Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/94879122_10157415561872965_5170371249712398336_n.j pg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=WkoHzWrmZQ8AX_k3n_g&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=6d97c5a2a557919f1e407e6602f9512e&oe=5ECD85AC

[Winehole23]

Wuhan lab 'most likely' coronavirus source, U.S. government analysis finds

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/28/wuhan-laboratory-most-likely-coronavirus-source-us/Trump admimistration crowdsources a guess.

Impressive.



The document, compiled from open sources and not a finished product, says there is no smoking gun to blame the virus on either the Wuhan Institute of Virology or the Wuhan branch of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, both located in the city where the first outbreaks were reported.

But “there is circumstantial evidence to suggest such may be the case,” the paper says.

[boutons_deux]

Wuhan lab 'most likely' coronavirus source, U.S. government analysis finds

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/28/wuhan-laboratory-most-likely-coronavirus-source-us/

International Researchers Conclude COVID-19 is Not Man-Made

https://www.biospace.com/article/stop-the-conspiracy-theories-novel-coronavirus-has-natural-origin/

WT part of the right wing hate media's orchestrated scapegoating of WHO and China, to protect Trash from his blatant failures to govern.

No matter the origin, Trash and his mafiya fucked up and fucked America horribly

[picnroll]

what's the cost of remdesivir ?

Almost definitely no price yet, still investigational. They had to forgo orphan status which should limit cost. If it works to some extent supply will be an issue for sure. So far best outlook helps in some cases given earlier in disease, question is how many, but not the complete panacea everyone is hoping for.

[Splits]

1255290725744418816

Brooklyn yesterday

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/mayor-de-blasio-nypd-break-up-williamsburg-streets-packed-for-brooklyn-rabbi-funeral/2394306/

[baseline bum]

1255290725744418816

Brooklyn yesterday

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/mayor-de-blasio-nypd-break-up-williamsburg-streets-packed-for-brooklyn-rabbi-funeral/2394306/

Hasidic Jews even more fucking retarded than Evangelical Christians :pctoss

[picnroll]

Wisconsin health department: 36 people positive for coronavirus after primary vote
The count of people exposed to the virus during the April 7 election is likely to grow in the coming weeks.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/04/27/wisconsin-tested-positive-coronavirus-election-211495

Guess we can put Wisconsin in the blue column.

[Splits]

With the country opened up I'm starting to expect Osterholm's 400,000 dead prediction to be a lot more likely than only 100,000. Because it's not going to close again. Corporate America already got their bailout and Mnuchin can do it nine more times.

Even if the lockdown were to remain in place, 100k dead is already guaranteed around end-May with current infections. All you have to do is look at Italy's Mar 27 spike and look at where they are today (1/3-1/2 deaths from spike per day after 30 days) and still bleeding. Map that spike to US spike on Apr 21 and by May 21 we'll still be averaging 900-1400 deaths/day. The bleed out of this thing is ugly.

[Splits]

Hasidic Jews even more fucking retarded than Evangelical Christians :pctoss

Hope my Cuomo's got a word for these selfish fucks during this briefing he's giving.

[Thread]

Hope my Cuomo's got a word for these selfish fucks during this briefing he's giving.

...just the white selfish fucks. He forgets that he's a white selfish fuck.

[Splits]

...just the white selfish fucks. He forgets that he's a white selfish fuck.

If they were blacks, there would have been multiple arrests.

[Thread]

Wisconsin health department: 36 people positive for coronavirus after primary vote
The count of people exposed to the virus during the April 7 election is likely to grow in the coming weeks.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/04/27/wisconsin-tested-positive-coronavirus-election-211495

Guess we can put Wisconsin in the blue column.

Though they don't fucking dare print out such statistics of that last Super Tuesday when Sanders was slabbed & tagged, by God.

Christ, and I'm the only fuck that even lodges that violation. You'd think the old man would hammer it home? No. Won't touch it with a 10 ft. pole.

[hater]

With the country opened up I'm starting to expect Osterholm's 400,000 dead prediction to be a lot more likely than only 100,000. Because it's not going to close again. Corporate America already got their bailout and Mnuchin can do it nine more times.

taking it on the chin, eh mate?

[Thread]

If they were blacks, there would have been multiple arrests.

At least you're arrested. They want to kill white, stretch us out & post us.

[baseline bum]

Even if the lockdown were to remain in place, 100k dead is already guaranteed around end-May with current infections. All you have to do is look at Italy's Mar 27 spike and look at where they are today (1/3-1/2 deaths from spike per day after 30 days) and still bleeding. Map that spike to US spike on Apr 21 and by May 21 we'll still be averaging 900-1400 deaths/day. The bleed out of this thing is ugly.

Yeah looks pretty likely. And now our Dear Leader throwing gas on the fire.

[baseline bum]

taking it on the chin, eh mate?

Such an unjust world where Boris Johnson survived the plague he has doomed 22,000 of his people to so far.

[TimDunkem]

Even if the lockdown were to remain in place, 100k dead is already guaranteed around end-May with current infections. All you have to do is look at Italy's Mar 27 spike and look at where they are today (1/3-1/2 deaths from spike per day after 30 days) and still bleeding. Map that spike to US spike on Apr 21 and by May 21 we'll still be averaging 900-1400 deaths/day. The bleed out of this thing is ugly.

Probably more with all the reopenings. America continues to never fail to fail in the 21st century.

[hater]

Such an unjust world where Boris Johnson survived the plague he has doomed 22,000 of his people to so far.

that asshole missed the first months of emergency meetings UK had where they decided to let a few hundred thousand die to protect their shitty economy

he did worse job than Trump

wish these 3 had contracted Corona, Ebola and aids tbqh:
Bolsohitler - pure evil guy
Bojo - completely inept
Trump - old stubborn dumb bastard

[picnroll]

Though they don't fucking dare print out such statistics of that last Super Tuesday when Sanders was slabbed & tagged, by God.

Christ, and I'm the only fuck that even lodges that violation. You'd think the old man would hammer it home? No. Won't touch it with a 10 ft. pole.

Let’s see, super Tuesday was March 3 before stay at home orders. Wisconsin primary was April 7 14 days after Wisconsin stay at home order. Democratic governor tried to postpone the primary but Repugnant state legislature and Repugnant state supreme court overrode to try and pack the bench further (failure :lol). You deflect and obfuscate almost as poorly as your hero Trash.

[baseline bum]

that asshole missed the first months of emergency meetings UK had where they decided to let a few hundred thousand die to protect their shitty economy

he did worse job than Trump

wish these 3 had contracted Corona, Ebola and aids tbqh:
Bolsohitler - pure evil guy
Bojo - completely inept
Trump - old stubborn dumb bastard

Early call for that when Trump has decided we're going the original Boris Johnson route anyways now that he got the corporate bailout passed. And all three are pure evil. Boris Johnson being a dumbass is just an act.

[DMC]

Wait, coronavirus deaths being missed? Where are they hiding the 7700 bodies? How are they stopping the families from rioting?

[ChumpDumper]

Wait, coronavirus deaths being missed? Where are they hiding the 7700 bodies? How are they stopping the families from rioting?Excess death figures for most countries are out now. You're free to look up that of South Korea if you want to prove something.

[picnroll]

Fauci said Remdesivir data showed quite good news.

[boutons_deux]

As ‘quarantine fatigue’ spreads, Fauci says second wave of coronavirus is ‘inevitable’

said a second wave of infections is “inevitable” in the United States, which has recorded more than 1 million confirmed cases — nearly one-third of the global total.

Fauci also warned that “we could be in for a bad fall and a bad winter” if the right countermeasures aren’t put in place.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/04/29/coronavirus-latest-news/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/04/29/coronavirus-latest-news/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most)

[boutons_deux]

Antibody tests support what’s been obvious: Covid-19 is much more lethal than the flu

The new serological data, which is provisional, suggests that

coronavirus infections greatly outnumber confirmed covid-19 cases, potentially by a factor of 10 or more.

Many people experience mild symptoms or none at all, and never get the standard diagnostic test with a swab up the nose, so they’re missed in the official covid-19 case counts.

Higher infection rates mean lower lethality risk (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/as-officials-plan-to-reopen-the-economy-a-key-unknown-remains-how-deadly-is-the-coronavirus/2020/04/17/0bd2f938-7e49-11ea-a3ee-13e1ae0a3571_story.html?tid=lk_inline_manual_7&itid=lk_inline_manual_7)on average.

But

the corollary is that

this is a very contagious disease capable of being spread by people who are asymptomatic

— a challenge for communities hoping to end their shutdowns.

have been about 6 percent globally as well as in the United States.

But when all the serological data is compiled and analyzed,

the fatality rate among people who have been infected could be less than 1 percent.

even a seemingly low rate can translate into a shockingly large death toll if the virus spreads through a major portion of the population.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/antibody-tests-support-whats-been-obvious-covid-19-is-much-more-lethal-than-flu/2020/04/28/2fc215d8-87f7-11ea-ac8a-fe9b8088e101_story.html

[Play Boban]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Sleepy Joe created this virus in his basement to infect MAGA reflection chances. In fact I belief ritut

[GAustex]

Lefties want that W bad

[DMC]

Excess death figures for most countries are out now. You're free to look up that of South Korea if you want to prove something.

So the ability to have that many excess deaths recorded improperly only exists outside of South Korea.

Else you have to hide bodies and subdue families, and no one sees a possible other explanation.

Got it

[ChumpDumper]

So the ability to have that many excess deaths recorded improperly only exists outside of South Korea.

Else you have to hide bodies and subdue families, and no one sees a possible other explanation.

Got itSo you're not going to look and just want to stick to your shrewish innuendo.

Got it.

[ChumpDumper]

I mean it's not like you're the only person who ever thought of these things, Karen.

United States
Official deaths according to Johns Hopkins University: 24,429

On Feb. 28, a Washington state man in his 50s became the first confirmed coronavirus death in the U.S. As of April 14, the nation’s death toll stood at more than 24,000, making it the highest in the world.

And epidemiologists in the U.S. suspect that, due to the general lack of testing capacity and varying standards from state to state, this number may be an underestimate. Earlier this year, the percentage of deaths due to pneumonia nationwide was declining.
By mid-March, pneumonia-related deaths were above the threshold that would be considered alarming. Normally, a decline in flu deaths would coincide with a decline in pneumonia fatalities. In Washington state, Florida and New York, pneumonia deaths increased even as deaths due to the flu were declining, according to data collected by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

“In the United States, testing started very slowly which allowed the virus to spread silently through the population,” Chowell said. “And then obviously when people start to die, they are classified as a death from a respiratory disease or flu-like symptoms who may also have hypertension or diabetes. Those deaths will likely not get counted when in reality it was the virus that triggered their death.”

The CDC came to pretty much the same conclusion: “Deaths due to COVID-19 may be misclassified as pneumonia deaths in the absence of positive test results, and pneumonia may appear on death certificates as a comorbid condition. Thus, increases in pneumonia deaths may be an indicator of excess COVID-19-related mortality.”

