policy tbqh as I predicted.

I always said we need to work on medicines and theurapeutics as thise will help us way more than mediocre vaccines.

This virus is here to stay but "lets go for an impossible herd immunity with shitty vaccines. That will work!" :lmao

Called it

Yup - that's the ticket.

[ChumpDumper]

My chances of catching covid from today until 6 months from now (when Ill most likely will get the jab) is probably very minimal. So I disagree w ur statementI'm sure a bunch of people who caught it felt the same way.:tu

It's totally your fault if you get it.

[hater]

Yup - that's the ticket.

Supposedly pfizer has a pill that will kill Corona within the 1st 12 hours of symptoms :tu

[hater]

I'm sure a bunch of people who caught it felt the same way.:tu

Im sure the vast majority that caught it were being stupid. (No masks, congregating, etc)

If you take basic precautions you reduce the probability greatly

[ChumpDumper]

Im sure the vast majority that caught it were being stupid. (No masks, congregating, etc)

If you take basic precautions you reduce the probability greatly:lol you went to Disney World.

[hater]

:lol you went to Disney World.

Yup and survived :lmao

Precautions work. Thanks for proving my point.

[ChumpDumper]

Yup and survived :lmao

Precautions work. Thanks for proving my point.:lol thanks for being a moron.

Nothing is going to change for the vaccines in six months.

[hater]

:lol thanks for being a moron.

Nothing is going to change for the vaccines in six months.

Ok Dr.

[ChumpDumper]

Ok Dr.All the doctors told you to take the vaccine.

[DMX7]

I don't think we need 80% to get to herd immunity or at least something that resembles normal life again.

I wonder what the real percentage of people who have gotten the virus and were asymptomatic is. I bet it's a huge number (definitely not close to what is reported or inferred from what is reported)

[RandomGuy]

tl;dr

masking mitigates contagiousness, saves $$$ and lives.

https://deadline.com/2021/01/us-mask...dp-1234675811/


Lololoooooop

Just like California and Japan.


Lol not over capacity. Ironic this is in California. You know with all the bans and masks. They worked? Yes or no.....

In dramatic turnaround, California now has the lowest coronavirus case rate in the U.S.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/in-dramatic-turnaround-california-now-has-the-lowest-coronavirus-case-rate-in-the-us/ar-BB1g4L04


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Foldren wrong.

Again.

[RandomGuy]

I don't think we need 80% to get to herd immunity or at least something that resembles normal life again.

I wonder what the real percentage of people who have gotten the virus and were asymptomatic is. I bet it's a huge number (definitely not close to what is reported or inferred from what is reported)

Approx 85M so far, in all likelihood.

(take 550k dead divided by the best guess fatality rate of .0066)

Fatality rate will fall as vaccinations go up, so each new fatality will indicate more and more infections. That will make that calc a lot harder as time goes by.

It will simply become another yearly shot most of us will have to get, like the flu.

[boutons_deux]

https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/20210415edphc-a_0.jpg?itok=K-6VbO5Q

[Winehole23]

Saying it was present in Spain is trying to disprove anyone did it, and that's ok though, right?Why isn't it ok? You and Darrin have offered nothing but speculation for your own point.

[DarrinS]

Yup and survived :lmao

Precautions work. Thanks for proving my point.

Have you considered the possibility you already had covid? You can get tested for antibodies.

[DarrinS]

Coronavirus traces found in March 2019 sewage sample

Spanish virologists have found traces of the novel coronavirus in a sample of Barcelona waste water collected in March 2019,

nine months before the COVID-19 disease was identified in China, the University of Barcelona said on Friday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-science/coronavirus-traces-found-in-march-2019-sewage-sample-spanish-study-shows-idUSKBN23X2HQ


Déjà vu all over again

[Winehole23]

Turkey to lock down nationwide


Turks will be required to stay mostly at home under a nationwide “full lockdown” starting on Thursday and lasting until May 17 to curb a surge in coronavirus infections and deaths, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has announced.
Turkey logged 37,312 new COVID-19 infections and 353 deaths in the previous 24 hours on Monday, health ministry data showed, sharply down from mid-April but still the world’s fourth highest number of cases.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/4/26/turkey-announces-full-lockdown-in-bid-to-halt-covid-surge

[Winehole23]

Pre-publication.

n=3,000, all men.

Mixed news for Dr. Darrin: HCQ plus povidone iodine throat spray could be a viable preventative, but no signficant value was found for Ivermectin or Zinc plus vitamin C.

https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(21)00345-3/pdf

[Winehole23]

Air pollution: Asia's deadliest public health crisis isn't COVID (https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/The-Big-Story/Air-pollution-Asia-s-deadliest-public-health-crisis-isn-t-COVID)


The World Health Organization advises that a mean annual PM2.5 reading of 10 micrograms per cubic meter is safe, but less than 8% of the world's population has such clean air.


