Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[DMC]

I specified Republicans in this case because they would presumably be more in communication with Trump. Diane Feinstein calling Trump probably doesn't get an answer.

It doesn't matter why you did it. Corruption and money don't give a shit about party.

[ChumpDumper]

I guess 22.5 thousand dead people don't matter as long as you get your TDS fix.

If it's status quo to ignore the briefing for 2 consecutive terms (Obama) then it's status quo.Multiple strawmen!

[Winehole23]

shit tornado engagedthe rapid cycling of bullshit is Trumpian PR, par excellence

[DMC]

At no point in time have you said: Trump fucking sucks bro, yeah he really fucked up.

You’re defending him.

Because he’s your cult leader

Because it would really make you feel better if someone would acknowledge your feelings?

[Blake]

I guess 22.5 thousand dead people don't matter as long as you get your TDS fix.

If it's status quo to ignore the briefing for 2 consecutive terms (Obama) then it's status quo.

Straw

[vy65]

I guess 22.5 thousand dead people don't matter as long as you get your TDS fix.

If it's status quo to ignore the briefing for 2 consecutive terms (Obama) then it's status quo.

So Obama’s fuck ups save Trump? Was Obama really the black savior we’ve all been told?

[ChumpDumper]

Because it would really make you feel better if someone would acknowledge your feelings?Why do you feel you have to defend Trump like this?

[Blake]

It doesn't matter why you did it. Corruption and money don't give a shit about party.

Straw

[DMC]

All this angst, this wailing and gnashing of teeth and what has been the outcome? Joe Biden is the dem candidate.

Yeah you really care, it's oozing from your entire party :lol

[ElNono]

Odds on who’s next to blame? Smart money is on Ellen Degeneres or BLM

"Would've been any different if Shillary was president?"

[vy65]

Because it would really make you feel better if someone would acknowledge your feelings?

Cuomo - Obama - Di Blasio - vy65

[midnightpulp]

It’s bizarre that people think they need to choose a side to criticize another. It’s totally acceptable to say: I hate what Obama did while President - and - I think Trump is just as bad. It’s this weird tribalism. For someone who refuses forced choices, you’d think they’d know better

DMC loves to be contrarian. He's reasonable, but likes to play Devil's Advocate to the orthodoxy (and the orthodox opinion on this site does lean Left). I also think he wants balanced criticism toward both sides, and we're giving him that. I said that ANYONE, right or left, who downplayed the crisis should be axed.

The Cult of 45 is beyond hope, obviously. They will never, ever, ever blame Trump for anything. It's a tribal allegiance to a politician I've never seen in my life in this country.

[ChumpDumper]

All this angst, this wailing and gnashing of teeth and what has been the outcome? Joe Biden is the dem candidate.

Yeah you really care, it's oozing from your entire party :lol:lol you're just trying to work in every Democrat name you can remember now.

Did Trump do anything wrong RE: this pandemic?

Yes or no.

If yes, what?

[DMC]

So Obama’s fuck ups save Trump? Was Obama really the black savior we’ve all been told?

Go with that defense. It will work well.

[DarrinS]

I do. I can make a joke too.

I honestly think Trump still would have done nothing because he staked his re-election on the stock market and would have been too terrified to do anything meaningful. That’s why he said all those retarded things in February.


And yet, he sacrificed it.

[Blake]

All this angst, this wailing and gnashing of teeth and what has been the outcome? Joe Biden is the dem candidate.

Yeah you really care, it's oozing from your entire party :lol

Blather

[vy65]

Throw in some Biden too for good measure

[Winehole23]

"Would've been any different if Shillary was president?"Might have been more scared of dying, tbh.

[DMC]

DMC loves to be contrarian. He's reasonable, but likes to play Devil's Advocate to the orthodoxy (and the orthodox opinion on this site does lean Left). I also think he wants balanced criticism toward both sides, and we're giving him that. I said that ANYONE, right or left, who downplayed the crisis should be axed.

The Cult of 45 is beyond hope, obviously. They will never, ever, ever blame Trump for anything. It's a tribal allegiance to a politician I've never seen in my life in this country.

No I don't

[Blake]

And yet, he sacrificed it.

Huh?

[vy65]

This all goes back to the fucking pinko Carter administration, amirite DMC?

[ChumpDumper]

And yet, he sacrificed it.?

That's a whopper.:lol

[midnightpulp]

No I don't

:lol. I've talked with you for almost a decade now. You do. You'll always challenge the perceived orthodox point-of-view.

[DMC]

:lol. I've talked with you for almost a decade now. You do. You'll always challenge the perceived orthodox point-of-view.

No conversation if we all agree on everything.

[Winehole23]

And yet, he sacrificed it.I think it's more accurate to say it was sacrificed for him. Two other Presidents have gone bankrupt while in office, Monroe and McKinley.

Monroe begged for, and I believed was granted, money from the US Congress.

[ElNono]

Might have been more scared of dying, tbh.

If there's something I think she would match Trump 1:1 on this, is that she also wouldn't give two shits about deaths other than how it would've impacted her re-election.

[Blake]

This all goes back to the fucking pinko Carter administration, amirite DMC?

Yes, the 3 year backlog back to 1977

[DMC]

If there's something I think she would match Trump 1:1 on this, is that she also wouldn't give two shits about deaths other than how it would've impacted her re-election.

I've seen politicians who would sell you better on their concern for you than Trump (not even remotely concerned about you, doesn't pretend to be at least not very well) but I don't think I've ever seen one who gives two shits about people. If there was one in my life time, maybe GWB, but not even sure of that.

[ElNono]

And yet, he sacrificed it.

I don't think that was out of his own volition, tbh... governors were already shutting shit down. He was also in a hurry to open up again.

Frankly, it's not his fault this virus showed up to put front and center what a terrible leader he is, but it really did a number on him.

[DMC]

This all goes back to the fucking pinko Carter administration, amirite DMC?

no, it goes back to 2009, Obama's first year in office and persisted for 11 years. Make folly of that, I don't care. 70/30 is the split.

[ChumpDumper]

I've seen politicians who would sell you better on their concern for you than Trump (not even remotely concerned about you, doesn't pretend to be at least not very well) but I don't think I've ever seen one who gives two shits about people. If there was one in my life time, maybe GWB, but not even sure of that.LET'S TALK ABOUT ANYONE OTHER THAN THE ACTUAL CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao "sacrificed"

[Blake]

no, it goes back to 2009, Obama's first year in office and persisted for 11 years. Make folly of that, I don't care. 70/30 is the split.

The 11 year 3 year backlog

[DMC]

Chumpy rapid fire posting and no one reading any of it. and Blake lapdogging him with follow up comments. Just another night on ST.

[ElNono]

I've seen politicians who would sell you better on their concern for you than Trump (not even remotely concerned about you, doesn't pretend to be at least not very well) but I don't think I've ever seen one who gives two shits about people. If there was one in my life time, maybe GWB, but not even sure of that.

I think some are pretty good, even if deep down you know they probably don't give two shits. I would put Obama there, I think at times he displayed that fake concern for certain people. Bush Sr did it with actions, by withdrawing troops from Kuwait, and that was probably not fake.

At the local level it's more common, because it's harder to be cynical like that.

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpy rapid fire posting and no one reading any of it. and Blake lapdogging him with follow up comments. Just another night on ST.DMC deflecting to purely personal posts.

:lol so predictable

[Blake]

Chumpy rapid fire posting and no one reading any of it. and Blake lapdogging him with follow up comments. Just another night on ST.

Everyone's reading your rapid fire posts. One of the more entertaining nights of late on ST

[DMC]

I think some are pretty good, even if deep down you know they probably don't give two shits. I would put Obama there, I think at times he displayed that fake concern for certain people. Bush Sr did it with actions, by withdrawing troops from Kuwait, and that was probably not fake.

At the local level it's more common, because it's harder to be cynical like that.

Yeah I don't give a fuck about local politicians deciding where to put the convention center.

[Spurminator]

I think some are pretty good, even if deep down you know they probably don't give two shits. I would put Obama there, I think at times he displayed that fake concern for certain people. Bush Sr did it with actions, by withdrawing troops from Kuwait, and that was probably not fake.

At the local level it's more common, because it's harder to be cynical like that.

Empathy can be exhausting, especially if you're the leader of the free world (I'd imagine.) Still, I've seen every President in my lifetime show moments of real sincere empathy and humanity.

Until the current one.

[Blake]

Yeah I don't give a fuck about local politicians deciding where to put the convention center.

No, you only give a fuck about local politicians when global pandemics come to town.

[ElNono]

Empathy can be exhausting, especially if you're the leader of the free world (I'd imagine.) Still, I've seen every President in my lifetime show moments of real sincere empathy and humanity.

Until the current one.

I completely agree. I mean, the fact that US democracy appears likely to survive this clown is a testament to this country, despite all the flaws we do have.