As with some countries in Europe, the U.S. is working to establish a more real-time understanding of deaths that may be coronavirus related but have been attributed to other causes. Normally, this kind of analysis — called excess mortality surveys — takes a year to develop.

South Korea
Official deaths according to Johns Hopkins University: 225

Because of a rigorous testing regime, South Korea's mortality statistics are likely the most accurate in the world, said Daniel Lopez-Acuna, an epidemiologist who spent 30 years at the World Health Organization. South Korea's testing regime, which is responsible for roughly 400,000 molecular tests, has enabled it to “trace, test, treat” a large proportion of the population relative to other countries. This has also kept the number of reported infections at 10,591.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/official-coronavirus-death-tolls-are-only-estimate-problem-n1183756

[DMC]

Fauci said Remdesivir data showed quite good news.

No China said it doesn't work.

[DMC]

So you're not going to look and just want to stick to your shrewish innuendo.

Got it.

It's irrelevant to the point I was making. You know that, you're just being the prototypical douchebag.

[ChumpDumper]

It's irrelevant to the point I was making. You know that, you're just being the prototypical douchebag.Kitty got her claws out.

There are innocent explanations for undercounts as shown above, but as the number of deaths grows, the incentive for some parties to withhold numbers also increases. You could fill in the blanks about whom those parties might be, but you're only going to speculate when it suits your agenda.

[DMC]

Kitty got her claws out.

There are innocent explanations for undercounts as shown above, but as the number of deaths grows, the incentive for some parties to withhold numbers also increases. You could fill in the blanks about whom those parties might be, but you're only going to speculate when it suits your agenda.

But where are the bodies? What about the families?

[ChumpDumper]

But where are the bodies? What about the families?The bodies are being stored or buried or burned. The families know about the deaths and are free to talk about them.

[DMC]

The bodies are being stored or buried or burned. The families know about the deaths and are free to talk about them.

If only South Korea knew that was an option.

[ChumpDumper]

If only South Korea knew that was an option.Being as big a failure as the US was an option. They didn't take it.

You have your explanations why ROK is doing better, you're just throwing a tantrum because you don't want to accept them. I don't know why it's so important to you, but there you are.

[vy65]

Dr. Anthony Fauci says Gilead’s remdesivir will set a new ‘standard of care’ for coronavirus treatment

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/29/dr-anthony-fauci-says-data-from-remdesivir-coronavirus-drug-trial-shows-quite-good-news.html

https://media.giphy.com/media/t3ALHwdGhkF3O/giphy.gif

[DMC]

Dr. Anthony Fauci says Gilead’s remdesivir will set a new ‘standard of care’ for coronavirus treatment

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/29/dr-anthony-fauci-says-data-from-remdesivir-coronavirus-drug-trial-shows-quite-good-news.html

https://media.giphy.com/media/t3ALHwdGhkF3O/giphy.gif

From 2016

2. Gilead Sciences
Trump owns shares of drug developer Gilead Sciences (NASDAQ:GILD) in two of his five investment accounts. Per the filing, Trump owns between $100,001 and $250,000 worth of Gilead stock in a Deutsche asset management account and between $250,001 and $500,000 in an account with Oppenheimer.

[Thread]

Dr. Anthony Fauci says Gilead’s remdesivir will set a new ‘standard of care’ for coronavirus treatment

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/29/dr-anthony-fauci-says-data-from-remdesivir-coronavirus-drug-trial-shows-quite-good-news.html

https://media.giphy.com/media/t3ALHwdGhkF3O/giphy.gif

He also swore up & down that HIV would lead to full blown AIDs in only 30% of cases.

[hater]

Dr Facci already said “there will not be a wonder drug for this”

case closed

[picnroll]

No China said it doesn't work.

Who knows what China did but it did say avg duration of symptoms was 14 days which means patient were probably very sick, probably most on ventilators, before medication was begun. Data released so far suggests if this is going to be effective, and how effective, it’s needs to be given earlier when symptoms are not so advanced which makes sense since the drug prevents viral replication and isn’t an anti-inflammatory. I imagine if it’s effective it’ll be as a first line of defense drug, with some anti-inflammatory as second lie. There could also eventual be a better first line drug and ultimately hopefully a vaccine.

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/jimgeraghty/status/1255526346836578322

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/DrDenaGrayson/status/1255497867277500425?s=20

[Splits]

https://twitter.com/jimgeraghty/status/1255526346836578322

Sure would be nice to have those tests instead of the 70% ones

[boutons_deux]

https://twitter.com/jimgeraghty/status/1255526346836578322

good news for SK.

totally irrelevant to America's Trump Pandemic where testing is both flakey and not widely available.

Kushner says everything is cool, he and Trash have beaten the pandemic

[ChumpDumper]

good news for SK.And Maryland for awhile.

[TimDunkem]

About that underreporting - UK just raised their death toll by 4000.

[SpursforSix]

About that underreporting - UK just raised their death toll by 4000.

Dead Brits bad now?

[ChumpDumper]

About that underreporting - UK just raised their death toll by 4000.They acknowledged a few weeks ago they were only reporting hospital deaths and were going to change.

[spurraider21]

About that underreporting - UK just raised their death toll by 4000.
DMC dug up the hidden bodies?

[DMC]

DMC dug up the hidden bodies?

You took no issue with the concept of hidden bodies until I used it. Mums was the word when it was being used as a strawman.

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JustinWolfers/status/1255479750593859584

[spurraider21]

You took no issue with the concept of hidden bodies until I used it. Mums was the word when it was being used as a strawman.
you took this post seriously?

[ElNono]

That Gilead study is sort of a mixed bag... while recovery times are up 30%, mortality was only reduced 3%...

It's obviously positive because it's better than nothing, and could also help alleviate hospital load, but we're probably still seeking a more effective therapeutic treatment...

[DMC]

you took this post seriously?

No, you were lampooning the concept that you didn't lampoon until I said it.

[boutons_deux]

‘A phantom plague’:

Evangelicals who defied social distancing guidelines are dying of coronavirus in frightening numbers


https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/evangelicals-690x460-800x430.jpg

many Christian fundamentalists and evangelicals have been irresponsibly downplaying the dangers of COVID-19 and doing so with deadly results (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bible-belt-us-coronavirus-pandemic-pastors-church-a9481226.html?utm_source=reddit.com): journalist Alex Woodward, in the U.K.-based Independent, reports that

the pandemic has claimed the lives of more than 30 pastors in the Bible Belt.

“Dozens of pastors across the Bible Belt have succumbed to coronavirus after

churches and televangelists played down the pandemic and actively encouraged churchgoers to flout self-distancing guidelines,”

Woodward reports. “As many as 30 church leaders from the nation’s largest African-American Pentecostal denomination have now been confirmed to have died in the outbreak, as members defied public health warnings to avoid large gatherings to prevent transmitting the virus.”

“The virus has had a wildly disproportionate impact among black congregations,

many of which have relied on group worship,”

despite the climbing death toll, many US church leaders throughout the Bible Belt

have not only continued to hold services, but have

urged worshippers to continue paying tithes :lol

— including recent stimulus checks :lol

— to support their mission.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/a-phantom-plague-evangelicals-who-defied-social-distancing-guidelines-are-dying-of-coronavirus-in-frightening-numbers/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4421

[DMC]

That Gilead study is sort of a mixed bag... while recovery times are up 30%, mortality was only reduced 3%...

It's obviously positive because it's better than nothing, and could also help alleviate hospital load, but we're probably still seeking a more effective therapeutic treatment...
But look at Gilead stock price increase and then check to see who sold. Then wait for the next wave of "updates" that "errr... we were mistaken".

[picnroll]

FDA in ‘ongoing’ talks with Gilead to make remdesivir available to coronavirus patients ‘as quickly as possible’

PUBLISHED WED, APR 29 20203:16 PM EDT
The Food and Drug Administration has been in “sustained and ongoing” discussions with Gilead Sciences to make antiviral drug remdesivir available to Covid-19 patients “as quickly as possible, as appropriate,” the agency said Wednesday.

Earlier in the day, White House health advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said data from a coronavirus drug trial testing Gilead’s drug showed “quite good news” and sets a new standard of care for Covid-19 patients.

Speaking to reporters from the White House, Fauci said he was told data from the trial showed a “clear-cut positive effect in diminishing time to recover.”

The New York Times reported that the FDA plans to announce as early as Wednesday an emergency use authorization for remdesivir.

FDA spokesman Michael Felberbaum told CNBC, “As part of the FDA’s commitment to expediting the development and availability of potential COVID-19 treatments, the agency has been engaged in sustained and ongoing discussions with Gilead Sciences regarding making remdesivir available to patients as quickly as possible, as appropriate.”

President Donald Trump has touted Gilead’s remdesivir as a potential treatment for the virus, which has infected more than 3.1 million people worldwide, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. A number of studies are testing the drug to see if it’s effective in stopping the coronavirus from replicating, but it is not yet a proven treatment.

Gilead also released Wednesday preliminary results from its own study, showing at least 50% of the patients treated with a five-day dosage of remdesivir improved. The clinical trial involved 397 patients with severe cases of Covid-19. The severe study is “single-arm,” meaning it did not evaluate the drug against a control group of patients who didn’t receive the drug.

Dr. Anthony Fauci (L), director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases speaks as US President Donald Trump meets with Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards(D-LA) in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, DC on April 29, 2020.
Dr. Anthony Fauci says Gilead’s remdesivir will set new ‘standard of care’ for coronavirus treatment

[DMC]

FDA in ‘ongoing’ talks with Gilead to make remdesivir available to coronavirus patients ‘as quickly as possible’

PUBLISHED WED, APR 29 20203:16 PM EDT
The Food and Drug Administration has been in “sustained and ongoing” discussions with Gilead Sciences to make antiviral drug remdesivir available to Covid-19 patients “as quickly as possible, as appropriate,” the agency said Wednesday.

Earlier in the day, White House health advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said data from a coronavirus drug trial testing Gilead’s drug showed “quite good news” and sets a new standard of care for Covid-19 patients.

Speaking to reporters from the White House, Fauci said he was told data from the trial showed a “clear-cut positive effect in diminishing time to recover.”

The New York Times reported that the FDA plans to announce as early as Wednesday an emergency use authorization for remdesivir.

FDA spokesman Michael Felberbaum told CNBC, “As part of the FDA’s commitment to expediting the development and availability of potential COVID-19 treatments, the agency has been engaged in sustained and ongoing discussions with Gilead Sciences regarding making remdesivir available to patients as quickly as possible, as appropriate.”

President Donald Trump has touted Gilead’s remdesivir as a potential treatment for the virus, which has infected more than 3.1 million people worldwide, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. A number of studies are testing the drug to see if it’s effective in stopping the coronavirus from replicating, but it is not yet a proven treatment.

Gilead also released Wednesday preliminary results from its own study, showing at least 50% of the patients treated with a five-day dosage of remdesivir improved. The clinical trial involved 397 patients with severe cases of Covid-19. The severe study is “single-arm,” meaning it did not evaluate the drug against a control group of patients who didn’t receive the drug.

