Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[boutons_deux]

Trump reportedly trying to siphon $37 million from heating assistance for the poor to fund coronavirus response


https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/trump-reportedly-trying-to-siphon-37-million-from-heating-assistance-for-the-poor-to-fund-coronavirus-response/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/trump-reportedly-trying-to-siphon-37-million-from-heating-assistance-for-the-poor-to-fund-coronavirus-response/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

[boutons_deux]

Why Iran’s coronavirus outbreak may be worse than you think


If you had to pick a region primed for an outbreak, the Middle East would be a top choice.

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/26/21153438/coronavirus-iran-outbreak-pandemic (https://www.vox.com/2020/2/26/21153438/coronavirus-iran-outbreak-pandemic)

[Winehole23]

Amazon just lost leverage on small suppliers.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-02-26/amazon-merchants-spooked-by-coronavirus-fallout-curtail-ad-spending

[RandomGuy]

Why Iran’s coronavirus outbreak may be worse than you think


If you had to pick a region primed for an outbreak, the Middle East would be a top choice.

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/26/21153438/coronavirus-iran-outbreak-pandemic (https://www.vox.com/2020/2/26/21153438/coronavirus-iran-outbreak-pandemic)

Mecca

[picnroll]

Germany said it was heading for a coronavirus epidemic and could no longer trace all cases, as the number of new infections inside China, where the outbreak originated, was for the first time overtaken by those elsewhere. Germany, which has around 20 cases, said it was already impossible to trace all chains of infection, and Health Minister Jens Spahn urged regional authorities, hospitals and employers to review their pandemic planning. “Large numbers of people have had contact with the patients, and that is a big change to the 16 patients we had until now where the chain could be traced back to the origin in China,” he said. —Reuters

[boutons_deux]

What if the virus hits Puerto Rico? :lol they would be screwed :lol

[boutons_deux]

Trump administration wrongly compares coronavirus death rates to the flu

“Trump and his senior advisers see coronavirus as a serious health threat that warrants a full response yet assess the risk of the virus in the U.S. as more comparable to the flu in terms of the fatality rate

In fact, the flu fatality rate is 0.1 percent

where the coronavirus fatality rate is between 2 and 4 percent

in the central China city of Wuhan, where the virus first surfaced,

“We expect we will see community spread in this country,”

“It is not a matter of if, but a question of when, this will exactly happen.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/trump-administration-wrongly-compares-coronavirus-death-rates-to-the-flu/

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-02-26/trump-officials-try-to-ease-concern-on-virus-risk-before-remarks

Trash and his mafiya have been lying for 3+ years, and they give no reason to believe them now.

Lying is non-stop as is the incompetence.

[picnroll]

First untraceable case has landed in Northern California. MArket continues to tank after hours and after TrUmpster’s reassurance he’s got it under control.

[hater]

First untraceable case has landed in Northern California. MArket continues to tank after hours and after TrUmpster’s reassurance he’s got it under control.

Dump said things we already knew the first weeks this came out :lol

[boutons_deux]

No Fear.

Christian Dominionist Reconstructionist misogynist End Timer Pence has everything under control, as virus czar (Russians in the loop!)

[koriwhat]

No Fear.

Christian Dominionist Reconstructionist misogynist End Timer Pence has everything under control, as virus czar (Russians in the loop!)

you ever get tired of being a total fucking batshit crazy loon? seriously? do you read the shit you post here bouts? you're a nut.

[picnroll]

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-koreanair-attendant-reportedly-served-tel-aviv-los-angeles-2020-2

[Winehole23]

First untraceable case has landed in Northern California. MArket continues to tank after hours and after TrUmpster’s reassurance he’s got it under control.Dow futures went negative during his presser, but it wasn't horrible, for Trump. At least he didn't contradict the people on stage with him.

It is a pity he mothballed the DHS office tasked with coordinating pandemic responses.

[picnroll]

Looks like they missed the boat on quarantining entry from S Korea.

[DMX7]

Our lives are now in the hands of Mike Pence.

[boutons_deux]

No Fear.

Christian Dominionist Reconstructionist misogynist End Timer Pence has everything under control, as virus czar (Russians in the loop!)

[picnroll]

Mike Pence, who enabled an HIV outbreak in Indiana, will lead US coronavirus response
Pence has a track record of ignoring public health evidence

https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/26/21155286/mike-pence-coronavirus-response-hiv

[boutons_deux]

US isn't 'remotely prepared' to test for coronavirus, experts say

The United States is lagging when it comes to testing for the new coronavirus.


the United States is lagging on that front, in part due to faulty test kits and strict regulations,

"We're not remotely prepared,"

Currently, 57 individuals in the U.S. have COVID-19,

the Trump administration has wasted precious time, which could have been used to develop and disseminate tests for the virus in all 50 states.

In early February, the CDC sent testing kits to labs across the U.S., but

a glitch in the kits (https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-testing-kits-flawed.html) made them unusable.

Now, more than a month later,

just five state health departments — in California, Illinois, Nebraska, Nevada and Tennessee — as well as the CDC,

have the ability to test for the virus, known as SARS-CoV-2.

There's so much backlog now, that getting results from the CDC can take several days,

in order to diagnose SARS-CoV-2, scientists have to obtain, verify and run the current CDC test.

Or, they can file an application for a new testing protocol and get it approved by the Food and Drug Administration.

Both processes can be difficult, especially when it comes to obtaining positive control materials — in other words,

samples of the virus itself so that scientists can compare new cases to it,

asking the CDC if Hawaii can get testing kits from Japan, :lol

The CDC requires that patients with suspected COVID-19 meet a certain criteria before being tested (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/clinical-criteria.html), including having a fever.

But people with mild cases of the virus might not have a fever

just 445 people have been tested (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html) for SARS-CoV-2 in the U.S.,

South Korea has tested more than 35,000 people for the virus

"If the criteria is only to test people who have severe illness, we're going to be missing other cases," Adalja told Live Science.

"And in order to do that we need to have much more widely distributed tests."

The U.S. dropped the ball in getting tests out quickly and making them widely available,

https://www.livescience.com/covid-19-coronovirus-test.html (https://www.livescience.com/covid-19-coronovirus-test.html)

Trash's fucked up govt, thanks, 42%

[hater]

:lmao most prepared country in the world

https://twitter.com/passantino/status/1232867400950829056?s=21

[phxspurfan]

:lmao most prepared country in the world

https://twitter.com/passantino/status/1232867400950829056?s=21

Fuuuu


Welp maybe get more snacks

[SnakeBoy]

Amazon just lost leverage on small suppliers.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-02-26/amazon-merchants-spooked-by-coronavirus-fallout-curtail-ad-spending


They could jack up prices, too.

Lol "could"

20 pack 3m sanding masks $79.97 + $396.13 shipping :lol

https://www.amazon.com/3M-8210PP20-DC-Sanding-Particulate-Respirators/dp/B002AUVWSC/ref=pd_cp_469_1/142-9066179-5377737?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B002AUVWSC&pd_rd_r=087ee671-8933-4dab-8348-0fdf29ef733d&pd_rd_w=0icTX&pd_rd_wg=Q48O7&pf_rd_p=3cdf6ad1-b882-423f-ace8-735a6daeebc4&pf_rd_r=7MVJ0BCMV64ET9QCWKKT&psc=1&refRID=7MVJ0BCMV64ET9QCWKKT

[SnakeBoy]

Nice to see some libs paying attention to this virus now that you think it might help Dems

[pgardn]

In 2000 Pence claimed smoking does not kill
Then he put in a confused qualifier:

Time for a quick reality check. Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn't kill. In fact, 2 out of every three smokers does not die from a smoking related illness and 9 out of ten smokers do not contract lung cancer. This is not to say that smoking is good for you... news flash: smoking is not good for you. If you are reading this article through the blue haze of cigarette smoke you should quit.

But in fairness to Pence, this was in 2000 before people... uhh... really...ummm.. understood the connection?
I think he probably understands that he does not understand and will let someone else run the show and shut up.
Unlike orange guy.

[baseline bum]

Lol "could"

20 pack 3m sanding masks $79.97 + $396.13 shipping :lol

https://www.amazon.com/3M-8210PP20-DC-Sanding-Particulate-Respirators/dp/B002AUVWSC/ref=pd_cp_469_1/142-9066179-5377737?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B002AUVWSC&pd_rd_r=087ee671-8933-4dab-8348-0fdf29ef733d&pd_rd_w=0icTX&pd_rd_wg=Q48O7&pf_rd_p=3cdf6ad1-b882-423f-ace8-735a6daeebc4&pf_rd_r=7MVJ0BCMV64ET9QCWKKT&psc=1&refRID=7MVJ0BCMV64ET9QCWKKT

Damn, sold out :pctoss

[SnakeBoy]

Damn, sold out :pctoss

2 pack of 20 $419.99 & FREE Shipping
Only 1 left in stock - order soon.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0852ZCWV5/ref=twister_B0852Z5GRZ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[SnakeBoy]

Damn, sold out :pctoss

Amazon "we're just a platform for sellers, not responsible for what they do"

[hater]

:lmao only the best people


https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1232338443189002241?s=20

[MultiTroll]

:lmao only the best people

smh was he Jareds butt buddy? Thus his appointment?

[baseline bum]

2 pack of 20 $419.99 & FREE Shipping
Only 1 left in stock - order soon.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0852ZCWV5/ref=twister_B0852Z5GRZ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Can't wait until March 4th to get my shit. Why have all the Prime eligible ones sold out? Damnit.

[DMC]

2 pack of 20 $419.99 & FREE Shipping
Only 1 left in stock - order soon.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0852ZCWV5/ref=twister_B0852Z5GRZ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Are you guys just finding the silliest priced offerings? I can easily find masks for a little over a buck a piece.

I have a full face respirator but you can get that same product for 21.99 at Lowes.

[baseline bum]

:lmao only the best people


Are you talking about Kennedy or Wolf there?

[phxspurfan]

Can't wait until March 4th to get my shit. Why have all the Prime eligible ones sold out? Damnit.

damn yall are late af. I have been stocked on most of this ish since last year

[ElNono]

2 pack of 20 $419.99 & FREE Shipping
Only 1 left in stock - order soon.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0852ZCWV5/ref=twister_B0852Z5GRZ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

WARNING: Limitations apply; misuse may result in sickness or death

Well, that's a relief... ;)

[boutons_deux]

in 44 countries now

China has banned eating dogs and cats

[SnakeBoy]

Are you guys just finding the silliest priced offerings? I can easily find masks for a little over a buck a piece.

I have a full face respirator but you can get that same product for 21.99 at Lowes.

I have two big boxes of those in my garage. Medical pro's will get first dibs on the real ones so I figure my wife can snag me some real ones if it comes to that. I need to hold onto the ones I got, never know when you'll need to sand something.

[SnakeBoy]

:lmao only the best people


https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1232338443189002241?s=20

It's 150 million, the number is always 150 million

[pgardn]

:lmao only the best people


https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1232338443189002241?s=20

The models are all over the place.
There are still way too many variables.

Christ...

[hater]

damn this is in japan where people are like sheeps

can u imagine if that happens here :lol shootout tbqh

https://twitter.com/Apple_JpN__/status/1232244615626948617?s=20

[Will Hunting]

Nice to see some libs paying attention to this virus now that you think it might help Dems
If Bernie gets the virus your girl Amy might have a chance :lol

[boutons_deux]

the single case in CA? They don't know how the person was infected.

worst case: an infected, symptomless "healthy" traveller returned, infected the victim, and could be infecting others.

That was seen in China where an infected symptomless person sickened 5 family members.

with the virus 44 countries, this sure looks like a pandemic

more shit:

- they think the incubation period could be longer than 14 days

- one Japanese lady was "cured" only to get sick again 2 weeks later

No problem, because science-denier End Timer Mikey Pence, who failed HIV spread in his state, is on the USA case, praying for the apocalypse.

Only Trash loyalists need apply to help, because All Trash Politics, All The Time

=========

LA Times

"the CDC confirmed it is investigating what could be the first instance of “community spread” of the virus in the U.S., after a California resident being treated at UC Davis Medical Center tested positive.