[Winehole23]

If there's something I think she would match Trump 1:1 on this, is that she also wouldn't give two shits about deaths other than how it would've impacted her re-election.I can buy that. The Clintons kinda normalized being a gangster in high government. So to speak.

[Spurminator]

I completely agree. I mean, the fact that US democracy appears likely to survive this clown is a testament to this country, despite all the flaws we do have.

I hope you're right but there's still 6 months left to selectively close urban polling locations and cancel voter registrations.

[Winehole23]

I hope you're right but there's still 6 months left to selectively close urban polling locations and cancel voter registrations.
So, it's cool to go to out to eat, or get a haircut, but it's too dangerous to vote?

Or will it be more dangerous then because we're getting lax now?

[hater]

voting in social distance is actually not hard

its lazy americans who make it out to be something impossible

of course youd have to have more voting station, more volunteers and extend voting to an entire weekend

but its not fucking rocket science tbqh

[ElNono]

voting in social distance is actually not hard

its lazy americans who make it out to be something impossible

of course youd have to have more voting station, more volunteers and extend voting to an entire weekend

but its not fucking rocket science tbqh

lol @ voting on weekends... this is america, we vote tuesday and you ain't getting the day off! god forbid the middle-lower class shows up to vote...

[boutons_deux]

I completely agree. I mean, the fact that US democracy appears likely to survive this clown is a testament to this country, despite all the flaws we do have.

what The Trash Pandemic has done has severely damaged the country, damage that will take years to repair.

L-shaped like the 2009 Repug-stalled recovery, not V-shaped.

The destruction of the "administrative state" and tainting/polluting the Federal judiciary will take decades to receover

I seriously doubt that America will ever recover since the "recovery" would be under Dem govts.

we know that the Dems are silent accomplices in the Repug destruction.

What is happening by the Repup kakistocracy in Trash's Exec has been going on since 2001. And they even got Clinton to sign 5 major bills that were the oligarchy's long-term objectives.

An Obama Federal district judge this week blocked Trash logging project, and we know for sure a McConnell/Leo Leonard political hack judge would have permitted the logging.

And look at the political / judicial Keystone Kops bullshit between Abbott/Patrick, pro-abortion people, and the Repug politicized 5th Circuit.

America is fucked and unfuckable. The Trash Pandemic demonstrates clearly that America is a failed state.

Even today, the oligarchy is stealing $Bs from taxpayers with the corrupt PPP program.

And there is no way to stop it.

[hater]

at least we are not UK tbqh :lmao

:lol they were counting a pair of gloves as 16 units of PPE :lmao


holy fuck

https://twitter.com/SueSuezep/status/1255053447663149056?s=20

[hater]

:lol toothless brits

how low this old empire has fallen imo

[InRareForm]

https://www.wnpr.org/post/listen-alcoholism-and-coronavirus

[hater]

wish America had news organizations that would do this type of investigative journalism tho

too bad americuck population is just too damn stupid and brainwashed

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1254834092266455040?s=20

[hater]

this is how a real country responds to a pandemic ma nigs :wow

god bless the holy empire of Cuba

long live Fidel

:tu

https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1254431248375787520?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/dijoni/status/1254648081468948480?s=21

[Spurs Homer]

No I don't


DMC = TFC

Defending
Muh
Criminal

The
Fat
Contrarian

[DMC]

DMC = TFC

Defending
Muh
Criminal

The
Fat
Contrarian

Ironic you calling anyone fat, Barney.

[RandomGuy]

Throw in some Biden too for good measure

"Our rapist didn't tell you to drink bleach"

That is what it has come to.

[hater]

I think its pretty clear Western countries are scrambling to save their failing economies and open back up despite still us being in mid pandemic.

The forecasts are still dire and experts say this is too fast. I happen to agree but also understand we cannot keep being completely closed.

Also latest news on the virus are not good at all. Vaccine might not be an
option due to strains/mutations, warm weather might not do much to it, 2nd wave will likely be more powerful and there will be multiple waves in 2021.

And to top it all the stupidest people alive are in charge to decide when and how to open up.

a recipe for disaster.

grim news ma nigs

and this is not even bringing up the tact that politicians and business ppl expect us to go back to normal :lmao when that is absolutely not going to be possible thus economic doom is unavoidable.

thisisfine.gif

[hater]

I call this next phase of the virus “the muck”

when we do everything to open up and live normal but will be stuck in muck after muck

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/94570709_1147003788984630_8182124865969455104_n.jp g?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=pJofOGbJl94AX95DajB&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=f3b77d50afeabe9e6c8561b62fb10622&oe=5ECC0CD3

[DMC]

:lol the left is coming apart. It's quite a show.

[Spurs Homer]

I think its pretty clear Western countries are scrambling to save their failing economies and open back up despite still us being in mid pandemic.

The forecasts are still dire and experts say this is too fast. I happen to agree but also understand we cannot keep being completely closed.

Also latest news on the virus are not good at all. Vaccine might not be an
option due to strains/mutations, warm weather might not do much to it, 2nd wave will likely be more powerful and there will be multiple waves in 2021.

And to top it all the stupidest people alive are in charge to decide when and how to open up.

a recipe for disaster.

grim news ma nigs

and this is not even bringing up the tact that politicians and business ppl expect us to go back to normal :lmao when that is absolutely not going to be possible thus economic doom is unavoidable.

thisisfine.gif


Hey hater-

lets go with your premise here ^

suppose- just suppose - that you WANTED a revolution...


this would be the perfect time to tear down this shit-system for the 1% cunts

let the economy go to shit and lets see what happens


fuck saving the 1% - is my preference

[DMC]

^ :lol

Yeah, stop buying tortillas from HEB and Modelo. That will crash the economy.

[Spurs Homer]

^ :lol

Yeah, stop buying tortillas from HEB and Modelo. That will crash the economy.


nah- I wont drink Modelo- god forbid my hands turn yellow and balloon-like!

I buy the Thirsty Goat!


:hat

[hater]

Hey hater-

lets go with your premise here ^

suppose- just suppose - that you WANTED a revolution...


this would be the perfect time to tear down this shit-system for the 1% cunts

let the economy go to shit and lets see what happens


fuck saving the 1% - is my preference

huh? the economy is going to shit. theres no stopping this.

hotel/entertainment/restaurant/air travel business is not coming back

for at least 1 year

thats 1 year of 20% unemployment here

time to face the music. buckle up for the rough ride, and take care of family/friends.

grapes of wrath my nig

but Revolution is probably not in the cards. at least not here. americucks are too brainwashed and complacent.

more likely is the 1% will tighten the grip of 99%

hope im wrong

[pgardn]

Interesting WSJ article

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-secret-group-of-scientists-and-billionaires-pushing-trump-on-a-covid-19-plan-11587998993

Yet another backdoor meeting since our fed government gave up on responsibility.

I found this of interest:

The group also disparaged the idea of using antibody testing (https://www.wsj.com/articles/facts-and-myths-about-coronavirus-antibody-tests-11587675200?mod=article_inline) to allow people back to work if their results showed they had recovered from the virus. Mr. Cravatt, a chemical biologist, declared it “the worst idea I’ve ever heard.” He said that prior exposure may not prevent people from giving the virus to others, and that overemphasizing antibody testing might tempt some people to intentionally infect themselves to later obtain a clean bill of health.

[Spurs Homer]

huh? the economy is going to shit. theres no stopping this.

hotel/entertainment/restaurant/air travel business is not coming back

for at least 1 year

thats 1 year of 20% unemployment here

time to face the music. buckle up for the rough ride, and take care of family/friends.

grapes of wrath my nig

but Revolution is probably not in the cards. at least not here. americucks are too brainwashed and complacent.

more likely is the 1% will tighten the grip of 99%

hope im wrong

maybe

but desperation breeds violence

and if the 1% - stay true to form - meaning greedy as fuck-

then they will try the “muscle” route - and maybe complacent americans will get desperate

[baseline bum]

I think its pretty clear Western countries are scrambling to save their failing economies and open back up despite still us being in mid pandemic.

The forecasts are still dire and experts say this is too fast. I happen to agree but also understand we cannot keep being completely closed.

Also latest news on the virus are not good at all. Vaccine might not be an
option due to strains/mutations, warm weather might not do much to it, 2nd wave will likely be more powerful and there will be multiple waves in 2021.

And to top it all the stupidest people alive are in charge to decide when and how to open up.

a recipe for disaster.

grim news ma nigs

and this is not even bringing up the tact that politicians and business ppl expect us to go back to normal :lmao when that is absolutely not going to be possible thus economic doom is unavoidable.

thisisfine.gif

Mid pandemic? If this was a baseball game we'd be in the middle of the first inning.

[pgardn]

The WSJ article above should be free.
I would like to know if it’s not to interject other quotes an opinions.

[boutons_deux]

Interesting WSJ article

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-secret-group-of-scientists-and-billionaires-pushing-trump-on-a-covid-19-plan-11587998993

Yet another backdoor meeting since our fed government gave up on responsibility.