Dr. Anthony Fauci (L), director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases speaks as US President Donald Trump meets with Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards(D-LA) in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, DC on April 29, 2020.
Dr. Anthony Fauci says Gilead’s remdesivir will set new ‘standard of care’ for coronavirus treatment

Big banks temporarily shut out of small business loan portal, Treasury and SBA announce
In this photo illustration the American biotechnology company Gilead Sciences logo seen displayed on a smartphone with a computer model of the COVID-19 coronavirus on the background.
FDA in talks to make Gilead’s remdesivir available to coronavirus patients ‘as quickly as possible’
An ampule of Ebola drug remdesivir is pictured during a news conference at the University Hospital Eppendorf (UKE) in Hamburg, Germany, April 8, 2020, as the spread of coronavirus disease (COVID-19) continues.
Gilead says early results of coronavirus drug trial show improvement with 5-day remdesivir treatment

Will there be another stimulus check? How lawmakers could get more money into people’s hands

https://i.imgur.com/I8kdTYJ.jpg

[ElNono]

But look at Gilead stock price increase and then check to see who sold. Then wait for the next wave of "updates" that "errr... we were mistaken".

Their stock has been going up for a while, tbh... and look, objectively, there's an improvement with their drug.

Was hoping it would be more effective against severe cases, but we'll keep hoping.

[Reck]

1255468554348105734

:lol jews and their never ending victimhood. I dont even like De faggio but what is he supposed to do here?

[ChumpDumper]

Weird that Hokkaido's reopening is being portrayed as a miserable failure. Their numbers for the population of 5 million during the second wave are better than those of Austin during it's current lockdown.

Assuming that they had weathered the storm - and keen to get the local economy operating again - local authorities lifted the state of emergency on March 19, with schools and businesses reopening.

With hindsight, experts agree, it was too early and, just 26 days later and after 135 new infections were reported in the space of a week, the lockdown was reimposed on Hokkaido’s 5.3 million residents.

Austin is lucky to have 135 new infections in three days. Bill Miller tho.

[Splits]

1255468554348105734

:lol jews and their never ending victimhood. I dont even like De faggio but what is he supposed to do here?

filter twitter with his name, he's been called everything but a white man (did I do that right Dale?)

[vy65]

That Gilead study is sort of a mixed bag... while recovery times are up 30%, mortality was only reduced 3%...

It's obviously positive because it's better than nothing, and could also help alleviate hospital load, but we're probably still seeking a more effective therapeutic treatment...

Is that math right? There was a 3.6% reduction compared to the placebo group (11.6 vs. 8). Isn't that an overall 33% reduction? Or am I completely out of it?

[vy65]

FDA in ‘ongoing’ talks with Gilead to make remdesivir available to coronavirus patients ‘as quickly as possible’

PUBLISHED WED, APR 29 20203:16 PM EDT
The Food and Drug Administration has been in “sustained and ongoing” discussions with Gilead Sciences to make antiviral drug remdesivir available to Covid-19 patients “as quickly as possible, as appropriate,” the agency said Wednesday.

Earlier in the day, White House health advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said data from a coronavirus drug trial testing Gilead’s drug showed “quite good news” and sets a new standard of care for Covid-19 patients.

Speaking to reporters from the White House, Fauci said he was told data from the trial showed a “clear-cut positive effect in diminishing time to recover.”

The New York Times reported that the FDA plans to announce as early as Wednesday an emergency use authorization for remdesivir.

FDA spokesman Michael Felberbaum told CNBC, “As part of the FDA’s commitment to expediting the development and availability of potential COVID-19 treatments, the agency has been engaged in sustained and ongoing discussions with Gilead Sciences regarding making remdesivir available to patients as quickly as possible, as appropriate.”

President Donald Trump has touted Gilead’s remdesivir as a potential treatment for the virus, which has infected more than 3.1 million people worldwide, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. A number of studies are testing the drug to see if it’s effective in stopping the coronavirus from replicating, but it is not yet a proven treatment.

Gilead also released Wednesday preliminary results from its own study, showing at least 50% of the patients treated with a five-day dosage of remdesivir improved. The clinical trial involved 397 patients with severe cases of Covid-19. The severe study is “single-arm,” meaning it did not evaluate the drug against a control group of patients who didn’t receive the drug.

Dr. Anthony Fauci (L), director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases speaks as US President Donald Trump meets with Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards(D-LA) in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, DC on April 29, 2020.
Dr. Anthony Fauci says Gilead’s remdesivir will set new ‘standard of care’ for coronavirus treatment

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[TSA]

https://media.giphy.com/media/t3ALHwdGhkF3O/giphy.gif

:bobo

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1255582643254689792

[vy65]

:bobo

Ready to GILD that lilly, amirite?

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1255483593478025220?s=20

[Spurs Homer]

‘A phantom plague’:

Evangelicals who defied social distancing guidelines are dying of coronavirus in frightening numbers


https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/evangelicals-690x460-800x430.jpg

many Christian fundamentalists and evangelicals have been irresponsibly downplaying the dangers of COVID-19 and doing so with deadly results (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bible-belt-us-coronavirus-pandemic-pastors-church-a9481226.html?utm_source=reddit.com): journalist Alex Woodward, in the U.K.-based Independent, reports that

the pandemic has claimed the lives of more than 30 pastors in the Bible Belt.

“Dozens of pastors across the Bible Belt have succumbed to coronavirus after

churches and televangelists played down the pandemic and actively encouraged churchgoers to flout self-distancing guidelines,”

Woodward reports. “As many as 30 church leaders from the nation’s largest African-American Pentecostal denomination have now been confirmed to have died in the outbreak, as members defied public health warnings to avoid large gatherings to prevent transmitting the virus.”

“The virus has had a wildly disproportionate impact among black congregations,

many of which have relied on group worship,”

despite the climbing death toll, many US church leaders throughout the Bible Belt

have not only continued to hold services, but have

urged worshippers to continue paying tithes :lol

— including recent stimulus checks :lol

— to support their mission.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/a-phantom-plague-evangelicals-who-defied-social-distancing-guidelines-are-dying-of-coronavirus-in-frightening-numbers/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4421










but-but

i thought they were “bathed in jesus blood!” Ferchrissakes!

[boutons_deux]

Florida is now blocking medical examiners from releasing COVID-19 death totals

Florida’s state health department intervened earlier this month to suppress the medical examiners’ reports, which regularly showed

death totals that were 10 percent higher than the official tallies put out by the state.

For the past nine days, no reports from the medical examiners have been made available to the public, and

there’s no indication of when they will be released in the future.

they’re planning to remove probable causes of death from the examiners’ report, :lol

which would make it impossible to tell how many people the examiners believe have died from coronavirus.

the Florida state government has shown a pattern of suppressing information about the disease.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/florida-is-now-blocking-medical-examiners-from-releasing-covid-19-death-totals/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4421 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/florida-is-now-blocking-medical-examiners-from-releasing-covid-19-death-totals/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4421)

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1255483593478025220?s=20What do the articles say?

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1255483593478025220?s=20

Oped free speech bad now

[DarrinS]

That Gilead study is sort of a mixed bag... while recovery times are up 30%, mortality was only reduced 3%...

It's obviously positive because it's better than nothing, and could also help alleviate hospital load, but we're probably still seeking a more effective therapeutic treatment...


Fauci seems pretty excited about it


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWyC4Q4l49g

[TimDunkem]

Fauci seems pretty excited about it


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWyC4Q4l49g

He literally just said that it shows we can fight it. No miracles here though. Just opens up an avenue to explore for treatments.

[DarrinS]

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/why-don-t-some-coronavirus-patients-sense-their-alarmingly-low-oxygen-levels#

[hater]

goddam 60,000 souls lost

already surpassed Faccis revised estimate

Facci sounds like he turned into a cheerleader bullshiting anything his boss tells him

that poor sob is broken

[boutons_deux]

remdesivir reduces the death rate down from 11% to 8%,

hospital discharge from 15 days to 11 days.

how much will it cost? $1000s ?> $10,000s ?

when will it be available?

How advanced must your symptoms be to qualify? I guess BigInsurance will decide.

[picnroll]

remdesivir reduces the death rate down from 11% to 8%,

hospital discharge from 15 days to 11 days.

how much will it cost? $1000s ?> $10,000s ?

when will it be available?

How advanced must your symptoms be to qualify? I guess BigInsurance will decide.
I’m sure it won’t be cheap but then neither are three extra days in the ICU.

[weebo]

remdesivir reduces the death rate down from 11% to 8%,

hospital discharge from 15 days to 11 days.

how much will it cost? $1000s ?> $10,000s ?

when will it be available?

How advanced must your symptoms be to qualify? I guess BigInsurance will decide.

Clinical evidence. No longer just anecdotal. Remdesivir has shown some efficacy (although it many not seem like much) and from this point going forward science medicine can build off this new therapy.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/matty00021/status/1255620713094041604?s=20

[vy65]

Life won't return to normal until people are no longer afraid to be in close proximity to one another. Social distancing won't do that. You need medicine - whether a proven treatment like remdesivir or a vaccine. Hopefully, we'll look back on today as the first day we turned the corner and progressed back toward normalcy.

[boutons_deux]

Life won't return to normal until people are no longer afraid to be in close proximity to one another. Social distancing won't do that. You need medicine - whether a proven treatment like remdesivir or a vaccine. Hopefully, we'll look back on today as the first day we turned the corner and progressed back toward normalcy.

yep, even if remdesivir is a treatment for severely ill victims, who wants to risk getting that sick to get treated?

UK and Switzerland say they should have vaccines to test 5 or 6 months. China is working on vaccines also.

[vy65]

yep, even if remdesivir is a treatment for severely ill victims, who wants to risk getting that sick to get treated?

UK and Switzerland say they should have vaccines to test 5 or 6 months. China is working on vaccines also.

Agreed. As a purely psychological matter, while no one wants to get sick, people will still pack bars + theatres + stadiums knowing that there's some sort of medicinal therapy.

While I read the same NYT article you allude to, I've heard that those timetables are excessively optimistic. Full disclosure: this is third-hand hearsay, but some of the doctors here in the TMC have said that you should expect a vaccine in 36-60 months, which would be an accelerated timetable from the average span of 10 years it takes to develop a vaccine for viruses (they credited the fact that everyone is working together to develop a vaccine). Having a proven cocktail of drugs is going to be key in tiding us over until we develop vaccines.

[boutons_deux]

As states prepare to reopen, those that never really shut down are already seeing a spike in cases (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/28/1941079/-As-states-prepare-to-reopen-those-that-never-really-shut-down-are-already-seeing-a-spike-in-cases)

Cases in Nebraska have doubled in a week, and it’s not the only state showing this kind of spike.

Iowa has a similar problem. barely conducted any testing before mid-March, and when those tests were 10%-20% positive, Republican Gov. Kim Reynolds apparently took this as permission to continue snoozing.

This resulted in darkly amusing situations like the one on March 26 where Iowa conducted just 34 tests. All positive. This is not exactly the best indicator that everything is under control.

Iowa isn’t testing at a rate sufficient to describe the outbreak that already exists, much less get ahead of it and halt it short of disaster.