A study published in the journal Cardiovascular Research detailed the extent of the tragedy in 2015, the most recent year where such detailed comparisons are available. The study put excess mortality attributable to ambient air pollution at nearly 8.8 million globally, of which nearly 6.5 million were in Asia.

[DMC]

Says the guy whos solution was to firebomb Wuhan in late April 2020 :lmao :lol

Yes when the virus was already worldwide :lol

You're too stupid to get dates right and too 3rd world to understand movie references.

[DMC]

Why isn't it ok? You and Darrin have offered nothing but speculation for your own point.
Proof doesn't exist in either. Someone could have tainted the sample from Spain, someone from China, for example. There are a lot of possibilities and you seem to understand that for proof of one thing, but not for proof of the opposite.

You're consistently playing a double standard card and seem to insist you should get away with it, or that the reader should move on if they don't like it. Sober up.

[Winehole23]

Proof doesn't exist in either. Someone could have tainted the sample from Spain, someone from China, for example. There are a lot of possibilities and you seem to understand that for proof of one thing, but not for proof of the opposite.

You're consistently playing a double standard card and seem to insist you should get away with it, or that the reader should move on if they don't like it. Sober up.I can see how you would think that, but you're amiss. You took teasing words in philosophical strictness, because you are a pedant. And because you were indeed one of the targets.

Gotcha again.

[hater]

You're too stupid to get dates right and too 3rd world to understand movie references.

:lmao prove it. You suggested bombing Wuhan after it was a worldwide epidemic :lmao :lol

Stupid ass.motherfucker :lmao

[DarrinS]

Pre-publication.

n=3,000, all men.

Mixed news for Dr. Darrin: HCQ plus povidone iodine throat spray could be a viable preventative, but no signficant value was found for Ivermectin or Zinc plus vitamin C.

https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(21)00345-3/pdf


More pre-publication doo doo from WH.

The data on Ivermectin is incontrovertible

[Winehole23]

More pre-publication doo doo from WH.

The data on Ivermectin is incontrovertibleIf you say so, Dr Darrin.

Are you"doo dooing" the good news about HCQ? Did you switch brand loyalty? :lol

[pgardn]

More pre-publication doo doo from WH.

The data on Ivermectin is incontrovertible

Cool with me as long as these other supposed preventatives are not used INSTEAD of a vaccine by people who have no physical problem getting vaccinated. Because we know the vaccine works extraordinarily well. This last administration being so anti-science has caused concern about how to pose these things to the public who clearly have a penchant for the most bizarre derptocrapic thinking.

[DarrinS]

If you say so, Dr Darrin.

Are you"doo dooing" the good news about HCQ? Did you switch brand loyalty? :lol

I don't care about HCQ.

[DarrinS]

Cool with me as long as these other supposed preventatives are not used INSTEAD of a vaccine by people who have no physical problem getting vaccinated. Because we know the vaccine works extraordinarily well. This last administration being so anti-science has caused concern about how to pose these things to the public who clearly have a penchant for the most bizarre derptocrapic thinking.

The last admin made these vaccines possible, by pre ordering.

[DarrinS]

If you say so, Dr Darrin.

Are you"doo dooing" the good news about HCQ? Did you switch brand loyalty? :lol


There is no brand for HCQ or Ivermectin, btw. Patents long expired. They are generic.

[Winehole23]

The last admin made these vaccines possible, by pre ordering.True.

We also had one-sixth of the world's total COVID deaths here in the USA because of the Trump administration's lies, bullshit and incompetence.

572,666 deaths

[Winehole23]

There is no brand for HCQ or Ivermectin, btw. Patents long expired. They are generic.Thanks, Doc

[ChumpDumper]

I don't care about HCQ.Not anymore....

[ChumpDumper]

The last admin made these vaccines possible, by pre ordering.What president wouldn't do just that?

[SnakeBoy]

The data on Ivermectin is incontrovertible

There is no good data on ivermectin

[DarrinS]

True.

We also had one-sixth of the world's total COVID deaths here in the USA because of the Trump administration's lies, bullshit and incompetence.

572,666 deaths



If there was some proven treatment, we'd lose EUA for vaccines.

[DarrinS]

There is no good data on ivermectin


Other than the dozens of RCTs.

[Winehole23]

If there was some proven treatment, we'd lose EUA for vaccines.How do you figure?

[DarrinS]

There is no good data on ivermectin

You watch twiv, so you can make it through this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InRC11vWBlU&pp=QACIAgA%3D

[DarrinS]

How do you figure?

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/mcm-legal-regulatory-and-policy-framework/emergency-use-authorization

[Winehole23]

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/mcm-legal-regulatory-and-policy-framework/emergency-use-authorizationSounds like your claim depends on how "adequate" is defined by the FDA.

