Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[koriwhat]

must have missed that in my poly sci classes

You've missed a lot in school tbh just by what I see from you here on ST. Good thing your paralegal does all the heavy lifting for you shit lawyer. :tu

[spurraider21]

You've missed a lot in school tbh just by what I see from you here on ST. Good thing your paralegal does all the heavy lifting for you shit lawyer. :tu
work smarter, not harder :tu

[koriwhat]

work smarter, not harder :tu

True that! :tu:lol

[SnakeBoy]

Lol WeebsTheDweeb calling all us unvaccinated "rats"... I wonder who else related the same of a certain demo of people back in the 1930's-40's Germany?

Either way, no one is scared of a Weebo when shit truly hits the fan. No one!

Funny part of his post is that he referenced the black plague which is what started the rise of anti-semitism in Europe. Failing leaders needed a scapegoat for their failure.

[koriwhat]

Funny part of his post is that he referenced the black plague which is what started the rise of anti-semitism in Europe. Failing leaders needed a scapegoat for their failure.

All these DWeebs here on ST are literal racist fascist mini authoritarian tyrants who think their time is now. The bullied salivating to be the bully.

[Adam Lambert]

Snakeboi and kw teaming up to own some libs

https://i.ibb.co/kKD2Y3J/d4734f975665935a3d049687fc0370b2d24fd6576a06d6759e 996d2b9af3ec16.jpg

[SnakeBoy]

Aussies putting military on the streets to enforce lockdown :lol

[koriwhat]

Snakeboi and kw teaming up to own some libs

Should I post the same GIF whenever you reply? I mean you suck the tiny dicks of your buddies here all the time bro. You're just mad and literally have nothing of substance to add.

Btw, I'm pretty liberal but def not "progressive" and def not "republican".

[koriwhat]

.

Stupid vbulletin and its double posting for no damn reason at all... Ugh!

[spurraider21]

there was a time where this was accurate, but it has since aged like warm milk

659503822499241985

[weebo]

Lol WeebsTheDweeb calling all us unvaccinated "rats"... I wonder who else related the same of a certain demo of people back in the 1930's-40's Germany?

Either way, no one is scared of a Weebo when shit truly hits the fan. No one!

I didn't call you a rat I called you a flea low class disease spreading kori :lol

[koriwhat]

I didn't call you a rat I called you a flea low class disease spreading kori :lol

Yeah because I'm spreading a "disease" I don't even have. :lol

If I had it though I'd love to spread it to you because my immune system is up to par but how about yours?

Poor sad pussy ass Weebs... :lmao

[SnakeBoy]

there was a time where this was accurate, but it has since aged like warm milk

659503822499241985

Least vaccinated groups are blacks, hispanics, young adults...the Trump base amirite

[SnakeBoy]

there was a time where this was accurate, but it has since aged like warm milk

659503822499241985

Least vaccinated groups are blacks, hispanics, young adults...the Trump base amirite

[weebo]

lol poor libs lashing out over Biden's failure

biden's vaccine rollout was a huge success...70% vaxx among adults..only ones still pending are the poorly educated low class koriwhat types

[weebo]

Yeah because I'm spreading a "disease" I don't even have. :lol

If I had it though I'd love to spread it to you because my immune system is up to par but how about yours?

Poor sad pussy ass Weebs... :lmao

I've heard that one before...seems to go out the window when they start begging for o2

[spurraider21]

Least vaccinated groups are blacks, hispanics, young adults...the Trump base amirite
:cry im sure this will get some traction if you keep repeating it

[koriwhat]

there was a time where this was accurate, but it has since aged like warm milk

659503822499241985

Yeah we're "anti-vaccine" because we're anti this vaccine(s). You're so dumb bro and you eat up everything on Twitter which says plenty about who you truly are.


biden's vaccine rollout was a huge success...70% vaxx among adults..only ones still pending are the poorly educated low class koriwhat types

How exactly am I "poorly educated"? I am damn sure I could do more in life than you can do behind your 9-5 job if you even have one. You literally have no clue and your hatred for those who aren't pussies like yourself is laughable.

