Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[ChumpDumper]

The Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency said that there were 5,352 new cases of COVID and 70 deaths over the past 24 hours, each a record high for the country in the nearly two-year-long outbreak.

South Korea’s COVID death toll now stands at 3,809, while new daily cases topped 5,000 three times this week.

The troubling numbers come despite a high vaccination rate and widespread compliance with mask policies among South Koreans.

First world problems I guess... would kill for the US to have those record highs, tbh...Snakeboy falling for det media spin again.

[DarrinS]

The Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency said that there were 5,352 new cases of COVID and 70 deaths over the past 24 hours, each a record high for the country in the nearly two-year-long outbreak.

South Korea’s COVID death toll now stands at 3,809, while new daily cases topped 5,000 three times this week.

The troubling numbers come despite a high vaccination rate and widespread compliance with mask policies among South Koreans.

First world problems I guess... would kill for the US to have those record highs, tbh...


Countries with low average BMI have low death rates. Just a coincidence

[Winehole23]

IT'S TEH FATTIES, GUISE

[DarrinS]

I cite a great variety of sources, far more than most posters here, tbh.

Lol

[SnakeBoy]

You already folded three times in that conversation.

Do you want to fold again?

You crying that your friends won't listen to you is a win in your mind :lol

Still mad at me about it :lol

Why won't your friends listen to you?

Be specific

[DarrinS]

IT'S TEH FATTIES, GUISE


^ not fat Lance triggered

[Winehole23]

Lolwho cites more?

[ChumpDumper]

You crying that your friends won't listen to you is a win in your mind :lol

Still mad at me about it :lol

Why won't your friends listen to you?

Be specificSorry, you claim I lied to them.

What do you say I lied about?

It's your claim. Back it up or fold again.

[SnakeBoy]

The Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency said that there were 5,352 new cases of COVID and 70 deaths over the past 24 hours, each a record high for the country in the nearly two-year-long outbreak.

South Korea’s COVID death toll now stands at 3,809, while new daily cases topped 5,000 three times this week.

The troubling numbers come despite a high vaccination rate and widespread compliance with mask policies among South Koreans.

First world problems I guess... would kill for the US to have those record highs, tbh...

All Biden had to do is a hard lockdown and impose strict border control. Do you wish he had done that?

[ElNono]

Countries with low average BMI have low death rates. Just a coincidence

Well, SK has half the population of Japan, and 1/5 of the COVID deaths. What's the next excuse?

[Winehole23]

Well, SK has half the population of Japan, and 1/5 of the COVID deaths. What's the next excuse?Island/peninsula would be my guess. Not that that works any better.

[ElNono]

All Biden had to do is a hard lockdown and impose strict border control. Do you wish he had done that?

This largely predates Brandon, tbh... SK largely did things right from the get go, including contact tracing, among other things.

Meanwhile, here in third world country, we had people laughing at South Korea for the long lines to get masks back in the day...

[ElNono]

Island/peninsula would be my guess. Not that that works any better.

I know where the goalpost is getting moved next... "well, you couldn't do this in the US because X and Y"... just a matter of time.

[Winehole23]

I know where the goalpost is getting moved next... "well, you couldn't do this in the US because X and Y"... just a matter of time.dozens of iterations of that in this thread already, tbh

[SnakeBoy]

Sorry, you claim I lied to them.

What do you say I lied about?

It's your claim. Back it up or fold again.

Dodges the question again :lol

[DarrinS]

Well, SK has half the population of Japan, and 1/5 of the COVID deaths. What's the next excuse?

Elderly population.

Age and obesity are the two highest risk factors.

[Winehole23]

"We couldn't do that, so let's not even try."

[DarrinS]

Elderly population.

Age and obesity are the two highest risk factors.

Probably why Italy got clobbered early on.

[ChumpDumper]

Dodges the question again :loli'll answer it as soon as you answer the question you've been dodging for days.

You claimed I lied to this person.

What lies did I tell this person?

Be specific in backing up your claim about this private conversation you know so much about.

[Winehole23]

Probably why Italy got clobbered early on.Intergenerational households, too. Plus a culture of close talking.

[DarrinS]

"We couldn't do that, so let's not even try."

The final stage of grief is acceptance.

Get on your bike, fatty.

:lmao

[Winehole23]

The final stage of grief is acceptance.

Get on your bike, fatty.

:lmao
Damn near every day, tbh. :bobo

[ElNono]

Elderly population.

Age and obesity are the two highest risk factors.

That applies evenly to the entire world, not just Japan or South Korea. It doesn't explain why South Korea has so much fewer fatalities that a lot of other first world countries.

[Winehole23]

Didn't work so great for people who lost loved ones.Public health didn't work for those who died, very true.

There was never going to be a country with zero deaths from SARS-CoV-2. Are you saying that public health policy makes no difference, because people died?

*Scratches head*

[DarrinS]

That applies evenly to the entire world, not just Japan or South Korea. It doesn't explain why South Korea has so much fewer fatalities that a lot of other first world countries.


What explains why Taiwan is doing so much better than South Korea?

Full disclosure: Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan are all doing remarkably well

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Darrin demands answers after folding.

Full derp.

[DarrinS]

What explains why Taiwan is doing so much better than South Korea?

Full disclosure: Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan are all doing remarkably well


One of them hosted the Olympics

[Winehole23]

Contact tracing, rapid, widespread testing, quarantine, and heavy initial buy in to masking -- with robust state provision of masks, quarantine facilities and rations, plus cellphone tracking in the case of Taiwan.

[DarrinS]

Contact tracing, rapid, widespread testing, quarantine, and heavy initial buy in to masking -- with robust state provision of masks, quarantine facilities and rations, plus cellphone tracking in the case of Taiwan.

Delusional covid-zero policy

[Winehole23]

Delusional covid-zero policyNot in the case of South Korea. The were reopening mass gatherings (e.g., opening day baseball) just when states here were issuing shelter at home orders.

[DarrinS]

Not in the case of South Korea. The were reopening mass gatherings (e.g., opening day baseball) just when states here were issuing shelter at home orders.

Regardless, they won't have mass deaths because YOU aren't their demographic.

[Winehole23]

Try again, glibmeister

[Winehole23]

Regardless, they won't have mass deaths because YOU aren't their demographic.damn, you're dumb.

one variable doesn't explain population differences in an airborne pandemic. caseload counts. law of large numbers.

[DarrinS]

Why are Japan and India doing so good? That should be the question.

[Winehole23]

Why are Japan and India doing so good? That should be the question.why is South Korea doing better than both?

[BackHome]

Contact tracing, rapid, widespread testing, quarantine, and heavy initial buy in to masking -- with robust state provision of masks, quarantine facilities and rations, plus cellphone tracking in the case of Taiwan.