How does the FDA define it? What threshhold of efficacy would have to be met?

[Winehole23]

encouraging


https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/covid-cases-midwest-11.png

[DarrinS]

Sounds like your claim depends on how "adequate" is defined by the FDA.

How does the FDA define it? What threshhold of efficacy would have to be met?

Didn't make any claims. Posted a link.

[Winehole23]

Didn't make any claims. Posted a link.Yeah, you did. You said EUAs for vaccines would no longer be in effect if an "adequate" treatment were to be discovered.

[Winehole23]

Contextually, it's clear you're referring to Ivermectin, and that you do think it's an adequate preventative for COVID-19.

"Incontrovertible evidence," right?

[DarrinS]

Yeah, you did. You said EUAs for vaccines would no longer be in effect if an "adequate" treatment were to be discovered.

Pretty much laid out in first 40 seconds of this video


https://youtu.be/iGkwaESsGBQ

[ChumpDumper]

So Darrin has an Ivermectin conspiracy theory.:tu

[DarrinS]

Contextually, it's clear you're referring to Ivermectin, and that you do think it's an adequate preventative for COVID-19.

"Incontrovertible evidence," right?


I've been following it. Obviously, you have not.

[Winehole23]

I've been following it. Obviously, you have not.I've posted a few things here on Ivermectin, but I'm not committed personally like you. I have no reason to doubt you've read everything you can that agrees with your conclusion.

I notice you brushed off Snake Boy with a rough count of studies and zero cites, is it possible he knows the lit and the science somewhat better that you?

[DarrinS]

So Darrin has an Ivermectin conspiracy theory.:tu

I don't think big pharma has an interest in generics.

[Winehole23]

I don't think big pharma has an interest in generics.If generics were suppressed, where did the 100s of favorable studies come from?

Aren't doctors actually using Ivermectin and HCQ for COVID prevention?

[DarrinS]

I've posted a few things here on Ivermectin, but I'm not committed personally like you. I have no reason to doubt you've read everything you can that agrees with your conclusion.

I notice you brushed off Snake Boy with a rough count of studies and zero cites, is it possible he knows the lit and the science somewhat better that you?


You were "all in" on that poop study, but doubt meta analysis of numero RCTs.

[Winehole23]

You were "all in" on that poop study, but doubt meta analysis of numero RCTs. Fleeting derision directed at you isn't "all in" on the point made, the poop study was more less a prop -- though it is more evidence than you appear to have for your "China did it to us" caterwauling.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't think big pharma has an interest in generics.So you have an Ivermectin conspiracy theory.:tu

[boutons_deux]

Miami Private School Informs Parents

Vaccinated Teachers “May Be Transmitting Something From Their Bodies”

informing parents in a letter (https://centneracademy.myschoolapp.com/podium/push/default.aspx?i=202949&s=1710&snd=96ae4246-5140-46aa-8bc2-c5a6e606044a) Monday that it will not employ any staff that has received a coronavirus vaccination and those that have gotten vaccinated will be asked to isolate from students,

“reports :lol have surfaced ( :lol like turds) recently of

non-vaccinated people being negatively impacted by interacting with people who have been vaccinated.”

300 students paying up to $30,000 a year in tuition, and

promotes itself as a “happiness school” that

values “emotional intelligence” and mindfulness.

Science, not so much.

Vaccinated adults “may be transmitting something from their bodies” that could be impacting the “reproductive systems, fertility, and normal growth and development in women and children,”

“Even among our own population, we have at least three women with menstrual cycles impacted after having spent time with a vaccinated person.”

Those who have already been vaccinated will not be allowed to return to the classroom or be near the students.

not to employ anyone who has taken the experimental COVID-19 injection until further information is known,”

The Centners were big Trump donors and Republican contributors and

Leila Centner, the New York Times notes, is a frequent sharer of anti-vax misinformation on Facebook.

The school itself states that it aims to help students in “overcoming biases and the pervasive effects of ‘group think.’”

It also features prominently a vaccine policy (https://centneracademy.com/our-vaccine-policy) it touts (https://centneracademy.com/medical-freedom-from-mandated-vaccines) as “Medical Freedom from Mandated Vaccines.”

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/04/miami-centner-school-letter-vaccinated-teachers-misinformation.html (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/04/miami-centner-school-letter-vaccinated-teachers-misinformation.html)

[hater]

:lmao.dr darrin

[pgardn]

The last admin made these vaccines possible, by pre ordering.

And pre ordering was a huge step no other adm would have made... Nope, its like admitting a virus caused the disorder, like this was a some decision a blue administration would never admit to.

The last adm made masks and vaccinations a political statement.
Which was MUCH more harmful. Look at your red team members on this site that still adhere to the political statement.
And you get to claim your freedom from masks, like this was the biggest problem the disease caused? This is derp like.

