Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[ElNono]

:lmao dr Falsuchi has flip flopped more than Arnold at the Terminator series :lol

If you had a cancer dr.as flip floppy as him youd be dead or immediatley run to another hospital.

I would actually argue the exact opposite. It would be a terrible sign if your doctor is not updating his views upon receiving new data and new information about a new disease, new variants, etc.

[boutons_deux]

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[boutons_deux]

Covid vaccine mandates are on the rise. Will that move the needle?

Vaccination requirements may capture more people who haven't yet been inoculated.

"Every little bit helps," a doctor said, but the true impact remains unclear.

Federal and state employers and some private businesses are edging closer to requiring workers to be vaccinated

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-vaccine-mandates-are-rise-will-move-needle-n1275340

Even slave-driver Amazon requiring masks in their sweatshops

[hater]

I would actually argue the exact opposite. It would be a terrible sign if your doctor is not updating his views upon receiving new data and new information about a new disease, new variants, etc.

Disagree 100% I would hope my dr has treated cancer patients successfully yet. And already has clear treatment. If there are lots of changes in treatment especially contradicting ones, thata sign of a shit doctor. Run. Run

[Winehole23]

I would actually argue the exact opposite. It would be a terrible sign if your doctor is not updating his views upon receiving new data and new information about a new disease, new variants, etc."a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"

[vy65]

Wishing billions of children and immunocompromised to die. (And every baby dead :lol that would mean end of civilization)

Nice, Hitler.

Children can’t be vaccinated yet you fucking Neanderthal. I’m talking about those who can be but choose not to.

[hater]

Children can’t be vaccinated yet you fucking Neanderthal. I’m talking about those who can be but choose not to.

You didnt say that, Einstein.

Be clear next time or you get another pimp slap.

[Xevious]

Disagree 100% I would hope my dr has treated cancer patients successfully yet. And already has clear treatment. If there are lots of changes in treatment especially contradicting ones, thata sign of a shit doctor. Run. Run
Cancer isn't two years old though.

[hater]

Cancer isn't two years old though.

Then Terminators opinion is shit :lol

[Ef-man]

One way to get rid of MAGAtards at work.


If your employer fires you because you won’t get the COVID vaccine, don’t expect to collect unemployment.

Each day more employers are telling employees they need to be vaccinated against COVID-19 to work in person or risk being fired.

In most states, individuals have to prove they’re out of work through no fault of their own to collect unemployment benefits.

“This often means that they are let go due to a lack of work,” said Alana Ackels, a labor and employment lawyer at Bell Nunnally, a Dallas-based law firm.

“Typically, an employee who is terminated for failing to comply with company policies is not eligible for unemployment benefits, which would include refusing to comply with a company’s COVID-19 prevention policies, masking requirements or vaccine requirements,” Ackels told MarketWatch.

But an employee who has proof of a medical exemption or religious objection to receiving a COVID-19 vaccine may still be eligible to collect unemployment benefits if fired, said Rebecca Dixon, executive director at the National Employment Law Project, a nonprofit that advocates for worker’s rights.

Otherwise, refusing to get a COVID-19 vaccine, if your employer requires one, “is akin to an employee’s refusal to submit to permissible drug tests or participate in safety trainings,” said Ronald Zambrano, employment law chair at West Coast Trial Lawyers, a Los Angeles–based law firm. That is, such an employee, when terminated, would not qualify for unemployment benefits, Zambrano said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/if-your-employer-fires-you-because-you-won-t-get-the-covid-vaccine-don-t-expect-to-collect-unemployment/ar-AAN1ItZ?ocid=msedgntp

[ElNono]

Disagree 100% I would hope my dr has treated cancer patients successfully yet. And already has clear treatment. If there are lots of changes in treatment especially contradicting ones, thata sign of a shit doctor. Run. Run

Disagree 100%. I want my doctor to look at the data to make decisions as not every case is the same, and I want my doctor up to date and changing his strategy as new information about cancer treatments comes about.

If your doctor is still handling cancer patients like it's 1920, run, run...

[Blake]

Disagree 100% I would hope my dr has treated cancer patients successfully yet. And already has clear treatment. If there are lots of changes in treatment especially contradicting ones, thata sign of a shit doctor. Run. Run

Covid treatment has barely been around for just over a year. Methods change fast like that in this time frame. If you don't understand that then you're really too stupid to understand much else about this.

[hater]

Disagree 100%. I want my doctor to look at the data to make decisions as not every case is the same, and I want my doctor up to date and changing his strategy as new information about cancer treatments comes about.

If your doctor is still handling cancer patients like it's 1920, run, run...

Lol if your dr is still studying data on Cancer you are in for a world.of hurt.

[pgardn]

Lol if your dr is still studying data on Cancer you are in for a world.of hurt.

We have been through this before.
A flip flop for hater is getting new reliable data, and changing your model.
This is how SCIENCE works.
Hater does not like the way science works. He wants it to as simple as possible at the expense of any accuracy.
This is virus is different, it has to be figured out, constantly. You just completely disregard the recent history of this whole ordeal and pretend like a change in course because of new info is a flip flop. "Oh lets just wait five years and let the house burn down, then we will figure out why it burned to the ground. Safety first!" You just dont get it. You either react immediately and compulsively with no thought whatsoever when it suits your politics, or say everything is just peachy in Russia, 23 years of harmony under Putin.

The problem is all you crave the politics of authoritarians and use this as your science.
You dont give two shits about people, stop it with your maudlin charade. You are deceitful dumbass.

[pgardn]

Lol if your dr is still studying data on Cancer you are in for a world.of hurt.

You have no idea that good doctors are ALWAYS working with and MUST take continuing education courses.
Good luck to you when you get sick and your doctor turns you upside down and bleeds you, George Washington style.
And maybe you actually survive and claim, it works! You dont understand data and you dont understand probability.
And you really dont understand the science of medicine.

[Winehole23]

cHiLdReN dOn'T gEt CovId


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8N_uwtXoAUI3j_?format=png&name=900x900

[Winehole23]

Iceland has had the whole kit and kaboodle: masking, social distancing, testing/tracing, travel restrictions, quarantine (and double testing for positives), national scale, real-time data collection -- as well as 93% of people over 16 fully vaccinated.

It looks like herd immunity isn't reachable with the current generation of vaccines. Info from Denmark reinforces the inference.

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[Winehole23]

The Serum Institute cancels herd immunity in Denmark: 'We can not achieve that' (http://The Serum Institute cancels herd immunity in Denmark: 'We can not achieve that')

[Xevious]

You have no idea that good doctors are ALWAYS working with and MUST take continuing education courses.
Good luck to you when you get sick and your doctor turns you upside down and bleeds you, George Washington style.
And maybe you actually survive and claim, it works! You dont understand data and you dont understand probability.
And you really dont understand the science of medicine.
Pretty much this. To say that medicine isn't always evolving is like saying IT has been stagnant for the last 30 years. Treatment modalities, even for common disease processes, are always changing based on latest research. Doctors and hospitals are always re-educating and learning new strategies. They have to.

[Winehole23]

‘There is a real cost’: As Covid shows, barring bedside visitors from ICU deprives patients of the best care
(http://‘There is a real cost’: As Covid shows, barring bedside visitors from ICU deprives patients of the best care)


A growing body of evidence supports the theory that bedside visitors offer not only comfort, but true clinical value. As experts on their loved ones, they can provide important details that may be missing from health records, and can clock subtle changes in behavior that may precede adverse medical complications. Visitors can calm agitated patients with a touch of the hand and reassure them with a word. They fluff pillows, fetch ice, clip fingernails, brush hair, and bring in favorite foods that might convince someone to eat for the first time in a long time.

And humanizing the ICU, it turns out, can actually help someone survive and recover fully from critical illness. Around the world, studies are showing that when visiting hours are longer and more flexible, ICU stays are shorter (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28671901/). Patients are less likely to suffer from delirium or anxiety. They have lower levels (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16490836/) of stress-related hormones. Coronary patients had lower (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7689390/) heart rates after bedside visits; patients with brain conditions showed a decrease (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2951451/) in intracranial pressure during theirs. The studies have their limits, but taken together, the picture is clear: In almost every case, more and longer visits improves a patient’s health.

“There seems to be this feeling that family is nice-to-have, not essential,” said Daniela Lamas, a pulmonary and critical care physician at Brigham & Women’s Hospital in Boston. But when they’re not around, as has been the case during most of the pandemic, she said, “there is a real cost.”
https://www.statnews.com/2021/07/28/covid-shows-barring-bedside-visitors-deprives-patients-of-best-care/

[ElNono]

Lol if your dr is still studying data on Cancer you are in for a world.of hurt.

Doctors are required to take continuing education on their area of expertise. Heck, even RNs need to as well.

If your doctor isn't doing it, he shouldn't have a license to practice.

[vy65]

You didnt say that, Einstein.

Be clear next time or you get another pimp slap.

Are you vaccinated or not?

[ElNono]

Cancer isn't two years old though.

This is obvious as well. New disease, now new variants, it's a very fluid environment out there with very active research.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol hater wants to be put on a ventilator immediately since that's what doctors did at the start of the pandemic.:tu

[BD24]

I see that hater is still spouting retarded bullshit and can still never admit when he is wrong.

[spurraider21]

Lots of fake news making the rounds... good thing we have actual researchers calling them out...

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[Winehole23]

I see that hater is still spouting retarded bullshit and can still never admit when he is wrong.He still doesnt seem to get that multlpying emojis doesn't strengthen his point, but the opposite.

[spurraider21]

Doctors are required to take continuing education on their area of expertise. Heck, even RNs need to as well.

If your doctor isn't doing it, he shouldn't have a license to practice.
hater strikes me as the guy that goes to a chiropractor when he needs medical care

[ElNono]

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I saw you posting the same tweet on the other thread :tu

[Spurs Homer]

lol hater getting bukkake’d



again


(oh yeah - emojis) :lmao:lmao:rollin

[ElNono]

hater strikes me as the guy that goes to a chiropractor when he needs medical care

I actually think he's just being contrarian, and doesn't want to lose his Fauci schtick...

[boutons_deux]

Florida church reeling after six members die within 10 days amid spike in caseshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/08/jacksonville-church-covid

[boutons_deux]

Covid killed her husband.

Now it’s taking the only home her kids have ever known.