What does “community spread” mean?
Community spread, according to the CDC (https://latimes.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f089ecc9238c5ee13b8e5f471&id=e2bfcaeae8&e=c9daddbba9), refers to the “spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown.”

[hater]

Iran is looking like a bloodbath RIP Persia :(

Also virus arrived in North Korea with a bang 300+ infections overnight

[Trill Clinton]

3 former empires, China, Persia and Rome are the catalyst to this pandemic https://www.thecoli.com/media/conspiracy-oooh-tinfoil.15045/full

[picnroll]

A tour guide in Japan tested positive for the coronavirus for a 2nd time, less than a month after recovering

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-japan-tour-guide-who-recovered-tests-positive-2nd-time-2020-2

[hater]

3 former empires, China, Persia and Rome are the catalyst to this pandemic https://www.thecoli.com/media/conspiracy-oooh-tinfoil.15045/full

add Us empire tbqh

stock market is back to 2 years ago :lol

[DarrinS]

"I don't know anything about Ebola other that if you get it, you have this unbelievable urge to go to the airport". -- Bill Burr

[RandomGuy]

Dow futures went negative during his presser, but it wasn't horrible, for Trump. At least he didn't contradict the people on stage with him.

It is a pity he mothballed the DHS office tasked with coordinating pandemic responses.

He did actually.

He said the vaccine development would be "very soon" or something, and right after that the doc from the CDC said "about a year" with Dennison standing behind him staring at his shoes looking pissed that the actual scientist was telling the truth.

[RandomGuy]

.. and let me see if I get this straight...

Trump put the guy who fucked up a response to HIV in charge of responding to Covid 19?

I would laugh at that, but people are going to die, due to this administration's stupidity, corruption, and incompetence.


Over the last two years, Trump has hacked away at the funding and agencies responsible for defending Americans from viral threats. As Laurie Garrett writes in Foreign Policy, back in 2018, Trump "fired the government's entire pandemic response chain of command, including the White House management infrastructure." That same year the CDC cut its efforts to fight global diseases by 80 percent due to lack of funding. Trump's administration slashed funding for disease combat across the board, and eliminated a $30 million Complex Crisis Fund.
https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-coronavirus-response-worse-incompetent-201232125.html

Maybe he will use a sharpie to make the virus go away...

https://media.11alive.com/assets/CCT/images/cb27ac6e-786e-4427-8f12-7b23e02044e2/cb27ac6e-786e-4427-8f12-7b23e02044e2_750x422.jpg

[lefty]

Ah man made virus

[RandomGuy]

Ah man made virus

nope. conspiracy fail.

part of a known family of viruses common in bats and other species that come in contact with their waste. nature really doesn't need any help.

[boutons_deux]

Why Some COVID-19 Cases Are Worse than Others

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/why-some-covid-19-cases-are-worse-than-others-67160 (https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/why-some-covid-19-cases-are-worse-than-others-67160)

[boutons_deux]

Trump bumbles into disaster as his coronavirus response turns out to be nothing but a gust of bluster

The president spoke to the nation :lol Wednesday about the spread of the coronavirus. It didn’t go well,

He was at times barely coherent even for someone who knew what he was trying to say.

I can’t imagine what it was like for the bulk of the nation,

folks who only sometimes pay attention to politics

but might have tuned in because they want to be reassured that the government is on top of the problem.

He must have been almost completely incomprehensible to them,

rambling on about how he had recently discovered that the flu can kill lots of people :lol

and referring in a totally oblique way to the budget requests he had made to Congress and their reaction.

He occasionally said something that sort of made sense, but mostly?

Not. Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel’s reaction was what I thought:

“I found most of what he said incoherent.”
At no time over the course of the news conference did Trump supply evidence that he had any idea what he was talking about.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/trump-bumbles-into-disaster-as-his-coronavirus-response-turns-out-to-be-nothing-but-a-gust-of-bluster/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/trump-bumbles-into-disaster-as-his-coronavirus-response-turns-out-to-be-nothing-but-a-gust-of-bluster/)

[boutons_deux]

Mike Pence was criticized for his handling of Indiana’s HIV outbreak.

He will lead the U.S. coronavirus response.

The worst HIV outbreak in the state’s history happened on his watch in 2015,

which critics blamed on Pence’s belated response and his opposition to authorizing a needle-exchange program.

Two months passed from the start of the outbreak in 2015 before Pence declared a public state of emergency.

Pence didn’t agree with federal health experts that distributing clean needles was a good idea.

Pence said if state lawmakers tried to send him a bill for a needle-exchange program, he would veto it.


As cases spiked, Pence reportedly turned to prayer. :lol

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/27/mike-pence-hiv-indiana/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/27/mike-pence-hiv-indiana/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most)

[Winehole23]

They're running coronavirus messaging through the VP. Trump is treating this as a political problem for him, not as a public heath danger to us.

[DarrinS]

1233040490699902978

[rjv]

The CDC warning is taking the worst case scenario because of the "superspreader" fear. How many people become infected from these individuals will be a metric to assess how serious this novel coronavirus is in terms of spreading. My guess is that after all the hype, and full data comes in, that medical practitioners will deal with this strain of coronavirus just as is done with influenza.

[picnroll]

Trump bumbles into disaster as his coronavirus response turns out to be nothing but a gust of bluster

The president spoke to the nation :lol Wednesday about the spread of the coronavirus. It didn’t go well,

He was at times barely coherent even for someone who knew what he was trying to say.

I can’t imagine what it was like for the bulk of the nation,

folks who only sometimes pay attention to politics

but might have tuned in because they want to be reassured that the government is on top of the problem.

He must have been almost completely incomprehensible to them,

rambling on about how he had recently discovered that the flu can kill lots of people :lol

and referring in a totally oblique way to the budget requests he had made to Congress and their reaction.

He occasionally said something that sort of made sense, but mostly?

Not. Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel’s reaction was what I thought:

“I found most of what he said incoherent.”
At no time over the course of the news conference did Trump supply evidence that he had any idea what he was talking about.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/trump-bumbles-into-disaster-as-his-coronavirus-response-turns-out-to-be-nothing-but-a-gust-of-bluster/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/trump-bumbles-into-disaster-as-his-coronavirus-response-turns-out-to-be-nothing-but-a-gust-of-bluster/)
Part of Trump’s appeal to his constituency is that he doesn’t know or use any complicated words.

[Thread]

Trump bumbles into disaster as his coronavirus response turns out to be nothing but a gust of bluster

The president spoke to the nation :lol Wednesday about the spread of the coronavirus. It didn’t go well,

He was at times barely coherent even for someone who knew what he was trying to say.

I can’t imagine what it was like for the bulk of the nation,

folks who only sometimes pay attention to politics

but might have tuned in because they want to be reassured that the government is on top of the problem.

[[[[[[[[[He must have been almost completely incomprehensible to them,

rambling on about how he had recently discovered that the flu can kill lots of people :lol ]]]]]]]]]

and referring in a totally oblique way to the budget requests he had made to Congress and their reaction.

He occasionally said something that sort of made sense, but mostly?

Not. Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel’s reaction was what I thought:

“I found most of what he said incoherent.”
At no time over the course of the news conference did Trump supply evidence that he had any idea what he was talking about.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/trump-bumbles-into-disaster-as-his-coronavirus-response-turns-out-to-be-nothing-but-a-gust-of-bluster/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/trump-bumbles-into-disaster-as-his-coronavirus-response-turns-out-to-be-nothing-but-a-gust-of-bluster/)

[[[[[[[[[Over a million thru the last 2 decades.

But, we didn't give a shit about (it) during, after, or, currently.]]]]]]]]]

[boutons_deux]

They're running coronavirus messaging through the VP. Trump is treating this as a political problem for him, not as a public heath danger to us.

yep, EVERYTHING is all about, and only about Trash's self-aggrandizement, his wealth, his tiny little enfantile insecure ego.

[boutons_deux]

Part of Trump’s appeal to his constituency is that he doesn’t know or use any complicated words.

but his gradeschool vocab is simple, but his fucking brain produces gibberish, fractured, incoherent garbage of simple words

[boutons_deux]

Ministry of Truth
WH Moves To Screen Scientists’ Statements On Coronavirus

As fears grow of a politicized White House response to the coronavirus outbreak, the White House has placed Vice President in charge of messaging about the virus,

Pence, who Trump said Wednesday night would be the White House point person on the outbreak, will clear public health officials’ statements on the virus,

top economic adviser Larry Kudlow, :lol

along with the surgeon general :lol who is?

and the Treasury secretary, :lol Munchkin :lol where is Hannity, Pirro, Dobbs?

would join the White House Coronavirus Task Force.

Kudlow subsequently went on CNBC.

The economic adviser claimed three times (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/kudlow-mischaracterized-who-director-while-comforting-investors-about-coronavirus) that the director-general of the World Health Organization had urged people not to “overreact” to the virus —

something the WHO head hadn’t actually said. :lol

reports indicated (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/02/25/white-house-struggles-contain-public-alarm-over-coronavirus-despite-panic/) he was furious about the stock market’s dive. :lol

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/wh-moves-to-screen-scientists-statements-on-coronavirus?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29 (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/wh-moves-to-screen-scientists-statements-on-coronavirus?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29)

[boutons_deux]

...

[picnroll]

And in other news

California is monitoring 8,400 people for the coronavirus

[RandomGuy]

Ministry of Truth
WH Moves To Screen Scientists’ Statements On Coronavirus

As fears grow of a politicized White House response to the coronavirus outbreak, the White House has placed Vice President in charge of messaging about the virus,

Pence, who Trump said Wednesday night would be the White House point person on the outbreak, will clear public health officials’ statements on the virus,

top economic adviser Larry Kudlow, :lol

along with the surgeon general :lol who is?

and the Treasury secretary, :lol Munchkin :lol where is Hannity, Pirro, Dobbs?

would join the White House Coronavirus Task Force.

Kudlow subsequently went on CNBC.

The economic adviser claimed three times (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/kudlow-mischaracterized-who-director-while-comforting-investors-about-coronavirus) that the director-general of the World Health Organization had urged people not to “overreact” to the virus —

something the WHO head hadn’t actually said. :lol

reports indicated (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/02/25/white-house-struggles-contain-public-alarm-over-coronavirus-despite-panic/) he was furious about the stock market’s dive. :lol

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/wh-moves-to-screen-scientists-statements-on-coronavirus?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29 (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/wh-moves-to-screen-scientists-statements-on-coronavirus?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29)


Doubleplus undgood reports will be erased by the Ministry of Truth. The mini-plenty supply of vaccine will be available as soon as the war with Oceania is won.

[boutons_deux]

Disturbing Letter About Life in COVID-19 Ward in China Is Abruptly Retracted (https://gizmodo.com/disturbing-letter-about-life-in-covid-19-ward-in-china-1841952748)

“The conditions and environment here in Wuhan are more difficult and extreme than we could ever have imagined,” they wrote.

Zeng and Zhen described

a severe shortage of protective equipment in Wuhan,

citing insufficient access to face masks, face shields, goggles, gowns, and gloves.

Hands are being washed so often, they say, that nurses are developing “painful rashes,” and

respirators are worn for extended periods, resulting in pressure ulcers on foreheads and ears.

Many nurses have mouths covered in blisters, they said, and some are experiencing fainting episodes on account of hypoglycaemia (low blood glucose) and hypoxia (inadequate oxygen), according to the letter.

Owing to the length time it takes to put on protective clothing (including four layers of gloves),

Zeng and Zhen claim that nurses avoid food and drink for up to two hours before their shifts.

https://gizmodo.com/disturbing-letter-about-life-in-covid-19-ward-in-china-1841952748?utm_source=gizmodo_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-02-27 (https://gizmodo.com/disturbing-letter-about-life-in-covid-19-ward-in-china-1841952748?utm_source=gizmodo_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-02-27)

[boutons_deux]

Let’s Get Mikey!

Mike Pence victimized by Trump (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/us/politics/us-coronavirus-pence.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage) yet again:


The decision to put Mr. Pence in charge was made on Wednesday after



the president told some people that

the vice president didn’t “have anything else to do,”




https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/mike-pence-trump-covid-19?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29 (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/mike-pence-trump-covid-19?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29)

[baseline bum]

Shinzo Abe announced Japan is shutting down their schools nationwide until April.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200227_47/

[picnroll]

Suck if these were San Antonio care givers too.