Arizona has tested at barely half the national average. , Republican Gov. Doug Ducey did order a fairly comprehensive shutdown—which expires on April 30. Which means that Arizona is about to get an answer to whether it has tested sufficiently to support relaxing those guidelines. (It hasn’t.)

, there is a state under a Democratic governor that’s testing at a genuinely shocking rate. Under Gov. Jay Inslee, Washington state conducted only 37 tests on Monday and fewer than 700 over the last three days.

But then, the rate of positives on those tests was 0%. the state has uncovered 1,100 new cases while carrying out 21,000 new tests, and that 5% positive rate is still way too high.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/28/1941079/-As-states-prepare-to-reopen-those-that-never-really-shut-down-are-already-seeing-a-spike-in-cases?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/28/1941079/-As-states-prepare-to-reopen-those-that-never-really-shut-down-are-already-seeing-a-spike-in-cases?detail=emaildkre)

[Trill Clinton]

1255588343318011904

[picnroll]

For anyone interested the final version on the China study of Remdesivir, original deemed to not show efficacy, was released in Lancet, a medical journal.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31022-9/fulltext

[ChumpDumper]

Nice UK article about models for some reopening scenarios.

I'd be happy to see any models that don't predict 12,000 deaths for Texas tbh. Please post them.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8265799/Simulator-projects-Georgia-23-000-deaths.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/04/29/00/27757550-8265799-In_Texas_the_model_predicts_deaths_could_reach_12_ 800_by_August_-a-201_1588115118982.jpg

[DarrinS]

Nice UK article about models for some reopening scenarios.

I'd be happy to see any models that don't predict 12,000 deaths for Texas tbh. Please post them.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8265799/Simulator-projects-Georgia-23-000-deaths.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/04/29/00/27757550-8265799-In_Texas_the_model_predicts_deaths_could_reach_12_ 800_by_August_-a-201_1588115118982.jpg



Lets test the model

[ChumpDumper]

Let's test the modelYou don't have any others?

Nothing from the governor?

Bill Miler BBQ?

[slick'81]

https://twitter.com/matty00021/status/1255620713094041604?s=20


:lol Those arent even real nurses

[DarrinS]

You don't have any others?

Nothing from the governor?

Bill Miler BBQ?



Are you still safe at Wendy's drive thru, Karen?

I'm assuming you're in a good situation, since you're able to screech here 24/7.

Ever think about people that don't have it as good as you?

[ChumpDumper]

Are you still safe at Wendy's drive thru, Karen?

I'm assuming you're in a good situation, since you're able to screech here 24/7.

Ever think about people that don't have it as good as you?Put a tampon in it and answer the question.

Do you have any models that don't project 17x the deaths we currently have?

Yes or no.

[TDMVPDPOY]

down here cases are from ships and some turd overseas coming back transmitted to someone who is a essential worker came into contact, who then works in age/health care facility and spreading it to the elderly cause they cant afford to stay at home due to be being bread winner of household....

then u have clowns who wont show symptoms but will after 2weeks, but been spreading it when they shown no symptoms...

down here 14 nurses from same hospital had to stay at home causey did emergency surgery on someone who showed no signs, only later to show signs, and those 14 nurses ended up getting the covit...

[SnakeBoy]

Are you still safe at Wendy's drive thru, Karen?

I'm assuming you're in a good situation, since you're able to screech here 24/7.

Ever think about people that don't have it as good as you?

He's got it tough. He's got "immunocompromised people here". That's why he only risks going out for the essentials like hamburgers.

[DarrinS]

Put a tampon in it and answer the question.

Do you have any models that don't project 17x the deaths we currently have?

Yes or no.


We can compare the model you posted to reality and judge it then.

You are the one who posted a model. Let's see how accurate it is.

[ChumpDumper]

He's got it tough. He's got "immunocompromised people here". That's why he only risks going out for the essentials like hamburgers.Sorry Trump is a failure.

Do you have any models to post?

Yes or no.

We can compare the model you posted to reality and judge it then.

You are the one who posted a model. Let's see how accurate it is.Sorry Trump is a failure.

Do you have any models to post?

Yes or no.

[ChumpDumper]

It's maybe necessarily simplistic, but you can pull up some grim fucking scenarios.

https://www.covid19sim.org/

I just want to know the Greg Abbott/Bill Miller model. Is that asking too much?

[DarrinS]

Sorry Trump is a failure.

Do you have any models to post?

Yes or no.
Sorry Trump is a failure.

Do you have any models to post?

Yes or no.

^

Lol, Karen is melting down

[slick'81]

It's maybe necessarily simplistic, but you can pull up some grim fucking scenarios.

https://www.covid19sim.org/

I just want to know the Greg Abbott/Bill Miller model. Is that asking too much?

there is no model chump. Its wait and see and hope for the best,Literally

[DarrinS]

By the way, I don't fear this virus anymore.

There are certain groups of people that should take extra precaution tho.

[slick'81]

By the way, I don't fear this virus anymore.

There are certain groups of people that should take extra precaution tho.


Atta boy D!

[ChumpDumper]

^

Lol, Karen is melting downI just asked you a question, Darrin?

I want things to go back to normal as much as anyone.

I would be hesitant if it meant 17x more dead Texans.

You seem fine with the prospect though. Why?

[ChumpDumper]

By the way, I don't fear this virus anymore.

There are certain groups of people that should take extra precaution tho.Yeah, you have your action plan.

Good for you.

How many more dead Texans is a good number for you?

12,000 is more than I wanted tbh. Is that difficult for you to say?

[Blake]

I just want to know the Greg Abbott/Bill Miller model. Is that asking too much?

https://www.modelroundup.com/v/vspfiles/photos/MPC-6338-2.jpg?v-cache=1461764109

[hater]

down here cases are from ships and some turd overseas coming back transmitted to someone who is a essential worker came into contact, who then works in age/health care facility and spreading it to the elderly cause they cant afford to stay at home due to be being bread winner of household....

then u have clowns who wont show symptoms but will after 2weeks, but been spreading it when they shown no symptoms...

down here 14 nurses from same hospital had to stay at home causey did emergency surgery on someone who showed no signs, only later to show signs, and those 14 nurses ended up getting the covit...

why u complaining niga? Australia is getting a triple double vs Covid while USA is trotting out Bryn Forbes and Marco Bellineli
vs Corona and getting smashed by 40

[DarrinS]

Yeah, you have your action plan.

Good for you.

How many more dead Texans is a good number for you?

12,000 is more than I wanted tbh. Is that difficult for you to say?



Can't build that herd with pussies like you.

[ChumpDumper]

Can't build that herd with pussies like you.How many of the herd would you be OK with dying, tough guy?

Just post a number.

Show us how tough you are with other people's lives.

[DarrinS]

why u complaining niga? Australia is getting a triple double vs Covid while USA is trotting out Bryn Forbes and Marco Bellineli
vs Corona and getting smashed by 40

Ok, sometimes your shit is funny. :lol

[Blake]

Can't build that herd with pussies like you.

Do you not get how herd immunity works

[DarrinS]

How many of the herd would you be OK with dying, tough guy?

Just post a number.

Show us how tough you are with other people's lives.


Just stay inside in the fetal position. Other Texans will do the job.

[DarrinS]

Do you not get how herd immunity works

I do. It's the only path forward. You'll be ok blake.

[ChumpDumper]

Just stay inside in the fetal position. Other Texans will do the job.How many Texan deaths are good for you, Darrin?

Please post an actual number since you aren't afraid. You aren't afraid of COVID-19, you certainly can't be afraid of a question about it.

[Blake]

I do. It's the only path forward. You'll be ok blake.

There are two paths towards herd immunity. Which path are you referring to?

[DarrinS]

There are two paths towards herd immunity. Which path are you referring to?

We're all going to get this eventually, but we're just trying to slow it down. Here in TX, we probably don't need hard lockdown to keep that manageable.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/NYCMayor/status/1255309615883063297?s=19

TheGreatYacht I found your captain :lol

[Blake]

We're all going to get this eventually, but we're just trying to slow it down. Here in TX, we probably don't need hard lockdown to keep that manageable.

Abbott is trying to speed it up though

[slick'81]

We're all going to get this eventually, but we're just trying to slow it down. Here in TX, we probably don't need hard lockdown to keep that manageable.


Have to agree with you d,but for people with kids and immunocompromised loved ones it isnt that simple

[Blake]

Have to agree with you d,but for people with kids and immunocompromised loved ones it isnt that simple

I mean that's the thing that people still don't get for some reason.

[ChumpDumper]

I mean that's the thing that people still don't get for some reason.They just gotta be tough. That'll work.

[DarrinS]

Have to agree with you d,but for people with kids and immunocompromised loved ones it isnt that simple


I have family members at risk, too.

What do you think will come first, a vaccine, or herd immunity?

[slick'81]

I have family members at risk, too.

What do you think will come first, a vaccine, or herd immunity?


What choice do we have d? Gotta roll with the punches and hope for a little luck

[ChumpDumper]

What choice do we have d?The choice is how many people should die and how quickly they should die in the meantime.

Apparently the sky is the limit for both as far as Darrin is concerned.

[Blake]

I have family members at risk, too.

What do you think will come first, a vaccine, or herd immunity?

I think we should just Logan's Run all the old people and get back to work. The herd immunity will just naturally run it's course through the youngsters while they watch Wonder Woman 84 at the theaters.

[ChumpDumper]

I think we should just Logan's Run all the old people and get back to work. The herd immunity will just naturally run it's course through the youngsters while they watch Wonder Woman 84 at the theaters.Missed plandemic opportunity with Trolls World Tour.

[DarrinS]

I think we should just Logan's Run all the old people and get back to work. The herd immunity will just naturally run it's course through the youngsters while they watch Wonder Woman 84 at the theaters.


Do you not understand how herd immunity stops the transmission chain?

[DarrinS]

The choice is how many people should die and how quickly they should die in the meantime.

Apparently the sky is the limit for both as far as Darrin is concerned.


You just want to slap fight on the internet all day. I'll pass.

[ChumpDumper]

You just want to slap fight on the internet all day. I'll pass.I asked you one question, Darrin. Turns out you're not as tough as you claimed.

All bluster.

[Blake]

Do you not understand how herd immunity stops the transmission chain?

I get the absolute need for herd immunity. I still think you don't quite understand how it works.

[ChumpDumper]

I get the absolute need for herd immunity. I still think you don't quite understand how it works.1) I get to eat at Bill Miller.

2) Other people die in numbers and at rates for which I do not give a shit.

3) Immunity!

[hater]

I have family members at risk, too.

What do you think will come first, a vaccine, or herd immunity?

sorry have more bad news on herd immunity front

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/04/antibody-tests-herd-immunity/610762/

The immunity tests were supposed to be a “game changer,” but they are instead revealing that the majority of Americans are still vulnerable to COVID-19 infection.

But if the first results from antibody surveys, also known as “serosurveys,” in the U.S. are anything to judge by, simply not enough people are immune. Too many Americans are still vulnerable to COVID-19 infection for these tests to be the “game changer” that many were hoping for.