The death of Lisa Grim’s 37-year-old husband not only devastated her and her two sons emotionally,

it has broken them financially

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/08/09/widow-covid-missouri-home-loss/


Fuck homicidal Trash and his homicidal sycophants to hell.

[hater]

Doctors are required to take continuing education on their area of expertise. Heck, even RNs need to as well.

If your doctor isn't doing it, he shouldn't have a license to practice.

Sure they need to continue education. Just not when you have 3 months to live due to cancer :lol

[hater]

:lol hater wants to be put on a ventilator immediately since that's what doctors did at the start of the pandemic.:tu

:lmao this idiot thinks 100% of covid infected patients were being put on vetilators in 2020 :lol

[hater]

:lol hater wants to be put on a ventilator immediately since that's what doctors did at the start of the pandemic.:tu

:lmao this idiot thinks 100% of covid infected patients were being put on vetilators in 2020 :lol

[hater]

hater strikes me as the guy that goes to a chiropractor when he needs medical care

And you strike me as a guy who believes Putin is a dictator :lmao

[hater]

I actually think he's just being contrarian, and doesn't want to lose his Fauci schtick...

I actually think Falsuchism is a fraud and a disaster. Thus why we have 600k dead carcasses on the ground

But to each his own :lmao

[hater]

:lmao Falsuchi's great calls:

Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. "Bottom line, we don't have to worry about this one, right?" asked Greg Kelly, the host.

Fauci said, "Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about."

Jan. 26, Fauci gave an interview to John Catsimatidis, a syndicated radio host in New York. "What can you tell the American people about what's been going on?" Catsimatidis asked. "Should they be scared?"

"I don't think so," Fauci said. "The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It's a very, very low risk to the United States, but it's something we, as public health officials, need to take very seriously."




:lmao I can only imagine cancer dr Falsuchi telling me my tumor and dizziness are nothing to worry about :lol

[Winehole23]

#StillWithHim

[baseline bum]

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Anyone other than medical doctors calling themselves doctor is fucking cringe

[spurraider21]

Anyone other than medical doctors calling themselves doctor is fucking cringe
except jill biden

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao this idiot thinks 100% of covid infected patients were being put on vetilators in 2020 :lol


:lmao this idiot thinks 100% of covid infected patients were being put on vetilators in 2020 :lol

:rollin hater panic posting

[ChumpDumper]

Anyone other than medical doctors calling themselves doctor is fucking cringeI don't mind it since that's what it was decided they would be called long ago -- but it needs to be clear in shit like twitter handles or anything they write that they aren't medical doctors.

[baseline bum]

except jill biden

:lol

What? Does she have a Ph D in literature or something? :lol

[spurraider21]

What? Does she have a Ph D in literature or something? :lol
something like that. conservatives were up in arms about it though. they deserve a little triggering after basing Trump's entire first term on how much he triggered libs instead of actual policy

[spurraider21]

double post

[boutons_deux]

Florida and Texas Are Competing to See Who Can Come Up With the Dumbest COVID Rules

While Joe Biden calls on elected officials to help fight the pandemic or “get out of the way,” Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott are outdoing one another to see who can make their state more virus-riddled.

Thanks to Ron DeSantis, the profoundly cynical and incorrigibly smug Florida governor,

the Sunshine State had lead by a nose in this race to the bottom.

DeSantis has

mocked (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/08/report-florida-doctors-think-ron-desantis-is-a-national-embarrassment) public health officials as caseloads skyrocketed,

pursued an idiotic offensive (https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/politics/ron-desantis-joe-biden-donald-trump-covid-politics/index.html) against Biden, and

enacted rules designed to prevent mask (https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Executive-Order-21-175.pdf) and vaccine (https://www.flgov.com/2021/05/03/governor-ron-desantis-signs-landmark-legislation-to-ban-vaccine-passports-and-stem-government-overreach/) requirements and

to forbid municipalities (https://apnews.com/article/florida-coronavirus-laws-health-083b2c00304c9569a78040ca741aeba1) from instituting their own COVID safety measures.

Texas, led by Greg Abbott, who has also banned local COVID ordinances, has come roaring back. :lol

On Thursday, the state released a new guidance that somehow makes DeSantis’s effort (https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1422981255419813890) to block cruise ships from requiring vaccines seem smart:

Under recommendations from the Texas Education Agency (https://twitter.com/wfaa/status/1423418544767787017),

schools do not need to conduct contract tracing and

do not need to let parents know if a student has tested positive for the virus.

If a student does come into contact with an infected person,

a parent can still send them to school under the new guidance.

Not only are they declining to push vaccinations,

as other government and business officials are doing with increased urgency (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/08/vaccination-mandates-gain-momentum-amid-new-variant-fears),

the two governors are actively standing in the way of precautions to at least limit the spread of the virus,

which they’ve cavalierly downplayed.

“This is our COVID season,” DeSantis shrugged (https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1423359744585129988) Thursday. :lol

DeSantis on Thursday came out against health care facilities requiring staff to be vaccinated: “It’s not something I support,” he said (https://www.clickorlando.com/news/2021/08/05/gov-ron-desantis-objects-to-vaccine-mandates-at-florida-hospitals/).)

DeSantis and Abbott may be overseeing a breeding ground for potential new variants

“When you give it ample opportunity to mutate,” Dr. Anthony Fauci said Thursday,

“you may sooner or later get another variant, and

it is possible that that variant might be in some respects worse than the already very difficult variant we’re dealing with now.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/08/florida-texas-competing-to-see-who-can-come-up-with-dumbest-covid-rules

the chances of a much worse variant are much greater in countries the Capitalist-driven for-profit BigPharma has refused to help.

Fuck Capitalism, fuck Capitalists

[Winehole23]

horrific, if accurate


A study by Imperial College London found that Covid-19 test positivity among UK children five to 12 years was two- to six-fold higher than for persons 45 and older. As of Wednesday, one in 10 Covid-19 test results for US children five to 11 years are positive, and the week-over-week rise in test positivity is climbing fastest for this age group. Covid-19 test positivity among US children 12-17 (12.3%) is higher than for any other age group.


A published report of Scottish data noted that the Delta variant doubles the risk of Covid-19 hospitalization, regardless of age. The number of US children in the hospital due to Covid-19 doubled between 30 June and 31 July. On Thursday, US hospitals reported 249 pediatric admissions due to Covid-19, which is four admissions shy of the all-time single-day record (253). On a population-adjusted basis, the weekly average of US children admitted to hospitals with Covid-19 is rising faster than any other age group (as of Wednesday).


There is growing evidence to show that even mild or asymptomatic cases of Covid-19 among children can evolve into chronic (“long”) Covid. Newly published research suggests that at least one in 25 children with Covid-19 experience symptoms lasting more than four weeks. A separate UK government report estimates that at least one in eight children still have symptoms five weeks after their initial infection. Emerging data also suggests that up to one in 50 asymptomatic Covid-19 cases among children will evolve into chronic Covid.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/08/america-children-unvaccinated-covid-schools

[ElNono]

:lmao Falsuchi's great calls:

Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. "Bottom line, we don't have to worry about this one, right?" asked Greg Kelly, the host.

Fauci said, "Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about."

Jan. 26, Fauci gave an interview to John Catsimatidis, a syndicated radio host in New York. "What can you tell the American people about what's been going on?" Catsimatidis asked. "Should they be scared?"

"I don't think so," Fauci said. "The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It's a very, very low risk to the United States, but it's something we, as public health officials, need to take very seriously."


:lmao I can only imagine cancer dr Falsuchi telling me my tumor and dizziness are nothing to worry about :lol

Look at the dates. You're making my point for me.

[hater]

Look at the dates. You're making my point for me.

If your point is that the good Dr had no fucking clue then yes. Absolutely :lol

I had better more accurate info as the 1st pages.of this thread show :lol

:lmao Falsuchi

[boutons_deux]

Repugs, duped evangelical Christians Nationals, Capitalism has fucked America and will fuck it to hell.

[spurraider21]

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[hater]

https://twitter.com/dymitrpl/status/1221641709395808256?s=21


also....

wuhan suppoosedly has 50,000 hospital beds

hospitals are 100% full

measly few 2,000 infections so far? doesnt add up

Posted January 26, 2020

Meanwhile Dr Falsuchi was parading on tv saying this is nothing to worry about


:lmao Falsuchi

[boutons_deux]

Infamous evangelist goes nuts at Christian nationalist event: ‘You don't need the va​ccine -- you got Jesus!'

https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzE2MjU2NC9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY0Nzg4OTQ2Nn0.nEYwzSIhY 7vB_ObEv3Yoy7rjcAJgnHxpvm3eE3Nwu0g/image.jpg?width=1200&height=675

told the group to abandon masks and to forgo vaccines, since all they really need for protection is Jesus.

maybe you've been fed fear :lol

... but the Bible says that God has not given us the spirit of fear, but a power and a love and a sound mind."

"You have sound mind!" :lol nope! :lol

Feuerstein declared to the audience.

"You don't have to wear a mask! You got Jesus.

You don't need the vaccine! You got Jesus."

the "Christian nationalist event" was held at the Frisco Convention Center, north of Dallas, Texas

https://www.rawstory.com/preacher-joshua-feuerstein

[ElNono]

If your point is that the good Dr had no fucking clue then yes. Absolutely :lol

I had better more accurate info as the 1st pages.of this thread show :lol

:lmao Falsuchi

:lol No, what you're saying is that Fauci should still be saying the same thing. Otherwise he's a "flip flopper"... stupid.

[boutons_deux]

Lamar Jackson Still Unsure About Vaccine

Despite Being ‘Heartbroken’ Over Catching Covid TWICE :lol


https://www.mediaite.com/sports/lamar-jackson-still-unsure-about-vaccine-despite-being-heartbroken-over-catching-covid-twice/

[hater]

:lol No, what you're saying is that Fauci should still be saying the same thing. Otherwise he's a "flip flopper"... stupid.

When you dont have a fucking clue on something your have 2 paths. Double down on stupid of flip flop. Falsuchi chose the latter :lmao

[ElNono]

When you dont have a fucking clue on something your have 2 paths. Double down on stupid of flip flop. Falsuchi chose the latter :lmao

New disease... we didn't even have the DNA sequencing of the virus then.

Glad we have a guy that "flip flopped" instead of "double down on stupid"... :tu

[ChumpDumper]

New disease... we didn't even have the DNA sequencing of the virus then.