U.S. workers without protective gear assisted coronavirus evacuees, HHS whistleblower says
Officials at the Department of Health and Human Services sent more than a dozen workers to receive the first Americans evacuated from Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, without proper training for infection control or appropriate protective gear, according to a whistleblower complaint.
The workers did not show symptoms of infection and were not tested for the virus, according to lawyers for the whistleblower, who is a senior HHS official based in Washington who oversees workers at the Administration for Children and Families, a unit within HHS.
The whistleblower is seeking federal protection because she alleges she was unfairly and improperly reassigned after raising concerns about the safety of these workers to HHS officials, including those within the office of Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar. She was told Feb. 19 that if she does not accept the new position in 15 days, which is March 5, she would be terminated.
The whistleblower has decades of experience in the field, received two HHS department awards from Azar last year, and has received the highest performance evaluations, her lawyers said.
The complaint was filed Wednesday with the Office of the Special Counsel, an independent federal watchdog agency. The whistleblower’s lawyers provided a copy of a redacted 24-page complaint to The Washington Post. A spokesman for the Office of the Special Counsel said he could not comment on complaints filed with the office.
The complaint alleges that HHS staff were “improperly deployed” and were “not properly trained or equipped to operate in a public health emergency situation.” The complaint also alleges that the workers were potentially exposed to coronavirus because appropriate steps were not taken to protect them, and staff were not trained in wearing personal protective equipment, even though they had face-to-face contact with returning passengers. The workers were in contact with passengers in an airplane hangar where evacuees were received and on two other occasions: when they helped distribute keys for room assignments and hand out colored ribbons for identification purposes.
“We take all whistleblower complaints very seriously and are providing the complainant all appropriate protections under the Whistleblower Protection Act. We are evaluating the complaint and have nothing further to add at this time,” HHS spokeswoman Caitlin Oakley said.
In her complaint, the whistleblower states that “appropriate steps were not taken to quarantine, monitor, or test [the workers] during their deployment and upon their return home.” The repatriated Americans were among those evacuated from Wuhan and quarantined on military bases in California and Texas because they were considered at high risk for contracting the flu-like illness.
About 14 ACF personnel were sent to March Air Force base in Riverside County, California, and another team of about 13 ACF personnel were sent to Travis Air Force in Fairfield, California, according to the complaint and the whistleblower’s lawyer, Ari Wilkenfeld. Several people within HHS voiced objection to sending the ACF personnel to receive passengers, according to a person familiar with the conversations, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private deliberations.
A second person familiar with the situation said the workers were not tested for coronavirus because none of them met the criteria for testing, which only calls for testing people who had recent travel to China or contact with a confirmed case. The workers also did not exhibit any symptoms, the person said. If they had, appropriate protocol would have been followed.
The deployments took place Jan. 28 to 31, around the time when the first planeload of evacuees arrived at March, and Feb. 2 to Feb. 7, during the time when additional flights were arriving at Travis. The planes each carried about 200 Americans who were repatriated from Wuhan.
After their deployments, the workers returned to their normal duties, some taking commercial airline flights to return to their offices around the country, the lawyers said.
“Our client was concerned that ACF staff — who were potentially exposed to the coronavirus — were allowed to leave quarantined areas and return to their communities, where they may have spread the coronavirus to others,” said Lauren Naylor, one of the whistleblower’s lawyers.
The whistleblower is also seeking assistance from the office of Rep. Jimmy Gomez, (D-Ca.), a member of the House Ways and Means committee and vice chair of the House Oversight Committee, according to a Gomez spokesman.
During a hearing Thursday, Gomez asked Azar whether any employees from the Administration for Children and Families could have been sent to help with the repatriation of Americans from Wuhan, China without any training in emergency response. Azar replied that some ACF employees were involved.
Asked what sort of health and safety training the personnel received, and whether any of them were exposed to high-risk evacuees from China, Azar said: “They never should have been without P.P.E,” referring to personal protective equipment.
Asked whether any protocols may have been broken, given the urgency on the ground, Azar replied that urgency was never a reason for breaking safety protocols.

[DarrinS]

I'm sure just total coincidence

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/national-microbiology-lab-scientist-investigation-china-1.5307424

[Thread]

I'm sure just total coincidence

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/national-microbiology-lab-scientist-investigation-china-1.5307424

...MSM will make that decision, D.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm sure just total coincidence

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/national-microbiology-lab-scientist-investigation-china-1.5307424What's your conspiracy theory, Darrin?

[Winehole23]

Instead of getting to the bottom of the problem and fixing it, Trump minions retaliate on the bringer of bad news.


The whistleblower is seeking federal protection because she alleges she was unfairly and improperly reassigned after raising concerns about the safety of these workers to HHS officials, including those within the office of Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar. She was told Feb. 19 that if she does not accept the new position in 15 days, which is March 5, she would be terminated.

[DarrinS]

I'm sure just total coincidence

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/national-microbiology-lab-scientist-investigation-china-1.5307424


Just another coincidence

China's only Level 4 microbiology lab, the National Biosafety Laboratory, is part of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

[RandomGuy]

Just another coincidence

China's only Level 4 microbiology lab, the National Biosafety Laboratory, is part of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Wow. You have gone from stupid motherfucker to full on conspiracy fucktard. Congrats, you can stand in the corner with Cosmored.

I'm sure Vice President Sleepytime McMayonnaise has it full under control. President Sharpie put him in charge.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/12/12/01/7312306-6485875-image-a-6_1544578398478.jpg

[boutons_deux]

Mike Pence, Faith Healer (works every time)https://media.newyorker.com/cartoons/5e57f7018d0504000934169d/master/w_2560%2Cc_limit/A23938.jpg


“We remind everyone that the first defense against this outbreak is vigorous handwashing and repentance.”

[DarrinS]

I'm sure Vice President Sleepytime McMayonnaise has it full under control. President Sharpie put him in charge.


Orange man bad

[koriwhat]

Just another coincidence

China's only Level 4 microbiology lab, the National Biosafety Laboratory, is part of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

if only they would had listened to metokur a month ago when he revealed just that. WUUUUUFLU!

[RandomGuy]

Orange man bad

How a Pandemic Might Play Out Under Trump (2016)
It’s not clear that the next administration is ready to deal with an outbreak of Ebola, flu, or other emerging diseases.
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/12/outbreaks-trump-disease-epidemic-ebola/511127/

The Trump administration fired the U.S. pandemic response team in 2018 to cut costs.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/

Foreseeable stupidity, you fucking conspiratard. Wait until the predictable consequences of Trumps abandoning the Kurds manifests itself. Article 5.

[RandomGuy]

A tour guide in Japan tested positive for the coronavirus for a 2nd time, less than a month after recovering

PHILIP FONG/AFP via Getty Images

A woman in her 40s living in Japan tested positive for the coronavirus for a second time on Wednesday, less than four weeks after recovering from her first infection.

The patient is a tour guide in Osaka prefecture, and first caught the disease from being on a bus with tourists from Wuhan, China, where the virus first broke out, local media said.

How she contracted the virus a second time is not yet clear.

Health experts have said that it is possible that the immune system's ability to fight coronavirus after one infection is not strong or long-lasting.

https://news.yahoo.com/tour-guide-japan-tested-positive-102242123.html

[ChumpDumper]

Just another coincidence

China's only Level 4 microbiology lab, the National Biosafety Laboratory, is part of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

What's your conspiracy theory, Darrin?

[RandomGuy]

They Were Infected With the Coronavirus. They Never Showed Signs.

In Anyang, China, five members of a family came down with the coronavirus after hosting a guest from Wuhan in early January. But the visitor, a 20-year-old woman, never got sick herself.

Some individuals who are infected with the coronavirus can spread it even though they have no symptoms, studies have shown.

Asymptomatic carriers are a well-known phenomenon. But the coronavirus is a new pathogen, and these cases may complicate scientific efforts to detect cases and to curb transmission.

“I don’t think there’s any question that someone who is without symptoms and carrying the virus can transmit the virus to somebody else,” said Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

“The question is, how prevalent is that phenomenon? Is that becoming an important driver of the outbreaks, or is it an unusual occurrence?”

When asymptomatic carriers are important factors in an outbreak, he said, “you are going to put greater emphasis and burden on testing people.”

At the moment, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention allows for testing only symptomatic people who traveled to China recently or those who have had contact with someone who tested positive for coronavirus. (Officials have said the criteria may be reevaluated.)

“We could be missing a great number of cases that don’t fit into those criteria,” said Dr. Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota.

“I suspect there are a number of additional cases in this country that are transmitting this virus, just like we’re seeing in other countries. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.”

People who are infected but asymptomatic can spread disease efficiently. They are hardy and mobile. They have no reason to avoid crowds or kissing. They don’t know they are sick, and no one else does.

These individuals are also hard to detect, suggesting that the current policies to try to contain the spread of the virus may not be adequate. Simply screening international travelers with symptoms of illness — and explicitly precluding tests of patients without a known link to China — may mean new cases are missed.

In February, Germany flew 126 people home from the Wuhan area. Ten passengers were segregated from the others because they didn’t feel well or thought they had been exposed to the coronavirus. But everyone was offered testing.

The 10 isolated patients tested negative, but two people — who felt fine — surprised scientists by testing positive. They were hospitalized, monitored and tested repeatedly.

While one developed a mild rash and slightly sore throat, neither became ill.

There have been 59 confirmed coronavirus cases so far in the United States, but little testing has occurred for a country of this size. The CDC has run only 445 tests, not counting tests on people who were repatriated.

Most of the confirmed cases are passengers repatriated from the Diamond Princess cruise ship. The CDC reported Wednesday that two more passengers under quarantine have become ill.

Federal health officials warned Tuesday that hospitals, schools and businesses needed to start preparing for outbreaks in the United States. Containment strategies may have to expand to include steps like closing schools, ordering people to work from home and restricting public gatherings.

The secretary of health and human services, Alex M. Azar II, said he was alarmed by the infections occurring in some parts of the world that have no clear link to confirmed cases.

Until now, the vast majority of infections and deaths have been in China, where the coronavirus originated in Wuhan before spreading to about 40 other nations.

So far, at least 81,109 people have been infected, and at least 2,718 have died.

But other countries may not have confirmed cases because they haven’t tested very many people or don’t have the resources to run tests.

Some public health experts fear stealth transmissions may already be occurring in communities in the United States. But if sick individuals have no direct link to China, they will not be eligible for testing, so they will not be detected. That may help spread the disease.

“To our knowledge there is no sustained transmission in this country at this point unless it is under the radar,” Fauci said.

In Italy, health officials in some regions have taken a different approach.

After 10 deaths attributed to the new coronavirus, health officials started aggressive and widespread testing in some regions. They turned up hundreds of other infections, including many in people who did not display any symptoms.

Quarantines have been imposed on at least 10 towns, and the movement of tens of thousands of people has been limited. There have been no deaths attributed to the coronavirus in the United States.

Earlier reports about asymptomatic transmission — including a published report about a Chinese woman who visited Germany for a few days in January, infecting several colleagues there and not realizing she was ill until she returned home — have been criticized.

A follow-up report said the woman had vague symptoms, like fatigue, though not the kind of symptoms typically associated with the coronavirus.

If it is true that asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic people can transmit the disease frequently and efficiently, testing may need to be broadened, experts said.

“This implies we may need many more tests that can be used out in the field, at the point of care,” said Dr. Judith N. Wasserheit, co-director of the University of Washington MetaCenter for Pandemic Preparedness and Global Health Security. “We’re still learning about the biology of this virus and how it causes disease.”

Dr. Sandra Ciesek, of the Institute of Medical Virology at University Hospital Frankfurt, who was one of the authors of a letter in The New England Journal of Medicine that described the German patients who did not become ill, said the problem was that “normally, you don’t screen asymptomatic healthy people for the virus because it’s too expensive.”

“This shows we might have more infected people already all over the world than we expect,” she said.

This article originally appeared in The New York Times.