Btw, Trump's Vaccine(s) and Trump's Rollout! Get it right you pussy! :lol

[koriwhat]

I've heard that one before...seems to go out the window when they start begging for o2

Then lets hope you'll be begging for o2. :tu

[koriwhat]

:cry im sure this will get some traction if you keep repeating it

True though

[weebo]

Yeah we're "anti-vaccine" because we're anti this vaccine(s). You're so dumb bro and you eat up everything on Twitter which says plenty about who you truly are.



How exactly am I "poorly educated"? I am damn sure I could do more in life than you can do behind your 9-5 job if you even have one. You literally have no clue and your hatred for those who aren't pussies like yourself is laughable.

Btw, Trump's Vaccine(s) and Trump's Rollout! Get it right you pussy! :lol

what have you done kori? oh ya...you're renting a condo and occasionally pull in $200 for a couple of hours of shitty tattoo work :lol


which is it? trump vaccine and rollout for a killer virus or is it just a "flu" with a 99.9999999999 recovery rate...you morons can't keep your stories straight :lol

[spurraider21]

How exactly am I "poorly educated"?
poorly educated doesn't mean stupid or incompetent

to answer the question of how you are poorly educated, we'd need to know what your highest level of education is. any degrees following middle school?

[koriwhat]

what have you done kori? oh ya...you're renting a condo and occasionally pull in $200 for a couple of hours of shitty tattoo work :lol

which is it? trump vaccine and rollout for a killer virus or is it just a "flu" with a 99.9999999999 recovery rate...you morons can't keep your stories straight :lol

Who cares what I rent when I actually own and who cares what I make at work as long as I am contributing to society? Why is that always your go to? You sit on ST and act like your time is worth money and money is what you're after while wasting countless hours chatting with "losers" like myself... You aren't making an argument for yourself and more so solidifying my theory that you're a pussy and you're pathetic but here on ST you can be anything you'd like. :lol

Now as for Trump, he was fucking stupid for playing along with any of this bullshit but give the man credit especially if you think you're going to slide that credit over to Biden.

And when did I say it was just a flu? You keep lumping in with others and then putting words in my mouth. You sir are truly the moron and those tactics are those of morons tbh. :tu

[koriwhat]

poorly educated doesn't mean stupid or incompetent

to answer the question of how you are poorly educated, we'd need to know what your highest level of education is. any degrees following middle school?

If your dumbass could use the search feature here maybe then you'd get your answer. I'm seriously glad I'm no faux intellectual like you, DWeebs, et al.

[weebo]

Who cares what I rent when I actually own and who cares what I make at work as long as I am contributing to society? Why is that always your go to? You sit on ST and act like your time is worth money and money is what you're after while wasting countless hours chatting with "losers" like myself... You aren't making an argument for yourself and more so solidifying my theory that you're a pussy and you're pathetic but here on ST you can be anything you'd like. :lol

Now as for Trump, he was fucking stupid for playing along with any of this bullshit but give the man credit especially if you think you're going to slide that credit over to Biden.

And when did I say it was just a flu? You keep lumping in with others and then putting words in my mouth. You sir are truly the moron and those tactics are those of morons tbh. :tu

so what are you kori?

[koriwhat]

so what are you kori?

Not you or your ilk. I don't pretend to be anything other than myself here on ST unlike you and others.

[koriwhat]

DWeebs you going to keep making this thread about me just so you can turn around and cry that I am derailing this thread like you pussies always do? Tactics!

[spurraider21]

If your dumbass could use the search feature here maybe then you'd get your answer. I'm seriously glad I'm no faux intellectual like you, DWeebs, et al.
search feature is down

[koriwhat]

search feature is down

Sucks for you. Thank God your paralegal was able to check it and inform you that the feature is disabled like yourself.