Glad we have a guy that "flip flopped" instead of "double down on stupid"... :tu
hater still thinks Trump was watching the Gorilla Channel.

[boutons_deux]

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[hater]

New disease... we didn't even have the DNA sequencing of the virus then.

Glad we have a guy that "flip flopped" instead of "double down on stupid"... :tu

Im not glad.

Wish we had a competent Dr. Probably would had way less carcasses.

[Winehole23]

Exclusive: 14-Year-Old Orange County Boy Hospitalized For COVID-19 Psychosis (https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2021/08/09/exclusive-14-year-old-orange-county-boy-hospitalized-for-covid-19-psychosis/)

[hater]

:lol DiNazio

https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1424765786103681027?s=19

[boutons_deux]

Making parents 'opt out,' San Antonio ISD is getting kids to mask up -

but other districts won't push it

“We basically have a three-part strategy for us, for safety,” San Antonio Independent School District Superintendent Pedro Martinez told the Express-News Editorial Board last week.

“We have vaccination clinics across all of our large high schools that started kicking off this week.

We have COVID testing at every school.”

“And over 99 percent of our families are going to be masking up,” he said.

the district asked families to state whether they wanted to “opt out” of wearing masks this fall,


Fewer than 100 families did so by last week.

https://www.expressnews.com/news/education/article/Making-parents-opt-out-San-Antonio-ISD-is-16374686.php

[SnakeBoy]

Got whiplash listening to this guy. That's right, that's wrong, that's right, that's wrong, that's right

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[ElNono]

Im not glad.

Wish we had a competent Dr. Probably would had way less carcasses.

It's not just a Dr job. There's a political and communications angle to it as well.

He's certainly qualified for the position. I can't tell you he's the best because I don't know that field that well, but I think he's done a terrific job considering he had to deal with a clown president next to him since the pandemic started up until a few months.

[SnakeBoy]

It's not just a Dr job. There's a political and communications angle to it as well.

He's certainly qualified for the position. I can't tell you he's the best because I don't know that field that well, but I think he's done a terrific job considering he had to deal with a clown president next to him since the pandemic started up until a few months.

The problem with Fauci is he approached this pandemic the same as SARS1 and Ebola. The whole test & trace, travel restrictions aren't helpful, we're gonna beat the virus approach. Maybe understandable early on even though some of us on ST (like Hater) could tell this virus was different even back then. Problem is the old man still hasn't come to grips with reality and because the very premise of his messaging is wrong it has led to confusion among the peoples.

[ElNono]

The problem with Fauci is he approached this pandemic the same as SARS1 and Ebola. The whole test & trace, travel restrictions aren't helpful, we're gonna beat the virus approach. Maybe understandable early on even though some of us on ST (like Hater) could tell this virus was different even back then. Problem is the old man still hasn't come to grips with reality and because the very premise of his messaging is wrong it has led to confusion among the peoples.

I think the biggest problem Fauci faced is that, unlike other pandemics, this was politicized from the get go. That also made it such that every state was on their own, instead of having a coordinated federal response.

Not going to say that mistakes were not made (there were mistakes) and that messaging was impeccable (it wasn't), but in this particular case there was much, much more to deal with than just the disease, unfortunately.

[ChumpDumper]

:wow

https://twitter.com/Willow__Bella/status/1424722882396147715?s=19

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:lmao fucking morons can't even storm the right building for no reason

:lol hater's people

[SnakeBoy]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/06/us/houston-baby-girl-airlifted-covid/index.htmlxc

Baby girl with Covid-19 airlifted 150 miles because of Houston hospital bed shortage

But hey, it's just a cold, right?







until it fills the hospitals. You stupid fuck.

link doesn't work. Was the baby vaccinated? If not add it to your lol dead from covid thread.

[Blake]

link doesn't work. Was the baby vaccinated? If not add it to your lol dead from covid thread.

Nobody says "lol dead from covid" for babies or for those that can't get the vaccine. But you and those like you will keep propping that straw man

[SnakeBoy]

Nobody says "lol dead from covid" for babies or for those that can't get the vaccine. But you and those like you will keep propping that straw man

Dead is dead, it's never funny. Well except RBG croaking during the Trump admin, that's fucking hilarious.

[Winehole23]

"anything to trigger the libs, but it's in poor taste when you do it to us"

[boutons_deux]

Children and the Delta variant



Coronavirus cases among children are surging across the U.S., with some doctors seeing more critically ill pediatric patients (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/Cindr9WcivEz5nis1Pd_Vg~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRi9CORP0ToaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMS 8wOC8wOS9oZWFsdGgvY29yb25hdmlydXMtY2hpbGRyZW4tZGVs dGEuaHRtbD9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD0xNTQmZW1jPWVkaXRfY2JfMj AyMTA4MDkmaW5zdGFuY2VfaWQ9Mzc1MTImbmw9Y29yb25hdmly dXMtYnJpZWZpbmcmcmVnaV9pZD04MDgyMTc5NyZzZWdtZW50X2 lkPTY1Nzk0JnRlPTEmdXNlcl9pZD05OTJkNjA4MjE0YjUwNTAw M2FhMDRiZjEwYTU5NTAzMVcDbnl0QgphEZGeEWFmUoBYUhNkYX Jub2NuZWxAZ21haWwuY29tWAQAAAAA) than at any other point during the pandemic.





From July 22 to July 29,

the number of new cases in children nearly doubled to around 72,000,

according to data from the American Academy of Pediatrics, and

children now make uparound 20 percent of all cases in the U.S. (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/a/4_ISx1M3j358pZuAObBzww~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRi9CORP0T-aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuY2JzbmV3cy5jb20vdmlkZW8vY2hpbGRyZW 4tbWFrZS11cC0yMC1wZXJjZW50LW9mLWFsbC1uZXctY292aWQt Y2FzZXMtYWNyb3NzLXRoZS11cy8_Y2FtcGFpZ25faWQ9MTU0Jm VtYz1lZGl0X2NiXzIwMjEwODA5Jmluc3RhbmNlX2lkPTM3NTEy Jm5sPWNvcm9uYXZpcnVzLWJyaWVmaW5nJnJlZ2lfaWQ9ODA4Mj E3OTcmc2VnbWVudF9pZD02NTc5NCZ0ZT0xJnVzZXJfaWQ9OTky ZDYwODIxNGI1MDUwMDNhYTA0YmYxMGE1OTUwMzFXA255dEIKYR GRnhFhZlKAWFITZGFybm9jbmVsQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAAAAA~~ )

The number of children entering the hospital with Covid has also been climbing, nearly matching the level from the pandemic’s peak in January.





Some of the biggest surges have come in places where the Delta variant is spreading quickly:

In Louisiana, nearly 3,500 children tested positive (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/a/uC7mIYUEtm80f40BpqHI-g~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRi9CORP4QTAWh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndkc3UuY29tL2FydGljbG UvbW9yZS10aGFuLTMwMDAtbG91aXNpYW5hLWNoaWxkcmVuLXRl c3QtcG9zaXRpdmUtZm9yLWNvdmlkLTE5LWluLWp1c3QtZm91ci 1kYXlzLzM3MjQ2MTk0P2NhbXBhaWduX2lkPTE1NCZlbWM9ZWRp dF9jYl8yMDIxMDgwOSZpbnN0YW5jZV9pZD0zNzUxMiZubD1jb3 JvbmF2aXJ1cy1icmllZmluZyZyZWdpX2lkPTgwODIxNzk3JnNl Z21lbnRfaWQ9NjU3OTQmdGU9MSZ1c2VyX2lkPTk5MmQ2MDgyMT RiNTA1MDAzYWEwNGJmMTBhNTk1MDMxVwNueXRCCmERkZ4RYWZS gFhSE2Rhcm5vY25lbEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAAA~) in just a few days, and

the average age of pediatric patients dropped to just 5 years old.





These numbers have sparked concerns that what had once seemed like the smallest of silver linings — that Covid-19 mostly spared children — might be changing. But the details are murky.





Most children with Covid-19 have mild symptoms, and there is not yet enough evidence to conclude that Delta causes more severe disease in children than other variants do, scientists told our colleague Emily Antes.

What is clear is that a confluence of factors — including Delta’s contagiousness and the fact that people under 12 are not yet eligible to be vaccinated — is sending more children to the hospital.





Most children who contract Covid have relatively mild symptoms, such as runny noses, congestion, coughs or fevers.

But a small share of children, especially those with pre-existing conditions, develop severe disease, showing up at the hospital with pneumonia or in respiratory distress.

Others develop lingering neurological, physical or psychiatric symptoms, known as “long Covid.” (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/_hS2E-8pxaC6GCL7IZbHUg~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRi9CORP0TdaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMS 8wOC8wOC9oZWFsdGgvbG9uZy1jb3ZpZC1raWRzLmh0bWw_Y2Ft cGFpZ25faWQ9MTU0JmVtYz1lZGl0X2NiXzIwMjEwODA5Jmluc3 RhbmNlX2lkPTM3NTEyJm5sPWNvcm9uYXZpcnVzLWJyaWVmaW5n JnJlZ2lfaWQ9ODA4MjE3OTcmc2VnbWVudF9pZD02NTc5NCZ0ZT 0xJnVzZXJfaWQ9OTkyZDYwODIxNGI1MDUwMDNhYTA0YmYxMGE1 OTUwMzFXA255dEIKYRGRnhFhZlKAWFITZGFybm9jbmVsQGdtYW lsLmNvbVgEAAAAAA~~)





Now, as cases surge, families of high-risk children are growing increasingly terrified (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/to4TQThTm8NJCYDxBThdVg~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRi9CORP0TiaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMS 8wOC8wOS91cy9oaWdoLXJpc2stY2hpbGRyZW4tY292aWQuaHRt bD9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD0xNTQmZW1jPWVkaXRfY2JfMjAyMTA4MD kmaW5zdGFuY2VfaWQ9Mzc1MTImbmw9Y29yb25hdmlydXMtYnJp ZWZpbmcmcmVnaV9pZD04MDgyMTc5NyZzZWdtZW50X2lkPTY1Nz k0JnRlPTEmdXNlcl9pZD05OTJkNjA4MjE0YjUwNTAwM2FhMDRi ZjEwYTU5NTAzMVcDbnl0QgphEZGeEWFmUoBYUhNkYXJub2NuZW xAZ21haWwuY29tWAQAAAAA). A growing number are sharing their stories online, accompanied by desperate cries for people to get vaccinated.