[Trill Clinton]

1386837979453399049

This guy is insane

[Winehole23]

Pretty much laid out in first 40 seconds of this videoSame fashion as the FDA link, "available, approved, adequate." It's not at all clear that Ivermectin is "adequate," despite your superlatives. Nor is it clear that -- had Ivermectin been found "adequate" -- EUAs for vaccines would have been impossible. At the end of the day, the FDA gets to decide what its regulations mean and how to apply them.

The proposition that Ivermectin could have undermined EUAs for vaccines seems outlandish next to the 2020 US death toll. It's also very doubtful that it would have been politically tolerated, by Trump or anyone else.

[Winehole23]

1386837979453399049

This guy is insane"famous libertarian urges viewers to call CPS over differences in parenting"

[boutons_deux]

1386837979453399049

This guy is insane

$6M/year for being insane

[Winehole23]

COVID hospitaliztions are trending younger in Brazil and Italy

https://twitter.com/Dr_FarrisD/status/1386065510396309506?s=20

[hater]

COVID hospitaliztions are trending younger in Brazil and Italy

https://twitter.com/Dr_FarrisD/status/1386065510396309506?s=20

1 year old just died of covid in US. Weird shit

[DarrinS]

https://c19early.com

[Winehole23]

https://c19early.comWhat's in the rear view mirror isn't predictive for a moving target like a virus.

[DarrinS]

What's in the rear view mirror isn't predictive for a moving target like a virus.

Deep thoughts

[Winehole23]

Deep thoughtsno, it's a commonplace that seems to have eluded you.

[DarrinS]

There is no good data on ivermectin


There's tons

https://c19early.com


What data was used to authorize Remdesivir? At $3k per treatment. They gave that shit to the very first covid patient in the US.

[hater]

There's tons

https://c19early.com


What data was used to authorize Remdesivir? At $3k per treatment. They gave that shit to the very first covid patient in the US.

Theybshould have given it to the 600k that died huh.

[SnakeBoy]

There's tons

https://c19early.com


What data was used to authorize Remdesivir? At $3k per treatment. They gave that shit to the very first covid patient in the US.

All the ivermectin studies are badly flawed

Remdesivir was authorized and called the standard of care based on an very good NIH study that clearly demonstrated it does not work :lol

I think it's clear by now that the NIH has no interest in cheap generic therapeutics but that doesn't mean that bad ivermectin studies are good.

In India right now...

“Out of every 10 Covid patients, four of them come up to hospitals after venturing with one or two of the medicines used in the treatment of Covid. All these medicines should be taken in the hospital settings, under a trained physician. We have seen that people mostly self-prescribe ivermectin and doxycycline,” said Dr Yatin Mehta, chairman, critical care department at Medanta Hospital, Gurugram.

The ivermectin pushers used to say look at Brazil, well look at Brazil.

[boutons_deux]

Do Covid-19 Vaccines Prevent Infection And Transmission?

three to four weeks after the first dose the incidence of asymptomatic infections (people who tested positive but experienced no symptoms of the disease) was reduced by 52% when compared to the control population,

This reduction in the number of infections rose to 90% as early as seven days after the second dose.

This means that one week after the last inoculation, a person had ten times less risk of being unknowingly infected and potentially transmitting the virus.

two to three weeks after the first jab of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, protection against a symptomatic infection (disease with symptoms) was 57%, and

reached 74% regarding the risk of hospitalisation.

One week after the second injection, protection attained the excellent level of 92%, whether in terms of experiencing symptoms or being hospitalised.

All these studies highlight the necessary time period after each inoculation to acquire initial immunisation, and the importance of the second dose to gain full protection.

https://scienceblog.com/522486/do-covid-19-vaccines-prevent-infection-and-transmission

[SnakeBoy]

Do Covid-19 Vaccines Prevent Infection And Transmission?

three to four weeks after the first dose the incidence of asymptomatic infections (people who tested positive but experienced no symptoms of the disease) was reduced by 52% when compared to the control population,

This reduction in the number of infections rose to 90% as early as seven days after the second dose.

This means that one week after the last inoculation, a person had ten times less risk of being unknowingly infected and potentially transmitting the virus.

two to three weeks after the first jab of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, protection against a symptomatic infection (disease with symptoms) was 57%, and

reached 74% regarding the risk of hospitalisation.

One week after the second injection, protection attained the excellent level of 92%, whether in terms of experiencing symptoms or being hospitalised.

All these studies highlight the necessary time period after each inoculation to acquire initial immunisation, and the importance of the second dose to gain full protection.

https://scienceblog.com/522486/do-covid-19-vaccines-prevent-infection-and-transmission




That's not going to hold true. After vaccination antibodies rise high enough to block infection but they won't stay that high forever. You don't want them to. So a year (or whenever) from now antibody levels will drop and people will get infected then it will take a couple of days for your body to crank up antibodies again (memory b cells). So there will be a lot of asymptomatic infections. Eventually everybody gets "infected" with hopefully very little disease. No way around that.