[weebo]

Not you or your ilk. I don't pretend to be anything other than myself here on ST unlike you and others.

why are you always so angry? who hurt you? you're among friends here...you're safe..you can talk here

[koriwhat]

why are you always so angry? who hurt you? you're among friends here...you're safe..you can talk here

I would never consider those like you or yourself as a friend ever. I'd rather you choke on dirt bro. :tu

[weebo]

I would never consider those like you or yourself as a friend ever. I'd rather you choke on dirt bro. :tu

that's good...keeping venting...you'll feel better

[koriwhat]

that's good...keeping venting...you'll feel better

^ Another page out of lame troll tactics

[boutons_deux]

All of North Texas is now a 'high transmission' area, according to latest CDC map

Collin County was considered an area of "substantial transmission," but it was moved to "high transmission."

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=c5ffe9fe07&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r-808575285854956436&th=17b18312d0c815ac&view=fimg&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ9qJ9i8snx6ZrrtUFUTJQ0hIayBddDWzwmjncq uCRhxoi2t64Xl0C6dgp7HnXJyR8P021zzah8sjUC1hEi1Hgbc7 tjqm4CKCRaqaYu083v-6FUIsdFf_fwLQ3c&disp=emb&realattid=ii_krzfbpyk0

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/north-texas-high-transmission-red-areas-latest-cdc-map/287-7dee20c0-34df-4c84-bb10-6b2e11ee9fb0

[weebo]

^ Another page out of lame troll tactics

feel better?

[spurraider21]

Sucks for you. Thank God your paralegal was able to check it and inform you that the feature is disabled like yourself.
and i was able to bill for the time :tu

[SnakeBoy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVEDbS2UlZk

TLDW
Germany and Gates invested heavily in making an mRNA vaccine on the cheap, it didn't work. No worries though, they're still going to sell it to the poors in Africa and Latin America :lol

[ElNono]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVEDbS2UlZk

TLDW
Germany and Gates invested heavily in making an mRNA vaccine on the cheap, it didn't work. No worries though, they're still going to sell it to the poors in Africa and Latin America :lol

Probably comes with a free Phoenix Suns championship t-shirt as well...

[boutons_deux]

A Doomsday COVID Variant Worse Than Delta and Lambda May Be Coming, Scientists Say

https://www.newsweek.com/2021/08/13/doomsday-covid-variant-worse-delta-lambda-may-coming-scientists-say-1615874.html

[DarrinS]

A Doomsday COVID Variant Worse Than Delta and Lambda May Be Coming, Scientists Say

https://www.newsweek.com/2021/08/13/doomsday-covid-variant-worse-delta-lambda-may-coming-scientists-say-1615874.html



Nice piece of panic porn.

[Blake]

SEN. RAND PAUL: The CDC says you're not supposed to get vaccinated if you've been infected within three months. So what are we going to do? Tell people that can't fly for three months, even according to the CDC?…So it makes no sense. It's complete collectivism, and all of these people, are the same people who hooted and hollered and said ‘Trump is leading us to authoritarianism.’ What could be more authoritarian than a no-fly list for people who disagree with you?

Pandering to the muh rights KKKentucky crowd

[koriwhat]

Nice piece of panic porn.

Yep

[pgardn]

Nice piece of panic porn.

Agree.
We need to get people vaccinated.
We dont need large populations to be given a chance to produce so many variations.

[koriwhat]

Agree.
We need to get people vaccinated.
We dont need large populations to be given a chance to produce so many variations.

Constitutional rights be damned, right? Yikes!

[pgardn]

Constitutional rights be damned, right? Yikes!

You dont get it.
Its their choice.
If you want more variation, hope for large populations of unvaccinated people.
Its pretty simple. Im sure you understand who this second surge was driven by. If you want the boots article to have a higher probability of coming true, then you want large populations of unvaccinated people together. So you are hoping for the scenario boots presented?

So how do you feel about masks? do they work?

[DarrinS]

Agree.
We need to get people vaccinated.
We dont need large populations to be given a chance to produce so many variations.

Evidently, we need to get India vaccinated.

[Blake]

Constitutional rights be damned, right? Yikes!

You have the right to stay home and not be vaccinated.