Asymptomatic + Long incubation period = long infectious period unknown to carrier.

I would say the odds of containing this, if confirmed, is close to nil. CDC was right to say "when" not "if".

Vice President Sleepytime McMayonniase is going to have his hands full.

[SnakeBoy]

Why Some COVID-19 Cases Are Worse than Others

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/why-some-covid-19-cases-are-worse-than-others-67160 (https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/why-some-covid-19-cases-are-worse-than-others-67160)

I've already posted plenty of info regarding the cytokine storm that is causing the deaths from this virus weeks ago

but welcome to the party :lol

[pgardn]

A tour guide in Japan tested positive for the coronavirus for a 2nd time, less than a month after recovering

PHILIP FONG/AFP via Getty Images

A woman in her 40s living in Japan tested positive for the coronavirus for a second time on Wednesday, less than four weeks after recovering from her first infection.

The patient is a tour guide in Osaka prefecture, and first caught the disease from being on a bus with tourists from Wuhan, China, where the virus first broke out, local media said.

How she contracted the virus a second time is not yet clear.

Health experts have said that it is possible that the immune system's ability to fight coronavirus after one infection is not strong or long-lasting.

https://news.yahoo.com/tour-guide-japan-tested-positive-102242123.html

The tests could also be bad but I would expect more false negatives than positives if the PCR test was done on her.
I wonder what kind of test they did. They must be pretty sure to print this and it seems to indicate she actually had symptoms twice.

This is still very new so I would expect some mistakes in testing.

[TheGreatYacht]

HIV-Like "Mutation" In Coronavirus Discovered As Israel Suddenly Announces Vaccine

https://youtu.be/uuPiJoYxMN0

[pgardn]

HIV-Like "Mutation" In Coronavirus Discovered As Israel Suddenly Announces Vaccine

https://youtu.be/uuPiJoYxMN0

And....

The Earth is flat.
You knew it was coming.

[phxspurfan]

Asymptomatic + Long incubation period = long infectious period unknown to carrier.

I would say the odds of containing this, if confirmed, is close to nil. CDC was right to say "when" not "if".

Vice President Sleepytime McMayonniase is going to have his hands full.


The real conspiracy theory is Trump knew this was going to get worse and needed a scapegoat. Someone he wanted to discredit. Someone from within he heard may have been disloyal. :stirpot:

[phxspurfan]

The tests could also be bad but I would expect more false negatives than positives if the PCR test was done on her.
I wonder what kind of test they did. They must be pretty sure to print this and it seems to indicate she actually had symptoms twice.

This is still very new so I would expect some mistakes in testing.

Or there are multiple strains. People get colds, recover and get them again

[phxspurfan]

I've already posted plenty of info regarding the cytokine storm that is causing the deaths from this virus weeks ago

but welcome to the party :lol

So should get get Nicorette and start chain smoking or not bruh

[RandomGuy]

another youtube that no one, and I mean no one, here will ever watch

https://media.giphy.com/media/xUPGczpRwC8BxhNwEE/giphy.gif

[SnakeBoy]

So should get get Nicorette and start chain smoking or not bruh

Nicoderm for 24hr release, nicorette makes me wanna puke tbh and I'll already be sick. Nobody would feel like smoking/vaping with a respiratory virus.
Food/Snacks
Toilet Paper
Chloroquine - 10 days 500mg/day ~$20/tablet (fucking pharma companies)
Fuck the masks they're useless.

I'm ready. Bring that shit on :smokin

[SnakeBoy]

Or there are multiple strains. People get colds, recover and get them again

Only one strain of Covid-19 so once you've had it your done.

Tests are still unreliable. China has a 100 manufacturers making them so poor quality control. CDC's test was messed up, some problem with the chemicals used.

They've just identified a specific pattern visible in chest CT's that differentiate Covid-19 from other respiratory pneumonia's, even early in the infection. More accurate than the tests...


Chest CT, a routine imaging tool for pneumonia diagnosis, is fast and relatively easy to perform. Recent research found that the sensitivity of CT for COVID-19 infection was 98% compared to RT-PCR sensitivity of 71%.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/rsna-ct-provides-best-diagnosis-210500472.html

[phxspurfan]

Nicoderm for 24hr release, nicorette makes me wanna puke tbh and I'll already be sick. Nobody would feel like smoking/vaping with a respiratory virus.
Food/Snacks
Toilet Paper
Chloroquine - 10 days 500mg/day ~$20/tablet (fucking pharma companies)
Fuck the masks they're useless.

I'm ready. Bring that shit on :smokin


My friend just bought like 8 bottles of Purell hand sanitizer :lol like he’s gonna drink that shit

[SnakeBoy]

My friend just bought like 8 bottles of Purell hand sanitizer :lol like he’s gonna drink that shit

:lol I heard a chick on a show today say she went to stock up on hand sanitizer & get a thermometer in NY and they were sold out. I thought hand sanitizer wtf?

[SnakeBoy]

Dude on ebay has been selling chloroquine powder for fish treatment. He's keeps selling out
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Chloroquine-Phosphate-Treats-marine-ich-velvet-brook-AQUARIUM-USE-ONLY/254458306205?hash=item3b3ee59e9d:m:mi7PuGoNVdf_TOf O9flUMag

Broke preppers are gonna fuck themselves up eating that powder.

[SnakeBoy]

Don't worry folks, CDC is on top of this :lmao

https://c.o0bc.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/facial-hair-w-mask-2-1024x745$large.jpg

[pgardn]

The CDC is fine.
They know how difficult this is.
Especially with hysteria

Trumps HTH or whatever they call it, not so much.
as long as orange man stays away from the important people that actually knows stuff, we know the difficulty

[picnroll]

The Trump administration barred a top US disease expert from speaking freely to the public after he warned the coronavirus might be impossible to contain.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-anthony-fauci-trump-admin-stops-discussion-2020-2

How in the world can anyone support this buffoon?

[boutons_deux]

The real conspiracy theory is Trump knew this was going to get worse and needed a scapegoat. Someone he wanted to discredit. Someone from within he heard may have been disloyal. :stirpot:

I immediately suspected Trash was throwing Pence into a situation where Pence would fail, then Trash, who has never shown Pence much or any respect (he was given to Trash to get the vote of the evangelical hate mob), would drop Pence for another running mate.

Trash will blame the covid-19 disaster on Pence.

It's a trap, a setup to failure

[pgardn]

Or there are multiple strains. People get colds, recover and get them again

May make a vaccine more difficult.
Probably won’t have time to test, make and mass distribute anyways

[pgardn]

I immediately suspected Trash was throwing Pence into a situation where Pence would fail, then Trash, who has never shown Pence much or any respect (he was given to Trash to get the vote of the evangelical hate mob), would drop Pence for another running mate.

Trash will blame the covid-19 disaster on Pence.

It's a trap, a setup to failure




l posted on this

He puts this guy in the worst situations
Trump would not want a new vp now would he?

[hater]

The Trump administration barred a top US disease expert from speaking freely to the public after he warned the coronavirus might be impossible to contain.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-anthony-fauci-trump-admin-stops-discussion-2020-2

How in the world can anyone support this buffoon?

they are responding in same way Iranian govemt did. with any luck the same thing as Iran will happen here and the VP and ministers will catch the virus

[DarrinS]

The Trump administration barred a top US disease expert from speaking freely to the public after he warned the coronavirus might be impossible to contain.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-anthony-fauci-trump-admin-stops-discussion-2020-2

How in the world can anyone support this buffoon?


"An NIAID spokesperson told Business Insider the claim in the Times report is "not true."

[DarrinS]

:lol

1233280814747512832

[Winehole23]

Orange man bad
What's so great about him. DarrinS?

[pgardn]

:lol

1233280814747512832

Russia was not a hoax. Russia interfered in our elections. So you don’t believe this?

[DarrinS]

Russia was not a hoax. Russia interfered in our elections. So you don’t believe this?

Collusion was a hoax

[boutons_deux]

l posted on this

He puts this guy in the worst situations
Trump would not want a new vp now would he?

Trash now knows he can murder a Repug Senator and

still get all Repug Senators minus one to vote for him.

So Trash knows replacing NoWhere Man Pence wouldn't cost him the evangelical hate vote that Pence was supposed to provide. 42% would remain religiously addicted to Trash's hate and inhumanity.

[ChumpDumper]

What's so great about him. DarrinS?His 401k says Trump is great....oh wait...

[picnroll]

WHO raises coronavirus threat assessment, now says virus poses a ‘very high’ risk at a global level
PUBLISHED FRI, FEB 28 202010:28 AM ESTUPDATED MOMENTS AGO
Berkeley Lovelace Jr.
@BERKELEYJR
William Feuer
@WILLFOIA
GP: Coronavirus Italy tourists 200228
Tourists wearing a protective respiratory mask tour outside the Colosseo monument (Colisee, Coliseum) in downtown Rome on February 28, 2020 amid fear of Covid-19 epidemic.
Andreas Solaro | CFP | Getty Images
World Health Organization officials said Friday they are increasing the risk assessment of the coronavirus, which has spread to at least 49 countries in a matter of weeks, to “very high” across the world.

“We have now increased our assessment of the risk of spread and the risk of impact of COVID-19 to very high at global level,” Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director-general of WHO, said during a press briefing at the agency’s headquarters in Geneva.


Outside of China, there are 4,351 cases across 48 countries, including 67 deaths as of Friday morning Tedros said. He said health officials are seeing “linked epidemics of COVID-19 in several countries, but most cases can still be traced to known contacts or clusters of cases.”

“We do not see evidence as yet that the virus is spreading freely in communities,” he added.

Denmark, Estonia, Lithuania, Netherlands and Nigeria all reported their first cases on Thursday, Tedros said. All these cases have links to Italy, he added.

Tedros reiterated that the virus could turn into a pandemic. He urged against fear and panic, adding, “our greatest enemy right now is not the virus itself. It’s fear, rumors and stigma.”

Wonder if WHO got Trump and Pence’s permission to release this statement? :rollin

[pgardn]

Collusion was a hoax

I think so too, but it does not change the fact Russia interfered mostly for Trump and that Mueller found this out and punished appropriate people for lying about it and for participating in it

and that was Mueller’s job.

Trump did a great job with his paranoia to help people believe in collusion

then he made the call which was utterly and completely wrong, but turned political

[boutons_deux]

Key Missteps at the CDC Have Set Back Its Ability to Detect the Potential Spread of Coronavirus

The CDC designed a flawed test for COVID-19, then took weeks to figure out a fix so state and local labs could use it. New York still doesn’t trust the test’s accuracy.

the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention lost valuable weeks that could have been used to track its possible spread in the United States because it insisted upon devising its own test.

The federal agency shunned the World Health Organization test guidelines used by other countries and set out to create a more complicated test of its own that could identify a range of similar viruses.

But when it was sent to labs across the country in the first week of February, it didn’t work as expected.

The CDC test correctly identified COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus.

But in all but a handful of state labs,

it falsely flagged the presence of the other viruses in harmless samples.

the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration only allowed those state labs to use the test —

a decision with potentially significant consequences.

The lack of a reliable test prevented local officials from taking a crucial first step in coping with a possible outbreak —

“surveillance testing”

of hundreds of people in possible hotspots.

Epidemiologists in other countries have used this sort of testing

to track the spread of the disease before large numbers of people turn up at hospitals.

https://www.propublica.org/article/cdc-coronavirus-covid-19-test?utm_source=pardot&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=majorinvestigations

[boutons_deux]

C.D.C. DIRECTOR SAYS CORONAVIRUS EFFORT COULD BE HELPED BY QUARANTINING PENCE

WASHINGTON —The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Friday that

significant progress in battling the coronavirus could be achieved by quarantining Mike Pence.

Speaking to lawmakers on Capitol Hill, the C.D.C. director said that,

given Pence’s record as a science denier who mishandled an aids outbreak while he was the governor of Indiana,

an immediate quarantine of the Vice-President was “an essential first step.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/cdc-director-says-coronavirus-effort-could-be-helped-by-quarantining-pence (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/cdc-director-says-coronavirus-effort-could-be-helped-by-quarantining-pence)

[Spurminator]

:lol

1233280814747512832

Nothing in that tweet suggests Brian Stelter is praying for catastrophe.