Being an Island kinda helps them also

[Winehole23]

Called it

[BackHome]

Why are Japan and India doing so good? That should be the question.

I though India was doing really bad as far as deaths am I wrong?

[Winehole23]

Being an Island kinda helps them alsoAbsent robust public health policy, it wouldn't have.

[DarrinS]

why is South Korea doing better than both?

Why is Laos doing so much better than South Korea?

See how stupid this is getting?

All these countries are orders of magnitude better than the west.

They aren't fat.

[DarrinS]

I though India was doing really bad as far as deaths am I wrong?

Not currently

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Darrin trying hard to change the subject.

[DarrinS]

:lol Darrin trying hard to change the subject.

^ no one even talking to this dipshit. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

^ no one even talking to this dipshit. :lmaoYou've been talking to me all night.

This is you now.

:lmao

[Winehole23]

:lol Darrin trying hard to change the subject.One variable explains everything for Darrin. He's allergic to complexity.

[Winehole23]

Whoopsie, he did mention age. My bad.

I miss a post now and then.

[Winehole23]

He's up to two variables.

[Winehole23]

Still not sure why public health policy doesn't count at all for him.

[Winehole23]

Oh wait, maybe it's because ours is so shitty, comparatively.

[Winehole23]

Caseload counts.

Law of large numbers.

[Winehole23]

South Korea and Taiwan did well in large measure because they hindered transmission, thus managing the caseload.

[DarrinS]

One variable explains everything for Darrin. He's allergic to complexity.


Whoopsie, he did mention age. My bad.

I miss a post now and then.


He's up to two variables.


Still not sure why public health policy doesn't count at all for him.


Oh wait, maybe it's because ours is so shitty, comparatively.


Triggered


I've already had covid + 2 Pfizer shots (regret).

I just roll my eyes at you people with masks at Walmart. Its endemic now.

[Winehole23]

Triggered


I've already had covid + 2 Pfizer shots (regret).

I just roll my eyes at you people with masks at Walmart. Its endemic now.That's no reason not to try to prevent transmission and disease, tbh. Should we ditch municipal health codes because they don't eradicate endemic disease?

[DarrinS]

That's no reason not to try to prevent transmission and disease, tbh.

Meh, its a cold to me. Had my mom get a booster, since she's old.

[ChumpDumper]

you people:lol right, the guy who got instantly infected because of his poor hygiene tries to claim superiority

[Winehole23]

Meh, its a cold to me. Had my mom get a booster, since she's old.The danger of breakthrough infections with Omicron appears to be significantly higher than Delta.

Good luck.

[ElNono]

What explains why Taiwan is doing so much better than South Korea?

Full disclosure: Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan are all doing remarkably well

I haven't tracked Taiwan, do tell.

What I can tell you is that Taiwan only has slightly lower (13.9 vs 15.1) percentage of their population that is 65+, so whatever the difference is certainly not just age-related.

[ChumpDumper]

me:lmao

[ElNono]

Why are Japan and India doing so good? That should be the question.

India wasn't doing so great not that long ago. They had their "Italy moment". To a lesser degree, the same can be said about Japan right before the Olympics.

Countries doing better than the US doesn't mean they're doing "so good". The US has been pretty darned terrible at pandemic response.

[ChumpDumper]

Jesus, just say you still think Ivermectin works, Darrin.

[Winehole23]

Meh, its a cold to me. Had my mom get a booster, since she's old.Should we ditch municipal health codes, since they don't eradicate disease?

[DarrinS]

The danger of breakthrough infections with Omicron appears to be significantly higher than Delta.

Good luck.


Yep, we're all going to get it.

That GOF research was totally worth it.

[Winehole23]

:lmao

[Winehole23]

Tinhat Darrin

[DarrinS]

Jesus, just say you still think Ivermectin works, Darrin.

I think Ivermectin and Fluvoxamine are good therapeutics. The Pfizer drug, paxlovid, also good.

Merck drug, malnupiravir? Meh

[DarrinS]

Tinhat Darrin

Fat boy Whinehole

[ChumpDumper]

I think Ivermectin:lmao

[Winehole23]

Fat boy WhineholeDo you think we should ditch municipal health codes, because they don't eradicate endemic disease?

[Winehole23]

Fuck handwashing and food handling safety. People are just going to get sick anyway.

[DarrinS]

Fuck handwashing and food handling safety. People are just going to get sick anyway.

Most people do the things they should do to prevent illness. People get sick anyway.

[Winehole23]

Most people do the things they should do to prevent illness. People get sick anyway.So they should do nothing instead? That barely makes sense.

[Winehole23]

If not, why not?

[Winehole23]

Are you in favor of ditching municipal health codes, Darrin?

Why or why not?

[Ef-man]

If not, why not?

Guess Karrin foregoes cleaning his ass as he still got track marks despite his effort and it costs money . :lol

[Ef-man]

If not, why not?

Guess Karrin foregoes cleaning his ass as he still got track marks despite his effort and it costs money . :lol

[DarrinS]

Guess Karrin foregoes cleaning his ass as he still got track marks despite his effort and it costs money . :lol

Well, those are words in a sequence

[Winehole23]

Are you in favor of ditching municipal health codes, Darrin?

Why or why not?

https://i.gifer.com/g2vI.gif

[DarrinS]

I'm in favor of moving on.

Get your vax to protect yourself (that's why you get them).

This fixation on cases -- who cares? What we need to focus on -- are people getting sick?

[Winehole23]

It's a yes or no question, with a brief explanation why.

Too much for you?

[Ef-man]

Well, those are words in a sequence

Are you too triggered for punctuation?

[Winehole23]

Apples to apples comparison -- endemic transmissible disease.

[DarrinS]

Apples to apples comparison -- endemic transmissible disease.

Yes, its endemic now

[Winehole23]

Yes, its endemic nowYou left out the why. Do you think municipal health codes should be done away with, since they don't eradicate endemic disease?

If not, why not?

[Winehole23]

Maybe because, at the population level, sickness, preventable suffering and death are avoided thereby?

[DarrinS]

Do you think municipal health codes should be done away with, since they don't eradicate endemic disease?

If not, why not?


I couldn't tell you what are "municipal health codes" are.

[DarrinS]

Maybe because, at the population level, sickness, preventable suffering and death are avoided thereby?

Vaccinate the vulnerable population.

[Winehole23]

I couldn't tell you what are "municipal health codes" are.Ignorance wielded as a shield. So typical.


https://www.sanantonio.gov/Boarding-Homes-Ordinance/Health-Codes

[ChumpDumper]

I couldn't tell you what are "municipal health codes" are.Of course you couldn't, derp.:tu

[Winehole23]

Vaccinate the vulnerable population.that's one thing.

can you name other things that might hinder transmission?