[koriwhat]

You dont get it.
Its their choice.
If you want more variation, hope for large populations of unvaccinated people.
Its pretty simple. Im sure you understand who this second surge was driven by. If you want the boots article to have a higher probability of coming true, then you want large populations of unvaccinated people together. So you are hoping for the scenario boots presented?

So how do you feel about masks? do they work?

I don't read anything that bouts reads especially anything coming from those radical progressive trash outlets he posts from. :vomit:

I am not against masks at all. I wear them if the establishment I go into asks me to do so. To each their own though because on the flip-side I really don't care if others wear them or not. Also, I don't think they work like we're being told they work by our establishment hacks in office; if they did the hacks in office wouldn't also suggest people wears scarfs and the like around their mouths.

[koriwhat]

.

Damn VBulletins shitty coding... Ugh press the button once and double post.

[spurraider21]

Evidently, we need to get India vaccinated.
or just send them a lot of zinc

[pgardn]

Evidently, we need to get India vaccinated.

It would help but no.
If we have a widespread vaccinated population with unvaccinated at a low % and spread evenly , outside events are much less likely to spread in OUR country. We have been over this. We will do it again I guess.

[pgardn]

I don't read anything that bouts reads especially anything coming from those radical progressive trash outlets he posts from. :vomit:

I am not against masks at all. I wear them if the establishment I go into asks me to do so. To each their own though because on the flip-side I really don't care if others wear them or not. Also, I don't think they work like we're being told they work by our establishment hacks in office; if they did the hacks in office wouldn't also suggest people wears scarfs and the like around their mouths.

I do.
It makes it easier on me and my family if people would comply.
But they have not so here we are. With giant pockets on non vaccinated individuals getting infected easier, getting the virus at a younger age, and getting much sicker than the same age groups with the first virus.

[boutons_deux]

Texas hospitals hit by staffing crisis as burnout depletes workforce and COVID-19 surges

The lack of available nurses has driven up salaries and created a heated, competitive job market as thousands of positions remain open throughout Texas.

Texas nurse Jenna Price gets half a dozen solicitations a day from hospitals and staffing agencies

that want to pay her four times her current salary to leave her job at a suburban Central Texas emergency room and

take a temporary assignment in another hospital that needs nurses.

“The money is ridiculous,” Price said.

There are 23,000 more unfilled jobs in Texas for registered nurses than there are nurses seeking to fill them

“There's no pipeline of staff that we see ready to just hop in and start helping,”

Burnout (https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/11/texas-health-care-workers-coronavirus/) is causing nurses of all specialties to leave the profession in droves — or to accept better paying nursing jobs in an increasingly competitive market,

“These health care heroes have been at this for 18 and 19 months.

Many of them are just leaving the workforce, saying ‘I can’t do it anymore.’”

“We've had a significant number of people, [after] the first two waves, who just stepped away from the profession,” Kroll said.

“It’s too stressful. It was really life and death.”

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/05/texas-hospitals-nurses-covid/

Thanks, Trash, you homicidal piece of toxic shit

[DarrinS]

It would help but no.
If we have a widespread vaccinated population with unvaccinated at a low % and spread evenly , outside events are much less likely to spread in OUR country. We have been over this. We will do it again I guess.


Except for every variant we've dealt with. :lol

UK alpha
India delta

Lol

[pgardn]

Except for every variant we've dealt with. :lol

UK alpha
India delta

Lol

Yes because we do not have a highly vaccinated public with the non vaccinated not festering in pockets.
Another Darrin ah fuk moment.

lol...

[weebo]

Texas hospitals hit by staffing crisis as burnout depletes workforce and COVID-19 surges

The lack of available nurses has driven up salaries and created a heated, competitive job market as thousands of positions remain open throughout Texas.

Texas nurse Jenna Price gets half a dozen solicitations a day from hospitals and staffing agencies

that want to pay her four times her current salary to leave her job at a suburban Central Texas emergency room and

take a temporary assignment in another hospital that needs nurses.

“The money is ridiculous,” Price said.