But speaking of pandemics, good to know your TDS has gotten so bad that you're now posting James Woods commentary. :lmao.

[CosmicCowboy]

Looks like the Pope got the bug.

[Spurminator]

1233428848517275648

[RandomGuy]

Collusion was a hoax

When you campaign manager is slipping internal polling data to an intelligence operative in the middle of that intelligence agency's disinformation effort... that is collusion. Want to try claiming the earth isn't getting warmer for an encore? or have you given up on that conspiracy theory too, Cosmored?

[RandomGuy]

WHO raises coronavirus threat assessment, now says virus poses a ‘very high’ risk at a global level
PUBLISHED FRI, FEB 28 202010:28 AM ESTUPDATED MOMENTS AGO
Berkeley Lovelace Jr.
@BERKELEYJR
William Feuer
@WILLFOIA
GP: Coronavirus Italy tourists 200228
Tourists wearing a protective respiratory mask tour outside the Colosseo monument (Colisee, Coliseum) in downtown Rome on February 28, 2020 amid fear of Covid-19 epidemic.
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World Health Organization officials said Friday they are increasing the risk assessment of the coronavirus, which has spread to at least 49 countries in a matter of weeks, to “very high” across the world.

“We have now increased our assessment of the risk of spread and the risk of impact of COVID-19 to very high at global level,” Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director-general of WHO, said during a press briefing at the agency’s headquarters in Geneva.


Outside of China, there are 4,351 cases across 48 countries, including 67 deaths as of Friday morning Tedros said. He said health officials are seeing “linked epidemics of COVID-19 in several countries, but most cases can still be traced to known contacts or clusters of cases.”

“We do not see evidence as yet that the virus is spreading freely in communities,” he added.

Denmark, Estonia, Lithuania, Netherlands and Nigeria all reported their first cases on Thursday, Tedros said. All these cases have links to Italy, he added.

Tedros reiterated that the virus could turn into a pandemic. He urged against fear and panic, adding, “our greatest enemy right now is not the virus itself. It’s fear, rumors and stigma.”

Wonder if WHO got Trump and Pence’s permission to release this statement? :rollin

WATCH As Mike Pence Shows Why He's A Terrible Choice For Coronavirus Czar
More than a few noticed Pence wiping his nose with his hand before shaking hands with others at the press conference.

https://crooksandliars.com/2020/02/watch-mike-pence-shows-why-hes-terrible

[DarrinS]

Welp

https://apnews.com/a7d2aaac19fc3022ba686ba91e7d4395

[picnroll]

Welp

https://apnews.com/a7d2aaac19fc3022ba686ba91e7d4395

Don’t worry. Trumps’ wall will keep the virus out.

[spurraider21]

Collusion was a hoax
there was never a formal allegation of collusion by law enforcement. they investigated it and no charges were pressed (some charges were pressed because people were lying to investigators, but none for actual collusion/conspiracy, as you know)

they have since investigated the investigation and found that the investigation was properly opened with sufficient evidence. they did, however, find some significant wrongdoing during the investigation process (fisa warrants, etc), but could not link any of that to a political bias or the FBI being "out to get trump"

every time there is an investigation that doesnt lead to charges, do you call those hoaxes too? was the hillary email thing a hoax because they investigated and didnt press charges?

[RandomGuy]

Welp

https://apnews.com/a7d2aaac19fc3022ba686ba91e7d4395

Just wait until it gets to the US in a big way, and it will.

People living paycheck to paycheck, with no paid days off, go to work even when they are sick, infecting others.

People with no access to healthcare or health insurance beyond the ER, will make that problem worse.

Find a magic free market solution for that. Your god will not help you now, and the problem is built into the abominable system we have built, and you think is so great we shouldn't change it.

[Spurminator]

Trump's lackeys in the Senate keep blocking any election security efforts despite known efforts to interfere with our elections in Trump's favor, but at least he's not directly colluding lol russiagaters anyway here's a james woods tweet

[RandomGuy]

there was never a formal allegation of collusion by law enforcement. they investigated it and no charges were pressed (some charges were pressed because people were lying to investigators, but none for actual collusion/conspiracy, as you know)

they have since investigated the investigation and found that the investigation was properly opened with sufficient evidence. they did, however, find some significant wrongdoing during the investigation process (fisa warrants, etc), but could not link any of that to a political bias or the FBI being "out to get trump"

every time there is an investigation that doesnt lead to charges, do you call those hoaxes too? was the hillary email thing a hoax because they investigated and didnt press charges?

Well, remember Mueller wasn't looking for "collusion", he was looking for criminal conspiracy as defined in the law. "Collusion" such as providing foreign intelligence agents data that helps their attacks on our system, isn't technically illegal.

My go-arounds with TSA got real interesting when he agreed to the regular definition of collusion, which includes "legal, but secret meetings", which is what Manafort's contacts with Kilimniks were. He deflected hard after that.

[hater]

1233428848517275648

most prepared country in the world :lol

botched the first step which is to get a test kit ready :lol

what a shithole country

[spurraider21]

Well, remember Mueller wasn't looking for "collusion", he was looking for criminal conspiracy as defined in the law. "Collusion" such as providing foreign intelligence agents data that helps their attacks on our system, isn't technically illegal.

My go-arounds with TSA got real interesting when he agreed to the regular definition of collusion, which includes "legal, but secret meetings", which is what Manafort's contacts with Kilimniks were. He deflected hard after that.
collusion was the colloquial term. the rosenstein memo naming mueller special counsel said he was looking for links and/or coordination between the russian government and individuals associated with the trump campaign. actual criminal charges would have been "conspiracy to.."

[TSA]

When you campaign manager is slipping internal polling data to an intelligence operative in the middle of that intelligence agency's disinformation effort... that is collusion. Want to try claiming the earth isn't getting warmer for an encore? or have you given up on that conspiracy theory too, Cosmored?


The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts. The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign].

When are you going to give up the Trump/Russia collusion conspiracy theory, djohn?

[RandomGuy]

collusion was the colloquial term. the rosenstein memo naming mueller special counsel said he was looking for links and/or coordination between the russian government and individuals associated with the trump campaign. actual criminal charges would have been "conspiracy to.."

I would say that a campaign manager giving data to a known intelligence asset qualifies. But then, I actually read the report.

Didn't appear to be much beyond that, but that in and of itself should be enough, IMO, to reach the conclusion that "yes, collusion happened"

[TSA]

I would say that a campaign manager giving data to a known intelligence asset qualifies. But then, I actually read the report.

Didn't appear to be much beyond that, but that in and of itself should be enough, IMO, to reach the conclusion that "yes, collusion happened"


The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts. The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign].

[RandomGuy]

When are you going to give up the Trump/Russia collusion conspiracy theory, djohn?
The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts. The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign].
[




aw. you want to keep deflecting. I get it. Maybe for an encore you will tell me how a few hundred votes in a special election in Kenucky is somehow a meaningful trend. :lol

Tell me, did Mueller indicate that he thought he got all the evidence he could about this? Or did he note some limitations on what he could get?

You left those qualifiers out, because you want to lie through cherry-picking.


A statement that the investigation did not establish particular facts does not mean there was no evidence of those facts.

...
Further, the Office learned that some of the individuals we interviewed or whose conduct we investigated — including some associated with the Trump Campaign — deleted relevant communications or communicated during the relevant period using applications that feature encryption or that do not provide for long-term retention of data or communications records. In such cases, the Office was not able to corroborate witness statements through comparison to contemporaneous communications or fully question witnesses about statements that appeared inconsistent with other known facts.

Accordingly, while this report embodies factual and legal determinations that the Office believes to be accurate and complete to the greatest extent possible, given these identified gaps, the Office cannot rule out the possibility that the unavailable information would shed additional light on (or cast in a new light) the events described in the report.

[boutons_deux]

Why have Trash and his mafiya, for 3 years, been lying, "forgetting", hiding, obstructing their connections to Russians from any and all investigations?

Why did Trash hire some many people with deep histories with Russia?


Will Trump Be Meeting With His Counterpart — Or His Handler?

A plausible theory of mind-boggling collusion.


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/07/trump-putin-russia-collusion.html (https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/07/trump-putin-russia-collusion.html)

[TSA]

aw. you want to keep deflecting. I get it. Maybe for an encore you will tell me how a few hundred votes in a special election in Kenucky is somehow a meaningful trend. :lol

Tell me, did Mueller indicate that he thought he got all the evidence he could about this? Or did he note some limitations on what he could get?

You left those qualifiers out, because you want to lie through cherry-picking.

:cry incompetent Mueller the liar :cry

1. "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

2. "The investigation examined whether [contacts between Russia and Trump figures] involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination."

3. "The investigation did not establish that [Carter] Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election."

4. "The Office did not identify evidence in those [contacts between Russians and people around Trump after the GOP convention] of coordination between the Campaign and the Russian government."

5. "The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."

6. "The investigation did not establish that these [contacts between Russians and people around Trump during the transition] reflected or constituted coordination between the Trump Campaign and Russia in its election interference activities."

7. "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign]."

[RandomGuy]

[cherry-picks]


[points out TSA cherrypicking]


[cherry picks some more]


Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position. It is a kind of fallacy of selective attention, the most common example of which is the confirmation bias.[1][2] Cherry picking may be committed intentionally or unintentionally. This fallacy is a major problem in public debate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking

[boutons_deux]

Anti-Vaxxers Are Terrified the Government Will ‘Enforce’ a Vaccine for Coronavirus

Anti-vax groups on social media are claiming that

the spread of the disease will lead to

mandatory vaccinations and

'unlimited surveillance.'

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/m7q5vv/anti-vaxxers-are-terrified-the-government-will-enforce-a-vaccine-for-coronavirus?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=curated_vice_daily_1023202 (https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/m7q5vv/anti-vaxxers-are-terrified-the-government-will-enforce-a-vaccine-for-coronavirus?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=curated_vice_daily_1023202)

[boutons_deux]

As USA is bullied into an authoritarian theocracy, a authoritarian theocracy shows its competence

HOW IRAN BECAME A NEW EPICENTER OF THE CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK

Harirchi dismissed as hype an Iranian lawmaker’s claim that

fifty people had already died from covid-19.

“I will resign if the numbers are even half or a quarter of this,”

Iran opposed quarantines,

he said, because they belonged to an era before the First World War—

“to the plague, cholera, stuff like that.”

The next day, Harirchi confirmed in a video—from quarantine—that he had contracted coronavirus. :lol

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/how-iran-became-a-new-epicenter-of-the-coronavirus-outbreak?source=EDT_NYR_EDIT_NEWSLETTER_0_imagenew sletter_Daily_ZZ&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_022820&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&esrc=&mbid=&utm_term=TNY_Daily

It Is Written.

Allah Wills It

[Winehole23]

1233428848517275648Mulvaney laying down the narrative at CPAC: coverage of the pandemic is an attempt by the biased media to hurt the stock market and take down DJT.

1233396432838840321

[hater]

^ doing his best Iranian leader impression I see :lol

hope he gets the virus over the weekend like those Iranian leaders did

[boutons_deux]

Trump hadn't slept for at least 'a day and a half' before his coronavirus press conference (https://theweek.com/speedreads/899055/trump-hadnt-slept-least-day-half-before-coronavirus-press-conference-mick-mulvaney-says)

Mulvaney while speaking at Friday's Conservative Political Action Conference declared that

the president basically "never sleeps,"

having apparently barely done so before addressing the nation about the coronavirus crisis earlier this week.

Although Mulvaney chalked up Trump's wacky sleep schedule to

his desire to get the most out of his time in office, :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

https://theweek.com/speedreads/899055/trump-hadnt-slept-least-day-half-before-coronavirus-press-conference-mick-mulvaney-says (https://theweek.com/speedreads/899055/trump-hadnt-slept-least-day-half-before-coronavirus-press-conference-mick-mulvaney-says)

[Winehole23]

You know what would make Americans safer?