[DarrinS]

Ignorance wielded as a shield. So typical.


https://www.sanantonio.gov/Boarding-Homes-Ordinance/Health-Codes


Thanks for that kitchen guidance

[DarrinS]

that's one thing.

can you name other things that might hinder transmission?


I'm not concerned about hindering transmission. Its endemic

[Winehole23]

Thanks for that kitchen guidanceDid you read any of it?

Do you agree or disagree with it?

[Winehole23]

I'm not concerned about hindering transmission. Its endemicso then, ditch the municipal health codes, since all they are trying to do is hinder the transmission of endemic disease and prevent contamination of water and so forth?

[Winehole23]

Or this feeling exclusive to COVID, for some reason?

[DMC]

Whoopsie, he did mention age. My bad.

I miss a post now and then.

:lol idiot

[Winehole23]

:lol idiotIt's not idiotic to admit mistakes, everybody makes em.

[Winehole23]

(I caught it before any of you did.)

[DarrinS]

so then, ditch the municipal health codes, since all they are trying to do is hinder the transmission of endemic disease and prevent contamination of water and so forth?


You got your booster, right? Wtf are you worried about?

[DMC]

It's not idiotic to admit mistakes, everybody makes em.

It's idiotic to make those kinds of mistakes when you're bloviating.

System worked :tu

:lol idiot

[Winehole23]

BTW, do you have a topical take, DMC, or are you just here again to gnaw on my crew socks? :lol

[Winehole23]

You got your booster, right? Wtf are you worried about?I'm worried about what will happen to masses of unprotected and underprotected people. Some of them friends and loved ones. Breakthrough infections are a heightened concern too, particularly for the unvaccinated/unboosted.

I work in public every day, I got over strictly personal concern awhile back. My mask protects others from me.

[DarrinS]

(I caught it before any of you did.)

Wasn't a choice for many of us. Zoom class was safe tho

[DMC]

BTW, do you have a topical take, DMC, or are you just here again to gnaw on my crew socks? :lol

Ask your buddy Chumpy the same question.

[DarrinS]

I'm worried about what will happen to masses of unprotected and underprotected people. Some of them friends and loved ones.

I work in public every day, I got over strictly personal concern awhile back. My mask protects others from me.


Lol, stop lying.

[Winehole23]

Lol, stop lying.I'm not. I was selling wine and restocking retail shelves -- an essential job, at the time -- when this started. I'm working in a restaurant now.

[DarrinS]

I'm not.

Your ability to work in public (so brave), every day, and put in ten miles of cycling, every day, and post here 24/7 is truly inspiring.

[Winehole23]

Ask your buddy Chumpy the same question.Biting ankles it is. No topical take.

Chumpy had a few, tho.

[Winehole23]

Your ability to work in public (so brave), every day, and put in ten miles of cycling, every day, and post here 24/7 is truly inspiring.it's not brave, it's just the life I chose.

[DMC]

Biting ankles it is. No topical take.

Chumpy had a few, tho.

I'll post as I please, it's a public forum.

[DMC]

it's not brave, it's just the life I chose.

I guess the doctor racket was overbooked.

[Winehole23]

I'll post as I please, it's a public forum.Does little favor to you, but you're welcome to it. :tu

[Winehole23]

I guess the doctor racket was overbooked.it was never my ambition to be a doctor

[DMC]

Does little favor to you, but you're welcome to it. :tu

Since you're not the gate keeper it's a moot point.

[DMC]

it was never my ambition to be a doctor

Shocking.

[Winehole23]

Since you're not the gate keeper it's a moot point.true, other posters will decide for themselves. no worries there.

[Winehole23]

Shocking.not really, you don't know me.

[DMC]

not really, you don't know me.

How do you know what I find shocking? you don't. I really expected you to be looking toward higher education, maybe working on a breakthrough and chasing the Nobel. I see all the flowery verbiage from you and cannot reconcile that with someone who rides a bike to a restuarant to wait tables.

[Winehole23]

How do you know what I find shocking? you don't. I really expected you to be looking toward higher education, maybe working on a breakthrough and chasing the Nobel. I see all the flowery verbiage from you and cannot reconcile that with someone who rides a bike to a restuarant to wait tables.
What flowery verbiage? It's all English to me. :lol

[Winehole23]

U SPEAK ENGLISH TOO GOOD

:lmao

[Winehole23]

so then, ditch the municipal health codes, since all they are trying to do is hinder the transmission of endemic disease and prevent contamination of water and so forth?Well, DarrinS? Do you think municipal health codes are bullshit?

A yes or no will do, I've given up asking you for a reason at this point.

[hater]

Your ability to work in public (so brave), every day, and put in ten miles of cycling, every day, and post here 24/7 is truly inspiring.

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

How do you know what I find shocking? you don't. I really expected you to be looking toward higher education, maybe working on a breakthrough and chasing the Nobel. I see all the flowery verbiage from you and cannot reconcile that with someone who rides a bike to a restuarant to wait tables.

Elitist DMC

[Ef-man]

What flowery verbiage? It's all English to me. :lol

The idiot must be asking you for a good English as a Second Language book referral. :lol

[DMC]

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:lol He can't help himself, no one talks to him.

[ChumpDumper]

Always triggers a response because DMC can't help himself.:tu

[Cuck Ross]

I'm not. I was selling wine and restocking retail shelves -- an essential job, at the time -- when this started. I'm working in a restaurant now.
Do you report 100% of your cash tips to your employer?

[ChumpDumper]

Tip reporting: a critical public health issue.

[hater]

:lmao "I work in the public and am an essential worker"

"I stack wines on shelves at stores" :lmao :lol

[DMC]

:lmao "I work in the public and am an essential worker"

"I stack wines on shelves at stores" :lmao :lol

https://image.shutterstock.com/image-vector/cartoon-character-cheerful-chubby-men-600w-126263858.jpg

[Winehole23]

Do you report 100% of your cash tips to your employer?I'm salaried, I don't participate in the tip pool.