“We’re just pleading, begging people to get vaccinated and wear their mask for the sake of our children,”

said Elena Hung, of Silver Spring, Md., whose daughter Xiomara, 7, has heart issues and chronic lung and kidney disease and breathes through a tracheotomy.





Many parents say they are angry and exhausted from trying to keep their children safe while balancing the emotional trauma of more than a year of isolation — with no end in sight.





“There literally are not words for the frustration but also the fury that I feel that this has gone on as long as it has,” said Alison Chandra, whose high-risk 7-year-old recently tested positive.

“It didn’t have to be this way. It didn’t.”

-- NYTimes email

[Thread]

Children and the Delta variant



Coronavirus cases among children are surging across the U.S., with some doctors seeing more critically ill pediatric patients (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/Cindr9WcivEz5nis1Pd_Vg~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRi9CORP0ToaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMS 8wOC8wOS9oZWFsdGgvY29yb25hdmlydXMtY2hpbGRyZW4tZGVs dGEuaHRtbD9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD0xNTQmZW1jPWVkaXRfY2JfMj AyMTA4MDkmaW5zdGFuY2VfaWQ9Mzc1MTImbmw9Y29yb25hdmly dXMtYnJpZWZpbmcmcmVnaV9pZD04MDgyMTc5NyZzZWdtZW50X2 lkPTY1Nzk0JnRlPTEmdXNlcl9pZD05OTJkNjA4MjE0YjUwNTAw M2FhMDRiZjEwYTU5NTAzMVcDbnl0QgphEZGeEWFmUoBYUhNkYX Jub2NuZWxAZ21haWwuY29tWAQAAAAA) than at any other point during the pandemic.





From July 22 to July 29,

the number of new cases in children nearly doubled to around 72,000,

according to data from the American Academy of Pediatrics, and

children now make uparound 20 percent of all cases in the U.S. (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/a/4_ISx1M3j358pZuAObBzww~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRi9CORP0T-aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuY2JzbmV3cy5jb20vdmlkZW8vY2hpbGRyZW 4tbWFrZS11cC0yMC1wZXJjZW50LW9mLWFsbC1uZXctY292aWQt Y2FzZXMtYWNyb3NzLXRoZS11cy8_Y2FtcGFpZ25faWQ9MTU0Jm VtYz1lZGl0X2NiXzIwMjEwODA5Jmluc3RhbmNlX2lkPTM3NTEy Jm5sPWNvcm9uYXZpcnVzLWJyaWVmaW5nJnJlZ2lfaWQ9ODA4Mj E3OTcmc2VnbWVudF9pZD02NTc5NCZ0ZT0xJnVzZXJfaWQ9OTky ZDYwODIxNGI1MDUwMDNhYTA0YmYxMGE1OTUwMzFXA255dEIKYR GRnhFhZlKAWFITZGFybm9jbmVsQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAAAAA~~ )

The number of children entering the hospital with Covid has also been climbing, nearly matching the level from the pandemic’s peak in January.





Some of the biggest surges have come in places where the Delta variant is spreading quickly:

In Louisiana, nearly 3,500 children tested positive (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/a/uC7mIYUEtm80f40BpqHI-g~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRi9CORP4QTAWh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndkc3UuY29tL2FydGljbG UvbW9yZS10aGFuLTMwMDAtbG91aXNpYW5hLWNoaWxkcmVuLXRl c3QtcG9zaXRpdmUtZm9yLWNvdmlkLTE5LWluLWp1c3QtZm91ci 1kYXlzLzM3MjQ2MTk0P2NhbXBhaWduX2lkPTE1NCZlbWM9ZWRp dF9jYl8yMDIxMDgwOSZpbnN0YW5jZV9pZD0zNzUxMiZubD1jb3 JvbmF2aXJ1cy1icmllZmluZyZyZWdpX2lkPTgwODIxNzk3JnNl Z21lbnRfaWQ9NjU3OTQmdGU9MSZ1c2VyX2lkPTk5MmQ2MDgyMT RiNTA1MDAzYWEwNGJmMTBhNTk1MDMxVwNueXRCCmERkZ4RYWZS gFhSE2Rhcm5vY25lbEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAAA~) in just a few days, and

the average age of pediatric patients dropped to just 5 years old.





These numbers have sparked concerns that what had once seemed like the smallest of silver linings — that Covid-19 mostly spared children — might be changing. But the details are murky.





Most children with Covid-19 have mild symptoms, and there is not yet enough evidence to conclude that Delta causes more severe disease in children than other variants do, scientists told our colleague Emily Antes.

What is clear is that a confluence of factors — including Delta’s contagiousness and the fact that people under 12 are not yet eligible to be vaccinated — is sending more children to the hospital.





Most children who contract Covid have relatively mild symptoms, such as runny noses, congestion, coughs or fevers.

But a small share of children, especially those with pre-existing conditions, develop severe disease, showing up at the hospital with pneumonia or in respiratory distress.

Others develop lingering neurological, physical or psychiatric symptoms, known as “long Covid.” (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/_hS2E-8pxaC6GCL7IZbHUg~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRi9CORP0TdaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMS 8wOC8wOC9oZWFsdGgvbG9uZy1jb3ZpZC1raWRzLmh0bWw_Y2Ft cGFpZ25faWQ9MTU0JmVtYz1lZGl0X2NiXzIwMjEwODA5Jmluc3 RhbmNlX2lkPTM3NTEyJm5sPWNvcm9uYXZpcnVzLWJyaWVmaW5n JnJlZ2lfaWQ9ODA4MjE3OTcmc2VnbWVudF9pZD02NTc5NCZ0ZT 0xJnVzZXJfaWQ9OTkyZDYwODIxNGI1MDUwMDNhYTA0YmYxMGE1 OTUwMzFXA255dEIKYRGRnhFhZlKAWFITZGFybm9jbmVsQGdtYW lsLmNvbVgEAAAAAA~~)





Now, as cases surge, families of high-risk children are growing increasingly terrified (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/to4TQThTm8NJCYDxBThdVg~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRi9CORP0TiaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMS 8wOC8wOS91cy9oaWdoLXJpc2stY2hpbGRyZW4tY292aWQuaHRt bD9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD0xNTQmZW1jPWVkaXRfY2JfMjAyMTA4MD kmaW5zdGFuY2VfaWQ9Mzc1MTImbmw9Y29yb25hdmlydXMtYnJp ZWZpbmcmcmVnaV9pZD04MDgyMTc5NyZzZWdtZW50X2lkPTY1Nz k0JnRlPTEmdXNlcl9pZD05OTJkNjA4MjE0YjUwNTAwM2FhMDRi ZjEwYTU5NTAzMVcDbnl0QgphEZGeEWFmUoBYUhNkYXJub2NuZW xAZ21haWwuY29tWAQAAAAA). A growing number are sharing their stories online, accompanied by desperate cries for people to get vaccinated.





“We’re just pleading, begging people to get vaccinated and wear their mask for the sake of our children,”

said Elena Hung, of Silver Spring, Md., whose daughter Xiomara, 7, has heart issues and chronic lung and kidney disease and breathes through a tracheotomy.





Many parents say they are angry and exhausted from trying to keep their children safe while balancing the emotional trauma of more than a year of isolation — with no end in sight.





“There literally are not words for the frustration but also the fury that I feel that this has gone on as long as it has,” said Alison Chandra, whose high-risk 7-year-old recently tested positive.

“It didn’t have to be this way. It didn’t.”

-- NYTimes email







On mother fucker Biden's tab.

[Winehole23]

DeSantis continues to play D for SARS-CoV-2, against local mitigation and masking

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[spurraider21]

DeSantis continues to play D for SARS-CoV-2, against local mitigation and masking

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what a ghoul

[Winehole23]

baggy pants, dreadlocks, piercings, leggings, etc.,

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[Winehole23]

that's one way to get the anti-vaxxers and white supremacists out. we should do the police next.

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[Thread]

baggy pants, dreadlocks, piercings, leggings, etc.,

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...cleats too. Big horseshoe ones.

[Thread]

that's one way to get the anti-vaxxers and white supremacists out. we should do the police next.

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...they've had enough of the blacks eatin' at their pensions & whatnot. tee, hee.

[Thread]

what a ghoul

Now we'll see if those "board members" are just funnin' about, or, dead serious like Kilmer was.

[Blake]

Dead is dead, it's never funny. Well except RBG croaking during the Trump admin, that's fucking hilarious.

Lol snake boy wagging a moral finger. Gtfo :lol

[Winehole23]

hater

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[DarrinS]

Seems like link between cases and deaths is broken, just like in the UK. Vaccination likely the reason.

[Winehole23]

Seems like link between cases and deaths is broken, just like in the UK. Vaccination likely the reason.wish we could say the same for hospitalization. did you see the Abbott emergency announcement?

[spurraider21]

Seems like link between cases and deaths is broken, just like in the UK. Vaccination likely the reason.
seems likely, but we also know that deaths trail cases, so the extent to which the link is broken remains to be seen. we've made confident proclamations about this in the past as well, and didnt pan out

[DarrinS]

wish we could say the same for hospitalization. did you see the Abbott emergency announcement?

Yeah, but the deaths aren't what they were in previous waves.

[DarrinS]

seems likely, but we also know that deaths trail cases, so the extent to which the link is broken remains to be seen. we've made confident proclamations about this in the past as well, and didnt pan out

Cases have been rising fast from early July.

[Winehole23]

Yeah, but the deaths aren't what they were in previous waves.no one says otherwise. this was predicted, in fact.

COVID maxing out hospitals is fairly serious, wouldn't you say?

[DarrinS]

Florida has most daily deaths and ONLY state with triple-digit deaths.

[Winehole23]

death isn't the only relevant metric.

given the rate of infection, the absolute numbers could still turn out to be large.

[DarrinS]

no one says otherwise. this was predicted, in fact.

COVID maxing out hospitals is fairly serious, wouldn't you say?


Yeah

[DarrinS]

death isn't the only relevant metric.

given the rate of infection, the absolute numbers could still turn out to be impressive.

Seems like the most important metric.

[Winehole23]

Seems like the most important metric.hmm, why?