I found this of interest:

The group also disparaged the idea of using antibody testing (https://www.wsj.com/articles/facts-and-myths-about-coronavirus-antibody-tests-11587675200?mod=article_inline) to allow people back to work if their results showed they had recovered from the virus. Mr. Cravatt, a chemical biologist, declared it “the worst idea I’ve ever heard.” He said that prior exposure may not prevent people from giving the virus to others, and that overemphasizing antibody testing might tempt some people to intentionally infect themselves to later obtain a clean bill of health.

I've read report where a lady totally free of C19 in her respiratory tract had active C19 virus in her eyes

Another report said people "recovered", symptom-free for 8 days, were still carrying ACTIVE C19 virus, ie, they were infectious

The lady in San Jose? first victim? C19 destroyed her heart.

we simply do not know all about C19

And w/o extensive testing and tracking, we are flying blind for sake of $$$

I note that the people pushing hard for re-opening do not consider themselves, their families, their friends, their employees at risk

the demonstrators are organized by people paid by billionaires, just like the Tea Baggers

[DMC]

I've read reports where a lady totally free of C19 in her respiratory tract have active C19 virus in her eyes

Another report said people "recovered", symptom-free for 8 days, were still carrying ACTIVE C19 virus, ie, they were infectious

But if only people with antibodies were allowed back, who are they going to infect?

Surely there's enough recovered folks by now to know whether or not these people are infecting others. Is Tom Hanks still in quarantine? How about Cuomo, oh that's right he never really was.

Some folks are capitalizing on the scare tactic shit. Science is good, this fear mongering is stupid. Eventually you have to leave the cave.

[Trill Clinton]

1254809365229404161

[pgardn]

I've read reports where a lady totally free of C19 in her respiratory tract have active C19 virus in her eyes

Another report said people "recovered", symptom-free for 8 days, were still carrying ACTIVE C19 virus, ie, they were infectious

This is interesting.
We just need larger studies.
Some people who get flu vaccinations don’t react.

This is where individual variation in response to infection must be culled out. Or, we find that a large % of people do not become immune to later infections. We have seen a variety of symptoms now pop up and possibly over reported because anomalies are fun.

Does it bother you You this group might be a bunch of overzealous geeks and rich folks getting things done back door?
Its yet another facet of this article. And is it free? The article?

[hater]

maybe

but desperation breeds violence

and if the 1% - stay true to form - meaning greedy as fuck-

then they will try the “muscle” route - and maybe complacent americans will get desperate

agree sure there will be violence

but revolution ? very doubtful

[CosmicCowboy]

a promising vaccine?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/27/world/europe/coronavirus-vaccine-update-oxford.html

[DarrinS]

https://nypost.com/2020/04/27/ive-worked-the-coronavirus-front-line-and-i-say-its-time-to-start-opening-up/

[hater]

we could have 40 million unemployed :wow

https://twitter.com/benzipperer/status/1255124214866235392?s=20

[spurraider21]

Obama is a black man.

You said the black man stole medical supplies.

Your words.
This is retarded tbh

[baseline bum]

https://nypost.com/2020/04/27/ive-worked-the-coronavirus-front-line-and-i-say-its-time-to-start-opening-up/

No shit the wave crested with the city locked down. And talking herd immunity when the NYC infection rate is estimated to be 21% from antibody testing done? That's a pretty far cry from the 40% to 70% infection rate epidemiologists like Osterholm say will be necessary.

[TimDunkem]

we could have 40 million unemployed :wow

https://twitter.com/benzipperer/status/1255124214866235392?s=20

And those that were approved have their own struggles. UI is behind several payments for a lot of people including myself.

[TimDunkem]

Hell, Sunday was my latest day to request an UI payment, but the website is so shitty it said it wasn't the correct day despite my claim saying it was indeed the 26th. Now I have to wait a few more days to request. Once I do, UI will be behind on 3 of my payments.

[DMC]

This is retarded tbh

Of course but goose/gander etc..

[baseline bum]

Hell, Sunday was my latest day to request an UI payment, but the website is so shitty it said it wasn't the correct day despite my claim saying it was indeed the 26th. Now I have to wait a few more days to request. Once I do, UI will be behind on 3 of my payments.

So basically system working as intended.

[RandomGuy]

Just for some perspective, more Americans have died of regular flu this season than the worldwide covid-19 deaths.

More than double the covid-19 count.

Just for some perspective, more people will have died in April from this one disease, than the entire year for the flu.

[TimDunkem]

So basically system working as intended.

Yeah probably. I have no faith in the system to give me what I'll be owed. Now the website is saying I was paid more than the one payment I've received. Bank says they have nothing pending, and other's I've asked have said they've gone through the same issues (claims not paid, late pay, site says it was paid but nothing was sent to account, etc).

No way I'll get ahold of anyone either. I've already tried but don't have the time to call all day like some people who are literally calling hundreds to a thousand times a day for a month now.

[TimDunkem]

Just for some perspective, more people will have died in April from this one disease, than the entire year for the flu.

NoT aS dEAdlY aS tHe SpANIsh FlU ThO

[hater]

Russia is fucked

Moscow will be NYC in a few days

called it

https://twitter.com/norbertelekes/status/1255162622888030209?s=21

[DarrinS]

Just for some perspective, more people will have died in April from this one disease, than the entire year for the flu.

Yeah, its worse than flu, but it's not ebola.

[DMC]

Would it be worse than the flu if no one got a flu shot?

[spurraider21]

Would it be worse than the flu if no one got a flu shot?
irrelevant and probably.

[RandomGuy]

I've read report where a lady totally free of C19 in her respiratory tract had active C19 virus in her eyes

Another report said people "recovered", symptom-free for 8 days, were still carrying ACTIVE C19 virus, ie, they were infectious

The lady in San Jose? first victim? C19 destroyed her heart.

we simply do not know all about C19

And w/o extensive testing and tracking, we are flying blind for sake of $$$

I note that the people pushing hard for re-opening do not consider themselves, their families, their friends, their employees at risk

the demonstrators are organized by people paid by billionaires, just like the Tea Baggers

This thing is just going to be everywhere. yikes.

[RandomGuy]

Yeah, its worse than flu, but it's not ebola.

Depends on what you mean by "worse".

Risk has two dimensions. Probability and magnitude. For the virus, transmittable = probability, and lethalness = magnitude

Ebola has a worse magnitude, but a much lower probability.

This his a massively larger probability, and lower magnitude.

Overall, Covid-19 is worse, as it is so much more easily passed on, despite being much less lethal. "Worse" in this sense being "will kill more people" in reality.

[RandomGuy]

Would it be worse than the flu if no one got a flu shot?

Heard that question asked.

The response is "novel". Flu is around so much that as a group we have some modest immunity to it anyway.

This is too "novel". Like introducing small pox to the americas.

[SpursforSix]

First dog tested positive. No idea what this means long term. Will it eventually infect all species?

https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/chapel-hill-pug-tests-positive-for-virus-that-causes-covid-19-first-known-case-in-a-dog-in-the-us/19074499/

[Blake]

First dog tested positive. No idea what this means long term. Will it eventually infect all species?

https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/chapel-hill-pug-tests-positive-for-virus-that-causes-covid-19-first-known-case-in-a-dog-in-the-us/19074499/

A zoo tiger has also had it.

[clambake]

Hopefully whales will get it

[boutons_deux]

Heard that question asked.

The response is "novel". Flu is around so much that as a group we have some modest immunity to it anyway.

This is too "novel". Like introducing small pox to the americas.

seasonal flu is not as easily transmissible as C19, and other infections have symptoms comparatively quickly so the victim knows, but C19 is transmissible and symptom-less for days before and sometimes even after symptoms are gone.

Capital considers Labor to be expendable, so you rightwingnutjobs go self-expend on we smart people's behalf

[TimDunkem]

And house cats.

[TimDunkem]

Hopefully whales will get it

Damn, brah. You wishing death on all of San Antonio now?

[weebo]

Yeah, its worse than flu, but it's not ebola.

What?? CV19 has killed +50K US citizens...ebola claimed 2.

[hater]

What?? CV19 has killed +50K US citizens...ebola claimed 2.

:lol

I think I get his point yeah Ebola has 60% death rate. but still this is much worse for our population as its near
impossible to trace due to asymptomatic spreaders.

ebola was comparatively easy to spot and cut off infection.

in other words while ebola plays chess this virus plays 4D chess

[hater]

What?? CV19 has killed +50K US citizens...ebola claimed 2.

:lol

I think I get his point yeah Ebola has 60% death rate. but still this is much worse for our population as its near
impossible to trace due to asymptomatic spreaders.

ebola was comparatively easy to spot and cut off infection.

in other words while ebola plays chess this virus plays 4D chess

[DarrinS]

What?? CV19 has killed +50K US citizens...ebola claimed 2.