[Winehole23]

MO was embarrassed by this chart from it's own Dept.of Health for some reason



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFoB7URXIAUte7d?format=jpg&name=medium
https://documentingcovid19.io/state/MO

[Winehole23]

https://image.shutterstock.com/image-vector/cartoon-character-cheerful-chubby-men-600w-126263858.jpgI loved being a waiter back when, I would definitely consider doing it again in the future. :tu

[Winehole23]

Masking works, y'all


Well-fitting FFP2 masks reduce the risk at least into the per thousand range.
As high as the risk of infection is without mouth-nose protection, medical or FFP2 masks protect effectively. The Göttingen study confirms that FFP2 or KN95 masks are particularly effective in filtering infectious particles from the air breathed - especially if they are as tightly sealed as possible at the face. If both the infected and the non-infected person wear well-fitting FFP2 masks, the maximum risk of infection after 20 minutes is hardly more than one per thousand, even at the shortest distance. If their masks fit poorly, the probability of infection increases to about four percent. If both wear well-fitting medical masks, the virus is likely to be transmitted within 20 minutes with a maximum probability of ten percent. The study also confirms the intuitive assumption that for effective protection against infection, in particular the infected person should wear a mask that filters as well as possible and fits tightly to the face.
https://www.mpg.de/17916867/coronavirus-masks-risk-protection

[Winehole23]

Source: https://www.pnas.org/content/118/49/e2110117118

[Ef-man]

I loved being a waiter back when, I would definitely consider doing it again in the future. :tu

Imagine these mitts serving food or drinks? :lol

https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68/Koolbreezey/DMCHand_zps86eecc97.jpg

[DarrinS]

https://www.samrc.ac.za/news/tshwane-district-omicron-variant-patient-profile-early-features

[Winehole23]

https://www.samrc.ac.za/news/tshwane-district-omicron-variant-patient-profile-early-featuresAre municipal health codes bullshit, in your opinion?

All they do is hinder transmission of endemic disease, maybe it's time to get rid of them. People are just going to get sick anyway. What do you think?

[SnakeBoy]

1467554490136080389

[SnakeBoy]

This largely predates Brandon, tbh... SK largely did things right from the get go, including contact tracing, among other things.

Meanwhile, here in third world country, we had people laughing at South Korea for the long lines to get masks back in the day...

El we've been over this a couple of times. I said Trump fucked up listening to the experts. Taiwan ignored the experts and restricted travel immediately. After only 2 cases SK had an emergency meeting with private industry to launch a mass testing program. It only took a week for the private market to get it up and running. Meanwhile the CDC experts insisted they were going to show the world how it should be done :lol

Biden is listening to those same elderly experts and racking up more bodies than Trump. They have purged those with a voice a reason from the CDC (Dr. Messonier) under Biden. They just bypassed the vaccine approval board. You really just going to continue with the cuz Trump routine?

[Winehole23]

Misinformation kills


https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1467434464577933314/1-_L6ysn?format=jpg&name=mediumhttps://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate

[Thread]

Like pulling teeth on Saturday, Sundays and Mondays.

Tuesday should be a humdinger though. I'm predicting 2k Tuesday---close of business.

[Thread]

Misinformation kills

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate

Boiled down:::

President Trump: 400k dead AmericansPERIOD
MF Biden: 409k dead Americans.
& counting, son.

[Winehole23]

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Back out on the street again, eh, Winester?

GD ya, boy, GD ya!!!

[Mark Celibate]

IT'S TEH FATTIES, GUISE


It's common knowledge at this point that the elderly and obese are among the highest risk for serious complications. But since you posted this in a mocking tone along with the words "TEH" and "GUISE" I guess that totally refutes the obesity issue in the US

[Mark Celibate]

How do you know what I find shocking? you don't. I really expected you to be looking toward higher education, maybe working on a breakthrough and chasing the Nobel. I see all the flowery verbiage from you and cannot reconcile that with someone who rides a bike to a restuarant to wait tables.

https://c.tenor.com/SLU9OF7U3zcAAAAC/shaq-big-dunk.gif

[SnakeBoy]

Like pulling teeth on Saturday, Sundays and Mondays.

Tuesday should be a humdinger though. I'm predicting 2k Tuesday---close of business.

Case counts going vertical in the blue states, it's going to get bad for Biden.

Btw CDC data has Trump body count at 424,395 on Jan 20, 2021. I swear it used to be 400K.

[Thread]

Case counts going vertical in the blue states, it's going to get bad for Biden.

Btw CDC data has Trump body count at 424,395 on Jan 20, 2021. I swear it used to be 400K.

Well, when I started my count it was at 400k and that's where it is staying.

[baseline bum]

Case counts going vertical in the blue states, it's going to get bad for Biden.

Btw CDC data has Trump body count at 424,395 on Jan 20, 2021. I swear it used to be 400K.

Lots of red counties in blue states, maybe it can help us with the House tbh

[SnakeBoy]

Lots of red counties in blue states, maybe it can help us with the House tbh

People are dying :cry
People are dying :cheer

Ole Joe failing so hard ya'll don't know which lane to pick :lol

[baseline bum]

People are dying :cry
People are dying :cheer

Ole Joe failing so hard ya'll don't know which lane to pick :lol

Now voter suppression bad when it's COVID doing the work?

[spurraider21]

The public is made up of individuals.
incredible insight

[DMC]

incredible insight

Great rebuttal.

[DMC]

:lol WH. When it was no longer a W to use states, he moves to counties to get a deaths trophy. Keep moving det goal post, maybe you'll drop a few lbs.

[spurraider21]

I keep treating it like it should be a personal choice if they are no more dangerous than you. It's their body.

You haven't defined your goal in any terms other than effort, everyone should do everything they can to mitigate the spread of the virus but that doesn't address what actually mitigates the spread. You've discounted social distancing when your own personal life is impacted, as unreasonable. So it must then be the level of immunity to the virus itself. But then you indicate that's not good enough either if there's more they can do. For them, there is no "unreasonable" but for you there is.


It’s not an individual concern though. It’s a public health concern.

And social distancing doesn’t mean the same thing as quarantining yourself non your home and never seeing family. But you know this, and are dishonest


The public is made up of individuals. The strength of public health relies on the strength of individual health. You pretend the strength of the structure doesn't rely on the strength of individual components because you have a simplistic view of the issue. You won't convince these people to do things they consider risky and unnecessary with the reasoning being that it's good for the public. You have to show them how it's good for the individual. But keep your blinders on and pretend you have the answer and no one will listen to you. You're arguing public health from an admin perspective and I am arguing individual choice from an individual perspective. You cannot be the entire public and you're not the admin, but I am the individual. So you're just creating a windmill to joust and screaming "dishonesty" when you cannot topple it. Good luck with it.
didnt need a rebuttal. you refused to engage with my point

the refusal to even engage with a "public issue" and treat it as a series of individual concerns is asinine

[hater]

1467554490136080389

:lmao :lmao :lol

Poor bastard jews :lol

[hater]

Boiled down:::

President Trump: 400k dead AmericansPERIOD
MF Biden: 409k dead Americans.
& counting, son.