[boutons_deux]

Joe Rogan tells his massive audience that healthy young people shouldn't get vaccinated

https://theweek.com/speedreads/979849/joe-rogan-tells-massive-audience-that-healthy-young-people-shouldnt-vaccinated

Fuck Joe Rogan, irresponsible prick full of himself

[DMC]

I can see how you would think that, but you're amiss. You took teasing words in philosophical strictness, because you are a pedant. And because you were indeed one of the targets.

Gotcha again.

:lol says stupid shit
:lol gets called out
:lol plays the "trololol" card

:lmao needed to edit just to get there

[DMC]

:lmao prove it. You suggested bombing Wuhan after it was a worldwide epidemic :lmao :lol

Stupid ass.motherfucker :lmao

In Popular Culture
In the 1995 film Outbreak, starring Dustin Hoffman, a fuel-air bomb was used in the story to wipe out a village to cover up knowledge of a deadly virus. In the season one finale of the television show The Walking Dead, the Center for Disease control in Georgia it destroyed by an HIT. The building's artificial intelligence activated it to prevent the spread of the diseases that were kept inside, since the building had run out of fuel for the generators that kept the diseases controlled.[68][69]

:lol 3rd worlder

[ChumpDumper]

TFW you have to explain your 26 year old joke....

[RandomGuy]

COVID hospitaliztions are trending younger in Brazil and Italy

https://twitter.com/Dr_FarrisD/status/1386065510396309506?s=20

True second wave mutations tend to hit younger populations, if memory serves.

[Winehole23]

:lol says stupid shit
:lol gets called out
:lol plays the "trololol" card

:lmao needed to edit just to get therefour emojis, huh?

are you sure you're feeling confident?

[RandomGuy]

four emojis, huh?

are you sure you're feeling confident?

Honestly not even sure what the fuck he is talking about. Too lazy to even connect the dots. :lol

[Winehole23]

Honestly not even sure what the fuck he is talking about. Too lazy to even connect the dots. :lolhe seems to think his dagger is dripping with my blood, but this an anonymous forum in cyberspace.

[ChumpDumper]

Honestly not even sure what the fuck he is talking about. Too lazy to even connect the dots. :lol

Might be a reference to a 25 year old movie.

[DMC]

four emojis, huh?

are you sure you're feeling confident?

Says the self editing "trolololol" card player.

Got any more fake news tweets?

[DMC]

Honestly not even sure what the fuck he is talking about. Too lazy to even connect the dots. :lol

Shocking.

[hater]

In Popular Culture
In the 1995 film Outbreak, starring Dustin Hoffman, a fuel-air bomb was used in the story to wipe out a village to cover up knowledge of a deadly virus. In the season one finale of the television show The Walking Dead, the Center for Disease control in Georgia it destroyed by an HIT. The building's artificial intelligence activated it to prevent the spread of the diseases that were kept inside, since the building had run out of fuel for the generators that kept the diseases controlled.[68][69]

:lol 3rd worlder

I saw outbreak dumbo

The airborne virus was only located in that town why did they know that for sure. I dont know maybe because IT WAS A FUCKING HOLLYWOOD MOVIE :lmao


You suggested bombing wuhan when the virus was already in other areas (s korea, iran, italy)


I cant even...

[Winehole23]

Says the self editing "trolololol" card player.sometimes you barely make any sense

[DMC]

I saw outbreak dumbo

The airborne virus was only located in that town why did they know that for sure. I dont know maybe because IT WAS A FUCKING HOLLYWOOD MOVIE :lmao


You suggested bombing wuhan when the virus was already in other areas (s korea, iran, italy)


I cant even...

Idiot :lol

It was to keep the people there from telling anyone. They had the virus and the cure.

Jesus you're too stupid to even read.

[DMC]

sometimes you barely make any sense

I was trolling you and you fell for it hook, line and sinker... jajajajaja

[Winehole23]

grudgeposting is drudgery, but you sure seem to like it

[DarrinS]

grudgeposting is drudgery, but you sure seem to like it

Don't you bump threads that are a decade old?

[pgardn]

Don't you bump threads that are a decade old?

He has.

And he usually attaches an article update.
Which makes the poster a useful source if you are interested.
And the update is not a derptal source.

[DarrinS]

He has.

And he usually attaches an article update.
Which makes the poster a useful source if you are interested.
And the update is not a derptal source.


White Knight,

Does he consider that people may have different opinions after 10 years?

[Winehole23]

what I don't get is the derision about editing.

sometimes it makes sense to reflect briefly and rephrase. that's not the same as editing post reply, to fade the heat.