There are 23,000 more unfilled jobs in Texas for registered nurses than there are nurses seeking to fill them

“There's no pipeline of staff that we see ready to just hop in and start helping,”

Burnout (https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/11/texas-health-care-workers-coronavirus/) is causing nurses of all specialties to leave the profession in droves — or to accept better paying nursing jobs in an increasingly competitive market,

“These health care heroes have been at this for 18 and 19 months.

Many of them are just leaving the workforce, saying ‘I can’t do it anymore.’”

“We've had a significant number of people, [after] the first two waves, who just stepped away from the profession,” Kroll said.

“It’s too stressful. It was really life and death.”

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/05/texas-hospitals-nurses-covid/

Thanks, Trash, you homicidal piece of toxic shit

and the ones still in the profession have stop caring

[DarrinS]

and the ones still in the profession have stop caring

Not the ones I know.

[weebo]

Not the ones I know.

Im sure I know a helluva a lot more

[baseline bum]

and the ones still in the profession have stop caring

How can one not stop caring when their sickest patients have had lifelines thrown to them in the form of free vaccinations they refuse because they think it's some evil plot against them?

[DarrinS]

Im sure I know a helluva a lot more


Tell us where you work, so we don't send anyone there

[GAustex]

What hospital is it where the nurses do not care anymore?

[SnakeBoy]

Tell us where you work, so we don't send anyone there

He's a travelling hospitalist. They're all a miserable group even before covid.

[Winehole23]

1423607887738413056

[Winehole23]

masking tips

1423199009187971074

[Winehole23]

MAGAs have snowflaked the fuck out, and Texas schools are deferring to that.

1423503946195288067

[Winehole23]

1423460844847894529

[hater]

What hospital is it where the nurses do not care anymore?

Lol

Most hospitals have been caring for the voluntary alcoholics, drug addicts and terrible eaters for centuries.

But they stopped caring when treating the terrible vaxine hesitant in months :lmao


What a nice fairy tale :lol

[DarrinS]

1423460844847894529


Are any of those EUA vaccines?

[Winehole23]

give it another two or three weeks and tell us how you feel about approved vaccines

(in b4 "warp speed good for safety and efficacy trials and EUA," but not FDA approval.)

[DarrinS]

And kids under 12 aren't allowed.

[DarrinS]

And kids under 12 aren't allowed.

And the risk/benefit for this cohort is debatable.

[Winehole23]

And the risk/benefit for this cohort is debatable.what's the risk?

what's the benefit?

show your sums.

[ChumpDumper]

Evidently, we need to get India vaccinated.

Yes, along with the US and all other countries.

[hater]

give it another two or three weeks and tell us how you feel about approved vaccines

(in b4 "warp speed good for safety and efficacy trials and EUA," but not FDA approval.)

3 weeks or 3.years. the difference between EUA and full Approval will still be the same.

[hater]

And the risk/benefit for this cohort is debatable.

This makes no sense. Under 12 trials are still underway (as far as I know)

At least wait until FDA EULas it for under 12 :lol

[hater]

what's the risk?

what's the benefit?

show your sums.

Show us yours

[Winehole23]

Show us yoursI made no claim about risk/benefit of COVID vaccines for <12yo.

IIRC, those studies are ongoing.

[boutons_deux]

Vaccine skeptics and anti-​maskers are sucking down horse paste promoted by Trump's 'alien DNA' doctor

One of the groups behind the ivermectin craze is America's Frontline Doctors (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/dont-fall-for-the-americas-frontline-doctors-video-hydroxychloroquine-is-not-a-19-cure/), the Trump-promoted Texas group :lol

that includes accused Capitol insurrectionist Dr. Simone Gold :lol

and

"alien DNA" specialist (https://www.rawstory.com/dr-stella-immanuel-lawsuit/) Dr. Stella Immanuel. :lol

"Devotees have besieged pharmacists with prescriptions from shady online prescribers, forcing pharmacies to crack down and treat the antiparasitic drugs like opioids,"

enthusiasts have taken to raiding rural tractor supply stores in search of ivermectin horse paste (packed with 'apple flavor!') and

weighed the benefits of taking ivermectin 'sheep drench' and a noromectin 'injection for swine and cattle.'"
FDA, meanwhile, has cautioned people against taking drugs intended for large animals because they are highly concentrated.