Joe might DOUBLE Dumps bodycount when its all said and done :wow

[DMC]

didnt need a rebuttal. you refused to engage with my point

the refusal to even engage with a "public issue" and treat it as a series of individual concerns is asinine

You're trying to address it from an admin perspective (as I said) and discuss policy and "ought". I am instead referring to why a person wouldn't feel the need to be vaccinated and why it's not following the science to treat those people as lepers when they are likely more immune than you.

If it's a public health concern for them, why isn't it for you? Immunity is immunity.

[DMC]

:lmao :lmao :lol

Poor bastard jews :lol

They thought after WWII they'd be done being human Guinea pigs.

[ElNono]

El we've been over this a couple of times. I said Trump fucked up listening to the experts. Taiwan ignored the experts and restricted travel immediately. After only 2 cases SK had an emergency meeting with private industry to launch a mass testing program. It only took a week for the private market to get it up and running. Meanwhile the CDC experts insisted they were going to show the world how it should be done :lol

:lol "fucked up listening to the experts"... more like he kept going on and on how this thing was not a big deal (despite he knew the opposite, as we got to find out) and only listened to himself, which was very typical of him. Meanwhile, we let this thing spread freely everywhere.


Biden is listening to those same elderly experts and racking up more bodies than Trump. They have purged those with a voice a reason from the CDC (Dr. Messonier) under Biden. They just bypassed the vaccine approval board. You really just going to continue with the cuz Trump routine?

Sorry, I know you're trying really hard to disconnect the decisions of one administration from the other, that's very convenient, tbh... but we're looking at the 20-20 of who did things right or wrong, and how you tackle this from the very start matters, and matters a lot.

This is like getting a cancer diagnosis and asking your massage therapist for advice, then once the cancer spread all over your body and you finally go see an oncologist, you're bitching why he's not doing more, tbh... If you fucked up badly from the get go, the people that follow have to clean up your fucking mess, and sometimes the cat is just too out of the bag to put it back in.

I can definitely say Brandon could've done more things and some things better, despite certain governors trying to sabotage him, but I also think he had one or two things he couldn't fail on, like vaccine distribution, keeping an smart, educated, experienced person like Fauci around, etc, and he's done those things. He just inherited a really shitty situation.

[ElNono]

Misinformation kills

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate

Darwin won this round, tbh :tu

[DMC]

:lol "fucked up listening to the experts"... more like he kept going on and on how this thing was not a big deal (despite he knew the opposite, as we got to find out) and only listened to himself, which was very typical of him. Meanwhile, we let this thing spread freely everywhere.



Sorry, I know you're trying really hard to disconnect the decisions of one administration from the other, that's very convenient, tbh... but we're looking at the 20-20 of who did things right or wrong, and how you tackle this from the very start matters, and matters a lot.

This is like getting a cancer diagnosis and asking your massage therapist for advice, then once the cancer spread all over your body and you finally go see an oncologist, you're bitching why he's not doing more, tbh... If you fucked up badly from the get go, the people that follow have to clean up your fucking mess, and sometimes the cat is just too out of the bag to put it back in.

I can definitely say Brandon could've done more things and some things better, despite certain governors trying to sabotage him, but I also think he had one or two things he couldn't fail on, like vaccine distribution, keeping an smart, educated, experienced person like Fauci around, etc, and he's done those things. He just inherited a really shitty situation.

Are you suggesting he didn't know the situation when he said he'd stop COVID?

[Ef-man]

https://media.giphy.com/media/QVUL5Ix3SnYAKrAzwU/giphy.gif

[ElNono]

Are you suggesting he didn't know the situation when he said he'd stop COVID?

Where do you read that from what I posted above? Can you bold it, please?

I'm plainly stating that having an idiot for President when this started cost this country dearly, and the effects of that incompetence still reverberate today. It's easy to pretend we had a clean sheet starting January 2020, but that was not the case.

[spurraider21]

If it's a public health concern for them, why isn't it for you? Immunity is immunity.
its a public health for everyone, ie... the public

the only way i could get "more immunity" at this point would be to catch the virus. i dont think its reasonable policy to get people to catch a disease. i think its reasonable policy to get people vaccinated.

[DarrinS]

its a public health for everyone, ie... the public

the only way i could get "more immunity" at this point would be to catch the virus. i dont think its reasonable policy to get people to catch a disease. i think its reasonable policy to get people vaccinated.


Well, you're going to get it no matter how hard you try not to. Its endemic now. Sweet dreams. :lol

[spurraider21]

Well, you're going to get it no matter how hard you try not to. Its endemic now. Sweet dreams. :lol
we're all going to die no matter how hard we try not to. no point ever getting medical care again

[ElNono]

we're all going to die no matter how hard we try not to. no point ever getting medical care again

Exactly, it's the epitome of stupidity. Why take a shower if you you're going to get dirty again??!?!?11111 :lol

[DarrinS]

we're all going to die no matter how hard we try not to. no point ever getting medical care again

Well, I've had covid and double vaxxed. Something else I should do?

[Thanos]

Well, I've had covid and double vaxxed. Something else I should do?
Ah, the classic Darrin “I got mine, to hell with everybody else” attitude.

[DarrinS]

Ah, the classic Darrin “I got mine, to hell with everybody else” attitude.

Everyone I know is fully vaccinated. Anything else we should do?

[daboom1]

Everyone I know is fully vaccinated. Anything else we should do?

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1467602758597595146?s

[spurraider21]

Well, I've had covid and double vaxxed. Something else I should do?
Booster?

[Winehole23]

Exactly, it's the epitome of stupidity. Why take a shower if you you're going to get dirty again??!?!?11111 :lolFood and drink do not work. Earlier today I ate and drank and you know what? My hunger and my thirst came back. What a scam.

[Winehole23]

Well, I've had covid and double vaxxed. Something else I should do?Put on a mask in crowded indoor places to hinder transmission. You might get it again, or give it to someone else unwittingly.

[Winehole23]

Well, you're going to get it no matter how hard you try not to. Its endemic now. Sweet dreams. :lolFoodborne pathogens like

Norovirus.
Salmonella.
Clostridium perfringens.
Campylobacter.
Staphylococcus aureus (Staph)

...are all endemic.

Should we ditch food handling regulations since people are just going to catch them eventually anyway?

[Winehole23]

The answer Darrin, is no, and of course not.

Why should it be any different for a airborne communicable disease that has killed 800,000 people (and counting) in this country and incapacitated many more in the last two years?

[Winehole23]

Because your political ikon screwed it up and lost the election? That's a rather high price to pay for political bad feels.

[Winehole23]

Darwin won this round, tbh :tulooking at it from the other side, everyone who died lost. they probably also infected others who didn't deserve it or who didn't necessarily agree with them, who got sick and/or died despite personal honest good will.

net loss, tbh.