Ebola has a 90% CFR. Luckily, not many Americans contracted it.

[hater]

if this was a game ebola would be the 1st boss batyle

covid19 would be end game boss

[ChumpDumper]

Ebola has a 90% CFR. Luckily, not many Americans contracted it.Ebola was taken seriously.

58,000 American citizens dead and the highest government officials can't be bothered to set even the most basic example.

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[DarrinS]

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/blame-bill-de-blasio/

[hater]

good news for a change Bolsohitler under corruption probe

hopefully this is the end for him

https://twitter.com/brunohconte/status/1255208957519572992?s=21

[vy65]

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/blame-bill-de-blasio/

Buffoons like Di Blasio are why its important to not have even bigger buffoons like Trump

[SnakeBoy]

Ebola was taken seriously.

58,000 American citizens dead and the highest government officials can't be bothered to set even the most basic example.

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Pence the only one listening to science in that picture

[boutons_deux]

From the Irish Times
April 25, 2020
By Fintan O’Toole

THE WORLD HAS LOVED, HATED AND ENVIED THE U.S.

NOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME,

WE PITY IT

Over more than two centuries, the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the US until now: pity.

However bad things are for most other rich democracies, it is hard not to feel sorry for Americans. Most of them did not vote for Donald Trump in 2016. Yet they are locked down with a malignant narcissist who, instead of protecting his people from Covid-19, has amplified its lethality. The country Trump promised to make great again has never in its history seemed so pitiful.

Will American prestige ever recover from this shameful episode? The US went into the coronavirus crisis with immense advantages: precious weeks of warning about what was coming, the world’s best concentration of medical and scientific expertise, effectively limitless financial resources, a military complex with stunning logistical capacity and most of the world’s leading technology corporations. Yet it managed to make itself the global epicentre of the pandemic.

As the American writer George Packer puts it in the current edition of the Atlantic, “The United States reacted ... like Pakistan or Belarus – like a country with shoddy infrastructure and a dysfunctional government whose leaders were too corrupt or stupid to head off mass suffering.”

It is one thing to be powerless in the face of a natural disaster, quite another to watch vast power being squandered in real time – wilfully, malevolently, vindictively. It is one thing for governments to fail (as, in one degree or another, most governments did), quite another to watch a ruler and his supporters actively spread a deadly virus. Trump, his party and Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News became vectors of the pestilence.

The grotesque spectacle of the president openly inciting people (some of them armed) to take to the streets to oppose the restrictions that save lives is the manifestation of a political death wish. What are supposed to be daily briefings on the crisis, demonstrative of national unity in the face of a shared challenge, have been used by Trump merely to sow confusion and division. They provide a recurring horror show in which all the neuroses that haunt the American subconscious dance naked on live TV.

If the plague is a test, its ruling political nexus ensured that the US would fail it at a terrible cost in human lives. In the process, the idea of the US as the world’s leading nation – an idea that has shaped the past century – has all but evaporated.

Other than the Trump impersonator Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil, who is now looking to the US as the exemplar of anything other than what not to do? How many people in Düsseldorf or Dublin are wishing they lived in Detroit or Dallas?

It is hard to remember now but, even in 2017, when Trump took office, the conventional wisdom in the US was that the Republican Party and the broader framework of US political institutions would prevent him from doing too much damage. This was always a delusion, but the pandemic has exposed it in the most savage ways.

Abject surrender

What used to be called mainstream conservatism has not absorbed Trump – he has absorbed it. Almost the entire right-wing half of American politics has surrendered abjectly to him. It has sacrificed on the altar of wanton stupidity the most basic ideas of responsibility, care and even safety.

Thus, even at the very end of March, 15 Republican governors had failed to order people to stay at home or to close non-essential businesses. In Alabama, for example, it was not until April 3rd that governor Kay Ivey finally issued a stay-at-home order.

In Florida, the state with the highest concentration of elderly people with underlying conditions, governor Ron DeSantis, a Trump mini-me, kept the beach resorts open to students travelling from all over the US for spring break parties. Even on April 1st, when he issued restrictions, DeSantis exempted religious services and “recreational activities”.

Georgia governor Brian Kemp, when he finally issued a stay-at-home order on April 1st, explained: “We didn’t know that [the virus can be spread by people without symptoms] until the last 24 hours.”

This is not mere ignorance – it is deliberate and homicidal stupidity. There is, as the demonstrations this week in US cities have shown, plenty of political mileage in denying the reality of the pandemic. It is fuelled by Fox News and far-right internet sites, and it reaps for these politicians millions of dollars in donations, mostly (in an ugly irony) from older people who are most vulnerable to the coronavirus.

It draws on a concoction of conspiracy theories, hatred of science, paranoia about the “deep state” and religious providentialism (God will protect the good folks) that is now very deeply infused in the mindset of the American right.

Trump embodies and enacts this mindset, but he did not invent it. The US response to the coronavirus crisis has been paralysed by a contradiction that the Republicans have inserted into the heart of US democracy. On the one hand, they want to control all the levers of governmental power. On the other they have created a popular base by playing on the notion that government is innately evil and must not be trusted.

The contradiction was made manifest in two of Trump’s statements on the pandemic: on the one hand that he has “total authority”, and on the other that “I don’t take responsibility at all”. Caught between authoritarian and anarchic impulses, he is incapable of coherence.

Fertile ground

But this is not just Donald Trump. The crisis has shown definitively that Trump’s presidency is not an aberration. It has grown on soil long prepared to receive it. The monstrous blossoming of misrule has structure and purpose and strategy behind it.

There are very powerful interests who demand “freedom” in order to do as they like with the environment, society and the economy. They have infused a very large part of American culture with the belief that “freedom” is literally more important than life. My freedom to own assault weapons trumps your right not to get shot at school. Now, my freedom to go to the barber (“I Need a Haircut” read one banner this week in St Paul, Minnesota) trumps your need to avoid infection.

Usually when this kind of outlandish idiocy is displaying itself, there is the comforting thought that, if things were really serious, it would all stop. People would sober up. Instead, a large part of the US has hit the bottle even harder.

And the president, his party and their media allies keep supplying the drinks. There has been no moment of truth, no shock of realisation that the antics have to end. No one of any substance on the US right has stepped in to say: get a grip, people are dying here.

That is the mark of how deep the trouble is for the US – it is not just that Trump has treated the crisis merely as a way to feed tribal hatreds but that this behaviour has become normalised. When the freak show is live on TV every evening, and the star is boasting about his ratings, it is not really a freak show any more. For a very large and solid bloc of Americans, it is reality.

And this will get worse before it gets better. Trump has at least eight more months in power. In his inaugural address in 2017, he evoked “American carnage” and promised to make it stop. But now that the real carnage has arrived, he is revelling in it. He is in his element.

As things get worse, he will pump more hatred and falsehood, more death-wish defiance of reason and decency, into the groundwater.

If a new administration succeeds him in 2021, it will have to clean up the toxic dump he leaves behind.

If he is re-elected, toxicity will have become the lifeblood of American politics.

Either way, it will be a long time before the rest of the world can imagine America being great again."

[ChumpDumper]

Pence the only one listening to science in that pictureHe's in the fucking Mayo Clinic, dipshit.

You've lost your mind trying to defend Trump.

[SnakeBoy]

He's in the fucking Mayo Clinic, dipshit.

You've lost your mind trying to defend Trump.

Masks don't work. Experts have told us this for many years.

Pence listening to experts. Every one else just scared.

[ChumpDumper]

Masks don't work. Experts have told us this for many years.

Pence listening to experts. Every one else just scared.Does your wife wear a mask when she's in the hospital?

[Spurtacular]

Ebola was taken seriously.

58,000 American citizens dead and the highest government officials can't be bothered to set even the most basic example.

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Oh, the humanity!

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Chump mad that Trump is projecting strength.:lmao:lmao:lmao

There is not a weaker man in the country.

[picnroll]

This thing is just going to be everywhere. yikes.

Some viruses have what’s called privileged sites where they persist even if the patient develops immunity. Common sites are vitreous fluid of the eye, cerebrospinal fluid, testes.

[RandomGuy]

And house cats.

and ferrets apparently. One had a fever they suspect was due to this thing.

[baseline bum]

Some viruses have what’s called privileged sites where they persist even if the patient develops immunity. Common sites are vitreous fluid of the eye, cerebrospinal fluid, testes.

So I can tell people I'm jacking off to protect from the coronavirus?

[TimDunkem]

Aww fuck. Not the ferrets too. :(

[Spurminator]

Ebola was taken seriously.

58,000 American citizens dead and the highest government officials can't be bothered to set even the most basic example.

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I support his decision to put himself at greater risk and I hope he meets with the President very soon.

[TimDunkem]

Does your wife wear a mask when she's in the hospital?

She's a medical professional? :lmao

[baseline bum]

Ebola was taken seriously.

58,000 American citizens dead and the highest government officials can't be bothered to set even the most basic example.