How about an emergency tax cut?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/02/28/trump-coronavirus-tax-cuts/

[SnakeBoy]

1233428848517275648

This is not true. CDC developed test and open sourced it. A number of other countries developed tests. They all have accuracy problems. CDC first batch shipped was bad because of a bad batch of chemicals, that's what caused the delay.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/technical-guidance/laboratory-guidance

but Trump

[koriwhat]

This is not true. CDC developed test and open sourced it. A number of other countries developed tests. They all have accuracy problems. CDC first batch shipped was bad because of a bad batch of chemicals, that's what caused the delay.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/technical-guidance/laboratory-guidance

but Trump

everything is trump's fault in the eyes of the loser dems.

on a side note, they're all spineless pathetic losers who never take accountability for their own downfalls and would rather claim orange man bad time and time again.

[Nathan89]

Anti-Vaxxers Are Terrified the Government Will ‘Enforce’ a Vaccine for Coronavirus

Anti-vax groups on social media are claiming that

the spread of the disease will lead to

mandatory vaccinations and

'unlimited surveillance.'

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/m7q5vv/anti-vaxxers-are-terrified-the-government-will-enforce-a-vaccine-for-coronavirus?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=curated_vice_daily_1023202 (https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/m7q5vv/anti-vaxxers-are-terrified-the-government-will-enforce-a-vaccine-for-coronavirus?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=curated_vice_daily_1023202)




Thought you were a "my body my choice" type tbh

[Nathan89]

FYI Dems have been pushing the lie that Trump cut the CDC budget and that's why we can't handle this. That's a lie.

There is a lot of narratives about Trump failing with this virus but every country is failing because nobody can handle this virus. This will continue to spread all over the world.

[TSA]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking


Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position. It is a kind of fallacy of selective attention, the most common example of which is the confirmation bias.[1][2] Cherry picking may be committed intentionally or unintentionally. This fallacy is a major problem in public debate

Go point by point and list all of the significant portions of related data that contradicts the below positions.

1. "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

2. "The investigation examined whether [contacts between Russia and Trump figures] involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination."

3. "The investigation did not establish that [Carter] Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election."

4. "The Office did not identify evidence in those [contacts between Russians and people around Trump after the GOP convention] of coordination between the Campaign and the Russian government."

5. "The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."

6. "The investigation did not establish that these [contacts between Russians and people around Trump during the transition] reflected or constituted coordination between the Trump Campaign and Russia in its election interference activities."

7. "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign]."

[RandomGuy]

[cherry-picks]


[points out TSA cherrypicking]


[cherry picks some more]


[points out TSA cherrypicking]


[repeats cherry picking, demands debate based on only considering cherry picked data]

:sleep

[RandomGuy]

FYI Dems have been pushing the lie that Trump cut the CDC budget and that's why we can't handle this. That's a lie.

There is a lot of narratives about Trump failing with this virus but every country is failing because nobody can handle this virus. This will continue to spread all over the world.

Ain't no one saying "we can't handle this because of budget cuts. That is itself a lie. Not that I expect you to be able to tell the difference in truth and lies these days.

They are pointing out that Trump cut the budget for the agency responsible for preparing for and dealing with these things.

[koriwhat]

hopefully all of china and iran fall to their knees in a cold sweat. fuck both those countries equally!

[DarrinS]

Ain't no one saying "we can't handle this because of budget cuts. That is itself a lie. Not that I expect you to be able to tell the difference in truth and lies these days.

They are pointing out that Trump cut the budget for the agency responsible for preparing for and dealing with these things.

https://apnews.com/d36d6c4de29f4d04beda3db00cb46104

[baseline bum]

Trump hadn't slept for at least 'a day and a half' before his coronavirus press conference (https://theweek.com/speedreads/899055/trump-hadnt-slept-least-day-half-before-coronavirus-press-conference-mick-mulvaney-says)

Mulvaney while speaking at Friday's Conservative Political Action Conference declared that

the president basically "never sleeps,"

having apparently barely done so before addressing the nation about the coronavirus crisis earlier this week.

Although Mulvaney chalked up Trump's wacky sleep schedule to

his desire to get the most out of his time in office, :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol https://theweek.com/speedreads/899055/trump-hadnt-slept-least-day-half-before-coronavirus-press-conference-mick-mulvaney-says (https://theweek.com/speedreads/899055/trump-hadnt-slept-least-day-half-before-coronavirus-press-conference-mick-mulvaney-says)



He also never shits, right?

[RandomGuy]

Ain't no one saying "we can't handle this because of budget cuts. That is itself a lie. Not that I expect you to be able to tell the difference in truth and lies these days.

They are pointing out that Trump cut the budget for the agency responsible for preparing for and dealing with these things.


https://apnews.com/d36d6c4de29f4d04beda3db00cb46104

Dang. You got me there. I did not know they were saying that. Already voted in the primary, so I tuned out of it a couple of weeks ago. It has been blissful.

They are wrong, and the fact check is correct. It is a distortion.

[boutons_deux]

You know what would make Americans safer?

How about an emergency tax cut?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/02/28/trump-coronavirus-tax-cuts/

Repug / oligarchy tax cuts are like alcohol: drink to commiserate, drink to celebrate

No matter how good or bad it is, T A X C U T S !!!

[pgardn]

FYI Dems have been pushing the lie that Trump cut the CDC budget and that's why we can't handle this. That's a lie.

There is a lot of narratives about Trump failing with this virus but every country is failing because nobody can handle this virus. This will continue to spread all over the world.

Trump DID propose cuts to the CDC and NIH.
The cuts did not take place.
Would these cuts have affected our response? I dunno...

So are you thanking Congress Nathan?

Trump did not create this mess but he is the last person I trust to handle it wisely. It would be rough on any president however.

So Step away and shut up. Let Mike comment now.

[boutons_deux]

Tenth coronavirus case confirmed in California


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-usa-california/tenth-coronavirus-case-confirmed-in-california-county-health-officials-idUSKCN20M3CB?feedType=RSS&feedName=healthNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FhealthNews+%28Reute rs+Health+News%29 (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-usa-california/tenth-coronavirus-case-confirmed-in-california-county-health-officials-idUSKCN20M3CB?feedType=RSS&feedName=healthNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FhealthNews+%28Reute rs+Health+News%29)

[picnroll]

Live updates: Oregon coronavirus infection becomes third case of unknown origin in U.S.

[boutons_deux]

While Trash's messagings is that the covid-19 is hoax by the Dems, the Real Govt ACTIONS expose Trash's LIES

America calls off major meeting of world leaders in Las Vegas as Trump continues to downplay coronavirus risks

as the commander-in-chief was referring to the epidemic as a “hoax,”

his own administration was reportedly cancelling a major global meeting.

“The Trump administration has called off a major summit of Asian leaders next month in Las Vegas amid growing alarm over the coronavirus,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/america-calls-off-major-meeting-of-world-leaders-in-las-vegas-as-trump-continues-to-downplay-coronavirus-risks/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/america-calls-off-major-meeting-of-world-leaders-in-las-vegas-as-trump-continues-to-downplay-coronavirus-risks/)

Also, the hoax is alive and well in Italy. The State Dept has warned Americans about travelling to Hoax-aly

===============

US govt TRAVEL ADVISORY

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/italy-travel-advisory.html

[CosmicCowboy]

Surprised you guys aren't celebrating the coronavirus. It pretty much just kills baby boomers and older. Smoking is another high risk factor. The china numbers may not be transferable to the US since 50% of the Chinese still smoke.

[hater]

Surprised you guys aren't celebrating the coronavirus. It pretty much just kills baby boomers and older. Smoking is another high risk factor. The china numbers may not be transferable to the US since 50% of the Chinese still smoke.

2% kill rate is nothing to gloat about tbqh

the pressure on health, security services and economy is what will affect everyone.

the possibility of overfilled hospitals and lack of drugs will affect all ages

[hater]

just read accounts of one young and one old person and are very similar. Start with coughing, loss of energy and then start with fever which requires most to go to hospital for drugs. IV, HIV drugs is needed by most. (at least based on the accounts read) after a few days 98% should recover.

But imagine thousands upon thousands of ppl needing all this care. China is commendable what they are doing tbqh. They promised free healthcare to anyone infected. USA not so much

China also just sent teams of doctors to Iran to help them out. USA and Pompeo poured salt on Iran's wounds by joking and saying sanctions will remain.

China leading while others monkeying around

[CosmicCowboy]

2% kill rate is nothing to gloat about tbqh

the pressure on health, security services and economy is what will affect everyone.

the possibility of overfilled hospitals and lack of drugs will affect all ages

The china death rate outside Hubei province (where wuhan is) is only .4%.

[hater]

The china death rate outside Hubei province (where wuhan is) is only .4%.

within china maybe. they are doing a great job

the death rate in Iran and Italy are higher than 2% tbqh

[baseline bum]

Surprised you guys aren't celebrating the coronavirus. It pretty much just kills baby boomers and older. Smoking is another high risk factor. The china numbers may not be transferable to the US since 50% of the Chinese still smoke.

I thought it didn't really discriminate on age. For instance, it just killed a 22 year-old Iranian poorball player.

[pgardn]

within china maybe. they are doing a great job

the death rate in Iran and Italy are higher than 2% tbqh

You don’t know what the death rate is and neither do the people you got this from.
These could just be people that got so ill they came in. Again, many people will probably get this and stay home and never see a medical facility and be fine. But we could all panic and rush to where all the really sick people are. Then everyone could wait around with each other.

You are getting a selected sample that is not true of the whole. There are ways of modeling this and getting better numbers but you would have to use China. They are not reliable. The main reason this is more interesting (Panic for some) than the flu is because it’s not the flu, more like MERS AND SARS.

This board has mutated from financial experts into top notch epidemiologists.

We would like to have so much more information.

The news taken second by second and analyzed, just like FOX and CNN.

[boutons_deux]

"You don’t know what the death rate"

so you think China is lying about the number of dead/infected?

let's say 2 or 3% mortality is way too high

let's crank it down to 1%.

That's still MANY TIMES the mortality rate for seasonal flu, which kills about 90K every year in USA

[DarrinS]

Of 705 passengers infected on that cruise ship, 6 died.

And a lot of them were older people.

1% is about right

[boutons_deux]

from an latimes email, the Dem/media hoax is spreading

"California recorded a new case of the coronavirus Friday in Santa Clara County

in a patient who had no known exposure through travel or close contactwith an infected person,

raising concerns that it could be spreading in communities."

[Winehole23]

The china death rate outside Hubei province (where wuhan is) is only .4%.If true, that's 4X deadlier than the flu.

[Winehole23]

Of 705 passengers infected on that cruise ship, 6 died.

And a lot of them were older people.

1% is about rightCC and DarrinS are now epidemiologists in their own right, and who would have guessed, they agree that COVID-19 isn't such a big deal.

[picnroll]

Seems like the key was/is containment. A high percentage, up to 20%, have required intensive medical care. Hubnei’s health system was rapidly and severely overwhelmed, many not even admitted to the hospital before they died. Where China was able to better contain the outbreak outside of Hubnei and facilities weren’t overwhelmed mortality is reported as lower. If outbreak and penetrant is not widespread in the US and the health system isn’t overwhelmed it should be manageable with apparently some increased mortality relative to the average flu. If widespread and the system can’t handle it not so good.

An anti-viral drug like Remdesvir if effective in mitigating at least somewhat the disease would be a great help.

[boutons_deux]

I thought it didn't really discriminate on age. For instance, it just killed a 22 year-old Iranian poorball player.

They live in information zone that Trash floods with shit. They swallow every turd without question.

[Winehole23]

Just in time inventory management and global supply chains bake in systemic fragility:

1233790889383866370

[picnroll]

France’s health minister has said that gatherings of more than 5,000 people, in a confined space, will be banned. This comes as the country’s number of confirmed cases rose to 73 on Saturday.

5,000 people? That should help immensely.

[Winehole23]

S Korea: Free shit

USA: Thoughts and prayers

1233400273013338112

[boutons_deux]

France’s health minister has said that gatherings of more than 5,000 people, in a confined space, will be banned. This comes as the country’s number of confirmed cases rose to 73 on Saturday.