[Winehole23]

CDC estimates that each year roughly 1 in 6 Americans (or 48 million people) gets sick, 128,000 are hospitalized, and 3,000 die of foodborne diseases.are health regulations overkill?

[Winehole23]

Why or why not?

[Winehole23]

are health regulations overkill?Rate of mortality is very low, what's the big deal?

Yet every city, county and state has them.

[Winehole23]

Were they cowed into it by the yellow press, or is there a tangible social benefit too?

[Winehole23]

Were they cowed into it by the yellow press, or is there a tangible social benefit too?Fewer people get sick and/or die. That's the social benefit.

Are state, county and municipal health codes worth it for that reason?

If yes, why not for COVID too?

[Winehole23]

It would be well if states, counties and cities started to take indoor air quality and ventilation as seriously as they did food and water sanitation in the early 20th century.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1467602758597595146?s

:lmao nerds

[ElNono]

looking at it from the other side, everyone who died lost. they probably also infected others who didn't deserve it or who didn't necessarily agree with them, who got sick and/or died despite personal honest good will.

net loss, tbh.

I'm not happy that Darwin won because it means this was preventable. He doesn't really care about your feelings or your political leanings.

It does get to a point where you can no longer claim ignorance though, and at that point you cross into sheer stupidity. I simply have much less empathy with the later group.

[Winehole23]

Given popular disdain (plus political aversion/animus) in the USA toward non-medical measures to hinder transmission of COVID, the absolute number of people requiring hospitalization could be catastrophic, if Omicron outcompetes Delta.

Another warp speed push for therapeutic treatments and 2nd generation vaccines, at a minimum, would be a good idea. Frank official advice about airborne disease, air quality and indoor gatherings would also be timely, but there's approximately zero chance the Biden administration would risk "ruining Christmas" by doing so.

I give it two to three months until antivaxxers/antimaskers on this board start blaming Biden for not doing enough to stem transmission of SARS-CoV-2. I sure hope I'm wrong.



COVID-19 hospitalizations are rising rapidly in a populous South African province where the new omicron variant of the coronavirus has been detected.

Hospitalizations across the country have increased by 63 percent since the beginning of the month, according to data from the country’s National Institute for Communicable Diseases. In Gauteng, a province that includes the country’s largest city, Johannesburg, hospitalizations are up by nearly 400 percent since the beginning of the month, from 120 for the week ending Nov. 6 to 580 for the week ending Saturday.

The South Africa diseases institute, part of the group of researchers and government institutions that first reported the variant to the World Health Organization, said in a statement that omicron cases were found in Gauteng at “a relatively high frequency.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/data-graphics/covid-19-hospitalizations-rising-south-africas-omicron-hot-spot-rcna6922

[pgardn]

are health regulations overkill?

Its not your right to suggest people who work with food wash their hands.
I mean it could lead to some sort of OCD where they wash their hands so much they get infections because they kill the normal bacterial flora on the hands.
Public Health.

Koriwhat does not have to follow basic OSHA guidelines in his tat parlor. He can needle people and not worry about a thing. "Fck OSHA recommendations when I stick people. They should know I am careful. If they get an infection from my place of business then the logical consequence is they wont come anymore so fk em"

FREEDOM!

[Winehole23]

Boston-area wastewater assays for SARS-CoV-2 are approaching February's peak

https://www.mwra.com/biobot/MWRAData20211204-NSGraph.JPG

[spurraider21]

looked back at it, because i admittedly dont really keep up to speed with kim iversen. i just remember having seen her name mentioned where she was arguing about not voting biden against trump.

to correct myself, she said that she would not vote biden in the general election, not that she would vote pro trump.

i think the effect is the same, so she's one of those braindead bernieorbusters
:lmao

1467055081300312068

[CosmicCowboy]

So....who is wearing their mask at HEB?

I will start. I dont.

[CNN]

:lmao

1467055081300312068
Thank you for your support. Obviously we would never do what we are being accused of. I think it's common sense that there was no available photo of the mug shot before the mug shot.

[hater]

Called it :tu

Me

I called it :tu



Pandemic over :tu


(CNN)Early reports on the quick spread of the Omicron variant in South Africa were at first frightening, but then began to offer some hope. The new variant may have quickly overtaken other strains of the virus in South Africa as it enters the summer, but cases so far appear to have been overwhelmingly mild.


:tu

[hater]

Why? Omicrap is mild and vaxed are spreading it :lmao

Called it a week ago :tu

[hater]

So....who is wearing their mask at HEB?

I will start. I dont.

Since we all need Omicron to spread like wildfire. Im done w masks :tu

Omicron! Omicron!


:tu

[boutons_deux]

HEB/Northwood, nearly everybody has masks. I noticed only one so-called lady without.

[hater]

You said that about the OG and delta. :lol

Nope I didnt :lol

Liar

[DarrinS]

HEB/Northwood, nearly everybody has masks. I noticed only one so-called lady without.

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.2580db8517e58b3eb7f6c5c237bcacd0?rik=giBMWka0G8D R6A&pid=ImgRaw&r=0

[Winehole23]

First quantification I've seen on how much COVID is preventing people from going to work. From a Boston University assistant prof, compiled from the US Census's Household Pulse Sur (https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/household-pulse-survey/data.html)vey. It's yet another reason why people aren't showing up for shit jobs.

1467855575455313924

[Winehole23]

This from BLS shows (part of) the impact of COVID and the post-infection sequelae of COVID ("long COVID".)

People who've dropped off the employment rolls or who were never recorded as too ill to work wouldn't show up here.

https://i1.wp.com/live.staticflickr.com/65535/51725345467_348cafd06b_z.jpg?resize=640%2C459&ssl=1

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU02006735&years_option=all_years

[Thread]

First quantification I've seen on how much COVID is preventing people from going to work. From a Boston University assistant prof, compiled from the US Census's Household Pulse Sur (https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/household-pulse-survey/data.html)vey. It's yet another reason why people aren't showing up for shit jobs.

1467855575455313924


Ain't gonna see that on CNN.
Shit, you ain't gonna see that on FOX neither.

[Winehole23]

So....who is wearing their mask at HEB?

I will start. I dont.I do. COVID is airborne.


https://www.mpg.de/17916867/coronavirus-masks-risk-protection

[baseline bum]

So....who is wearing their mask at HEB?

I will start. I dont.

I never stopped.

[SnakeBoy]

Called it :tu

Me

I called it :tu



Pandemic over :tu


(CNN)Early reports on the quick spread of the Omicron variant in South Africa were at first frightening, but then began to offer some hope. The new variant may have quickly overtaken other strains of the virus in South Africa as it enters the summer, but cases so far appear to have been overwhelmingly mild.