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What a piece of shit. As expected from the GOP.

[baseline bum]

Masks don't work. Experts have told us this for many years.

Pence listening to experts. Every one else just scared.

Masks don't catch a significant portion of water droplets you expel?

[Splits]

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weak elbow bump, 2 of those 3 covid patients were within arm's reach

[clambake]

Trump would have a baby if pence wears a mask in public

[ChumpDumper]

Masks don't work.PPE problem solved! SnakeBoy says masks don't work at all anywhere in any way.

[SnakeBoy]

Masks don't catch a significant portion of water droplets you expel?

Droplets yes, aerosols no

Science has been telling you for years that they do not work.

[SnakeBoy]

PPE problem solved! SnakeBoy says masks don't work at all anywhere in any way.

Strawman

[RandomGuy]

1255204275820658690

weak elbow bump, 2 of those 3 covid patients were within arm's reach

Let's just hope Pence breathes all over Trump next time they meet.

Sweet.

[Spurminator]

Droplets yes, aerosols no

Science has been telling you for years that they do not work.

As a capitalist, I support a business' right to set its own safety rules.

The Mayo Clinic has a policy requiring masks. The VP ignored it. I suppose a fascist would support this.

[ChumpDumper]

StrawmanSo they do work?

Pick a lane.

Why do the experts at Mayo have a mask policy? What is your expertise to say those experts are wrong?

[RandomGuy]

Strawman


Masks don't work.

No qualifiers. Categorical denial.

:lol Sarcastic defense

[Splits]

presser...

Q: has there been a story that has touched you in these 54k deaths?

Trump: Yes, it's a horrible death

[Spurminator]

presser...

Q: has there been a story that has touched you in these 54k deaths?

Trump: Yes, it's a horrible death

He's having a presser today?

I figured given the rave reviews of yesterday's cancelation, he would have done that again.

[Splits]

He's having a presser today?

I figured given the rave reviews of yesterday's cancelation, he would have done that again.

Also gave a doozy of an answer to forcing the meat plants to stay open, shutdown was ravaging the plant owners. I'll find the clips and post em...

[RandomGuy]

presser...

Q: has there been a story that has touched you in these 54k deaths?

Trump: Yes, it's a horrible death

Maybe we could inject the dead? or maybe take parts of them internally? up the butt with doctor to help...? Dr. Brix?

[Spurs Homer]

Ebola was taken seriously.

58,000 American citizens dead and the highest government officials can't be bothered to set even the most basic example.

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trump and pence have the antidote

they are not worried at all

[Splits]

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[baseline bum]

Droplets yes, aerosols no

Science has been telling you for years that they do not work.

No one gives a shit if Pence breaths an aerosol and gets it, people are concerned about Pence expelling droplets. He and Trump never seem to wear these masks that everyone should be using.

[RandomGuy]

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/blame-bill-de-blasio/


This was mayor-from-Jaws-level happy talk, times a thousand. The two leaders’ science experts were horrified by what de Blasio and Cuomo were saying, according to the New Yorker piece. A former head of the city’s Department of Health told the magazine that there’s always a divide between political appointees and public-health professionals, “who sometimes have to make unpopular recommendations. But, with the de Blasio people, that antagonism is ten times worse. They are so much more impossible to work with than other administrations.”

Certainly seems to be a huge blunder.

Can you sum up what Deblasios blunder what tho. Just want to see if you get what you are posting here.

[SnakeBoy]

No qualifiers. Categorical denial.

:lol Sarcastic defense

The qualifier is the context

We aren't talking about donning and doffing PPE according to strict protocols between every single encounter

Provide the science that disproves the science we have been told for years up until a month ago

They've just done this about-face to make the scared public feel better after don't touch your face didn't work.

Mike Pence is a champion of science

[ChumpDumper]

No one gives a shit if Pence breaths an aerosol and gets it, people are concerned about Pence expelling droplets. He and Trump never seem to wear these masks that everyone should be using.SnakeBoy got bullied into not wearing his mask by peer pressure.

[boutons_deux]

"Droplets yes, aerosols no"

your so-called info is stale

[ChumpDumper]

The qualifier is the context

We aren't talking about donning and doffing PPE according to strict protocols between every single encounter

Provide the science that disproves the science we have been told for years up until a month ago

They've just done this about-face to make the scared public feel better after don't touch your face didn't work.

Mike Pence is a champion of scienceAll you said was masks don't work.

Period.

[SnakeBoy]

No one gives a shit if Pence breaths an aerosol and gets it, people are concerned about Pence expelling droplets. He and Trump never seem to wear these masks that everyone should be using.

A little surgical mask won't stop the aerosols in either direction

Science

[Splits]

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lmao the DMC argument

[Spurminator]

VP doing more theater for the rubes.

Same thing as the football game stunt. The rubes are so easy.

[ChumpDumper]

A little surgical mask won't stop the aerosols in either direction

ScienceSo masks do stop droplets?

Tell me the science.

[baseline bum]

A little surgical mask won't stop the aerosols in either direction

Science

I just said I was talking about fucking droplets man

[RandomGuy]

No one gives a shit if Pence breaths an aerosol and gets it, people are concerned about Pence expelling droplets. He and Trump never seem to wear these masks that everyone should be using.

I put the odds at about 1 that Trump gets this before the election.

https://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/happy-dance-.gif

[RandomGuy]

A little surgical mask won't stop the aerosols in either direction

Science

Maybe the surgical masks will make White Millienials Flee the Democratic Party.

[RandomGuy]

I just said I was talking about fucking droplets man

Maybe he has the wrong animal as a totem.

https://www.itsnature.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/mustela-frenata-2.jpg

[Splits]

I put the odds at about 1 that Trump gets this before the election.

https://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/happy-dance-.gif

I legit spent 5 minutes trying to find a site taking that bet, no luck

[RandomGuy]

Masks don't work. Experts have told us this for many years.

Pence listening to experts. Every one else just scared.

Leader of Coronavirus Task force visits a Corona patient.

https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox10phoenix.com/www.fox10phoenix.com/content/uploads/2020/04/932/524/pence-mayo-no-mask.jpg

:lmao

I
n the study, the use of surgical masks by sufferers significantly reduced the number of flu viruses detectable in droplets released through breathing and coughing.

It also reduced the number of seasonal coronaviruses - among the causes of common colds - detectable in the air as suspended microdroplets, or aerosols. The study did not look at the new coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2. ...
The research, published in the journal Nature Medicine, coincides with the pandemic of COVID-19 respiratory disease, which has infected more than a million people worldwide and killed more than 53,000.



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-masks-science-idUSKBN21L2BW

Unlikely to harm others, and some evidence that it could help.

Cost to benefit seems clear.

Seems reasonable and ethical to protect others, especially if I have it and don't know.

But hey, be a fucking dick.

We all know you are one already. That is the fact of modern conservatism. "how can I be an enormous prick today?" You guys probably have daily calendars with suggestions.

[RandomGuy]

I legit spent 5 minutes trying to find a site taking that bet, no luck

Heh. Be an instant hit. Surprised there isn't one already.

Bet you there will be a bet on that online before November. heh.

[Splits]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWsK9KVXkAUC7vq?format=jpg&name=large (http://www.healthdata.org/covid/updates)

:lmao this model, which is the WH model

[boutons_deux]

above 75K deaths, no more deaths? C19 dying just stops?

[Splits]

Leader of Coronavirus Task force visits a Corona patient.

https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox10phoenix.com/www.fox10phoenix.com/content/uploads/2020/04/932/524/pence-mayo-no-mask.jpg

:lmao

I

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-masks-science-idUSKBN21L2BW

Unlikely to harm others, and some evidence that it could help.

Cost to benefit seems clear.

Seems reasonable and ethical to protect others, especially if I have it and don't know.

But hey, be a fucking dick.

We all know you are one already. That is the fact of modern conservatism. "how can I be an enormous prick today?" You guys probably have daily calendars with suggestions.

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[Blake]

1255223669451821056

lmao the DMC argument

Ivanka is missing the hoodie in order to complete the pink hazmat suit ensemble

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/Crimealytics/status/1255182270756945930

[TimDunkem]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWsK9KVXkAUC7vq?format=jpg&name=large (http://www.healthdata.org/covid/updates)

:lmao this model, which is the WH model

:lmao As states start to reopen no less.

We'll be there in a couple of weeks.

[hater]

A little surgical mask won't stop the aerosols in either direction

Science

the ratio of droplets to aerosol is huge. I posted a german study in this thread that says masks protect up to 90% (not the wearer but the public)

and a mask made from vaccum bags has good degree of protection for wearer an N95 even better

there are degrees of protection that we all can employ and if everyone does it the degree of protection grows exponentially

science

[Splits]

:lmao As states start to reopen no less.

We'll be there in a couple of weeks.

nm

75k by 12 May

[spurraider21]

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he said he gets tested frequently, and as he doesnt have the virus, he's not a risk to spread it.