5,000 people? That should help immensely.

yep, weird. :lol

[hater]

S Korea: Free shit

USA: Thoughts and prayers

1233400273013338112

in the usa it will probably cost about 3,000 for a test and will be charged to patient if no insurance

[CosmicCowboy]

CC and DarrinS are now epidemiologists in their own right, and who would have guessed, they agree that COVID-19 isn't such a big deal.

The numbers are easily available for those with the intellectual curiosity to look for them which clearly leaves you out. All you want to do is throw shade.

[boutons_deux]

California coronavirus patient was not tested for several days;

some hospital staffers told to stay home

the patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19. But the patient was not tested until Sunday.

“Upon admission, our team asked public health officials if this case could be COVID-19 (https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-01-30/who-says-china-coronavirus-outbreak-is-public-health-emergency).

We requested COVID-19 testing by the [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention],

since neither Sacramento County nor the California Department of Public Health is doing testing for coronavirus at this time.

Since the patient did not fit the existing CDC criteria for COVID-19,

a test was not immediately administered.

UC Davis Health does not control the testing process,”

“the CDC ordered COVID-19 testing of the patient, and

the patient was put on airborne precautions and strict contact precautions,

because of our concerns about the patient’s condition.”

The positive test results came back Wednesday,

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-02-27/california-coronavirus-patient-was-not-tested-for-several-days-uc-davis-says?utm_source=Essential+California&utm_campaign=b905ce0a36-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_02_29_02_58&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6e35f7f85b-b905ce0a36-80115881 (https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-02-27/california-coronavirus-patient-was-not-tested-for-several-days-uc-davis-says?utm_source=Essential+California&utm_campaign=b905ce0a36-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_02_29_02_58&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6e35f7f85b-b905ce0a36-80115881)

So how many others did this covid-19 sickie infect before going for health care?

[Winehole23]

The numbers are easily available for those with the intellectual curiosity to look for them which clearly leaves you out. All you want to do is throw shade.If you have them in your pocket, why not share with everybody?

Your record of prognostication in these pages is terrible. If you don't post your sources there's no reason to think it isn't more yet more CC PFA analysis.

[DarrinS]

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/485144-coronavirus-fatality-rates-vary-dramatically

[Winehole23]

in the usa it will probably cost about 3,000 for a test and will be charged to patient if no insuranceDon't worry, we can now start catching up to to rest of the world:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/fda-to-allow-labs-to-begin-use-of-high-complexity-tests-for-coronavirus-11582992472

[Winehole23]

The numbers are easily available for those with the intellectual curiosity to look for them which clearly leaves you out. All you want to do is throw shade.
All you're doing is spinning stats to advance a narrative to downplay risk.

[DarrinS]

All you're doing is spinning stats to advance a narrative to downplay risk.

Have a Snickers, geez

[Winehole23]

Have a Snickers, geezSo are you. S Korea just declared a two week school holiday over this hoax, as y'all like to call it now.

[picnroll]

It’s going to take a lot longer to make a COVID-19 vaccine than a treatment.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/28/21156385/covid-coronavirus-vaccine-treatment-moderna-remdesivir-research

https://www.pmlive.com/pharma_news/us_begins_trial_of_gileads_coronavirus_hopeful_rem desivir_1327010

[CosmicCowboy]

So are you. S Korea just declared a two week school holiday over this hoax, as y'all like to call it now.

I'm not calling it a hoax. I expect it to become a routine infection just like the regular flu that moves from the southern hemisphere to northern hemisphere during the conventional flu season. Could be a rough two or three years until we develop a general herd immunity. There really is a lot of information out there if you had the curiosity to look for it.

[DarrinS]

So are you. S Korea just declared a two week school holiday over this hoax, as y'all like to call it now.


No one said it was a hoax.

[Winehole23]

Rare Satutday briefing at 1:30.

Trump should have pledged his full support to public health experts and gotten the hell out of the way. Instead he chooses to make the pandemic and public announcements about the pandemic, all about him.

smdh

[Winehole23]

No one said it was a hoax.

Mulvaney did at CPAC. Trump did at his rally.

Lawyerly parsing coming in 3, 2, 1...

[hater]

Rare Satutday briefing at 1:30.

Trump should have pledged his full support to public health experts and gotten the hell out of the way. Instead he chooses to make the pandemic and public announcements about the pandemic, all about him.

smdh

first american death just happened

https://twitter.com/npr/status/1233813638496083968?s=21

[hater]

trump getting his shit pushed in (he called it a hoax yesterday)


hes fastly becoming an embarrasment

[Winehole23]

Trump needs to be less worried what the pandemic will do to him and more concerned about the danger it presents to the rest of us.

Same goes for kneejerk minimizers like CC and DarrinS.

[hater]

USA coronavirus death rate instantly became 1.5%

tbqh

darrin, CC. come and spin this sheet

[boutons_deux]

Trump Claims Coronavirus Is

‘A New Hoax’

By Democrats

Trump accused Democrats of “politicizing” the disease by criticizing (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pelosi-schumer-criticize-trump-response-coronavirus) his shoddy handling of the outbreak.

“One of my people came up to me :lol and said,

‘Mr. President,

they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.

That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it.

They tried the impeachment hoax,'” he told the crowd, saying that “it’s all turning.”

Then Trump declared: “And this is their new hoax.”

He added that he and his administration “did something that’s been pretty amazing” in response to the 15 cases of the virus in the U.S.

“We have 15 people in this massive country, and because of the fact that we went early, we went early, we could’ve had a lot more than that,”

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-accuse-democrats-coronavirus-new-hoax (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-accuse-democrats-coronavirus-new-hoax)

Dems' impeachment/Russia hoax = Dems' covid-19 hoax

For the 42% (ST are members), that's God's Own Biblical Truth.

[DarrinS]

trump getting his shit pushed in (he called it a hoax yesterday)


This isn't true

[CosmicCowboy]

Trump needs to be less worried what the pandemic will do to him and more concerned about the danger it presents to the rest of us.

Same goes for kneejerk minimizers like CC and DarrinS.
Who is minimizing it? There probably isn't any containing it, but in three to four years it will pretty much run its course. Yes people will die and that sucks but this isn't the armageddon bug.

[Winehole23]

I'm not calling it a hoax. I expect it to become a routine infection just like the regular flu that moves from the southern hemisphere to northern hemisphere during the conventional flu season. Could be a rough two or three years until we develop a general herd immunity. There really is a lot of information out there if you had the curiosity to look for it.You say I lack curiosity, but you haven't posted a single source for any of your figures and leapings to conclusions. You seem to think we already know enough about COVID-19 to come to conclusions about where this is headed. You also seem blithely dismissive of knock on effects from quarantine/control efforts.

Face it, CC. The information that's already out there doesn't teach us a damn thing about what we don't know.

[picnroll]

first american death just happened

https://twitter.com/npr/status/1233813638496083968?s=21
The death was reported in Washington state. Yesterday Washington reported a case without known exposure and it was in a high school student.

[Winehole23]

Who is minimizing it? There probably isn't any containing it, but in three to four years it will pretty much run its course. Yes people will die and that sucks but this isn't the armageddon bug.It doesn't have to be the armageddon bug for people to die because DJT deprioritized pandemic preparedness and is treating the outbreak as a PR problem.

[DarrinS]

https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/opinion/article/I-have-the-coronavirus-So-far-it-isn-t-that-bad-15093664.php

[Winehole23]

https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/opinion/article/I-have-the-coronavirus-So-far-it-isn-t-that-bad-15093664.phpThe plural of anecdote isn't data. If the prevalence of serious symptoms is as bad as anticipated, hospitals could be taxed beyond capacity. The lack of containment protocols has already caused health care workers to self-quarantine, can't imagine that just stops happening as the pandemic becomes endemic.

[hater]

https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/opinion/article/I-have-the-coronavirus-So-far-it-isn-t-that-bad-15093664.php

what do you say about USA 1.5% death rate my niga?

[hater]

Surprised you guys aren't celebrating the coronavirus. It pretty much just kills baby boomers and older. Smoking is another high risk factor. The china numbers may not be transferable to the US since 50% of the Chinese still smoke.

a 19 year old american was our first death

thoughts?

[CosmicCowboy]

The plural of anecdote isn't data. If the prevalence of serious symptoms is as bad as anticipated, hospitals could be taxed beyond capacity. The lack of containment protocols has already caused health care workers to self-quarantine, can't imagine that just stops happening as the pandemic becomes endemic.

So, president winehole...what do you propose? In home quarantine for the whole country? Cancel super tuesday?

[picnroll]

a 19 year old american was our first death

thoughts?
I don’t know if that’s who died but that’s the only one I’ve heard of suspected with Coronavirus reported in Washington.

[Winehole23]

So, president winehole...what do you propose? In home quarantine for the whole country? Cancel super tuesday?I'd like to hand the mic over to Antonio Fauci and our CDC team to speak to that...

[CosmicCowboy]

I'd like to hand the mic over to Antonio Fauci and our CDC team to speak to that...

I'm sure all the guys at the CDC went on vacation. Lol

[Winehole23]

For one, CC, we can restore pandemic preparedness and the offices for international coordination that Trump has gutted, so that we don't get caught with out pants down next time.

[Winehole23]

I'm sure all the guys at the CDC went on vacation. LolTrump muzzled them

All coronavirus statements have to be run through the VP's office.

Does that strike you as appropriate?

[CosmicCowboy]

If people really get spooked it could hurt bernies chances on Super Tuesday if people are scared to wait in line at the polls. Most early voters are older and more conservative.

[picnroll]

There was a Kings county woman in her 50s infarcted. That must be the person who died.

[CosmicCowboy]

Trump muzzled them

All coronavirus statements have to be run through the VP's office.

Does that strike you as appropriate?

Did you support Obama appointing czars for the various crisis where they coordinated the media releases? As I remember he appointed 38 czars.

[hater]

There was a Kings county woman in her 50s infarcted. That must be the person who died.

yeah my bad not a 19 year old

[Spurs Homer]

Pence : “thanks to the leadership....because of the actions of the president...due to the ....”

(with his off hand - he was fondling tr7mps balls as he made his fuhrer speech)


fucking sycophant fellator

[hater]

ok I don't know actually Trump might have been wrong as usual :lmao

https://twitter.com/stormspottersue/status/1233833123164704768?s=20

[hater]

:lmao he doesn't even know who died :lol

[Winehole23]

Did you support Obama appointing czars for the various crisis where they coordinated the media releases? As I remember he appointed 38 czars.Tu quoque, voting present, I see.

What example of Obama doing it got your goat?

[Winehole23]

If people really get spooked it could hurt bernies chances on Super Tuesday if people are scared to wait in line at the polls. Most early voters are older and more conservative.
Cc now relishing the thought of public hysteria suppressing voting.

[CosmicCowboy]

Tu quoque, voting present, I see.

What example of Obama doing it got your goat?

None, really. Just pointing out your hypocrisy.

[CosmicCowboy]

Just pointing out the obvious. Who will want to go to any public gathering as the pandemic fear spreads?

[Will Hunting]

Just pointing out the obvious. Who will want to go to any public gathering as the pandemic fear spreads?
I could see it working both ways.

The fervent Sanders supporters aren’t going to be as easily deterred from voting as the “oh lawdy!” Black lady who weighs 320 pounds and has a weak immune from system from her processed sugar diet.

[Spurs Homer]

Trump honest administration claiming “all is well”




FUCK

its over folks


nice knowing you - USA!

[CosmicCowboy]

For one, CC, we can restore pandemic preparedness and the offices for international coordination that Trump has gutted, so that we don't get caught with out pants down next time.

Be specific. What program has he gutted? I'm not talking about future hypothetical budgets. We are talking today.

[Trill Clinton]

a 19 year old american was our first death

thoughts?

Fake news. Trump says the virus is a hoax created by the Democrats.

[ChumpDumper]

Did you support Obama appointing czars for the various crisis where they coordinated the media releases? As I remember he appointed 38 czars.Czar Pence doesn't have a great public health record.