"The irony is, in a severe ivermectin overdose patients will end up needing to be intubated to protect their airway, meanwhile,

a lot of them are taking the ivermectin to allegedly treat their COVID… to avoid ultimately being intubated and placed on a ventilator,"

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-bogus-cure

[spurraider21]

And the risk/benefit for this cohort is debatable.
what's the risk karrin, autism?

[DarrinS]

Vaccine skeptics and anti-​maskers are sucking down horse paste promoted by Trump's 'alien DNA' doctor



https://covid19criticalcare.com/about/the-flccc-physicians/

[boutons_deux]

New Metric Shows COVID Cut Average Lifespan By Nearly A Decade In Parts Of U.S.


as COVID-19 peaked in New Jersey in mid-April 2020, the average lifespan in the state plummeted by almost nine years, the most dramatic example from the U.S.

https://scienceblog.com/524611/new-metric-shows-covid-cut-average-lifespan-by-nearly-a-decade-in-parts-of-u-s

[pgardn]

Lol

Most hospitals have been caring for the voluntary alcoholics, drug addicts and terrible eaters for centuries.

But they stopped caring when treating the terrible vaxine hesitant in months :lmao


What a nice fairy tale :lol

I dont know about the not caring stuff.
But overwhelmed and burned out...
Yeah caring for alcoholics and cancer patients is exactly like caring for people with an incredibly transmissible virus, exactly the same. All of the sudden alcoholics and cancer patients are just there in droves for no apparent reason and pass on the alcoholism and cancer to health care workers. Sure thing...

And there are people who dont care in almost any large profession. But thats different than burned out and overwhelmed in a system that is caring for all forms of nasty stuff trying to get people well. Or save their lives. You go with your "just another day in the office" hater.

[DarrinS]

what's the risk karrin, autism?

I'm so anti-vax that I got my entire family vaccinated.

[Winehole23]

I'm so anti-vax that I got my entire family vaccinated.what's your risk/benefit math for 12yo and under?

which risks are you weighing?

[boutons_deux]

Liberty Counsel Official Calls COVID-19 Vaccines a ‘Crime Against Humanity’

Liberty Counsel’s Mat Staver is waging a relentless public relations and legal campaign

against the COVID-19 vaccines and

against any moves by private or government employers to require employees to be vaccinated.

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/liberty-counsel-official-calls-covid-19-vaccines-a-crime-against-humanity/

[boutons_deux]

Madison Cawthorn Shows Up at a Local School Hearing and Berates Board Members for Passing a Mask Mandate

“You have muzzled (parents’) voices just like you have muzzled our children,” Cawthorn said.

“You passed this mask mandate without input from those who would hold you accountable because you knew it was wrong.

You knew it would never withstand the scrutiny of the public.

I’ve witnessed swampy backdoor tactics from corrupt bureaucrats in Washington D.C.,

but what you have done here today puts that all to shame.”

“You have sacrificed the social, emotional, and psychological development of our children on the altar of wokeness,”

Buncombe County has a rolling average of 25 Covid cases per 100,000 people — making it a red zone for Covid transmission

as defined by the CDC.

Nonetheless, Cawthorn argued that

a mask mandate “[flies] in the face of scientific reasoning” and would do more harm than good.

“Forcing our children to wear masks is nothing short of psychological child abuse,” Cawthorn said. “Period.”

https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-madison-cawthorn-shows-up-at-a-local-school-hearing-and-berates-board-members-for-passing-a-mask-mandate/

TSA has found a boyfriend

[DarrinS]

what's your risk/benefit math for 12yo and under?

which risks are you weighing?

For my 17 y.o. son, it was myocarditis.

[Winehole23]

For my 17 y.o. son, it was myocarditis.can you quantify the risk, or are did pull the judgment from thin air like you do here?

(that's a deflection, btw.)

[TSA]

can you quantify the risk, or are did pull the judgment from thin air like you do here?

(that's a deflection, btw.)