[DarrinS]

hmm, why?

Really?

[Winehole23]

Really?yeah, really

organ damage and chronic disability are way more frightening to me. surely also more common.

is death more scary for you?

[baseline bum]

The problem with Fauci is he approached this pandemic the same as SARS1 and Ebola. The whole test & trace, travel restrictions aren't helpful, we're gonna beat the virus approach. Maybe understandable early on even though some of us on ST (like Hater) could tell this virus was different even back then. Problem is the old man still hasn't come to grips with reality and because the very premise of his messaging is wrong it has led to confusion among the peoples.

Has worked pretty fucking well for Taiwan, South Korea, New Zealand, and Australia.

[Blake]

Florida has most daily deaths and ONLY state with triple-digit deaths.

aT LeAsT wE nOt iN dEt zIp cOdE

[DarrinS]

aT LeAsT wE nOt iN dEt zIp cOdE

So edgy

[DarrinS]

yeah, really

organ damage and chronic disability are way more frightening to me. surely also more common.

is death more scary for you?

Duh

If I'm dead, I don't care about my organ damage. :lol

[Winehole23]

So edgyso, why do you discount suffering, medical bankruptcy and chronic disability from COVID?

these outcomes are far more common than death.

[Winehole23]

Duh

If I'm dead, I don't care about my organ damage. :lolExactly.

Death cures all cares, pains and woes -- nothing to worry about.

YOLO.

Why are you so scared of dying?

[DarrinS]

Exactly.

Death cures all cares, pains and woes -- nothing to worry about.

YOLO.

Why are you so scared of dying?


I'm not. You're the one who posts panic porn daily and is afraid of kids going to school. :lol

[Thanos]

I'm not. You're the one who posts panic porn daily and is afraid of kids going to school. :lol
:lmao at the lack of self-awareness needed to post this.

[Winehole23]

I'm not. You're the one who posts panic porn daily and is afraid of kids going to school. :lo!it's not porn for me, it's just information.

I think people should be worried about sending kids to school right now. doesn't seem safe -- certainly not compared to last year, when we basically called off in person learning.

way more pediatric COVID/hospitalization now.

[Winehole23]

It'snot the same COVID. Viruses are moving targets

[DarrinS]

:lmao at the lack of self-awareness needed to post this.

What's the panic porn I post?

I'm usually criticized for being too optimistic.

[DarrinS]

:lmao at the lack of self-awareness needed to post this.

dp

[Winehole23]

This isn't panic porn, it's a direct perspective from a Louisiana doc in a pediatric hospital. A big one.

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[Winehole23]

So why is death the ony relevant metric or the most important one to you, DarrinS (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=2042)?

Why doesn't the exponentially greater incidence of organ damage and chronic disability count?

[Winehole23]

Speaking of organ damage, have you considered that COVID-19 infection may have left you with a cognitive deficit?

Even mild cases can result in loss of grey matter.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01693-6

[DarrinS]

Proceeds to post multiple panic porn articles. :lol

[SnakeBoy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJoFXlsrkSg

lol the end of this report. Biden admin saying they already beat covid-19 and delta is a new pandemic :lol

[Winehole23]

Proceeds to post multiple panic porn articles. :lolno, that's straight news

[Winehole23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJoFXlsrkSg

lol the end of this report. Biden admin saying they already beat covid-19 and delta is a new pandemic :loldumb comment from Biden, must rankle you that he's the big dog now,

[hater]

Yeah, but the deaths aren't what they were in previous waves.

Not only vaccines. Treatments are key.

Now they know how to treat this and know which drugs and at what point they are most efficient. Id say just by treatment improvements we reduced deaths by 3x at least.

Vacvines. Hopefully they help to that extent as well at least. Vaccines are not the silver bullet but just another good weapon vs this.

[SnakeBoy]

Has worked pretty fucking well for Taiwan, South Korea, New Zealand, and Australia.

They (islands) all have strict border control and still have had to go back into lockdowns. The aussies have the the army patrolling the streets to keep people inside their homes right now. So wtf are you talking about they haven't beaten shit :lol

[hater]

it's not porn for me, it's just information.

I think people should be worried about sending kids to school right now. doesn't seem safe -- certainly not compared to last year, when we basically called off in person learning.

way more pediatric COVID/hospitalization now.

Its a different time. We know this virus for one year already and how to treat it. Last year we had no clue, also no vaccines to protect the weak.

Also kids have been locked at home for 1 year and a half already. Noone expected it to be this long. Time to make some tough choices and maybe risk a little more to let the kids be kids.

I know my nephews have been great but something is missing. They need to go back to school. We have treatments and vaccines to try to get this done.

Im not claiming this back to school in the fall will be a success but its worth a try.

[Winehole23]

Its a different time. We know this virus for one year already and how to treat it. Last year we had no clue, also no vaccines to protect the weak.

Also kids have been locked at home for 1 year and a half already. Noone expected it to be this long. Time to make some tough choices and maybe risk a little more to let the kids be kids.

I know my nephews have been great but something is missing. They need to go back to school. We have treatments and vaccines to try to get this done.

Im not claiming this back to school in the fall will be a success but its worth a try.Take a big chance and don't fuck up.

Good luck.

[hater]

Has worked pretty fucking well for Taiwan, South Korea, New Zealand, and Australia.

Australia did well although they were basically locked down for 1 year. With strict enforcement and arrests/jailings.

Delta came in a took a shit on them. Now they are scrambling to vax. They are in for some rough times.


Delta has thrown a wrench on every single country. Including China

[hater]

And :lmao the white house trying to convince ppl to take the shot w this

https://twitter.com/BlackWarFlags/status/1424875753213108316?s=19

[SnakeBoy]

Australia did well although they were basically locked down for 1 year. With strict enforcement and arrests/jailings.

Delta came in a took a shit on them. Now they are scrambling to vax. They are in for some rough times.


Delta has thrown a wrench on every single country. Including China

Delta isn't even the worst to come. We already know that there are single mutations that cause complete antibody escape. With the other HCoV's this happens every 3-5 years, we're coming up on year 2 for this virus. Thank God for memory T cells tho.

[hater]

:lmao

CRINGE

https://twitter.com/thejordynbrown/status/1424877382918230016?s=19

[SnakeBoy]

dumb comment from Biden, must rankle you that he's the big dog now,

I'm quite pleased that he's sticking to Trump's Murica 1st policies. China tariffs still in place, he waved the white flag in Afghanistan, increased military spending, and probably going to pass the Trump infrastructure plan in a week or so. Promises to get to the Bernie Bro spending later :lol

[Winehole23]

I'm quite pleased that he's sticking to Trump's Murica 1st policies. China tariffs still in place, he waved the white flag in Afghanistan, increased military spending, and probably going to pass the Trump infrastructure plan in a week or so. Promises to get to the Bernie Bro spending later :lolcontinuity not change.

he thumped your boy tho.

[hater]

I'm quite pleased that he's sticking to Trump's Murica 1st policies. China tariffs still in place, he waved the white flag in Afghanistan, increased military spending, and probably going to pass the Trump infrastructure plan in a week or so. Promises to get to the Bernie Bro spending later :lol

Promises made. Promises delivered :lol

Dont forget he also met w putin and called him the president of Russia :lmao

He even allowed Nordstream2 to finish. Can u imagine if Trump had done that :lmao

[ElNono]

And :lmao the white house trying to convince ppl to take the shot w this

https://twitter.com/BlackWarFlags/status/1424875753213108316?s=19

OMG is Benny Drama!

[hater]

OMG is Benny Drama!

Exactly.

U and the rest of Benny Drama superfans already took d shot :lol

[Winehole23]

this isn't panic porn, it's straight news for people seeking acute care in MS and regionally.

as in Texas, the loud, official push for vaccination comes too late.

Mississippi officials sound off about no capacity in ICUs statewide (https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2021/08/09/mississippi-has-no-icu-beds-saw-nearly-7000-cases-over-weekend/5544306001/)

[ElNono]

Exactly.

U and the rest of Benny Drama superfans already took d shot :lol

:lol

[DarrinS]

:lmao

CRINGE

https://twitter.com/thejordynbrown/status/1424877382918230016?s=19


This can't be real

[baseline bum]

They (islands) all have strict border control and still have had to go back into lockdowns. The aussies have the the army patrolling the streets to keep people inside their homes right now. So wtf are you talking about they haven't beaten shit :lol

They all acted early instead of calling it a hoax and gaslighting the public, telling them fairytales about how everything would be ok by Easter and 15 cases going on zero. Those nations made it to the point vaccines are readily available without piling up the ridiculous death count we did. We fucked up. We're not alone there, but stop pretending like there was nothing we could have done but just accept a bunch of American deaths.

[DarrinS]

They all acted early instead of calling it a hoax and gaslighting the public, telling them fairytales about how everything would be ok by Easter and 15 cases going on zero. Those nations made it to the point vaccines are readily available without piling up the ridiculous death count we did. We fucked up. We're not alone there, but stop pretending like there was nothing we could have done but just accept a bunch of American deaths.


If only the us had the balls to be that hardcore about our border policy.

Racisthhh

[pgardn]

When you dont have a fucking clue on something your have 2 paths. Double down on stupid of flip flop. Falsuchi chose the latter :lmao

You have absolutely no clue whether he understands viruses or not.
You seriously have no clue what you are talking about.

Dr. Fauci said some things that were incorrect into 1990.
And 2020. So he is a horrible scientist? You are a complete idiot.
Why do you keep on with the same theme over and over.

Did China's Navy secure Assad's rule over the whole of Syria Mr. WorldAffairs? This one earned a:wow:wow from you, how did that work out, big event? yesah!!

btw Trump never backed down and admitted he was wrong, good 4 years for you!

[baseline bum]

If only the us had the balls to be that hardcore about our border policy.

Racisthhh

LOL yeah it's teh Mexicans that are responsible for our COVID deaths

[DarrinS]

LOL yeah it's teh Mexicans that are responsible for our COVID deaths

We didn't stop the flights

[Winehole23]

LOL yeah it's teh Mexicans that are responsible for our COVID deathsall the border crossers get tested

their rate of COVID-19 positivity is <50% of the Texas rate.

we're more dangerous to illegals than they are to us, tbh.

[Winehole23]

DarrinS
SnakeBoy


Speaking of organ damage, have you considered that COVID-19 infection may have left you with a cognitive deficit?