[picnroll]

he said he gets tested frequently, and as he doesnt have the virus, he's not a risk to spread it.
He has, however, demonstrated the ability to spread stupidity.

[RandomGuy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWsK9KVXkAUC7vq?format=jpg&name=large (http://www.healthdata.org/covid/updates)

:lmao this model, which is the WH model

We will totally have this beat by the end of June is what this graph says. Holee fuck these people are lying and dangerous lies at that.

... and when that doesn't happen, this is another lie to rub TSA's nose in.

[RandomGuy]

He has, however, demonstrated the ability to spread stupidity.

Trump has a bad case of Stupidvid-20 and that is definitely contagious.






... to idiots.

[ChumpDumper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWsK9KVXkAUC7vq?format=jpg&name=large (http://www.healthdata.org/covid/updates)

:lmao this model, which is the WH modelThe last two projection changes have been upward. This revision alone is about 9000 higher than last week's.

[RandomGuy]

A little surgical mask won't stop the aerosols in either direction

Science


the ratio of droplets to aerosol is huge. I posted a german study in this thread that says masks protect up to 90% (not the wearer but the public)

and a mask made from vaccum bags has good degree of protection for wearer an N95 even better

there are degrees of protection that we all can employ and if everyone does it the degree of protection grows exponentially

science

Snakeboy getting dunked on by hater. I did not think I would ever see anything like that. SB, you are not going to live this one down. This makes your thread on fake millenials leaving the Democratic party pale in comparison.

[baseline bum]

We will totally have this beat by the end of June is what this graph says. Holee fuck these people are lying and dangerous lies at that.

... and when that doesn't happen, this is another lie to rub TSA's nose in.

Graph says we'll have it beat by June 1st. The thought of only being at 74,000 dead by June 1st is laughable enough.

[slick'81]

Were all going down with the ship

[RandomGuy]

The last two projection changes have been upward. This revision alone is about 9000 higher than last week's.

NY will start to tamp down about the time all the case from those meat packing plants nail rural america. It is already there, but the lack of testing is hiding the extent.

They have done some analysis and have found a very sudden spike in deaths for non-covid causes. a very very very suspicious spike. a totally abnormal, outside of statistical possibility spike.

It is there, in the rest of the country, killing people already.

That lack of testing means there will be a lag until we realize that. 300k by EOY.

That assume around 2000k per day on average for the remainder of the year. Lockdowns will keep it from getting worse. Some plucky die hard Trumpista state will go balls out re-opening and pay the price, with a solid kick in the nuts.

Looking like Texas will be that candidate. Fuck. I wish I could stay in Missouri, and move my family here...

[Reck]

There were less than a thousand new patients admitted to the hospitals yesterday. First time since this whole thing started here.

[slick'81]

There were less than a thousand new patients admitted to the hospitals yesterday. First time since this whole thing started here.


Jesus. I mean you gotta start somewhere

[boutons_deux]

Airborne Coronavirus Detected in Wuhan Hospitals


While the RNA of the virus was found in tiny droplets in China,

scientists don’t know if it was capable of transmitting the virus.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/health/coronavirus-hospital-aerosols.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/health/coronavirus-hospital-aerosols.html)

[SnakeBoy]

Snakeboy getting dunked on by hater. I did not think I would ever see anything like that. SB, you are not going to live this one down. This makes your thread on fake millenials leaving the Democratic party pale in comparison.

lol You think a couple of recent anecdotes counters decades of expert advice

[DarrinS]

Published Nov. 15, 2019



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jhz0pVSKtI

[hater]

lol You think a couple of recent anecdotes counters decades of expert advice

not sure what you mean but its all logic in the end.

just like basketball. you take the easy shots and you guard the easy shots. sure you are not guaranteed to win the game but if you are consistent and stay with the basics you have a damn good chance

same thing with masks, protection, distancing tbqh

I already been calling it for months. everyone in USA will wear a mask in public out of sign of respect and cleanliness

called it

[ChumpDumper]

not sure what you mean but its all logic in the end.

just like basketball. you take the easy shots and you guard the easy shots. sure you are not guaranteed to win the game but if you are consistent and stay with the basics you have a damn good chance

same thing with masks, protection, distancing tbqh

I already been calling it for months. everyone in USA will wear a mask in public out of sign of respect and cleanliness

called itDon't mind SnakeBoy. His ego has taken such a beating since Trump failed he's resorting to false bravado by his manliest of proxies....Mike Pence.:lol

[slick'81]

not sure what you mean but its all logic in the end.

just like basketball. you take the easy shots and you guard the easy shots. sure you are not guaranteed to win the game but if you are consistent and stay with the basics you have a damn good chance

same thing with masks, protection, distancing tbqh

I already been calling it for months. everyone in USA will wear a mask in public out of sign of respect and cleanliness

called it


But have you rallied the neighbors hate? Have they bought in?

[boutons_deux]

https://twitter.com/Crimealytics/status/1255182270756945930

so what? 27K cases, 1800 dead in LA

NOLA got bombed with Mardi Gras then got smart.

What are your policy recommendations for NOLA? Laissez les bons temps rouler, encore?

[hater]

But have you rallied the neighbors hate? Have they bought in?

its a free country. in the end its like crossing the street, you better look both ways or you can get run the fuck over.

[SnakeBoy]

Don't mind SnakeBoy. His ego has taken such a beating since Trump failed he's resorting to false bravado by his manliest of proxies....Mike Pence.:lol

Not at all I continue to be based in reality while most of you embrace fantasy out of fear and cuz Trump

All these decades of vaccine and antiviral research and all we needed was a face mask to eliminate respiratory viruses...it's fantasy

[ChumpDumper]

Not at all I continue to be based in reality while most of you embrace fantasy out of fear and cuz Trump

All these decades of vaccine and antiviral research and all we needed was a face mask to eliminate respiratory viruses...it's fantasyStraw man.


Seriously dude, quit digging yourself deeper in your hole of shame. You're not going back in time to reverse Trump's failure or your embarrassment for going all in on him. It's done. There is no coming back for you.

[RandomGuy]

lol You think a couple of recent anecdotes counters decades of expert advice

I think a new study with better information counters older evidence, especially if that evidence is merely anecdotal. That is how science works.

You got dunked on by hater. Own it.

[DarrinS]

Published Nov. 15, 2019



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jhz0pVSKtI



I guess I'm the only one who is creeped the fuck out by how prophetic this video is?

[RandomGuy]

not sure what you mean but its all logic in the end.

just like basketball. you take the easy shots and you guard the easy shots. sure you are not guaranteed to win the game but if you are consistent and stay with the basics you have a damn good chance

same thing with masks, protection, distancing tbqh

I already been calling it for months. everyone in USA will wear a mask in public out of sign of respect and cleanliness

called it

WTF. You need to stop making sense, it is seriously fucking with my world view. :lol Snakeboy

[Blake]

I guess I'm the only one who is creeped the fuck out by how prophetic this video is?

Watch the Netflix documentary. Bill Gates called it in February'19

[midnightpulp]

https://nypost.com/2020/04/27/ive-worked-the-coronavirus-front-line-and-i-say-its-time-to-start-opening-up/

I agree that we should start opening up elective surgeries. The closure of those never made sense to me since having a surgery promptly to remove or cancer tumor before it metastasizes saves a life all the same.

But remember, this doctor isn't an epidemiologist and I highly disagree with this idea, which will be trumpeted by conservatives in the coming weeks:


The way this transpired tells me the ebb and flow had more to do with the natural course of the outbreak than it did with the lockdown.

The difference between an R0 of 1.95 (1 person infects another 2) and 2.95 is staggering (1 person infects another 3). Doesn't seem like much at first glance. "Big deal. So one more person gets infected with an R0 of 3." But shaving off that extra one person from the factor cuts down the exponential growth an unbelievable amount that just seems impossible.

http://gabgoh.github.io/COVID/index.html

An R0 of 1.95 translates to a death toll of 4935 over 200 days in a country the size of the US.
An R0 of 2.95 translates to a death toll of over 1.8 million over 200 days.

The curve is bending because we are reducing the R0, not because the virus magically has a "natural curve." It just doesn't seem like it because reducing the factor by even a little bit has big consequences. I've seen a lot of chatter by the usual conservative suspects that because we've avoided the "doomsday" scenario so far, the lethality of the virus must be overstated. Again, it's because the measures we're employing really do curtail exponential growth by an unbelievable amount, so in hindsight, it might look like things were overstated.

[hater]

Not at all I continue to be based in reality while most of you embrace fantasy out of fear and cuz Trump

All these decades of vaccine and antiviral research and all we needed was a face mask to eliminate respiratory viruses...it's fantasy

the only fantasy is you thinking we said masks eliminate respiratory illness

on my 3rd or 4th post in this thread I said masks wont do shit to stop this pandemic.

but some protection is always better than no protection. otherwise you would not see
the medics clamor for PPE

[RandomGuy]

I guess I'm the only one who is creeped the fuck out by how prophetic this video is?