In New York City, the country’s COVID-19 epicenter, 24.7 percent of people tested positive for antibodies. (The statewide number is 14.9 percent.) These rates do translate to many times more cases than officially documented, to be clear, but they are still a far cry from the 70 percent scientists believe is necessary to reach herd immunity and stop disease transmission. And if only a small fraction of the population can return to work without fear of getting the coronavirus, a return to something resembling normal is still a long way off.

Scientists don’t know exactly how long immunity to COVID-19 will last and what level of antibodies confers immunity. “There are just unknowns for an individual,” Gigi Gronvall, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security and a co-author of a recent report on antibody testing, told me. “The ‘get out of jail free’ card we’re hoping for, it’s just not how it should be sold,” she said.

[slick'81]

sorry have more bad news on herd immunity front

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/04/antibody-tests-herd-immunity/610762/

The immunity tests were supposed to be a “game changer,” but they are instead revealing that the majority of Americans are still vulnerable to COVID-19 infection.

But if the first results from antibody surveys, also known as “serosurveys,” in the U.S. are anything to judge by, simply not enough people are immune. Too many Americans are still vulnerable to COVID-19 infection for these tests to be the “game changer” that many were hoping for.

In New York City, the country’s COVID-19 epicenter, 24.7 percent of people tested positive for antibodies. (The statewide number is 14.9 percent.) These rates do translate to many times more cases than officially documented, to be clear, but they are still a far cry from the 70 percent scientists believe is necessary to reach herd immunity and stop disease transmission. And if only a small fraction of the population can return to work without fear of getting the coronavirus, a return to something resembling normal is still a long way off.

Scientists don’t know exactly how long immunity to COVID-19 will last and what level of antibodies confers immunity. “There are just unknowns for an individual,” Gigi Gronvall, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security and a co-author of a recent report on antibody testing, told me. “The ‘get out of jail free’ card we’re hoping for, it’s just not how it should be sold,” she said.


Well see how Stockholm does. They claim to have achieved herd immunity by end of may

[baseline bum]

You just want to slap fight on the internet all day. I'll pass.

Tbh, WTF else is there to do right now? :lol

[DarrinS]

Tbh, WTF else is there to do right now? :lol

I suppose. :lol

[slick'81]

Tbh, WTF else is there to do right now? :lol


Banging the mrs,smoking out and playing video games,duh

[hater]

another dummies guide to herd immunity (helped me)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sciencealert.com/why-herd-immunity-will-not-save-us-from-the-covid-19-pandemic/amp

herd immunity without a vaccine is basically worst case scenario.

say 70% of population needs to be infected and say with a deathrate of .5%

that would make it likely that we lose 1 million ppl in the process

and thats not taking into account ppl that would die of other related causes like lack of medical care

and also not taking into account that Covid immunity might not even last enough to achieve natural herd immunity

[slick'81]

another dummies guide to herd immunity (helped me)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sciencealert.com/why-herd-immunity-will-not-save-us-from-the-covid-19-pandemic/amp

herd immunity without a vaccine is basically worst case scenario.

say 70% of population needs to be infected and say with a deathrate of .5%

that would make it likely that we lose 1 million ppl in the process

and thats not taking into account ppl that would die of other related causes like lack of medical care

and also not taking into account that Covid immunity might not even last enough to achieve natural herd immunity


Bbb but muh sweeden

[hater]

Well see how Stockholm does. They claim to have achieved herd immunity by end of may

thats complete bullshit. they are not even doing immunity tests.

the examples of immunity tests in NYC and the “german wuhan” would show that most likely sweden is not even close to herd immunity.

[baseline bum]

Banging the mrs,smoking out and playing video games,duh

Yeah shit's so boring right now I'm doing a second playthrough of Persona 5 Royal, this time in Japanese. It's like a 170 hour game and came out March 31st. :lol

[baseline bum]

another dummies guide to herd immunity (helped me)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sciencealert.com/why-herd-immunity-will-not-save-us-from-the-covid-19-pandemic/amp

herd immunity without a vaccine is basically worst case scenario.

say 70% of population needs to be infected and say with a deathrate of .5%

that would make it likely that we lose 1 million ppl in the process

and thats not taking into account ppl that would die of other related causes like lack of medical care

and also not taking into account that Covid immunity might not even last enough to achieve natural herd immunity

OK now tell me the bad news.

[hater]

trying herd immunity without a vaccine is basically like looking at your house burning ans saying “im just gonna let it burn till it naturally stops burning”

[Blake]

1) I get to eat at Bill Miller.

2) Other people die in numbers and at rates for which I do not give a shit.

3) Immunity!

I mean, young kids can do the Walmart greeter job just the same any way if gramps body can't handle the covid

[hater]

Banging the mrs,smoking out and playing video games,duh

ma niga same here :tu

[baseline bum]

trying herd immunity without a vaccine is basically like looking at your house burning ans saying “im just gonna let it burn till it naturally stops burning the rest of the neighborhood down”

fify

[hater]

Yeah shit's so boring right now I'm doing a second playthrough of Persona 5 Royal, this time in Japanese. It's like a 170 hour game and came out March 31st. :lol

shogun 2 total war is free right now tbqh

[baseline bum]

ma niga same here :tu

I'm just jerking off and eating chocolate tbh

[slick'81]

I'm just jerking off and eating chocolate tbh


Come on base! You gotta have someone to bend over in your life

[hater]

one more article on sweden. they basically are winging it :lol

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/sweden-coronavirus-response-death-social-distancing.amp?__twitter_impression=true

their top scientists basically say shit like “Ive got a gut feeling” in their press briefings


where have I heard that before? :lol

lets not forget this is the same country that let Hitlers army pass through from and to norway :lol

[DarrinS]

trying herd immunity without a vaccine is basically like looking at your house burning ans saying “im just gonna let it burn till it naturally stops burning”

Lol, no.

But, waiting to treat covid-19 patients until they are hypoxic is like that.

[baseline bum]

Come on base! You gotta have someone to bend over in your life

It sounded like a good idea when Louie was talking about it tbh


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLfKlZUtzSo

Will have to try the opiate suppositories next.

[baseline bum]

shogun 2 total war is free right now tbqh

Dude I got so many fucking games I haven't played yet. I could never buy another game for like ten years and still not run out of shit that I own and still really want to play. :lol

[slick'81]

Dude I got so many fucking games I haven't played yet. I could never buy another game for like ten years and still not run out of shit that I own and still really want to play. :lol


Yup,i buy new games without even finishing the old ones. Quite sad

[ElNono]

Is that math right? There was a 3.6% reduction compared to the placebo group (11.6 vs. 8). Isn't that an overall 33% reduction? Or am I completely out of it?

You said it, 3.6%... 11.6% and 8% are already overall percentages over the sample groups.

[ElNono]

Fauci seems pretty excited about it


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWyC4Q4l49g

Well of course, it's a positive development.

[ElNono]

Life won't return to normal until people are no longer afraid to be in close proximity to one another. Social distancing won't do that. You need medicine - whether a proven treatment like remdesivir or a vaccine. Hopefully, we'll look back on today as the first day we turned the corner and progressed back toward normalcy.

Unless you're one of the ST incels, tbh...

[Blake]

another dummies guide to herd immunity (helped me)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sciencealert.com/why-herd-immunity-will-not-save-us-from-the-covid-19-pandemic/amp

herd immunity without a vaccine is basically worst case scenario.

say 70% of population needs to be infected and say with a deathrate of .5%

that would make it likely that we lose 1 million ppl in the process

and thats not taking into account ppl that would die of other related causes like lack of medical care

and also not taking into account that Covid immunity might not even last enough to achieve natural herd immunity

Pretty much. The hospitals would be overrun.

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/NYCMayor/status/1255309615883063297?s=19

TheGreatYacht I found your captain :lol

:lol look at this dude acting all tough now

[midnightpulp]

Going for herd immunity is goddamn stupid. New York is probably the best sample of infection we have in the world, especially as their demographic relates to the overall US demographic, so we can logically extrapolate NY to the rest of the country. New York did an antibody test across the state that revealed 14.9% prevalence. However, this was not a random sample and relied on volunteers exiting grocery stores, meaning self-selection (i.e. people who think they might've had it would be more likely to volunteer). That said, New York state obviously has a high infection rate. 300K confirmed. I think a fair estimate is that there's probably 10x that amount of actual cases, or 3 million across the state.

So currently we can estimate they have 3 million infected with 23400 deaths. Word is you need 60 percent of the population infected to reach herd immunity. That translates into 12 million infected and nearly 100K deaths, just in New York. The per capita rate is 4000 deaths for every million. So, if we went for herd immunity across the entire country, we're looking at 180 some million infections and around 800K deaths and millions of hospitalizations and people suffering at home (many "mild" cases aren't some head cold. Week long fevers, terrible chest congestion, severe body aches, chronic dry cough). That situation would crash the economy much more than a lockdown ever would.

Now it could be argued that the New York (and East Coast situation) might not happen in other regions, especially the sunnier areas in the country, even if you let the virus run its course. There's some studies showing that Vitamin D deficiency leads to more severe cases. And perhaps the R0 in these less densely populated sunnier regions is considerably slower than it is New York (New York experiences about 7.5x the amount of flu infections every season vs. CA, TX), that it would take a few years to infect 60 percent of the population, which would spread those deaths out over those few years. But then you'll have a situation where you're battling flu/covid seasons for multiple years. And we still don't know how long prior infections are immune for.

Accelerating herd immunity is a dangerous strategy. Carl Bergstrom has said that infections just won't magically stop at 60 percent prevalence and you'll overshoot that number by a good margin, which means herd immunity will probably cost over 1 million lives.

The solution really is to just to mitigate death through social distancing, test and trace, good hygiene, mask wearing, and getting yourself in better health (obesity, beetus, big factors here) until a vaccine and antivirals are developed. Or maybe the virus mutates into a less severe strain, which many viruses tend to do. For the economy, we'll probably just have to oscillate between openings and closures as the situation demands it.

[midnightpulp]

New model. Carl Bergstrom likes this one the best and the creator has gone back to prior dates and illustrated his model has been pretty on predicting deaths. https://covid19-projections.com/

Median projection is 166K by August. You can scroll down and see the probabilities per number. He gives it a 50% chance of 150K by August 1. My instinct tells me we'll be around the 125K (71% chance), because I think the NY/NJ situations will die down (as they are, per their daily infection rate) and Summer will slow transmission.

[ElNono]

New model. Carl Bergstrom likes this one the best and the creator has gone back to prior dates and illustrated his model has been pretty on predicting deaths. https://covid19-projections.com/

Median projection is 166K by August. You can scroll down and see the probabilities per number. He gives it a 50% chance of 150K by August 1. My instinct tells me we'll be around the 125K (71% chance), because I think the NY/NJ situations will die down (as they are, per their daily infection rate) and Summer will slow transmission.

tbh, wonder if we're going to hit 100,000 on 4th of July...

[ChumpDumper]

New model. Carl Bergstrom likes this one the best and the creator has gone back to prior dates and illustrated his model has been pretty on predicting deaths. https://covid19-projections.com/

Median projection is 166K by August. You can scroll down and see the probabilities per number. He gives it a 50% chance of 150K by August 1. My instinct tells me we'll be around the 125K (71% chance), because I think the NY/NJ situations will die down (as they are, per their daily infection rate) and Summer will slow transmission.Jesus what a nightmare.