[Winehole23]

Don't you bump threads that are a decade old?Is American history over a decade old?

[Winehole23]

Don't you bump threads that are a decade old?Is this website a decade old?

[Winehole23]

Don't you bump threads that are a decade old?How long is your posting history in this forum?

[DarrinS]

what I don't get is the derision about editing.

sometimes it makes sense to reflect briefly and rephrase. that's not the same as editing post reply, to fade the heat.


Is American history over a decade old?


Is this website a decade old?


How long is your posting history in this forum?


Quadruple defenthive mini-melt

[pgardn]

White Knight,

Does he consider that people may have different opinions after 10 years?

Oh and Darrin's the black knight... ohhh....

I dont know.
I do know its relevant to the topic.
Which makes it much more useful.
You dont like this?

[Winehole23]

Quadruple defenthive mini-meltnope, you ducked

[DarrinS]

10+ years is a sad amount of time to wait for a grudgepost. :lol

[Winehole23]

10+ years is a sad amount of time to wait for a grudgepost. :lolyou're ignoring the topical continuity while focusing on the grudge, underscoring my point.

Thank you, Darrin.

[Winehole23]

in no way is it absurd to talk about something that happened ten years ago on a current events board.

nor is it outlandish to keep the conversation going with old posters, though I notice you don't seem to like it for whatever reason.

[DarrinS]

you're ignoring the topical continuity while focusing on the grudge, underscoring my point.

Thank you, Darrin.


The grudge is yours. Own it.

[Winehole23]

The grudge is yours. Own it.keep on talking about me, it makes you look really bright!

[ChumpDumper]

:lol how is bumping an old topic to update it holding a grudge?

[Winehole23]

:lol how is bumping an old topic to update it holding a grudge?it's all about Darrin, as usual.

[hater]

Idiot :lol

It was to keep the people there from telling anyone. They had the virus and the cure.

Jesus you're too stupid to even read.

Saw that movie when I was 10 dumb old fart

:lol thinking any of this makes your bomb wuhan idea nything other than mental retardation :lmao

[Winehole23]

(thanks hater, for never letting DMC live that one down.)

[DarrinS]

it's all about Darrin, as usual.

Getting any traction in your grudge bump?

[pgardn]

This is truly awful

https://apple.news/AQ_jqpFW7RxyzJawNKZBfyA

This is headed to a scale we have not seen.

[DMC]

Saw that movie when I was 10 dumb old fart

:lol thinking any of this makes your bomb wuhan idea nything other than mental retardation :lmao

You're so desperate for a w here you'll continue to pretend you took it seriously. When the flip flop schtick stops getting hits, go with naïve incredulity.

[DMC]

(thanks hater, for never letting DMC live that one down.)


keep on talking about me, it makes you look really bright!

[Winehole23]

DMC posting about anything but the topic, as usual.

All grudges, all the time.

[boutons_deux]

This is truly awful


https://apple.news/AQ_jqpFW7RxyzJawNKZBfyA (https://apple.news/AQ_jqpFW7RxyzJawNKZBfyA)

This is headed to a scale we have not seen.

While the avaricious Capitalists, seeing $100Bs of profits ( "you want to live? enrich me, the gatekeeper to life" ), of the vaccine mfrs have mounted a huge lobbying campaign to keep their vaccines protected by patents.

PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY DISPATCHES ARMY OF LOBBYISTS TO BLOCK GENERIC COVID-19 VACCINES

New lobbying disclosures show

over 100 drug lobbyists working to defeat the IP waiver request at the WTO.

https://theintercept.com/2021/04/23/covid-vaccine-ip-waiver-lobbying/

While fucking sociopath Bill Gates says other (non white) countries too stupid to make mfr the vaccines.

And Biden has done nothing to release the vaccines to more mfrs

[hater]

You're so desperate for a w here you'll continue to pretend you took it seriously. When the flip flop schtick stops getting hits, go with naïve incredulity.

:lmao the typical "it was just a joke" white flag

:lol

[pgardn]

While the avaricious Capitalists, seeing $100Bs of profits ( "you want to live? enrich me, the gatekeeper to life" ), of the vaccine mfrs have mounted a huge lobbying campaign to keep their vaccines protected by patents.

PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY DISPATCHES ARMY OF LOBBYISTS TO BLOCK GENERIC COVID-19 VACCINES

New lobbying disclosures show

over 100 drug lobbyists working to defeat the IP waiver request at the WTO.

https://theintercept.com/2021/04/23/covid-vaccine-ip-waiver-lobbying/

While fucking sociopath Bill Gates says other (non white) countries too stupid to make mfr the vaccines.