Occurring at higher rate than CDC thought.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2782900

[koriwhat]

can you quantify the risk, or are did pull the judgment from thin air like you do here?

(that's a deflection, btw.)

You're such a fucking bitch bro.

[Winehole23]

Occurring at higher rate than CDC thought.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2782900Thanks.

If you and Darrin were to compare that (and other vacination risks) to the risks of infection for kids under 12yo, you'd have an argument.

[DarrinS]

Thanks.

If you and Darrin were to compare that (and other vacination risks) to the risks of infection for kids under 12yo, you'd have an argument.


There's no data on under 12 yet.

[DarrinS]

https://pennstate.pure.elsevier.com/en/publications/imperfect-vaccination-can-enhance-the-transmission-of-highly-viru-2

[hater]

Thanks.

If you and Darrin were to compare that (and other vacination risks) to the risks of infection for kids under 12yo, you'd have an argument.

Risk of death or bad injury from Covid on kids under 12 is tiny.

Dont just say infection. For most kids this is sniffles

[Winehole23]

There's no data on under 12 yet.so then, not even arguable

[Winehole23]

Risk of death or bad injury from Covid on kids under 12 is tiny.

Dont just say infection. For most kids this is snifflesIf you can't quantify it and compare to the vacccine risks, you're just spinning your wheels like Darrin.

[hater]

If you can't quantify it and compare to the vacccine risks, you're just spinning your wheels like Darrin.

You are comparing vaccine risks to risk of "infection only"

Thats laughable given the fact that 99% of under 12 infected barely have any symptoms

[Winehole23]

You are comparing vaccine risks to risk of "infection only"

Thats laughable given the fact that 99% of under 12 infected barely have any symptomsjust spinning your wheels, got it

[TSA]

Thanks.

If you and Darrin were to compare that (and other vacination risks) to the risks of infection for kids under 12yo, you'd have an argument.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.01.21259785v1

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.07.21259779v1

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.30.21259763v1

[Winehole23]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.01.21259785v1

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.07.21259779v1

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.30.21259763v1thanks, I'm on my way to work.

can you summarize the preprints in your own words? bare links aren't an argument.

[Blake]

can you summarize the preprints in your own words?.

iTs iN tHeRe yOu fInD iT

[hater]

just spinning your wheels, got it

And youre making silly comparisons. Got it.

[pgardn]

You are comparing vaccine risks to risk of "infection only"

Thats laughable given the fact that 99% of under 12 infected barely have any symptoms

That is absolutely untrue with the DELTA strain.
So you wish to be called names again heater?

It's not yet well understood if the delta variant is more dangerous for young children, or if kids are more susceptible to this strain compared to others who are unvaccinated, but doctors have reported a steady increase of Covid cases in children (https://health.clevelandclinic.org/delta-variant-and-children/) and medical experts have warned about the ongoing dangers of the virus (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/delta-variant-spreads-medical-experts-warn-risk-young-children-n1274126).

[koriwhat]

Is there a test for the "delta" variant? :lmao

[hater]

Average Joe claims to have vaccinated 110% of americans :lmao

https://twitter.com/_PrinceCarlton_/status/1423676624273281028?s=19

[koriwhat]

^ No one expects Biden to even know where he is tbh. Everyone clearly sees what a fraud administration this is yet the TDS made all you fools vote for communism to be ushered in slowly or somewhat fast tracked.

[pgardn]

Is there a test for the "delta" variant? :lmao

Of course there is.
Its basically same one as the tests for the two other widely spread variants that were most prevalent and the beginning and the middle of this crap. The virus has not changed that much genetically or in its basic proteins. It is still a coronavirus, its still extremely closely related to all the isolated strains. The changes in its mRNA sequence are minor but enough to follow the changes around the world. And apparently the same proteins that were recognized are still recognized by most tests. But all the testing still has some problems like before. And there are still different ways to test for the presence of the virus.

[pgardn]

^ No one expects Biden to even know where he is tbh. Everyone clearly sees what a fraud administration this is yet the TDS made all you fools vote for communism to be ushered in slowly or somewhat fast tracked.