[TimDunkem]

New model. Carl Bergstrom likes this one the best and the creator has gone back to prior dates and illustrated his model has been pretty on predicting deaths. https://covid19-projections.com/

Median projection is 166K by August. You can scroll down and see the probabilities per number. He gives it a 50% chance of 150K by August 1. My instinct tells me we'll be around the 125K (71% chance), because I think the NY/NJ situations will die down (as they are, per their daily infection rate) and Summer will slow transmission.

You mean we won't magically hit 74k and flatline until August like the WH model says? :lol

[boutons_deux]

Jesus what a nightmare.

Trash's "defense" is scapegoating China (they lied) and WHO (defunded). I expect that defense to be major thrust for his campaign.

He certainly can't run on jobs or the economy or simplistically on the stock market.

meaning of course "total authority/no responsibility" Trash is totally innocent, was screwed up, lied to by foreigners, pandering to his racist/xenophobic White/Christian Nationalists cult mob

[Splits]

New model. Carl Bergstrom likes this one the best and the creator has gone back to prior dates and illustrated his model has been pretty on predicting deaths. https://covid19-projections.com/



This model is about the best, most realistic, I've seen based on the current situation, which assumes we will continue on the downward curve like Italy & Spain. A couple of outbreaks in cities like Atlanta or Miami could throw it into chaos.



Median projection is 166K by August. You can scroll down and see the probabilities per number. He gives it a 50% chance of 150K by August 1. My instinct tells me we'll be around the 125K (71% chance), because I think the NY/NJ situations will die down (as they are, per their daily infection rate) and Summer will slow transmission.

I agree with the model on the 125k by mid-June but think we'll be slightly above the 166k by August, probably closer to 175k.

This assumes the current situation isn't upended by unforeseen outbreaks due to re-opening of course.

[boutons_deux]

more (unending) evidence that conservatives value Capital over human life.

If you aren't producing for Capital income, and esp if you are net consumer of wealth (retired, social safety net, etc) you worse the worthless.

Evidence from one of y'all's favorite psychopaths

Ben Shapiro Suggests Older People Dying Of COVID-19 Is ‘Tragic,’ But Also Not So Bad

an 81-year-old dying of the coronavirus “is not the same thing”

as a younger person dying from it.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ben-shapiro-coronavirus-death-panel_n_5ea9f706c5b6dac085f52a6f?ncid=newsltushpmg news

... BS is stating the overwhelming truth that Capitalism places no value on human or any other life or the environment

[picnroll]

:lol look at this dude acting all tough now

Should be interesting, de Blasio takes action to prevent Hassidics from gathering, Barr steps in and takes deBlasio to court forcing Jew’s right to assembly, NYC death count goes screaming back up.

[RandomGuy]

Dude I got so many fucking games I haven't played yet. I could never buy another game for like ten years and still not run out of shit that I own and still really want to play. :lol

Everybody has to have a life goal. :D

[midnightpulp]

1255179980893564935

Jesus.

- During World War II, we taxed the rich at 96 percent on earnings over 200K to help fund the war effort.
- Today, we give the rich 500 billion to "help" the war effort.

:lol, Yeah without that preserving jobs stipulation, it's really going to "trickle down." I expect this cash to be used mostly for stock buybacks in a last ditch effort to save some of the quarterly report.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/95777884_866111977227177_7205013329318772736_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=km3b34eYfgcAX_PkrP8&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=8cb75dd5f851bc72067d944b1d6c2b4f&oe=5ED194C2

[picnroll]

1255179980893564935

Jesus.

- During World War II, we taxed the rich at 96 percent on earnings over 200K to help fund the war effort.
- Today, we give the rich 500 billion to "help" the war effort.

:lol, Yeah without that preserving jobs stipulation, it's really going to "trickle down." I expect this cash to be used mostly for stock buybacks in a last ditch effort to save some of the quarterly report.

Trash gotta get them PAC contributions.

[picnroll]

The Oxford lab leading the race for a coronavirus vaccine says it hopes to get an idea of whether it works on humans in mid-June

https://www.businessinsider.com/oxford-vaccine-human-trial-early-results-mid-june-jenner-institute-2020-4

[hater]

Presently, there is no scientifically proven basis for governments to suggest that having acquired antibodies to the SARS-CoV-2 virus guarantees immunity to reinfection, nor should it serve as a basis for an “immunity passport.” This was stated most clearly by the World Health Organization last Friday, “There is currently no evidence that people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second infection.”

[hater]

last Thursday by New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, who claimed that about one in five people in New York City and nearly 14 percent of the population of his state may have antibodies to the coronavirus.

However, given the reported specificity of their antibody test, Dr. Anisha Jha of Harvard’s Global Health Institute pointed out on Twitter that the real rate of infections in New York could be as low as seven percent, and possibly half of those testing positive may actually be designated as “false positives” and not really carrying protective antibodies, and therefore are susceptible to contracting and possibly dying from the disease.

[hater]

However, reports of early reinfections in Japan, as well as concerns over dozens of individuals in South Korea who tested positive after a documented COVID-19 infection, have health authorities and scientists perplexed. According to the spokesman for the South Korean health and welfare minister, Son Young-rae, these positive results occurred between two days and two weeks after patients were released from quarantine. Some had developed fevers and respiratory symptoms as well. They were placed back into isolation. Data from China on patients discharged from a Wuhan hospital corroborates these unusual developments, with approximately 5-10 percent of patients who had been pronounced “recovered” have tested positive for the virus again.

[hater]

The coordinated attack on science, dismantling the rigors and principles of the scientific process, is not a new phenomenon but has taken on a dangerously absurd turn when, in the name of science, the ruling elites attempt to support the unconfirmed hypothesis that it is safe to return to work based on screening tests for antibodies that may produce high rates of “false positives.” These endeavors are intended to force a Rubicon, committing the working class to endure the diktats of the markets, to making the coronavirus endemic in society, never mind the staggering potential loss in human life that such measures may cause.

https://www.wsws.org/

[picnroll]

However, reports of early reinfections in Japan, as well as concerns over dozens of individuals in South Korea who tested positive after a documented COVID-19 infection, have health authorities and scientists perplexed. According to the spokesman for the South Korean health and welfare minister, Son Young-rae, these positive results occurred between two days and two weeks after patients were released from quarantine. Some had developed fevers and respiratory symptoms as well. They were placed back into isolation. Data from China on patients discharged from a Wuhan hospital corroborates these unusual developments, with approximately 5-10 percent of patients who had been pronounced “recovered” have tested positive for the virus again.

I understand you’re rooting for COVID but evidence to date suggests that recurrent positive tests are secondary to COVID antigens not viable virus and culture positive results haven’t been found. Given the scope of antibody testing going on now risk of reinfection will be evident VERY SOON.

[baseline bum]

1255179980893564935

Jesus.

- During World War II, we taxed the rich at 96 percent on earnings over 200K to help fund the war effort.
- Today, we give the rich 500 billion to "help" the war effort.

:lol, Yeah without that preserving jobs stipulation, it's really going to "trickle down." I expect this cash to be used mostly for stock buybacks in a last ditch effort to save some of the quarterly report.

During WWII we had the greatest president the nation has ever had. Now we have the shittiest most corrupt one.

[ducks]

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/95223902_4300050153354002_1834457811468156928_o.jp g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQkMOrkd-9Igdxa2x9LD7_ewn2MUWyucXsOjM--Tkqe-qnjS_5Ya5JjDuCXdT7qjCDY&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&_nc_tp=14&oh=8ae95e98f2b86f1bb58dbeb420b53362&oe=5ECECACA

[hater]

I understand you’re rooting for COVID but evidence to date suggests that recurrent positive tests are secondary to COVID antigens not viable virus and culture positive results haven’t been found. Given the scope of antibody testing going on now risk of reinfection will be evident VERY SOON.

Im rooting to save lives

I understand you are rooting for anecdotal science to pretend this is not a problem anymore

[picnroll]

Im rooting to save lives

I understand you are rooting for anecdotal science to pretend this is not a problem anymore
Always anxious to learn. Please linked me to the study showing those which tested positive developed antibodies then tested positive again with viable, intact, infectious virions. So who is relying on anecdotal science and who on conjecture and wishful thinking?

... and btw the Remdesivir study showed a very impressive p value substantiating claims it offered therapeutic efficacy. Even the China study was trending toward the same results, just lack sufficient enrolled patients

[TheGreatYacht]

https://twitter.com/NYCMayor/status/1255309615883063297?s=19

TheGreatYacht I found your captain :lol

Niiiiiice :lol

[hater]

Always action to learn. Please linked me to the study showing those which tested positive developed antibodies then tested positive again with viable, intact, infectious virions. So who is relying on anecdotal science and who on conjecture and wishful thinking?

... and btw the Remdesivir study showed a very impressive p value substantiating claims it offered therapeutic efficacy. Even the China study was trending toward the same results, just lack sufficient enrolled patients

china and south korea already disclosed this in real life scenarios.

could they both be wrong? doubtful

could it be that we dont know for a fact that humans develop immunity to Covid as we do with oter viruses? absolutely we dont know for a fact

could it be a stupid idea to tell public the lie that we scientifically know we have immunity therefore we should all go out to the streets? yes absolutely a stupid idea

[picnroll]

china and south korea already disclosed this in real life scenarios.

could they both be wrong? doubtful

could it be that we dont know for a fact that humans develop immunity to Covid as we do with oter viruses? absolutely we dont know for a fact

could it be a stupid idea to tell public the lie that we scientifically know we have immunity therefore we should all go out to the streets? yes absolutely a stupid idea
I didn’t say there is proof humans did develop immunity. I did say we should know soon. I did say there is NO PROOF that once antibodies are detected that intact, viable infective virions are presented. Please point me to the Chinese or Korean studies that have proven they are. Always willing to learn.

... and by the way I linked to a multi-site study a couple of days showing there were three antibody test with very few FPs or FNs.

[hater]

I didn’t say there is proof humans did develop immunity. I did say we should know soon. I did say there is NO PROOF that once antibodies are detected that intact, viable infective virions are presented. Please point me to the Chinese or Korean studies that have proven they are. Always willing to learn.

... and by the way I linked to a multi-site study a couple of days showing there were three antibody test with very few FPs or FNs.

“we should know soon”

so we agree then. we should not be directing populations in to act on something that “we should know soon” will work or not

[picnroll]

“we should know soon”

so we agree then. we should not be directing populations in to act on something that “we should know soon” will work or not
Of course. I’m not a brain dead Trash fan.

[baseline bum]

However, reports of early reinfections in Japan, as well as concerns over dozens of individuals in South Korea who tested positive after a documented COVID-19 infection, have health authorities and scientists perplexed. According to the spokesman for the South Korean health and welfare minister, Son Young-rae, these positive results occurred between two days and two weeks after patients were released from quarantine. Some had developed fevers and respiratory symptoms as well. They were placed back into isolation. Data from China on patients discharged from a Wuhan hospital corroborates these unusual developments, with approximately 5-10 percent of patients who had been pronounced “recovered” have tested positive for the virus again.