Even mild cases can result in loss of grey matter.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01693-6

[ChumpDumper]

We didn't stop the flightsIt was already here.

[Winehole23]

We didn't stop the flightsvery true.

Trump's China travel ban was fake.

[SnakeBoy]

DarrinS
SnakeBoy

Well neither of us are stumped by high school level biology

[Winehole23]

Well neither of us are stumped by high school level biologynot sure what you mean, what do you mean?

[Winehole23]

youre talking to a guy who placed out of 9 hours of college biology, so I'm keen to hear your account of my educational deficit.

(i"m sure there are some. I probably placed out of all the college biology I was capable of passing, tbh. Ditto chemistry. But I did take six years of science in high school, as was required there.)

[SnakeBoy]

They all acted early instead of calling it a hoax and gaslighting the public, telling them fairytales about how everything would be ok by Easter and 15 cases going on zero. Those nations made it to the point vaccines are readily available without piling up the ridiculous death count we did. We fucked up. We're not alone there, but stop pretending like there was nothing we could have done but just accept a bunch of American deaths.

Yeah dude I've told you Trump fucked up by listening to the experts. We're talking about Fauci here and what he advises. Everybody knows he advised against China travel restrictions.

Here he is just after that saying travel restrictions are irrelevant
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/26/fauci-travel-restrictions-irrelevant-if-coronavirus-becomes-a-pandemic.html

Here he is at the end of 2020 still advising against travel restrictions
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/fauci-says-he-would-advise-against-additional-restrictions-on-uk-travel-as-country-grapples-with-new-coronavirus-variant/ar-BB1c76bL

Why do you still feel the need to semen shield for this old man who can't change his views?

[Winehole23]

I recall you posting a hard to understand immunological graph that you did not explain, is that your gripe?

[Winehole23]

Yeah dude I've told you Trump fucked up by listening to the experts. We're talking about Fauci here and what he advises. Everybody knows he advised against China travel restrictions.

Here he is just after that saying travel restrictions are irrelevant
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/26/fauci-travel-restrictions-irrelevant-if-coronavirus-becomes-a-pandemic.html

Here he is at the end of 2020 still advising against travel restrictions
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/fauci-says-he-would-advise-against-additional-restrictions-on-uk-travel-as-country-grapples-with-new-coronavirus-variant/ar-BB1c76bL

Why do you still feel the need to semen shield for this old man who can't change his views?~400,000 people traveled to the US from China after Trump's so called travel ban.

Try again.

[baseline bum]

Yeah dude I've told you Trump fucked up by listening to the experts. We're talking about Fauci here and what he advises. Everybody knows he advised against China travel restrictions.

Here he is just after that saying travel restrictions are irrelevant
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/26/fauci-travel-restrictions-irrelevant-if-coronavirus-becomes-a-pandemic.html

Here he is at the end of 2020 still advising against travel restrictions
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/fauci-says-he-would-advise-against-additional-restrictions-on-uk-travel-as-country-grapples-with-new-coronavirus-variant/ar-BB1c76bL

Why do you still feel the need to semen shield for this old man who can't change his views?

Test and trace worked great for them. South Korea had a big early outbreak they got control of through testing and tracing. I can't see why you're constantly semen shielding for Trump.

[baseline bum]

.

[ducks]

Let’s see. More than 450,000 people went to Sturgis. In the end, fewer than 0.1% of them got COVID. So, no. Millions did not die. It was fine. But Tony Fauci did not change his guidance. He isn't deterred by his own bigotry and stupid predictions.

[Winehole23]

Test and trace worked great for them. South Korea had a big early outbreak they got control of through testing and tracing. I can't see why you're constantly semen shielding for Trump.
straight trollin

anything for the lulz

[ElNono]

This can't be real

You're definitely not part of the TikTok generation, tbh

[ElNono]

Yeah dude I've told you Trump fucked up by listening to the experts. We're talking about Fauci here and what he advises. Everybody knows he advised against China travel restrictions.

Here he is just after that saying travel restrictions are irrelevant
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/26/fauci-travel-restrictions-irrelevant-if-coronavirus-becomes-a-pandemic.html

Here he is at the end of 2020 still advising against travel restrictions
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/fauci-says-he-would-advise-against-additional-restrictions-on-uk-travel-as-country-grapples-with-new-coronavirus-variant/ar-BB1c76bL

Why do you still feel the need to semen shield for this old man who can't change his views?


Test and trace worked great for them. South Korea had a big early outbreak they got control of through testing and tracing. I can't see why you're constantly semen shielding for Trump.

SnakeBoy forgets Fauci having to do a facepalm when Trump went solo with his "medical recommendations"... same for Birx. Heck, Trump didn't fire Fauci only because he was immensely more popular than him.

[Blake]

What's the panic porn I post?

I'm usually criticized for being too optimistic.

:lmao "too optimistic"

[Winehole23]

Let’s see. More than 450,000 people went to Sturgis. In the end, fewer than 0.1% of them got COVID. So, no. Millions did not die. It was fine. But Tony Fauci did not change his guidance. He isn't deterred by his own bigotry and stupid predictions.the Dakotas hit the 4th 5th and 6th highest peaks of weekly death behind NY, NJ. and AL last year.

https://covidtracking.com/data/charts/deaths-per-million-by-state

[Winehole23]

ducks straight makin shit up

[Blake]

Let’s see. More than 450,000 people went to Sturgis. In the end, fewer than 0.1% of them got COVID. So, no. Millions did not die. It was fine.

How many did die, dux?

[SnakeBoy]

SnakeBoy forgets Fauci having to do a facepalm when Trump went solo with his "medical recommendations"... same for Birx. Heck, Trump didn't fire Fauci only because he was immensely more popular than him.

lol you can cuz Trump all you want. Fauci gave the POTUS bad advice. Fauci is still giving POTUS bad advice and Biden is failing because of it. He's going to end up matching Trump's body count. I'm not happy about it but my commitment to honesty will force to say Hater called it.

[Winehole23]

lol you can cuz Trump all you want. Fauci gave the POTUS bad advice. Fauci is still giving POTUS bad advice and Biden is failing because of it. He's going to end up matching Trump's body count. I'm not happy about it but my commitment to honesty will force to say Hater called it.who was in charge, Fauci or the big dog?

please pick a lane.

[Blake]

lol you can cuz Trump all you want. Fauci gave the POTUS bad advice.

https://www.icegif.com/wp-content/uploads/icegif-8.gif

[ElNono]

lol you can cuz Trump all you want. Fauci gave the POTUS bad advice. Fauci is still giving POTUS bad advice and Biden is failing because of it. He's going to end up matching Trump's body count. I'm not happy about it but my commitment to honesty will force to say Hater called it.

Fauci certainly didn't tell Trump that you can drink clorox, or push hydrocloroxine or shine UV light on your guts and whatever other mendacious things manchild was broadcasting as the miracle cures for COVID.

One thing is bad advice, another thing is not take the advice and spew bullshit instead. Again, you can keep pretending Fauci wasn't caught doing a facepalm right next to the big loser, but everyone saw it.

Whether Old Joe ends up with the same body count or not the fact is that Joe and Fauci pushed for vaccinations and adapted to the changing situations, while big dummies like DeathSantis and Hotwheels kept pandering to idiots and padding the death count.

Most of the deaths Joe will have in his ledger are going to be from unvaccinated people while a vaccine was available, which says more about the state of America than anything else.

[daboom1]

https://www.icegif.com/wp-content/uploads/icegif-8.gif

You sure showed him with that .gif

[ElNono]

beep boop

[Winehole23]

1424876803366166545

[Winehole23]

Well neither of us are stumped by high school level biologywell, apparently you're stumped by your own point, because you haven't made it, you're just waving at it from a distance.

[Thread]

Whether Old Joe ends up with the same body count or not

tee, hee.

[Blake]

You sure showed him with that .gif

Hey why aren't you posting under the user name of "Chris", Chris?

[boutons_deux]

stupid and racist, often coexist

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p843x403/229659253_5410366099056400_5418186120625627844_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-4&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=-WJWmDnTi5IAX-z07pE&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=de7f7e6387c93f6c0a2cf2d65a0fe526&oe=6137B657

[Adam Lambert]

Look at the bitch tits on that one.

[boutons_deux]

Andy Borowitz (https://www.facebook.com/andyborowitz?__cft__[0]=AZWL2wvfTKbygrrlPMc-9ImIgfBIJwzL0dEc9JH9r19Y7ht_6vssr2m1oZLutyLDiJOWEt 2MUMHL2ayt_gBs2Xp595dKpEw-EHYKEH6V-LWcy4CEfhh61Cf5jA7-q1nPR4Z9AsVfo7cz5RukqZR_n6fUS80yr1YCI0JLrk_FJL6wGA&__tn__=-UC%2CP-R)

DeSantis Losing Support Among Voters Opposed To Dying

[Winehole23]

Hey why aren't you posting under the user name of "Chris", Chris?"Chris" lost an ELE bet related to the election, so he retired his handle and uses an alt.

[RandomGuy]

Well neither of us are stumped by high school level biology

basic critical thinking on the other hand, might as well be astrophysics. :lol

[Thread]

"Chris" lost an ELE bet related to the election, so he retired his handle and uses an alt.

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

lmemulatedao!!!

[RandomGuy]

Promises made. Promises delivered :lol

Dont forget he also met w putin and called him the president of Russia :lmao

He even allowed Nordstream2 to finish. Can u imagine if Trump had done that :lmao

Trump absolutely would have let Putin do what he wants.

Nordstream was one of hte more complicated calculations, foreign policy wise that the US has faced.

Germany really wanted it, and they are a close ally. That always puzzled me, because it makes them more beholden to Russia.

[ChumpDumper]

Darrin calls this an acceptable loss.

Kids must be forced together without masks now! The childless are not allowed to be concerned!

1425060285040238621

[Thread]

Darrin calls this an acceptable loss.

Kids must be forced together without masks now! The childless are not allowed to be concerned!

1425060285040238621

On mother fucker Biden's tab, Dumps.

Stings, don't it?

[RandomGuy]

I'm quite pleased that he's sticking to Trump's Murica 1st policies. China tariffs still in place, he waved the white flag in Afghanistan, increased military spending, and probably going to pass the Trump infrastructure plan in a week or so. Promises to get to the Bernie Bro spending later :lol

Trump never had an infrastructure plan any more than he had a healthcare plan. :lol

Thinking that he did is laughably naive. Modern fascist ability to self-delude about things never ceases to amaze me. smh

[hater]

Trump absolutely would have let Putin do what he wants.