[boutons_deux]

A Coronavirus Vaccine Should Be Free, Not 'Affordable'

Azar’s initial refusal to promise that an eventual vaccine for the virus wouldn’t be out of reach financially for the public,

arguing they couldn’t “control that price because we need the private sector to invest.”

the administration walked back (https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-vaccine-affordable-says-trump-administration-2020-2) Azar’s comment, stating that of course a future vaccine would be affordable. :lol

To protect those who can’t have a vaccine, such as the very young or immunocompromised, we need massive buy-in from the population at large.

keep in mind that almost half the country has less than $400 (https://money.cnn.com/2017/01/12/pf/americans-lack-of-savings/index.html) available for an emergency

Azar’s original justification about first

needing to protect the financial interests of vaccine makers

points to a systemic rot within the industry itself.

the industry doesn’t want to fund research into new treatments that won’t make them as much money as the next cholesterol-lowering drug.

the demand for large profit margins is helping sink public health efforts (https://gizmodo.com/theres-a-cure-for-hepatitis-c-but-insurance-companies-1826638799).

people are already being fed to the U.S. health care system because of it.

Several people being monitored or suspected of having the virus have alleged that their care has racked up thousands in medical bills (https://twitter.com/RobertMackey/status/1233459999852171265).

the familiar question of whether profits or people matter more will be asked again. :lol Capitalism answers: PROFITS! :lol

https://gizmodo.com/a-coronavirus-vaccine-should-be-free-not-affordable-1841976751?utm_source=gizmodo_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-02-29 (https://gizmodo.com/a-coronavirus-vaccine-should-be-free-not-affordable-1841976751?utm_source=gizmodo_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-02-29)

[ElNono]

Surprised you guys aren't celebrating the coronavirus. It pretty much just kills baby boomers and older. Smoking is another high risk factor. The china numbers may not be transferable to the US since 50% of the Chinese still smoke.

Nothing to celebrate until it hits the South

[Winehole23]

None, really. Just pointing out your hypocrisy. What's the hypocrisy? I don't/didn't defend Obama. Does lack of transparency/using public health officials for Presidential PR suddenly become ok because your political rival did it in the past?

Btw, you cited no particular examples. Were there any analogous to DJT's handling of this?

[boutons_deux]

Nothing to celebrate until it hits the South

shitkickers brought a fucking RABID cow to the SA rodeo :lol

[Winehole23]

Be specific. What program has he gutted? I'm not talking about future hypothetical budgets. We are talking today.

The information is out there for anyone actually curious about it...

Gimme a sec, it won't be hard to find.

[pgardn]

"You don’t know what the death rate"

so you think China is lying about the number of dead/infected?

let's say 2 or 3% mortality is way too high

let's crank it down to 1%.

That's still MANY TIMES the mortality rate for seasonal flu, which kills about 90K every year in USA




So you are telling me China has accurately counted all the people infected?
Those who DO NOT come in to be tested.

[CosmicCowboy]

What's the hypocrisy? I don't/didn't defend Obama. Does lack of transparency/using public health officials for Presidential PR suddenly become ok because your political rival did it in the past?

Btw, you cited no particular examples. Were there any analogous to DJT's handling of this?

Ron Klain, the Ebola czar?

[Winehole23]

Ron Klain, the Ebola czar?What problem did you have with how he handle it? Do you not have a problem with Pence coordinating Presidential ass kissing forr public consumption?

[Winehole23]

The information is out there for anyone actually curious about it...

Gimme a sec, it won't be hard to find.

In 2018, Trump fired Tom Bossert, whose job as homeland security adviser on the NSC included coordinating the response to global pandemics. Bossert was not replaced. Last year, Rear Adm. Tim Ziemer, the NSC's senior director for global health security and biodefense, left the council and was not replaced. Dr. Luciana Borio, the NSC's director for medical and biodefense preparedness, left in May 2018 and was also not replaced.


https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/trump-cuts-national-security-staff-may-hurt-coronavirus-response-say-n1143656

[boutons_deux]

So you are telling me China has accurately counted all the people infected?
Those who DO NOT come in to be tested.

no, that's yet another of your legendary fucked up takes of my posts

[ChumpDumper]

Ron Klain, the Ebola czar?True, Klain had no experience in public health. Pence has bad experience in public health.

[Winehole23]

Glad CC brought up Obama's Ebola group. That led to a system of international coordination that Trump has declined to fund. There were dozens of offices worldwide, the number now is eight.

Trump deemphasized public health and pandemic preparedness. That's part of the problem we face today. Trump should promise to fix what he broke.

[picnroll]

Why in the world would anyone defend Trump’s appointments as anything but ass sucking ignoramuses and incompetents?

[Will Hunting]

I’m still in disbelief that Ebola horseshit ever became a story.

[pgardn]

no, that's yet another of your legendary fucked up takes of my posts

Then don’t be spouting out mortality rates as facts dumbass.

Is there not one outlet that will tell us what we do and don’t know and why we should be critical of this sort of phenomena in its infancy? Analysis of what is probably estimated too high and too low and what it means at present and what the present data is and is not good for.

I guess the guys who can spell out the above fear for their jobs or being wrong about certain tidbits.
As a primer read popular science article on epidemiology.
Just came out yesterday I believe.

[pgardn]

I’m still in disbelief that Ebola horseshit ever became a story.

It involved lots of disgusting symptoms so it was exciting.

[boutons_deux]

Then don’t be spouting out mortality rates as facts dumbass.


dumbass, I didn't spout facts,

but a hypothetical where the Chinese could be UNDERSTATING the mortality rates by 2x or 3x

goddam, you takes fucking suck

[pgardn]

Why in the world would anyone defend Trump’s appointments as anything but ass sucking ignoramuses and incompetents?

As long as he does not purge the grinders (people that know this shit and are not in positions for their political skills) in the CDC, we are still floating.

[pgardn]

dumbass, I didn't spout facts,

but a hypothetical where the Chinese could be UNDERSTATING the mortality rates by 2x or 3x

goddam, you takes fucking suck

Cold they be overstating it? What are the probabilities of each? It could LOOK really bad, the understate that, but the virus has infected many many more people you fckn moron. We don’t know.

[picnroll]

As long as he does not purge the grinders (people that know this shit and are not in positions for their political skills) in the CDC, we are still floating.

If they try to talk about or enact anything with actual science behind it he usually gets rid of them though.

[boutons_deux]

Lying, corrupt, sicko Trash and his dick-sucking mafiya of liars are repeating VERY OLD history

THE CORONAVIRUS AND HOW POLITICAL SPIN HAS WORSENED EPIDEMICS

During the past two years, it cut the federal ranks of experts involved with infectious-disease emergencies.

In February of 2018, the C.D.C. announced plans to stop epidemic-prevention work (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/02/01/cdc-to-cut-by-80-percent-efforts-to-prevent-global-disease-outbreak/?noredirect=on) in thirty-nine out of forty-nine countries that it was monitoring and supporting, leaving ten “priority countries.”

China was not one of them.

In May, 2018, John Bolton (https://www.newyorker.com/tag/john-bolton), then the national-security adviser,

disbanded the global-health-security team at the National Security Council.

Top officials left (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/05/10/top-white-house-official-in-charge-of-pandemic-response-exits-abruptly/), and the posts were never refilled.


https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-coronavirus-and-how-political-spin-has-worsened-epidemics?source=EDT_NYR_EDIT_NEWSLETTER_0_imagene wsletter_Daily_ZZ&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_022920&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=4
3758549&esrc=&mbid=&utm_term=TNY_Daily (https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-coronavirus-and-how-political-spin-has-worsened-epidemics?source=EDT_NYR_EDIT_NEWSLETTER_0_imagene wsletter_Daily_ZZ&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_022920&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&esrc=&mbid=&utm_term=TNY_Daily)

[Trill Clinton]

From Reddit:
https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/img/renderTimingPixel.png



COVID-19 (https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/search?q=flair_name%3A%22COVID-19%22&restrict_sr=1)

Hello,

Just giving a heads up to what I and my doctor both considered a very fucked situation. I just spent a week in Japan, a country at high risk for COVID-19. I wore a mask and essentially tried to stay away from most touristy places (not my first time there), but trains and stations are still packed with people, so there's really not much you can do.

On arriving back to America (3 days ago), I developed a 102F fever, coughing, and aches. I went to a local hospital in Brooklyn's ER. I informed them of my travel, they provided me a mask, and redirected me to a private room and followed infection protocols (full face covers, gloves, aprons, etc.). I had a chest x-ray and testing for flu/cold/pneumonia/and about 25 other viruses. They all came back negative.

At this point, the hospital called the CDC requesting permission to perform the COVID-19 testing. The CDC denied the request on the ground that I did not have the most life-threatening symptoms: chest pain and shortness of breath. According to everything I read it's very likely not to have these symptoms if you're in your 30's and relatively healthy.

And... that was that. They discharged me, said I don't have Corona virus, since they didn't test me for it, and said I can ride the subway, return to work, do whatever I want.

Of course my doctor disagreed. She said I should treat myself as if I am infected. My partner is currently staying in a nearby hotel since we live in a studio apartment. I am choosing to perform a self-quarantine for 14 days. Fortunately I can work from home and my partner can deliver me groceries if I run out.
But I don't think that many people are aware of the fact that they're actively not testing people for COVID-19, even people who have travel history to high-risk places.

Edit: To answer some standard questions.
Do I still have symptoms?
Yes, Fever is current 101.6 (as of a couple hours ago), aches, and a cough that is persistent. I'm taking Tylenol and drinking a lot of water.
Is this real?
It's as real as I said it is. I returned from Japan. I'm sick. The symptoms are similar to COVID19 and I was refused testing. You can believe whatever you want, I don't care.
You have the flu?
Well, not according to my screens I don't.
Edit 2: I've taken some media inquiries already.
Edit 3: https://abc7ny.com/5974999/
Edit 4: Answering some additional questions:
Didn't the CDC just change their guidance?
Yes, the CDC added Japan to the list of high-risk countries on Feb 27 (evening). I went to the hospital on Feb 27 (morning). I performed a virtual follow-up visit with an ER doctor Feb 28 at 7:00pm to go over my case with the updated guidance from CDC. According to that ER nurse since the hospital still can't hospitalize me based on my criteria, they can't test me. So effectively, there is no change.
Were you supposed to go to the ER?
I called up the ER before I went. Told them about my travel, symptoms, and suspicion. I asked the receptionist what the protocol was and they said just come to the ER. Similarly, I asked them how I should get home, and they said I was fine to take any transportation I would normally take.
Go to the media!
I have already been contacted by over 15 media organizations, so I can't respond to them all. If I have the strength and energy I wanted to do a couple local/national organizations. However, I'm only talking to organizations who can guarantee that they'll protect my privacy and take it seriously. I need to disclose a lot of personal information (hospital records/occupation/residence etc.) for them to verify and run my story. Also doing Skype interviews while chain coughing into a headset in my dirty room isn't my best weekend activity.

[CosmicCowboy]

I will certainly concede there are ZERO chances we react as effectively as the chinese to limit the pandemic in the US. The president and congress would have to declare martial law. Fat chance of that.

[hater]

new youtube challenge. the coronavirus challenge

beat it with no meds....


calling it now... call me nostradamus when it happens

[boutons_deux]

I will certainly concede there are ZERO chances we react as effectively as the chinese to limit the pandemic in the US. The president and congress would have to declare martial law. Fat chance of that.

USA reacting exactly like China with, so far, propaganda and suppression of facts.

no need for martial law, except in your fevered imagination.

[boutons_deux]

From Reddit:

COVID-19 (https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/search?q=flair_name%3A%22COVID-19%22&restrict_sr=1)

Hello,



an anecdote, useful only in exposing that ER/health care/docs are not prepared to test for covid-19,

and therefore, helpless to do their jobs, send sick people back into the population.

Are Trash/Pence/Azar rushing reliable covid-19 tests all over the country?

[DarrinS]

Trump muzzled them

All coronavirus statements have to be run through the VP's office.

Does that strike you as appropriate?


1233840500131737603

[boutons_deux]

Trash wants to close the MX border (to please his hate-driven racist 42%)

but

Not the CA border where there are more covid-18 cases.

[boutons_deux]

Health officials:

Dozens at Kirkland nursing facility reporting symptoms that might suggest coronavirus

There are also two confirmed cases associated with the nursing facility.

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