They have known about pandemics for forever.

This is basic epidemiology.

And yes. this is eerily prescient.

[DarrinS]

Watch the Netflix documentary. Bill Gates called it in February'19

Don't you mean 2015?

Anyhow, that video seems to describe the traits of sars-cov-2 that make it so hard to deal with. Namely, long incubation and asymptomatic spreaders.

[SnakeBoy]

the only fantasy is you thinking we said masks eliminate respiratory illness

on my 3rd or 4th post in this thread I said masks wont do shit to stop this pandemic.

but some protection is always better than no protection. otherwise you would not see
the medics clamor for PPE

You just admitted the masks don't do shit

The virus will run it's course as I have said

Called it

[clambake]

I guess I'm the only one who is creeped the fuck out by how prophetic this video is?

Doesn’t matter what it is if trump ignores it for 2 months

This president has been a colossal fuck up for the ages


Posterity

[hater]

You just admitted the masks don't do shit

The virus will run it's course as I have said

Called it

its not about run its course but the pace. thats why we are quarantining. so the virus doesnt run its course and devastate our medical services.

using protection will slow the pace and in many cases protect people from it. PPE does protect. otherwise no medical doctor would wear any tbqh

[Reck]

Snakeboy getting schooled by Hater now. :lol its getting ugly

[hater]

Snakeboy getting schooled by Hater now. :lol its getting ugly

huh? Ive schooled pretty much everyone on this board throughout the years including you countless times nig :lol

this thread is living proof when it comes to schooling Im a PHD and ya nigs freshmen

I school d you so much in particular you need to pay me tuition fees ma nig :lmao

[Reck]

huh? Ive schooled pretty much everyone on this board throughout the years including you countless times nig :lol

this thread is living proof when it comes to schooling Im a PHD and ya nigs freshmen

I school d you so much in particular you need to pay me tuition fees ma nig :lmao

Cashapp my nigga?

[Blake]

Don't you mean 2015?

Anyhow, that video seems to describe the traits of sars-cov-2 that make it so hard to deal with. Namely, long incubation and asymptomatic spreaders.

Dunno about 2015. The interview with Bill sitting, talking about the inevitable pandemic virus coming was done last year.

[DarrinS]

Dunno about 2015. The interview with Bill sitting, talking about the inevitable pandemic virus coming was done last year.

Nevermind, I was talking about his 2015 TED talk.

[slick'81]

I guess I'm the only one who is creeped the fuck out by how prophetic this video is?


We all know this is how it ends D. No more food,ufo's exist,shitty leadership,thousands dying daily and an invisible enemy

[TSA]

The Mesa City Police Department's homicide division is investigating the death of Gary Lenius, the Arizona man whose wife served him soda mixed with fish tank cleaner in what she claimed was a bid to fend off the coronavirus. A detective handling the case confirmed the investigation to the Washington Free Beacon on Tuesday after requesting a recording of the Free Beacon's interviews with Lenius's wife, Wanda.

Gary Lenius, 68, died on March 22. Wanda, 61, told several news outlets last month that both she and her husband had ingested a substance used to clean aquariums after hearing President Donald Trump tout one of its ingredients, chloroquine phosphate, from the White House briefing room.

Detective Teresa Van Galder, the homicide detective handling the case for the Mesa City Police Department, confirmed that the investigation is ongoing but declined to provide additional details.

https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/police-investigating-death-of-arizona-man-from-chloroquine-phosphate/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Over/under on the same networks who blamed Trump for his death reporting that he was murdered if it turns out he was

[ChumpDumper]

The Mesa City Police Department's homicide division is investigating the death of Gary Lenius, the Arizona man whose wife served him soda mixed with fish tank cleaner in what she claimed was a bid to fend off the coronavirus. A detective handling the case confirmed the investigation to the Washington Free Beacon on Tuesday after requesting a recording of the Free Beacon's interviews with Lenius's wife, Wanda.

Gary Lenius, 68, died on March 22. Wanda, 61, told several news outlets last month that both she and her husband had ingested a substance used to clean aquariums after hearing President Donald Trump tout one of its ingredients, chloroquine phosphate, from the White House briefing room.

Detective Teresa Van Galder, the homicide detective handling the case for the Mesa City Police Department, confirmed that the investigation is ongoing but declined to provide additional details.

https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/police-investigating-death-of-arizona-man-from-chloroquine-phosphate/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Over/under on the same networks who blamed Trump for his death reporting that he was murdered if it turns out he was58,000 deaths of Americans are truly just a statistic to you.

[Blake]

The Mesa City Police Department's homicide division is investigating the death of Gary Lenius, the Arizona man whose wife served him soda mixed with fish tank cleaner in what she claimed was a bid to fend off the coronavirus. A detective handling the case confirmed the investigation to the Washington Free Beacon on Tuesday after requesting a recording of the Free Beacon's interviews with Lenius's wife, Wanda.

Gary Lenius, 68, died on March 22. Wanda, 61, told several news outlets last month that both she and her husband had ingested a substance used to clean aquariums after hearing President Donald Trump tout one of its ingredients, chloroquine phosphate, from the White House briefing room.

Detective Teresa Van Galder, the homicide detective handling the case for the Mesa City Police Department, confirmed that the investigation is ongoing but declined to provide additional details.

https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/police-investigating-death-of-arizona-man-from-chloroquine-phosphate/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Over/under on the same networks who blamed Trump for his death reporting that he was murdered if it turns out he was

"Freebeacon.com" is an extreme far right medium. I have no idea what you're trying to say.

[SnakeBoy]

Snakeboy getting schooled by Hater now. :lol its getting ugly

Was it the part were he said masks don't work or the part where he said masks do work?

[ChumpDumper]

Was it the part were he said masks don't work or the part where he said masks do work?The part where he called out your straw man.

[Play Boban]

Build the wall to keep the virus out tbh

[Play Boban]

58,000 deaths of Americans are truly just a statistic to you.
Numbers are numbers per par

[Blake]

Build the wall to keep the virus out tbh

We'll make China pay for it

[ChumpDumper]

Numbers are numbers per parWhat does that mean?

[Play Boban]

We'll make China pay for it
We should tbh. Or at least erueope

[Play Boban]

What does that mean?
A statistic is meaningless. I could say the Chinese virus healed 100,000 Americans yesterday and you’d be none them wiser. It’s meaningless per par.

[Play Boban]

It’s funny how the virus has infected so many and yet none of us know anyone who has it. It makes you wonder doesn’t it tbqh.

[ChumpDumper]

A statistic is meaningless. I could say the Chinese virus healed 100,000 Americans yesterday and you’d be none them wiser. It’s meaningless per par.58,000 dead American citizens are meaningless to you.

[Play Boban]

58,000 dead American citizens are meaningless to you.
It’s just a number on a screen isn’t it tbh? Prove it

[ChumpDumper]

It’s just a number on a screen isn’t it tbh? Prove itProve what?

[Play Boban]

I want to move to Asia now tbh they deal with virus much better there

[Play Boban]

Prove what?
What does 58,000 mean? If it were 580,000 what difference would it make? All I see are numbers

[slick'81]

It’s funny how the virus has infected so many and yet none of us know anyone who has it. It makes you wonder doesn’t it tbqh.


Not really. A few on here claimed to have or thought they have already been infected. Out of 300 or soo million i dont think a few hundred of us is a good indication

[ChumpDumper]

What does 58,000 mean? If it were 580,000 what difference would it make? All I see are numbersOh.

[Play Boban]

Oh.
R u saying anumner is not a number

[Play Boban]

Not really. A few on here claimed to have or thought they have already been infected. Out of 300 or soo million i dont think a few hundred of us is a good indication
We are the world the world is us

[ChumpDumper]

R u saying anumner is not a numberI don't know what an anumner is tbh.

[Blake]

We should tbh. Or at least erueope

It'll be a beautiful wall that everyone will say is beautiful. A giant mask around America made here in America but we will make sure the Germans and Chinese pay for the China virus wall. It'll like great Wall of China but it'll be a great great Wall of America. I've been to the Mall of America. Fantastic place. We've talked to China, had a great conversation about it.

[Play Boban]

I don't know what an anumner is tbh.
Learn to reed tbh

[Play Boban]

It'll be a beautiful wall that everyone will say is beautiful. A giant mask around America made here in America but we will make sure the Germans and Chinese pay for the China virus. We've talked to China, had a great conversation about it.
I agree with this make America great again

[Play Boban]

Some of you need Lysol 8niectiojs thh

[phxspurfan]

How some cities ‘flattened the curve’ during the 1918 flu pandemic

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it

[slick'81]

How some cities ‘flattened the curve’ during the 1918 flu pandemic

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it

basically responsibilty and willingness. Most of which the usa has seem to forgotten

[clambake]

Some of you need Lysol 8niectiojs thh

Is ducks your father?