So did Biden. Thats my point :lol



Nordstream was one of hte more complicated calculations, foreign policy wise that the US has faced.

Germany really wanted it, and they are a close ally. That always puzzled me, because it makes them more beholden to Russia.

Germany is not stupid. They dont wanna have to overpay for shitty liquid gas from USA. Why would they. Thats stupid. Basic rule of capitalism tbqh

[ChumpDumper]

DeSantis puts in another order for moar socialism.

1425102667798482949

[Thread]

DeSantis puts in another order for moar socialism.

1425102667798482949

On mother fucker Biden's tab, Dumps.

[hater]

Darrin calls this an acceptable loss.

Kids must be forced together without masks now! The childless are not allowed to be concerned!

1425060285040238621

And Biden killed him.

[Thread]

And Biden killed him.

Tell it, hater.

Testify!!!

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao double meltdown

both #StillWithHim:lol

[boutons_deux]

https://www.laprogressive.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/bring-out-your-dead-1200-1024x680.jpg

[Thread]

https://www.laprogressive.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/bring-out-your-dead-1200-1024x680.jpg

On mother fucker Biden's tab, bouts.

[hater]

On mother fucker Biden's tab, bouts.

Biden murders piling up

[boutons_deux]

Officials say makeshift morgue outside Florida hospital should 'neither cause alarm nor speculation'


https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzE2OTU0MC9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY2MzkxMDY0MH0.fvS19QHrX 4bCTdHeSSyPZNi3VcTDYtg2gUoDLAOfJO8/image.jpg?width=1200&height=675

https://www.rawstory.com/officials-say-makeshift-morgue-outside-florida-hospital-should-neither-cause-alarm-nor-speculation

[boutons_deux]

Support for 'desperate' DeSantis sinks as COVID death toll surpasses his election margin of victory

"DeSantis was elected governor in 2018 with

a margin of victory of just 0.4 percent, or 32,000 votes.

Florida's official COVID death count is now 39,695 (http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/covid19_report_archive/covid19-data/covid19_data_latest.pdf),

, "If you vote in Broward, you chose nine school board members to run schools, not DeSantis.

He got less than 32% of the vote in Broward in the 2018 election.

He's governor, not an emperor.

School board members are accountable to local voters.

Let them decide how to keep our schools safe."


https://www.rawstory.com/support-for-desperate-desantis-cratering-as-toll-races-past-his-election-margin-of-victory-columnist

[Winehole23]

nm

[boutons_deux]

Florida Gov. DeSantis threatens to hold school leaders’ pay if they require masks: ‘Financial consequences’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/10/desantis-threatens-school-salaries-mask-mandates-florida

[Winehole23]

some people act like mortality is the only relevant metric.

when hospitals get jammed up, the risk of dying from acute trauma or otherwise treatable complications/conditions goes up for everyone.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/covid-hospitals-cdc.png

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_3.html

[Thread]

some people act like mortality is the only relevant metric.

when hospitals get jammed up, the risk of dying from acute trauma or otherwise treatable complications/conditions goes up for everyone.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/covid-hospitals-cdc.png

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_3.html

Well, that's all there was when President Trump was on-the-spot, Winester.

We ain't changin' now if that's what you're gettin' at, sonny-boy.

Mother fucker Biden is responsible for 235k of dead Americans. & counting, son.

[SnakeBoy]

some people act like mortality is the only relevant metric.

when hospitals get jammed up, the risk of dying from acute trauma or otherwise treatable complications/conditions goes up for everyone.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/covid-hospitals-cdc.png

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_3.html

Massive failure by Biden for sure. Gifted effective vaccines and treatments, I did not think that even a senile old man could screw it up this bad. Got that wrong, looks like I'll be eating crow and saying "Hater called it" by Christmas.

[Blake]

Massive failure by Biden for sure. Gifted effective vaccines and treatments, I did not think that even a senile old man could screw it up this bad. Got that wrong, looks like I'll be eating crow and saying "Hater called it" by Christmas.

So you're for federally mandated vaccinations

[SnakeBoy]

So you're for federally mandated vaccinations

I wouldn't say I'm "for" it but don't really have a problem with it. It's not going to stop the spread or mutation of this virus like chumpettes think it will.

[SnakeBoy]

Test and trace worked great for them. South Korea had a big early outbreak they got control of through testing and tracing. I can't see why you're constantly semen shielding for Trump.

And travel restrictions which your hero Fauci still opposes and advises against

[DarrinS]

some people act like mortality is the only relevant metric.

when hospitals get jammed up, the risk of dying from acute trauma or otherwise treatable complications/conditions goes up for everyone.




Be careful not to fall and break a hip in the next few weeks.

[TSA]

Test and trace worked great for them. South Korea had a big early outbreak they got control of through testing and tracing. I can't see why you're constantly semen shielding for Trump.

South Korea has more daily cases now then they've had since the start of Covid.

[baseline bum]

Massive failure by Biden for sure. Gifted effective vaccines and treatments, I did not think that even a senile old man could screw it up this bad. Got that wrong, looks like I'll be eating crow and saying "Hater called it" by Christmas.

Gifted an out of control pandemic

[Thread]

Gifted an out of control pandemic

This big shot cocksucker claimed a "plan" to end 'em all, bum. "Just put me in center field and I'll produce it." 235k of dead Americans later we're taking to the refrigerated trucks at the hospitals once and again.

No more big shot.

[baseline bum]

South Korea has more daily cases now then they've had since the start of Covid.

And about 1/12th of the 7 day moving average of cases of Florida despite having 2.4x the population. JFC check your shit before posting.

[RandomGuy]

Massive failure by Biden for sure. Gifted effective vaccines and treatments, I did not think that even a senile old man could screw it up this bad. Got that wrong, looks like I'll be eating crow and saying "Hater called it" by Christmas.

It would be a lot easier to address this stuff if anyone could even be sure that is what you thought.

I would translate this as:

"I am gonna say some shit to trigger the libs, because I got red-assed constantly trying to defend that moron Trump for four years, and I don't even believe the shit I am saying".

BFD. Get over it, sunshine.

[Thread]

And about 1/12th of the 7 day moving average of cases of Florida despite having 2.4x the population. JFC check your shit before posting.

California has the most deaths and that Newsome guy ain't ever had to answer for it. Just keeps whistlin' past those California grave yards, big as you please.

[hater]

South Korea has more daily cases now then they've had since the start of Covid.

Delta

[SnakeBoy]

Gifted an out of control pandemic

He said wear a mask for 100 days and I'll end this. After 100 days he stood at the podium and said take off your mask we good.

Total failure

Sad!

[Thread]

He said wear a mask for 100 days and I'll end this. After 100 days he stood at the podium and said take off your mask we good.

Total failure

Sad!

Tell it, Snake.

Testify, Boy!!!

[baseline bum]

He said wear a mask for 100 days and I'll end this. After 100 days he stood at the podium and said take off your mask we good.

Total failure

Sad!

Right. Mr Semen Shield for 15 cases going on zero wants to make shit up.

[Winehole23]

Be careful not to fall and break a hip in the next few weeks.I'll keep that in mind on my morning bike rides.

[RandomGuy]

Let’s see. More than 450,000 people went to Sturgis. In the end, fewer than 0.1% of them got COVID. So, no. Millions did not die. It was fine. But Tony Fauci did not change his guidance. He isn't deterred by his own bigotry and stupid predictions.

CDC looked at one study, and that study specifically said there was a vast undercount, because they couldn't/didn't even test a significant number of people.

Fail.

[TSA]

And about 1/12th of the 7 day moving average of cases of Florida despite having 2.4x the population. JFC check your shit before posting.

:lol you brought up Korea and their test and trace not me

[Winehole23]

Massive failure by Biden for sure. Gifted effective vaccines and treatments, I did not think that even a senile old man could screw it up this bad. Got that wrong, looks like I'll be eating crow and saying "Hater called it" by Christmas.That's part of it for sure; Biden's failure got a big assist from red state pols playing D for SARS-CoV-2 against masking and mitigation and bad talking vaccines.

[hater]

That's part of it for sure; Biden's failure got a big assist from red state pols playing D for SARS-CoV-2 against masking and mitigation and bad talking vaccines.

Bidens CDC and Falsuchi basically stabbed the old senile man in the back.

"Masks off" "pandemic over" "back to normality" thats what they claimed. When they knew the vacvines were still a big ?. Lots of wishful thinking.

Poor old Joe tbqh

In a similar way Afghanistan. Wishful thinking that the Taliban will.just chillax :lmao


Again poor Joe.

[baseline bum]

:lol you brought up Korea and their test and trace not me

So making it to mid 2021 when vaccines that are very effective against death and hospitalization are widely available with only a couple of thousand deaths in a nation of 50 million isn't a success story? If that's a fuck up I can't wait to hear what you think of Trump's handling.

[ducks]

Only 200 more people died in 2020 then 2019
That is amazing if you would ask the media because of this thing called covid
And with more people in USA in 2020 then 2019
Trump !

[RandomGuy]

Right. Mr Semen Shield for 15 cases going on zero wants to make shit up.

See my commentary above. :D

[SnakeBoy]

1424855283755520006

[Winehole23]

that's bullshit, ducks

[pgardn]

And travel restrictions which your hero Fauci still opposes and advises against

Not true.
What kind of travel are you referring to?
There are a number of things you can refer to that Fauci may have screwed up, under or over estimated.
But at the very least, Snake and Hater are just making very broad statements that are just wrong.
On the other end of the spectrum of wrong are flat out lies mostly presented by hater.

[RandomGuy]

Only 200 more people died in 2020 then 2019
That is amazing if you would ask the media because of this thing called covid
And with more people in USA in 2020 then 2019
Trump !

Provably, sadly, wrong.

Whoever told you that was either lying or ignorant, and you, respectfully, have a hard time telling the difference when you are told things.