:tu

Still not buying that it is milder in naive people, if it gets proven true you did call it first.

[SnakeBoy]

So....who is wearing their mask at HEB?

I will start. I dont.

I haven't worn a mask since Biden told me not to.

[SnakeBoy]

First quantification I've seen on how much COVID is preventing people from going to work. From a Boston University assistant prof, compiled from the US Census's Household Pulse Sur (https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/household-pulse-survey/data.html)vey. It's yet another reason why people aren't showing up for shit jobs.

1467855575455313924


Covid policies punish the poors the most. It's been that way since the start.

[Winehole23]

Covid policies punish the poors the most. It's been that way since the start.quite the reverse, the lack of public health support and our utter failure to manage the COVID caseload hits the poor people hardest.

ergo, poor people probably benefit the most from robust COVID policies and public health.

[boutons_deux]

homicidal Fox News refuses to tell its ignorant, duped, stupid viewers that Trash counties are dying from covid at much higher rate than Biden counties

[boutons_deux]

The Trash-Made Pandemic of the UnVaccinated


Nearly Every State Has 70 Percent of ICU Beds or More in Use as COVID Cases Climb


https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-every-state-has-70-percent-icu-beds-more-use-covid-cases-climb-1656351

[hater]

Still not buying that it is milder in naive people, if it gets proven true you did call it first.

Trust me ma nig. And pray as well that this is the one that ends the pandemic :tu

https://twitter.com/DarnelSugarfoo/status/1465100774803795969?s=19


https://twitter.com/smiffy_73/status/1468281232890941442?s=19

https://twitter.com/killedbyproxy/status/1465769265689157634?s=19

[Winehole23]

Latest CDC community profile report.

file:///C:/Users/PF0F7MTF/Downloads/Community_Profile_Report_20211206.pdf

[SnakeBoy]

Latest CDC community profile report.

file:///C:/Users/PF0F7MTF/Downloads/Community_Profile_Report_20211206.pdf

:lol

[Thread]

From the great state of Arizona, land of legal U turns & A/C's powered on right thru December and into January.
The BLUE state of Arizona lodges 172 Americans dead with the COVID.

Let us proceed...

[Thread]

From the great state of Minnesota, their favored son; George "Rockhead" Floyd, along w/Paul and his Bunyan.
The Blue state of Minnesota lodges on a Tuesday afternoon 45 Americans dead with the COVID.

Let us proceed...

[Thread]

As Billy Ray tells it..."all gave some."

From the Veterans Administration & their attendant Affairs...let Cyrus get on with it..."some gave all."

81 so far of [a day that shall live in infamy.]

& counting, children.

[Winehole23]

Florida bullies researchers and scientists

1468243579881594880

[hater]

Called it :tu


I did


I called it :tu

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1468184575587360772?s=19

[hater]

Back to work daily for most peeps :pctoss

[hater]

:lmao

Lots of posters here be like:

https://twitter.com/spencermorgan93/status/1468262813567172615?s=19


Unlimited vax boosters = 10000000.gazillion $

Omicron infection FTMFW = free


:lol pfizer


Better sell you stock jigs :lol

[hater]

:lmao :lol

There is a special place in hell for this sonofabitch a place right next to John Mccain, Hitler and Osama Bi Laden

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1468239798964047888?s=19

[Thread]

Florida bullies researchers and scientists

1468243579881594880

Santis saw from happened up north with Cuomo getting away with it. Nothing happened to him. He wasn't thrown out for not counting thousands of dead old New Yorkers. He was thrown out for playing stinky finger and grab ass with hot women. At least Santis doesn't play those games down in the Florida, yet.

Old Ron (1) Santis. He always reports (1) dead Floridian each day. tee, hee.

[ElNono]

:lmao :lol

There is a special place in hell for this sonofabitch a place right next to John Mccain, Hitler and Osama Bi Laden

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1468239798964047888?s=19

What's wrong about that statement? Being prepared bad now?

[hater]

What's wrong about that statement? Being prepared bad now?

Its called reaching natural herd immunity.

We gonna do it nig!!!

No more shit vaxes. That bastard Pfizer ceo will burn in hell for eternity.

Mother Nature gave us another chance :tu

Omicron! Omicron! Omicron!


We did it!


:tu


And I called it :tu

[hater]

Santis saw from happened up north with Cuomo getting away with it. Nothing happened to him. He wasn't thrown out for not counting thousands of dead old New Yorkers. He was thrown out for playing stinky finger and grab ass with hot women. At least Santis doesn't play those games down in the Florida, yet.

Old Ron (1) Santis. He always reports (1) dead Floridian each day. tee, hee.

You just survived the.Covid pandemic ma nig!!!


Congrats!

[SnakeBoy]

:lmao :lol

There is a special place in hell for this sonofabitch a place right next to John Mccain, Hitler and Osama Bi Laden

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1468239798964047888?s=19

Do we want a stronger vaccine or a weaker virus?

https://d30fl32nd2baj9.cloudfront.net/media/2020/11/10/bourla-pfizer-ceo-091120-01.jpg/ALTERNATES/w640/bourla-pfizer-ceo-091120-01.jpg

[DMC]

Where do you read that from what I posted above? Can you bold it, please?

I'm plainly stating that having an idiot for President when this started cost this country dearly, and the effects of that incompetence still reverberate today. It's easy to pretend we had a clean sheet starting January 2020, but that was not the case.

"He just inherited a really shitty situation."

[ElNono]

Its called reaching natural herd immunity.

We gonna do it nig!!!

No more shit vaxes. That bastard Pfizer ceo will burn in hell for eternity.

Mother Nature gave us another chance :tu

Omicron! Omicron! Omicron!

We did it!

:tu

And I called it :tu

That's a giant word salad that doesn't address the question.

We're going to reach "natural herd immunity" like we did with the flu, a 100+ year old disease that still mutates and still is best fought with vaccines?

Or the plethora of other diseases we vaccinate our kids against (like polio, etc) because, it turns out, there's no such thing as "natural herd immunity" with them?

Dunno if you changed your weed provider lately, but I would check into that, tbh

[ElNono]

"He just inherited a really shitty situation."

And how do you go from that fact to:


Are you suggesting he didn't know the situation when he said he'd stop COVID?

???

[DMC]

Called it :tu

Me

I called it :tu



Pandemic over :tu


(CNN)Early reports on the quick spread of the Omicron variant in South Africa were at first frightening, but then began to offer some hope. The new variant may have quickly overtaken other strains of the virus in South Africa as it enters the summer, but cases so far appear to have been overwhelmingly mild.


:tu

"Why blame South Africa? It's really not fair"

"South Africa ended the pandemic"

He who smelt it dealt it tbh

[hater]

That's a giant word salad that doesn't address the question.