And Biden has done nothing to release the vaccines to more mfrs

then there needs to be some sort of massive air left of the stable vaccines and so much more required in their hospitals. it needs to be a worldwide effort. I am not a logistics effort but their airports should have loads of incoming and outgoing flights with supplies.
we should have people on the ground helping with temporary hospitals and anything else they need. this is where worldwide organizations like the UN and who become so important.

There are more immediate needs to save lives of the already infected and a massive vaccine efforts. I have no idea how to get this done but it needs to be done.

[pgardn]

This is where a large invasive totalitarian government like China has an advantage.
it appears people in democracies have a really hard time working together towards one large goal. India just does not have the invasive infrastructure into what we would consider rural areas are hard to get to yet have so many people

Number of epidemiologists already saw this coming
we were perplexed why they were being spared

[Winehole23]

This is where a large invasive totalitarian government like China has an advantage.
it appears people in democracies have a really hard time working together towards one large goal. India just does not have the invasive infrastructure into what we would consider rural areas are hard to get to yet have so many people.Privatized health care fails people -- again and again -- when it counts the most.

Do you consider Taiwan, Australia and South Korea and Japan "large, invasive, totalitarian governments?" If it's not the totalitarianism, what's their advantage? Public investment and national coordination, perhaps?

[hater]

Privatized health care fails people -- again and again -- when it counts the most.

Do you consider Taiwan, Australia and South Korea and Japan "large, invasive, totalitarian governments?" If it's not the totalitarianism, what's their advantage? Public investment and national coordination, perhaps?

Last I checked Japan had like 0.5% vaccination rate. Not sure why

[Winehole23]

Last I checked Japan had like 5% vaccination rate. Not sure whyit's weird how slow this process has been, even in this country. the curve does not impress.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/covid-vaccination-regions-5.png

[hater]

On that note S Korea, Australia and NZ also super slow vaccination rates.

Seems like their vaccine approval standars are extremely high. Seems they are ok with waiting a few months


One could say these countries are anti vax :lmao

[Winehole23]

no, not really

[ChumpDumper]

On that note S Korea, Australia and NZ also super slow vaccination rates.

Seems like their vaccine approval standars are extremely high. Seems they are ok with waiting a few months


One could say these countries are anti vax :lmao

No. They don't manufacture the vaccines so they have to wait for them to become available.

[hater]

No. They don't manufacture the vaccines so they have to wait for them to become available.

Lol so 99.9% of countries should wait until vaccines "become available"

:lmao

With that strategy well be fully vaccinated by 2035 lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Lol so 99.9% of countries should wait until vaccines "become available"

:lmao

With that strategy well be fully vaccinated by 2035 lmaoThey don't have a choice, hater.

:lol this is news to you

[hater]

They don't have a choice, hater.

:lol this is news to you

:lmao what a stupid take there are literally over 100 countries ah3ad of japan in vaccination none of them manufacture their own vaccines

Yet the reason japan is so low is because they dont manufacture their own :lmao :lmao

[hater]

Israel hasnt manufactured 1 single vaccine yet they lead the pack :lol

Lol chump

[MultiTroll]

Japanese regulations say only doctors or nurses can administer the injections. The health ministry last week decided that dentists may also deliver shots.

[MultiTroll]

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R795bbb47d2df4693756e3918dd34b0a0?rik=nfO36oydzKNa CQ&riu=http%3a%2f%2f1.bp.blogspot.com%2f-80yt8RbN4Eg%2fUThbBc5OVUI%2fAAAAAAABbOg%2fReAJY1A7 FSs%2fs1600%2fmayumi-yamanaka-01343597.jpg&ehk=JIrtV7CT1mYmGT0kiEzCpioB7YmQ09YVM%2fDw6vAb8AQ% 3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao what a stupid take there are literally over 100 countries ah3ad of japan in vaccination none of them manufacture their own vaccines

Yet the reason japan is so low is because they dont manufacture their own :lmao :lmaoThey paid so they were ahead in line.

[hater]

Japanese regulations say only doctors or nurses can administer the injections. The health ministry last week decided that dentists may also deliver shots.

Lol chump

[ChumpDumper]

Israel hasnt manufactured 1 single vaccine yet they lead the pack :lol

Lol chumpThey paid so they are ahead in line.

It's impossible to distribute a vaccine when vaccine isn't actually in the country yet.

How is this so difficult for you to understand?

[hater]

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R795bbb47d2df4693756e3918dd34b0a0?rik=nfO36oydzKNa CQ&riu=http%3a%2f%2f1.bp.blogspot.com%2f-80yt8RbN4Eg%2fUThbBc5OVUI%2fAAAAAAABbOg%2fReAJY1A7 FSs%2fs1600%2fmayumi-yamanaka-01343597.jpg&ehk=JIrtV7CT1mYmGT0kiEzCpioB7YmQ09YVM%2fDw6vAb8AQ% 3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw

Arigato

[hater]

They paid so they are ahead in line.