In 2020, approximately 3,358,814 deaths occurred in the United States (Table).
The age-adjusted rate was 828.7 deaths per 100,000 population, an increase of 15.9% from 715.2 in 2019.
The highest overall numbers of deaths occurred during the weeks ending April 11, 2020, (78,917) and December 26, 2020 (80,656) (Figure 1). Death rates were lowest among persons aged 5–14 years (13.6) and highest among persons aged ≥85 years (15,007.4); age-adjusted death rates were higher among males (990.5) than among females (689.2).
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm

The actual figure was closer to 500,000. You were off by a factor of over a thousand.

I have no idea who told you that, but they are easily proved wrong.

[RandomGuy]

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[SnakeBoy]

Not true.
What kind of travel are you referring to?
There are a number of things you can refer to that Fauci may have screwed up, under or over estimated.
But at the very least, Snake and Hater are just making very broad statements that are just wrong.
On the other end of the spectrum of wrong are flat out lies mostly presented by hater.

I provided link to Fauci interviews on travel restrictions earlier. All you have to do is listen to his own words. Doubt it will help you since you still think the vaccines are sterilizing and prevent infection.

[TSA]

So making it to mid 2021 when vaccines that are very effective against death and hospitalization are widely available with only a couple of thousand deaths in a nation of 50 million isn't a success story? If that's a fuck up I can't wait to hear what you think of Trump's handling.

Goalpost move.

[Winehole23]

1424855283755520006lol dull-witted MAGAchuds unfamiliar with quarantine

[SnakeBoy]

Goalpost move.

Yeah he keeps dancing around pretending his islands only did test & trace

[Dirks_Finale]

Massive failure by Biden for sure. Gifted effective vaccines and treatments, I did not think that even a senile old man could screw it up this bad. Got that wrong, looks like I'll be eating crow and saying "Hater called it" by Christmas.

Pretty much, this.

Campaigned on being a uniter. Takes office and is divisive as hell. Constant race baiting to please the guy speaking to him in his ear piece (Obama, imo) Goes so far left that he draws praise from AOC. Then wonders why the hard right refuses to get the shot.

If he would have been the moderate he advertised himself to be, I think the vaccination rate is up some and the country does not return to being a covid toilet.

[baseline bum]

Goalpost move.

Nope, the goalpost was always South Korea's test and trace was very effective after SnakeBoy shit all over testing and contact tracing.

[baseline bum]

Pretty much, this.

Campaigned on being a uniter. Takes office and is divisive as hell. Constant race baiting to please the guy speaking to him in his ear piece (Obama, imo) Goes so far left that he draws praise from AOC. Then wonders why the hard right refuses to get the shot.

If he would have been the moderate he advertised himself to be, I think the vaccination rate is up some and the country does not return to being a covid toilet.

Oh yeah Trump tried to overthrow an election but Biden is the divisive one.

[spurraider21]

1424855283755520006
god, owens is such a moron.

well at least she got this from a dot gov instead of a dot com!

1:55 for the reference

1366404767409311750

[ElNono]

Pretty much, this.

Campaigned on being a uniter. Takes office and is divisive as hell. Constant race baiting to please the guy speaking to him in his ear piece (Obama, imo) Goes so far left that he draws praise from AOC. Then wonders why the hard right refuses to get the shot.

If he would have been the moderate he advertised himself to be, I think the vaccination rate is up some and the country does not return to being a covid toilet.

Uniter of non-cultists, tbh... ie: see bipartisan infrastructure bill...

Old Joe doesn't negotiate with terrorists and traitors...

[SnakeBoy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7VUk87c1xk

Nice discussion of delta, lambda, and future vaccine escape.

Bonus, young Amy Klobuchar is pretty cute. Would hit it.

[baseline bum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7VUk87c1xk

Nice discussion of delta, lambda, and future vaccine escape.

Bonus, young Amy Klobuchar is pretty cute. Would hit it.

You know you'd rather have old Elena

[spurraider21]

Breakthrough cases aren’t the cause of the US Covid-19 surge (https://www.vox.com/22602039/breakthrough-cases-covid-19-delta-variant-masks-vaccines?utm_campaign=vox&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8bIh7-XIAAqMF8?format=jpg&name=large

[baseline bum]

Yeah he keeps dancing around pretending his islands only did test & trace

You keep going around pretending test and trace didn't work. I also never recalled you wanting borders closed, you were just saying we're all fucked and nothing we can do about it from the very beginning.

[SnakeBoy]

Breakthrough cases aren’t the cause of the US Covid-19 surge (https://www.vox.com/22602039/breakthrough-cases-covid-19-delta-variant-masks-vaccines?utm_campaign=vox&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8bIh7-XIAAqMF8?format=jpg&name=large

Vaccines don't prevent infection, they prevent or reduce disease. It's a mistake to try mislead people into vaccination with bad data imo.

[spurraider21]

Vaccines don't prevent infection, they prevent or reduce disease. It's a mistake to try mislead people into vaccination with bad data imo.
i'm sorry the Biden Vaccine™ works

[TSA]

Breakthrough cases aren’t the cause of the US Covid-19 surge (https://www.vox.com/22602039/breakthrough-cases-covid-19-delta-variant-masks-vaccines?utm_campaign=vox&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8bIh7-XIAAqMF8?format=jpg&name=large

Entirely misleading. Observation periods started Jan 2021 when the vaccine was just being rolled out.

https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/covid-19-vaccine-breakthrough-cases-data-from-the-states/

A more accurate picture would be April 19th when all US adults were eligible for the vaccine until present.

[SnakeBoy]

i'm sorry the Biden Vaccine™ works

Then why are you masked up?

[TSA]

Nope, the goalpost was always South Korea's test and trace was very effective after SnakeBoy shit all over testing and contact tracing.

How is test and trace working in South Korea right now?

[baseline bum]

How is test and trace working in South Korea right now?

It got them through the early part of the pandemic until vaccines were available, so pretty fucking good. And this split second, they're a little more than 1/25 of the daily infections per capita Trump's home state is at, so there's that.

[TSA]

It got them through the early part of the pandemic until vaccines were available, so pretty fucking good. And this split second, they're a little more than 1/25 of the daily infections per capita Trump's home state is at, so there's that.

Why isn’t test and trace working for them now? They are hitting new peaks every day.

[Thread]

It got them through the early part of the pandemic until vaccines were available, so pretty fucking good. And this split second, they're a little more than 1/25 of the daily infections per capita Trump's home state is at, so there's that.

Nobody has more death than Newsome in California.

[baseline bum]

Why isn’t test and trace working for them now? They are hitting new peaks every day.

For all your bitching about Chumpdumper you do the same shit, never answering a question and always deflecting with another.

[Thread]

Why isn’t test and trace working for them now? They are hitting new peaks every day.

Why don't you get down off your fuckin' high horse, T? This black ball of Dale has gone on long enough.

[Thread]

Why isn’t test and trace working for them now? They are hitting new peaks every day.

Why don't you get down off your fuckin' high horse, T? This black ball of Dale has gone on long enough.

[TSA]

For all your bitching about Chumpdumper you do the same shit, never answering a question and always deflecting with another.

You didn’t ask me a question, you failed to answer my question, and you’ve deflected to Florida twice. :lol

[hater]

Then why are you masked up?

:lol

[spurraider21]

Entirely misleading. Observation periods started Jan 2021 when the vaccine was just being rolled out.

https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/covid-19-vaccine-breakthrough-cases-data-from-the-states/

A more accurate picture would be April 19th when all US adults were eligible for the vaccine until present.

On July 16, 2021, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky revealed that 99.5% of recent U.S. deaths (https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-99-5-covid-19-162125960.html) from COVID-19 were of unvaccinated people. “Those deaths were preventable with a simple, safe shot,” she said. In Early July, Fauci said that 99.2% of people who died recently were unvaccinated (https://www.npr.org/2021/07/16/1017002907/u-s-covid-deaths-are-rising-again-experts-call-it-a-pandemic-of-the-unvaccinated). In the state of Maryland, every patient who died from COVID-19 in June was unvaccinated (https://www.baltimoresun.com/coronavirus/bs-md-unvaccinated-coronavirus-deaths-maryland-june-20210707-7zugtntgifg4pomlrjy4lmjhnq-story.html).

In her July 16 statement, Walensky also said that 97% of current COVID-19 hospitalizations are of unvaccinated people. An earlier analysis done by The Associated Press found that 98.9% of all hospitalized COVID-19 patients in May were unvaccinated (https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187). The director of the Los Angeles County Department of Health Services recently stated that all new hospitalized COVID-19 patients in Los Angeles were unvaccinated (https://abc7.com/unvaccinated-covid19-los-angeles-county-hospitalizations/10887037/).

It is hard to find data about overall cases among unvaccinated compared with vaccinated individuals. This results partly from the CDC’s transition in May 2021 to focusing on hospitalizations of COVID-19 vaccine recipients rather than cases. But one way to get at this data is to compare two states with large differences in vaccination rates. As the delta variant of SARS-CoV-2 surges across the U.S., one can observe the consequences of this split into a vaccinated and unvaccinated America in real time.

In the state of Missouri, only 40% of people are vaccinated. In some counties within Missouri, as few as 14.7% of the residents are vaccinated. Not surprisingly, the state has seen a surge in COVID-19 cases through the middle of July, with 2,000 to 3,000 new cases per day. The rate of spread is also increasing. Already, some hospitals are running out of ventilators and intensive care beds.

Contrast this with Massachusetts, where 63% of people are fully vaccinated. Though the state is also seeing an increase in cases, total new infections numbered only around 200 to 300 per day. The number of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 in Massachusetts is also down 95% since January 2021.

As of July 20, 2021, Missouri had 1,357 patients hospitalized with COVID-19, almost 13 times more than the 106 patients in Massachusetts. This is despite Missouri’s having a slightly smaller population that is much more dispersed.

https://www.krqe.com/health/coronavirus/vaccine/us-is-split-between-the-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-and-deaths-and-hospitalizations-reflect-this-divide/ (https://www.krqe.com/health/coronavirus/vaccine/us-is-split-between-the-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-and-deaths-and-hospitalizations-reflect-this-divide/)

[baseline bum]

You didn’t ask me a question, you failed to answer my question, and you’ve deflected to Florida twice. :lol

Yeah I asked you what you thought of Trump's work if South Korea was that much of a fuckup with ~2000 dead up until now.

[Winehole23]

You keep going around pretending test and trace didn't work. I also never recalled you wanting borders closed, you were just saying we're all fucked and nothing we can do about it from the very beginning.still his schtick, tbh