Is this really reinfection or is it recurrence of virus already in a survivor's system though? While pretty similar for the infected individual they're pretty different for the virus' spread.

[hater]

Of course. I’m not a brain dead Trash fan.

:tu

[hater]

Is this really reinfection or is it recurrence of virus already in a survivor's system though? While pretty similar for the infected individual they're pretty different for the virus' spread.

I think thats why they use “perplexing”

there is that case about that pro soccer player Dybala who still testing positive even after 40 days in isolation

[Winehole23]

1255179980893564935

Jesus.

- During World War II, we taxed the rich at 96 percent on earnings over 200K to help fund the war effort.
- Today, we give the rich 500 billion to "help" the war effort.

:lol, Yeah without that preserving jobs stipulation, it's really going to "trickle down." I expect this cash to be used mostly for stock buybacks in a last ditch effort to save some of the quarterly report.They're pushing on a string. The real economy is estimated to contract by ~35% in Q2. We could be looking at 30% unemployment by the end of next month.

Investors =/= the economy.

[midnightpulp]

1255573596933685250

So much wrong with this. His "pseudo-trolley problem" perspective here can be easily dismantled.

[Medvedenko]

1255573596933685250

So much wrong with this. His "pseudo-trolley problem" perspective here can be easily dismantled.

Hmm I don't recall when a bunch of 5 year old died at Sandy Hook there was nothing done of note on the change front.....Also Ben sounds like such a nerd it's hard to take him seriously.

[hater]

Russian PM tests positive

For some reason I have a feeling Putin will fall ill as well

[ducks]

Trump gets bump in latest Gallup Poll:
49% approval (+6, tied for his best)
47% disapproval (-7)

[Spurs Homer]

Russian PM tests positive

For some reason I have a feeling Putin will fall ill as well

nah

putin and trump have the antidote

[pgardn]

Russian PM tests positive

For some reason I have a feeling Putin will fall ill as well

Boris Johnson was overweight and a big smoker.
He got pretty close to kicking it, but had the really good people watching over him.
I imagine Putin will have the best people as well if he gets disturbing symptoms.

This healthcare thing is clearly not equitable which is why we have a much larger % Of minorities dying from this shit.

[TimDunkem]

Nearly at 64k deaths in the US. Good news is that we only have 10k more to go between now and August you guys!

[spurraider21]

Hmm I don't recall when a bunch of 5 year old died at Sandy Hook there was nothing done of note on the change front.....Also Ben sounds like such a nerd it's hard to take him seriously.
:lol he was a virgin until he was 24

[ChumpDumper]

"Republican governor uses national guard to protect South Korean medical tests from theft by Republican president."

1255922620832329729

[Reck]

So Remdesivir only works somewhat on patients that are gravely ill. It doesn't works on just any COVID19 positive person.

[ChumpDumper]

So Remdesivir only works somewhat on patients that are gravely ill. It doesn't works on just any COVID19 positive person.Dr. Darrin says they're doing it wrong.

[boutons_deux]

Republican-led states signal they could strip workers’ unemployment benefits

if they don’t return to work, sparking fresh safety fears

The message to workers is “endanger your life or starve,”

Iowa, Oklahoma and other states reopening soon amid the coronavirus (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/02/28/what-you-need-know-about-coronavirus/?tid=lk_inline_manual_2&itid=lk_inline_manual_2) outbreak are issuing early warnings to their worried workers:

Return to your jobs or risk losing unemployment benefits.
The threats have been loudest among Republican leaders :lol in recent days, :lol Profits over people

Labor activists, however, contend the reality is far more complicated:

Some now-unemployed Americans weren’t making much money in the first place,

so they may not want to risk their safety just to return to underpaid old gigs.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/30/republican-states-unemployment-benefits/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9. eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YS IsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNTk3NDBkYjNhZGU0ZTIxYTg0OTNm ZGFlIiwidGFnIjoiNWVhYjM2ZTBmZTFmZjY1NGMyYzgzZGY0Ii widXJsIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud2FzaGluZ3RvbnBvc3QuY29t L2J1c2luZXNzLzIwMjAvMDQvMzAvcmVwdWJsaWNhbi1zdGF0ZX MtdW5lbXBsb3ltZW50LWJlbmVmaXRzLz91dG1fY2FtcGFpZ249 d3BfdG9feW91cl9oZWFsdGgmdXRtX21lZGl1bT1lbWFpbCZ1dG 1fc291cmNlPW5ld3NsZXR0ZXImd3Bpc3JjPW5sX3R5aCZ3cG1r PTEifQ.sXwovUo2jSkEJWKhxIsou0NvlBNvuK3AzIMMSUavIeE&utm_campaign=wp_to_your_health&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_tyh&wpmk=1 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/30/republican-states-unemployment-benefits/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9. eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YS IsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNTk3NDBkYjNhZGU0ZTIxYTg0OTNm ZGFlIiwidGFnIjoiNWVhYjM2ZTBmZTFmZjY1NGMyYzgzZGY0Ii widXJsIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud2FzaGluZ3RvbnBvc3QuY29t L2J1c2luZXNzLzIwMjAvMDQvMzAvcmVwdWJsaWNhbi1zdGF0ZX MtdW5lbXBsb3ltZW50LWJlbmVmaXRzLz91dG1fY2FtcGFpZ249 d3BfdG9feW91cl9oZWFsdGgmdXRtX21lZGl1bT1lbWFpbCZ1dG 1fc291cmNlPW5ld3NsZXR0ZXImd3Bpc3JjPW5sX3R5aCZ3cG1r PTEifQ.sXwovUo2jSkEJWKhxIsou0NvlBNvuK3AzIMMSUavIeE&utm_campaign=wp_to_your_health&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_tyh&wpmk=1)

... while Moscow Mitch working on "immunity" from lawsuits for employers whose employees get sick on the job.

[TimDunkem]

^Texas is doing it too.

[boutons_deux]

California official calls for reopening so coronavirus can kill off the old and the weak:

‘It would also free up housing’

In the April 23 post, Antioch planning commissioner chair Ken Turnage II said that coronavirus is like a forest fire that burns “old trees, fallen brush and scrub-shrub sucklings” that drain resources, adding that society will “strengthen” when the pandemic “is all settled.”

“We would have significant loss of life,

we would lose many elderly, that would reduce burdens in our defunct Social Security System,

health care cost (once the wave subsided),

make jobs available for others and

it would also free up housing in which we are in dire need of,” Turnage wrote in the post that has since been deleted.

“We would lose a large portion of the people with immune and other health complications.

I know it would be loved ones as well. :lol

But that would once again reduce our impact on medical, jobs, and housing.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/california-official-calls-for-reopening-so-coronavirus-can-kill-off-the-old-and-the-weak-it-would-also-free-up-housing/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4429

The Overton Window opens wide for Repug sychopaths.

[ChumpDumper]

California official calls for reopening so coronavirus can kill off the old and the weak:

‘It would also free up housing’

In the April 23 post, Antioch planning commissioner chair Ken Turnage II said that coronavirus is like a forest fire that burns “old trees, fallen brush and scrub-shrub sucklings” that drain resources, adding that society will “strengthen” when the pandemic “is all settled.”

“We would have significant loss of life,

we would lose many elderly, that would reduce burdens in our defunct Social Security System,

health care cost (once the wave subsided),

make jobs available for others and

it would also free up housing in which we are in dire need of,” Turnage wrote in the post that has since been deleted.

“We would lose a large portion of the people with immune and other health complications.

I know it would be loved ones as well. :lol

But that would once again reduce our impact on medical, jobs, and housing.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/california-official-calls-for-reopening-so-coronavirus-can-kill-off-the-old-and-the-weak-it-would-also-free-up-housing/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4429

The Overton Window opens wide for Repug sychopaths.

Ken's business slogan takes on a whole new dimension for his elderly clients.

https://i.imgur.com/nIW2YAN.jpg

[apalisoc_9]

Florida not even counting.

64k is probably closer to 80k

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1255990397362470918?s=19

blue state stuff

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1255990397362470918?s=19

blue state stuff

:lol blue state

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1255990397362470918?s=19

blue state stuffTheir house is red and they'd rather file a frivolous lawsuit than deal with a public health emergency.

[Chris]

"frivolous" :lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1255930038295371788?s=19

uh oh Big Mike :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

"frivolous" :lolDo you think the lawsuit is more important than the public health emergency?

Yes or no.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1255930038295371788?s=19

uh oh Big Mike :lmaoWho is Big Mike?

[baseline bum]

"Republican governor uses national guard to protect South Korean medical tests from theft by Republican president."

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I'd really like to hear how "states it's your responsibility" and then "oh and we're taking your PPE you procured" to save lives in a pandemic isn't the greatest political scandal in the history of this nation.

[picnroll]

"frivolous" :lol
If you get COVID will you stand your ground for your rights and skip going to the ER or do you want your rights and put healthcare workers at risk too like a selfish little bitch?

[Reck]

If you get COVID will you stand your ground for your rights and skip going to the ER or do you want your rights and put healthcare workers at risk too like a selfish little bitch?

:lol Asked and answered.

Chrisbot is a pussy.

[ChumpDumper]

I'd really like to hear how "states it's your responsibility" and then "oh and we're taking your PPE you procured" to save lives in a pandemic isn't the greatest political scandal in the history of this nation.NO TEH GREATEST SCANDAL IS PROSECUTING FLYNN FOR LYING TO TEH FEDS AFTER HE LIED TO TEH FEDS LIKE TEH FEDS THOUGHT HE WOULD

Also did you know the Civil War was fought by Democrat patriots defending states' rights?

[midnightpulp]

Ken's business slogan takes on a whole new dimension for his elderly clients.

https://i.imgur.com/nIW2YAN.jpg

I "respect" Ken for at least saying what many "reopeners" are feeling. It's so phony when the reopener Libertarian crowd tries to justify it by appealing to :cry increased suicide rates and substance abuse :cry that will happen because of the economic turmoil. We know they don't give a shit about that. The only thing they give a shit about are their stock portfolios, business investments, and businesses they own.

[baseline bum]

I "respect" Ken for at least saying what many "reopeners" are feeling. It's so phony when the reopener Libertarian crowd tries to justify it by appealing to :cry increased suicide rates and substance abuse :cry that will happen because of the economic turmoil. We know they don't give a shit about that. The only thing they give a shit about are their stock portfolios, business investments, and businesses they own.

The GOP just taking Will Hunting's #BoomerRemover shtick once Biden got a lead over Trump in the polls with the 65+ demographic.

[Chris]

If you get COVID will you stand your ground for your rights and skip going to the ER or do you want your rights and put healthcare workers at risk too like a selfish little bitch?

lol wut

[midnightpulp]

From Michigan:

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Yeah, having two tween girls dancing around while wearing Trump and Obama masks is the kind of thing people who "just want to get back to work" would do at a protest. That said, what a surreal scene. Like something out of a Harmony Korine movie.