It's impossible to distribute a vaccine when vaccine isn't actually in the country yet.

How is this so difficult for you to understand?

Why didnt japan pay?

[ChumpDumper]

Why didnt japan pay?They didn't pay enough or in time to be ahead of Israel. This is really simple stuff, hater.

Why can't you understand it?

[hater]

They didn't pay enough or in time to be ahead of Israel. This is really simple stuff, hater.

Why can't you understand it?

Why didnt they pay after israel and before any of the 100 other countries?

[DMC]

:lmao the typical "it was just a joke" white flag

:lol

3W pot committed to this, going down with the ship

[ChumpDumper]

Why didnt they pay after israel and before any of the 100 other countries?:lol Now you think I represent Japan's health ministry.

Is this where you just keep asking questions to distract from your own ignorance until you can declare victory?

[hater]

:lol Now you think I represent Japan's health ministry.

Is this where you just keep asking questions to distract from your own ignorance until you can declare victory?

:lmao no but I do think its a stupid ass fucking take to say Japan has 0.5% vaccination rate because they dont manufacture their own vaccines :lmao


When literally there are over 100 poorer countries with no local vaccine that have much higher rates :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao no but I do think its a stupid ass fucking take to say Japan has 0.5% vaccination rate because they dont manufacture their own vaccines :lmao


When literally there are over 100 poorer countries with no local vaccine that have much higher rates :lmaoVaccination could be a higher priority for those countries since Japan has had a better history with controlling infections.

This is really, really easy stuff to understand, hater. Why are you having such problems?

[MultiTroll]

Haters question is legit.
Why did Japan waiting so long?
South Korea too. Member when they were way ahead with the testing.

Why so far behind with the vaccine. I reckon maybe they wanted to wait to see how other countries people responded.

[SpursforSix]

Bend over and I will trademark your stuel sample with my umlaut!

I think you've got something here. I can see that being a thing.

"yo...you goin' out with Gina tonight?"
"yeah man, I'ma trademark dat ass"

[ChumpDumper]

Haters question is legit.
Why did Japan waiting so long?
South Korea too. Member when they were way ahead with the testing.

Why so far behind with the vaccine. I reckon maybe they wanted to wait to see how other countries people responded.

They thought they could make a vaccine domestically, then they had to work a contract with the actual manufacturers. After that it's bureaucracy and inexperience.

[MultiTroll]

They thought they could make a vaccine domestically, then they had to work a contract with the actual manufacturers.
Link?

I don't see any info about Japan trying to make it's own and failing.

[ChumpDumper]

Link?

I don't see any info about Japan trying to make it's own and failing.

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3130320/japan-battles-covid-19-mutations-slow-vaccination-rate

[hater]

Haters question is legit.
Why did Japan waiting so long?
South Korea too. Member when they were way ahead with the testing.

Why so far behind with the vaccine. I reckon maybe they wanted to wait to see how other countries people responded.

Top 4 reasons:

1. Very strict vaccine authorization laws
2. Like u said, they are not allowed to do drive thru or mass vaccination centers (cvs, etc)
3. Has high vaccine hesitant population
4. No raging inferno (uncontrolled spread)


To a much lesser degree, australia and NZ are similar

[MultiTroll]

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3130320/japan-battles-covid-19-mutations-slow-vaccination-rate
Wow, they tried to make their own and failed and also are paranoid about previous medicines that didn't work.

From that article, another link:
Tokyo Olympics must be ‘reconsidered’ due to Japan’s failure to contain pandemic, says report | South China Morning Post (scmp.com) (https://www.scmp.com/sport/other-sport/article/3129787/tokyo-olympics-must-be-reconsidered-due-japans-failure-contain)

Wonder if woke and principled Gregg Pop will consider not going for the health of all vs getting his long anticipated adulation from a Gold?

[ChumpDumper]

Wow, they tried to make their own and failed and also are paranoid about previous medicines that didn't work.

From that article, another link:
Tokyo Olympics must be ‘reconsidered’ due to Japan’s failure to contain pandemic, says report | South China Morning Post (scmp.com) (https://www.scmp.com/sport/other-sport/article/3129787/tokyo-olympics-must-be-reconsidered-due-japans-failure-contain)

Wonder if woke and principled Gregg Pop will consider not going for the health of all vs getting his long anticipated adulation from a Gold?

He's vaccinated as is the whole team. I don't see the problem for them.

[MultiTroll]

He's vaccinated as is the whole team. I don't see the problem for them.
True, but if the country as a whole is still woefully still at risk, do these commercial games really need to be held.

Great link you posted btw.

[ChumpDumper]

True, but if the country as a whole is still woefully still at risk, do these commercial games really need to be held.I don't see why not. Just make sure all the people coming in are vaccinated. Japan's going to take more of a financial hit but that's their fault at this point.