We're going to reach "natural herd immunity" like we did with the flu, a 100+ year old disease that still mutates and still is best fought with vaccines?

Or the plethora of other diseases we vaccinate our kids against (like polio, etc) because, it turns out, there's no such thing as "natural herd immunity" with them?

Dunno if you changed your weed provider lately, but I would check into that, tbh

We do have some immunity to the flu ma salvadorian bitcoin miner

Otherwise wed be dropping dead like the american natives did when Eurotrash showed up :lol

We did it!!!!


Omicron! Omicron! Omicron!


Pandemic is kaput :tu

[DMC]

And how do you go from that fact to:



???

If you can say "I will stop COVID" and you don't, then you either didn't understand the problem or you were full of shit. I think he understood the problem. This is why I was saying giving him the "inherited a shitty situation" out isn't required.

[ElNono]

We do have some immunity to the flu ma salvadorian bitcoin miner

Otherwise wed be dropping dead like the american natives did when Eurotrash showed up :lol

We did it!!!!

Omicron! Omicron! Omicron!

Pandemic is kaput :tu

That's the point though, we also develop new vaccines for different variants on the flu every year, because it does mutate. "Natural herd immunity" didn't end that, at all.

So, again what was wrong with that statement?

[ElNono]

If you can say "I will stop COVID" and you don't, then you either didn't understand the problem or you were full of shit. I think he understood the problem. This is why I was saying giving him the "inherited a shitty situation" out isn't required.

He was full of shit, no doubt about it. That doesn't change the fact that he inherited a shitty situation.

[SnakeBoy]

That's a giant word salad that doesn't address the question.

We're going to reach "natural herd immunity" like we did with the flu, a 100+ year old disease that still mutates and still is best fought with vaccines?

Or the plethora of other diseases we vaccinate our kids against (like polio, etc) because, it turns out, there's no such thing as "natural herd immunity" with them?

Dunno if you changed your weed provider lately, but I would check into that, tbh

Polio wasn't a problem when we had natural herd immunity to it. It only became a problem when people stopped getting infected naturally in their first 18 months of life.

There's no stopping this virus with vaccines. That should be obvious by now. It's a common cold virus when we adapt to it, unless Hater is right and it adapted to us.

[Winehole23]

"Cynical jade fumes about grandiose political rhetoric"

[hater]

"Why blame South Africa? It's really not fair"

"South Africa ended the pandemic"

He who smelt it dealt it tbh

:tu

That lady doctor who discovered Omicron should definitely get the NOBEL

:tu

[hater]

That's the point though, we also develop new vaccines for different variants on the flu every year, because it does mutate. "Natural herd immunity" didn't end that, at all.

So, again what was wrong with that statement?

90% of humans on earth dont take that shitty "flu vaccine"


Hopefully soon it will be the same with the shitty.Covid "vaccines"


We did it! :tu

[SnakeBoy]

"He just inherited a really shitty situation."

POTUS becomes powerless when it's a D in office. Funny how that works.

[DMC]

POTUS becomes powerless when it's a D in office. Funny how that works.

He didn't inherit shit. He campaigned and ran for office just to take it on. It's not like he wasn't aware of it, like a genetic disorder. Who else applies for a task then claims they inherited it after getting hired? It's not like Biden was the natural next in line and it just happened to fall on his watch. I don't recall anyone saying Trump inherited it, and he didn't even know it was coming.

[pgardn]

The vaccine works extraordinarily well. Period. And this vaccine has had to take on a virus that is as easy if not easier to catch than cold viruses.

But people's brains and behavior that necessarily work well (as evidence on this board), and that behavior has made a rather nasty virus (because: 1. It infects very easily 2. It is a killer, its not a cold virus) so difficult.

[ChumpDumper]

Why are Trumptards so angry about everything?

[Thread]

Why are Trumptards so angry about everything?

Because there is a squatter in there named MF Biden.

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He didn't inherit shit. He campaigned and ran for office just to take it on. It's not like he wasn't aware of it, like a genetic disorder. Who else applies for a task then claims they inherited it after getting hired? It's not like Biden was the natural next in line and it just happened to fall on his watch. I don't recall anyone saying Trump inherited it, and he didn't even know it was coming.

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[daboom1]

Because there is a squatter in there named MF Biden.

[ChumpDumper]

Trumptards always fold when asked how the election was actually "st:crylen."

[hater]

Trumptards always fold when asked how the election was actually "st:crylen."

Reminds me of Pavlov and the shillarytards when asked how Russia stole the 2016 election :lmao

[ElNono]

Polio wasn't a problem when we had natural herd immunity to it. It only became a problem when people stopped getting infected naturally in their first 18 months of life.

lol, this is trolling...


There's no stopping this virus with vaccines. That should be obvious by now. It's a common cold virus when we adapt to it, unless Hater is right and it adapted to us.

Stopping this virus was never a goal, AFAIK. Keeping it under control was and is, much like the flu is kept under control primarily through vaccination.

That said, stopping 'a' virus via vaccination is not unheard of either. Take Polio, a virus that still exists today, is a great example of how you 'stop' viruses via vaccination. That said, it clearly is a different ballgame when we're talking airborne.

[ElNono]

90% of humans on earth dont take that shitty "flu vaccine"

Hopefully soon it will be the same with the shitty.Covid "vaccines"

We did it! :tu

So that means almost 800 million people do take the "shitty flu vaccine" which saves lives, likely because it's indeed the best option not to die of the flu.

COVID also doesn't kill 98% of the people it infects... that's still 150 million plus people dead. Vaccines reduce that number substantially, which is why they're not going anywhere...

[ElNono]

POTUS becomes powerless when it's a D in office. Funny how that works.

President suddenly owns and is in charge of everything, including the fuckups of the previous administration. Funny how that works.

And this grossly misstates what I said. I did mention he had at least a couple of things like vaccine distribution he definitely owned and couldn't whiff on. You just mad Brandon delivered, tbh...


He didn't inherit shit. He campaigned and ran for office just to take it on. It's not like he wasn't aware of it, like a genetic disorder. Who else applies for a task then claims they inherited it after getting hired? It's not like Biden was the natural next in line and it just happened to fall on his watch. I don't recall anyone saying Trump inherited it, and he didn't even know it was coming.

He doesn't need to lay claim to anything. He stepped into office and there was a mismanaged pandemic. Heck, that's likely the #1 reason the big loser was booted and he got the job.

You can argue he did a good or bad job since he was at the helm, and I would agree with you that Old Joe is full of shit, but the fact that this was mismanaged from the start is not really dabatable. When we talk about countries that dealt with this pandemic much better than we did, it's unequivocal that they made the right calls from the very start.