[Splits]

Graph says we'll have it beat by June 1st. The thought of only being at 74,000 dead by June 1st is laughable enough.

Try May 10th

[Splits]

June 1 we will be at 100k

[boutons_deux]

"Freebeacon.com" is an extreme far right medium. I have no idea what you're trying to say.

TSA is relishing the possibility that the lady murdered her husband, as is being investigated by fucking AZ police, thereby absolving Trash of his responsibility for selling HCQ snake oil, ignoring the question of why the lady chose Trash's "HCQ", from all the other poisons she could have chosen.

[boutons_deux]

Airline catering workers are getting infected and hospitalized at a high rate, union says









Airlines are carrying only a fraction of the passengers they did before the coronavirus pandemic struck, but

thousands of airline catering workers are still on the job, preparing meals, packaging snack boxes, filling carts with drinks —

and loading them on planes flying all over the world.

This largely hidden workforce,

made up primarily of immigrants and people of color, many of whom can’t afford health insurance, is at great risk of contracting the virus,

according to one of the unions that represent them.

And that also means the passengers they’re feeding could be at higher risk, too.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/04/28/nation/airline-catering-workers-getting-infected-hospitalized-high-rate-union-says/?s_campaign=breakingnews:newsletter

[FrostKing]

Airline catering workers are getting infected and hospitalized at a high rate, union says









Airlines are carrying only a fraction of the passengers they did before the coronavirus pandemic struck, but

thousands of airline catering workers are still on the job, preparing meals, packaging snack boxes, filling carts with drinks —

and loading them on planes flying all over the world.

This largely hidden workforce,

made up primarily of immigrants and people of color, many of whom can’t afford health insurance, is at great risk of contracting the virus,

according to one of the unions that represent them.

And that also means the passengers they’re feeding could be at higher risk, too.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/04/28/nation/airline-catering-workers-getting-infected-hospitalized-high-rate-union-says/?s_campaign=breakingnews:newsletter






Still doing this routine?

Atleast you have learned the effectiveness of a catchy quote.

[hater]

this is crazy. some ppl seem to keep the virus for months. Or somehow the virus goes inactive qnd then comes back on its own inside the body :wow

https://twitter.com/juvefcdotcom/status/1255411762352009216?s=21

[FrostKing]

this is crazy. some ppl seem to keep the virus for months. Or somehow the virus goes inactive qnd then comes back on its own inside the body :wow

https://twitter.com/juvefcdotcom/status/1255411762352009216?s=21
Still associating with infected. Write it down, he's gonna complain later about lung issues

[slick'81]

The only reason the U.S. has reported one million cases of CoronaVirus is that our Testing is sooo much better than any other country in the World. Other countries are way behind us in Testing, and therefore show far fewer cases!
Twitter · donald trump 8 hours ago

[hater]

Still associating with infected. Write it down, he's gonna complain later about lung issues

hes been quarantining for 40’days

[picnroll]

Gilead says shorter remdesivir regimen is effective and drug met main goal in government study
Published: April 29, 2020 at 8:57 a.m. ET

Gilead Sciences Inc. GILD, -1.53% on Wednesday morning announced data from two clinical trials testing its experimental drug remdesivir in severely ill COVID-19 patients. The drugmaker's stock was halted in premarket trading on Wednesday in advance of company disclosures about remdesivir's performance in the studies. Gilead said an open-label Phase 3 trial testing the therapy in severely ill patients found that those taking a 5-day or 10-day course of treatment led to similar results. At least 52% of participants taking either dosing regimen were discharged from the hospital after 14 days of treatment, and at least 53% of those patients were reported as reaching "clinical recovery." "Multiple concurrent studies are helping inform whether remdesivir is a safe and effective treatment for COVID-19," Gilead chief medical officer Merdad Parsey said in a statement. "The study demonstrates the potential for some patients to be treated with a 5-day regimen, which could significantly expand the number of patients who could be treated with our current supply of remdesivir." Minutes before this topline data was released, Gilead also said that a government-run clinical trial evaluating remdesivir in severely ill COVID-19 patients met the study's primary endpoint. That study is being conducted by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which is expected to provide additional information about that trial, Gilead said. Gilead's stock has

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/gileads-stock-halted-says-remdesivir-met-primary-endpoint-in-government-study-2020-04-29

Data doesn’t really say much of what’s released in this without a placebo arm. Still waiting.

[RandomGuy]

The only reason the U.S. has reported one million cases of CoronaVirus is that our Testing is sooo much better than any other country in the World. Other countries are way behind us in Testing, and therefore show far fewer cases!
Twitter · donald trump 8 hours ago



Fucking idiot, talking to other fucking idiots.

[picnroll]

The only reason the U.S. has reported one million cases of CoronaVirus is that our Testing is sooo much better than any other country in the World. Other countries are way behind us in Testing, and therefore show far fewer cases!
Twitter · donald trump 8 hours ago



Yeah kind of funny how he never mentions testing per 100,000 people. Guess that doesn’t make as good a sound bite. His constituency certainly isn’t intelligent enough to understand though anyways.

[baseline bum]

Yeah kind of funny how he never mentions testing per 100,000 people. Guess that doesn’t make as good a sound bite. His constituency certainly isn’t intelligent enough to understand though anyways.

Sure he is. Trump isn't an idiot, he's a sociopath.

[picnroll]

Sure he is. Trump isn't an idiot, he's a sociopath.

I think Trump proves you can be both an idiot and a sociopath at the same time.

[baseline bum]

I think Trump proves you can be both an idiot and a sociopath at the same time.

He's not an idiot. No idiot could turn a lifetime of fuckups in business into an image of success that got him a TV show on NBC about what a great businessman he was. He is an extremely skilled conman who has convinced 30% of America that it's no big deal to get what will be on the order of 100,000 Americans killed.

[boutons_deux]

what's the cost of remdesivir ?

[RandomGuy]

June 1 we will be at 100k

Sounds about right. My gut says a bit before that. Especially if they look into that non-COVID spike that is probably also COVID.

This is for England/Wales:

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/coronavirus-shock-graphic-death-toll-covid-19-1269172.webp?r=1586946476698


"The blue line is 2020’s figures but just look at what happened in the week running up to April 3. An extra 6,000 people died in England and Wales.

"Of those 6,082 extra deaths, 3,475 mentioned COVID while 2,607 didn’t.

"One possibility is that COVID deaths are simply being missed."

Statistician David Spiegelhalter admitted to feeling "moved" when he saw the increasing death toll, as he suggested the increase in the number of non-coronavirus related deaths may be the result of little testing on people who died without being diagnosed with COVID-19.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1269172/Coronavirus-latest-graph-death-toll-spike-COVID-19-dead-lockdown-extension-news


So.... here is the US:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-stat/graphics/ai2html/graphic-virusdeathdata/ANV4FW4GYZGAJCHQAMRRPBBS5I/national-large.jpg?v=8


In the early weeks of the coronavirus epidemic, the United States recorded an estimated 15,400 excess deaths, nearly two times as many as were publicly attributed to covid-19 at the time, according to an analysis of federal data conducted for The Washington Post by a research team led by the Yale School of Public Health.

The excess deaths — the number beyond what would normally be expected for that time of year — occurred during March and through April 4, a time when 8,128 coronavirus deaths were reported.

The excess deaths are not necessarily attributable directly to covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus. They could include people who died because of the epidemic but not from the disease, such as those who were afraid to seek medical treatment for unrelated illnesses, as well as some number of deaths that are part of the ordinary variation in the death rate. The count is also affected by increases or decreases in other categories of deaths, such as suicides, homicides and motor vehicle accidents.

But in any pandemic, higher-than-normal mortality is a starting point for scientists seeking to understand the full impact of the disease.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/04/27/covid-19-death-toll-undercounted



It will be a political football, but kind of obvious to the non-cult members.

There is a non-zero chance it is above 100k now. Another months worth of data, and they can probably attribute this excess to the appropriate cause. Correlation is not causation, but you need to see the first before you can determine the latter.

[Winehole23]

Graph says we'll have it beat by June 1st. The thought of only being at 74,000 dead by June 1st is laughable enough.Fauci's 100,000- 240,000 range looks like it's on the conservative side.

[baseline bum]

Fauci's 100,000- 240,000 range looks like it's on the conservative side.

With the country opened up I'm starting to expect Osterholm's 400,000 dead prediction to be a lot more likely than only 100,000. Because it's not going to close again. Corporate America already got their bailout and Mnuchin can do it nine more times.

[TSA]

Wuhan lab 'most likely' coronavirus source, U.S. government analysis finds

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/28/wuhan-laboratory-most-likely-coronavirus-source-us/

[slick'81]

Wuhan lab 'most likely' coronavirus source, U.S. government analysis finds

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/28/wuhan-laboratory-most-likely-coronavirus-source-us/


makes sense....bio engineered chaos