[ChumpDumper]

From Michigan:

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Yeah, having two tween girls dancing around while wearing Trump and Obama masks is the kind of thing people who "just want to get back to work" would do at a protest. That said, what a surreal scene. Like something out of a Harmony Korine movie.https://media2.giphy.com/media/DwLD4GgGX9M4w/giphy.gif

[DMC]

These people are important.

[Death In June]

I was talking to a friend the other day about our current herd immunity strategy and we were hard pressed to come up with a successful historical example that wasn't vaccine driven. Does anybody know of any examples throughout history or what the time frame was for that immunological outcome?

[baseline bum]

These people are important.

Our Dear Leader seems to think so.

[ChumpDumper]

Our Dear Leader seems to think so.Is he the Candy Man for the little girls or is Obama? I really want there to be an innocent explanation for this song choice.

[DMC]

I was talking to a friend the other day about our current herd immunity strategy and we were hard pressed to come up with a successful historical example that wasn't vaccine driven. Does anybody know of any examples throughout history or what the time frame was for that immunological outcome?

I think the term is being misused here (on this site). Typically it means someone not vaccinated can be somewhat safe from a virus because those around them are immune, so they hide in the herd and their contacts are all immune. Expecting people to naturally develop immunity though, that's something different. Not sure how those are being equated.

[Blake]

I was talking to a friend the other day about our current herd immunity strategy and we were hard pressed to come up with a successful historical example that wasn't vaccine driven. Does anybody know of any examples throughout history or what the time frame was for that immunological outcome?

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/achieving-herd-immunity-with-covid19.html

[Nathan89]

People are starting to relax on mask wearing and social distancing tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

USA! USA! USA!

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[midnightpulp]

People are starting to relax on mask wearing and social distancing tbh.

And I hope those people enjoy the longer lockdown that will result from it. People honestly need to learn how virus transmission works with regard to R0.

[ChumpDumper]

And I hope those people enjoy the longer lockdown that will result from it. People honestly need to learn how virus transmission works with regard to R0.It just feels like we're hanging fire in Austin with the daily new case number being flat this month. Looks like shit's gonna explode if the sun doesn't shoot the virus with Lysol in May.

[midnightpulp]

It just feels like we're hanging fire in Austin with the daily new case number being flat this month. Looks like shit's gonna explode if the sun doesn't shoot the virus with Lysol in May.

I think one of the biggest miscommunications errors of this crisis so far has been not simply explaining the R0 factor to the American public. Yes, in many regions around the country, hospitals aren't overwhelmed and you might not know anyone who's come down with the virus. This fact is what is fueling many of the conspiracy theories, belief that the virus isn't as serious as advertised, and that social distancing and stay-at-home orders weren't really needed. But the reason a place isn't getting slammed by Covid like New York or Italy is because these orders have worked and have reduced the R0. Reducing the R0 from 1 person infects 3 to 1 person infects 2 is huge.

R0 of 2: 1-2-4-8-16-32-64, a total of 126 infections after 7 steps.
R0 of 3: 1-3-9-27-81-243-729 a total of 1092 infections/deaths after 7 steps.

Extrapolate that to 100, 1000 steps, and the difference between the two is mindboggling, and all it took was one extra person getting infected. This is why epidemiologists and the leaders they're informing are nervous about reopening. Not because they want to control yer freedumbs and hurt Dear Leader. A marginal difference in R0 results in a staggering difference of overall number of infections and death.

[pgardn]

People are starting to relax on mask wearing and social distancing tbh.

Just anecdotally, I would say exactly the opposite.
Where do you live?

[pgardn]

I think one of the biggest miscommunications errors of this crisis so far has been not simply explaining the R0 factor to the American public. Yes, in many regions around the country, hospitals aren't overwhelmed and you might not know anyone who's come down with the virus. This fact is what is fueling many of the conspiracy theories, belief that the virus isn't as serious as advertised, and that social distancing and stay-at-home orders weren't really needed. But the reason a place isn't getting slammed by Covid like New York or Italy is because these orders have worked and have reduced the R0. Reducing the R0 from 1 person infects 3 to 1 person infects 2 is huge.

R0 of 2: 1-2-4-8-16-32-64, a total of 126 infections after 7 steps.
R0 of 3: 1-3-9-27-81-243-729 a total of 1092 infections/deaths after 7 steps.

Extrapolate that to 100, 1000 steps, and the difference between the two is mindboggling, and all it took was one extra person getting infected. This is why epidemiologists and the leaders they're informing are nervous about reopening. Not because they want to control yer freedumbs and hurt Dear Leader. A marginal difference in R0 results in a staggering difference of overall number of infections and death.

This is almost like sci notation.
If you dont work with it, you dont get it.

9 x 10^2 1 x 10^4 unless its spelled out like you did.

[phxspurfan]

https://www.endcoronavirus.org/daily-update-global


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[apalisoc_9]

I'm thinking US will be at 200k deaths by end of november.

That's a lot of dead people.

[baseline bum]

I think one of the biggest miscommunications errors of this crisis so far has been not simply explaining the R0 factor to the American public. Yes, in many regions around the country, hospitals aren't overwhelmed and you might not know anyone who's come down with the virus. This fact is what is fueling many of the conspiracy theories, belief that the virus isn't as serious as advertised, and that social distancing and stay-at-home orders weren't really needed. But the reason a place isn't getting slammed by Covid like New York or Italy is because these orders have worked and have reduced the R0. Reducing the R0 from 1 person infects 3 to 1 person infects 2 is huge.

R0 of 2: 1-2-4-8-16-32-64, a total of 126 infections after 7 steps.
R0 of 3: 1-3-9-27-81-243-729 a total of 1092 infections/deaths after 7 steps.

Extrapolate that to 100, 1000 steps, and the difference between the two is mindboggling, and all it took was one extra person getting infected. This is why epidemiologists and the leaders they're informing are nervous about reopening. Not because they want to control yer freedumbs and hurt Dear Leader. A marginal difference in R0 results in a staggering difference of overall number of infections and death.

Americans are actually proud to suck at math. You're not going to teach them about exponential growth.

[baseline bum]

I'm thinking US will be at 200k deaths by end of november.

That's a lot of dead people.

We're only 11,000 short of the Trump administration August projection. With 2470, 2390, 2201 deaths the last three days I guess our Dear Leader is depending on reanimating corspes?

[phxspurfan]

NASCAR goes green in May with four Cup Series races in 11 days
https://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/29118934/nascar-goes-green-seven-races-11-days


NASCAR will return to action at Darlington Raceway on May 17, kicking off a packed two-week schedule announced Thursday.

The 400-mile Cup Series event on May 17 will be the first of seven events in 11 days involving all three NASCAR national series. The revised schedule has a pair of Wednesday races, fulfilling fans' longtime plea for midweek events.

Three of those races -- two Cup Series races and an Xfinity Series event -- will be held at Darlington, NASCAR's oldest superspeedway.

NASCAR joins the UFC, which returns May 9, as the first major sports organizations to announce specific return-to-play plans

[slick'81]

https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/29/white...Ctp_NIFWj1rFjo (https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/29/white-house-gift-shop-selling-commemorative-coronavirus-coins-covid-19-trump/?fbclid=IwAR2gJ6JynGEeJPLtCGRUA8RzmzpKnpsOeoFzpz5g zomPZCtp_NIFWj1rFjo)

The WH gift shop is selling commemorative COVID-19 coins. Tbf the shop is privately owned and simply affiliated with the WH, but still, ho-lee fuck balls.

[Trainwreck2100]

From Michigan:

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Yeah, having two tween girls dancing around while wearing Trump and Obama masks is the kind of thing people who "just want to get back to work" would do at a protest. That said, what a surreal scene. Like something out of a Harmony Korine movie.
Well at least they're wearing masks

[RandomGuy]

I think one of the biggest miscommunications errors of this crisis so far has been not simply explaining the R0 factor to the American public. Yes, in many regions around the country, hospitals aren't overwhelmed and you might not know anyone who's come down with the virus. This fact is what is fueling many of the conspiracy theories, belief that the virus isn't as serious as advertised, and that social distancing and stay-at-home orders weren't really needed. But the reason a place isn't getting slammed by Covid like New York or Italy is because these orders have worked and have reduced the R0. Reducing the R0 from 1 person infects 3 to 1 person infects 2 is huge.

R0 of 2: 1-2-4-8-16-32-64, a total of 126 infections after 7 steps.
R0 of 3: 1-3-9-27-81-243-729 a total of 1092 infections/deaths after 7 steps.

Extrapolate that to 100, 1000 steps, and the difference between the two is mindboggling, and all it took was one extra person getting infected. This is why epidemiologists and the leaders they're informing are nervous about reopening. Not because they want to control yer freedumbs and hurt Dear Leader. A marginal difference in R0 results in a staggering difference of overall number of infections and death.

Well, they are going to push the R0 number higher.

Experts, and anyone with any common sense have known that people will think that we over-reacted, and will, in turn, underreact.

This is like a slow-motion wreck that you see coming, but can't do anything about other than duck behind something.

[boutons_deux]

60M dead in just two months?

The Trump Pandemic will live forever in infamy

[monosylab1k]

We're only 11,000 short of the Trump administration August projection. With 2470, 2390, 2201 deaths the last three days I guess our Dear Leader is depending on reanimating corspes?

He’s just going to run with the “Medical facilities are abusing the system, the real death count is much lower” excuse and anybody who believed otherwise is a libtard Shillary worshipper, etc. And of course it will work.

[hater]

He’s just going to run with the “Medical facilities are abusing the system, the real death count is much lower” excuse and anybody who believed otherwise is a libtard Shillary worshipper, etc. And of course it will work.

the deep state already has designed the response from the federal government. thats why you heard Facci change his tune and really now when you hear Facci, Trump, Pence they all parrot the same thing.

they are all on board. they will do the utmost to change public perception that the economic doom will be worse than this virus.

[baseline bum]

60M dead in just two months?


???

[hater]

also Trumps slogan will be that he was for reopening economy so yes. he has next election in the bag

hes a fucking smart guy and runs circles around the DNC deuchebags

[boutons_deux]

https://www.endcoronavirus.org/daily-update-global


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Same plateau-ing in MA, from Boston Globe email





Six weeks after social distancing began,

Mass. coronavirus hospitalizations and cases remain high.

Why so little improvement?










Rewind the clock a month, to late March, as nonessential businesses were closing and

Governor Charlie Baker asked us to stay home to reduce the spread of coronavirus.

Where did we imagine we would be as a state by the start of May?

A lot further along than we are now.

It’s maddening:

More than six weeks after statewide social distancing measures began to take effect,

the number of hospitalizations for COVID-19 infections is stuck in a stubbornly high place, and

the daily death toll is at once tragic and numbing.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/04/30/metro/five-weeks-after-social-distancing-began-mass-covid-19-hospitalizations-cases-remain-high-why-so-little-improvement/?s_campaign=breakingnews:newsletter

[DarrinS]

https://media2-production.mightynetworks.com/asset/9794803/Treating_Covid-19_in_ER_2_-_April_6_2020_final.pdf