Biden is a communist?
Please define a communist and communism.
He is a conservative democrat. He is not from the raving lunatic fringe of the red team.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/219242934_10225552013656054_4000474568655355783_n. jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-4&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=aisvfeul_CMAX9Gcbig&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=77be56c15efcb6d046367a271981a3d4&oe=61326CC4

[spurraider21]

Average Joe claims to have vaccinated 110% of americans :lmao

https://twitter.com/_PrinceCarlton_/status/1423676624273281028?s=19
probably 350mil shots given

[koriwhat]

Of course there is.
Its basically same one as the tests for the two other widely spread variants that were most prevalent and the beginning and the middle of this crap. The virus has not changed that much genetically or in its basic proteins. It is still a coronavirus, its still extremely closely related to all the isolated strains. The changes in its mRNA sequence are minor but enough to follow the changes around the world. And apparently the same proteins that were recognized are still recognized by most tests. But all the testing still has some problems like before. And there are still different ways to test for the presence of the virus.

Show me proof there's testing for specifically the variants. Not a test that covers everything because those have been around from the get go and they're still the same old tests. I want a test specifically calling out the variants or else it's all lip service in my opinion. Everywhere I read it's said the tests are the same and can't necessarily differentiate and isolate any variants.


Biden is a communist?
Please define a communist and communism.

I'm not playing your games because I've already been down this road and defined it before with others here.

[koriwhat]

probably 350mil shots given

Running cover as usual.

[pgardn]

Average Joe claims to have vaccinated 110% of americans :lmao

https://twitter.com/_PrinceCarlton_/status/1423676624273281028?s=19

Oh yes.
The red team made very sure the census was going to be accurate only in being much smaller than it really is.
How can you forget the sham the red team tried to play games with the Census? It was horribly done, cut off early, and is clearly BELOW the actual number of people.

[spurraider21]

Running cover as usual.
:lol

quick google search confirmed my guess

https://i.gyazo.com/c84c2fb961e126ec8d2a602e75e2e830.png

[hater]

Show me proof there's testing for specifically the variants. Not a test that covers everything because those have been around from the get go and they're still the same old tests. I want a test specifically calling out the variants or else it's all lip service in my opinion. Everywhere I read it's said the tests are the same and can't necessarily differentiate and isolate any variants.



I'm not playing your games because I've already been down this road and defined it before with others here.

It is the same test.

Regarding variants, I believe they use math to calculate prevalence of which variant. They probably sample a small percentage of all the tests they take. Maybe even 1% and use statistics to calculate the prevalence nationwide.

[hater]

:lol

quick google search confirmed my guess

https://i.gyazo.com/c84c2fb961e126ec8d2a602e75e2e830.png

Doesnt make Joe any lesss senile

[pgardn]

Show me proof there's testing for specifically the variants. Not a test that covers everything because those have been around from the get go and they're still the same old tests. I want a test specifically calling out the variants or else it's all lip service in my opinion. Everywhere I read it's said the tests are the same and can't necessarily differentiate and isolate any variants.

This is because you still dont have a clue as to the biology of the coronaviruses. These tests will pick up all the variants. In order to determine exactly what variants we have in a population we take many samples and sequence the RNA. The RNA sequencing shows us that the delta variant is 99% of the current cases. The delta has its own specific sequence that DOES NOT vary in the basic areas of the proteins the tests now test for nor the mRNA sequences test for.

Again, you march headlong into stuff you have no understanding of and sink in the mud.



I'm not playing your games because I've already been down this road and defined it before with others here.

You dont want to go down this road because Joe Biden by any real definition of communism and communist is NOT one.

What is your definition of the word, lets make this easier... the word, YES? What does yes mean, lets start simple so we can see what your new language actually translates to.

[spurraider21]

Doesnt make Joe any lesss senile
im ok with a guy misspeaking and just mixing words here and there. as opposed to claiming you should guzzle clorox and that the virus will magically go away by easter 2020

[ChumpDumper]

Show me proof there's testing for specifically the variants. Not a test that covers everything because those have been around from the get go and they're still the same old tests. I want a test specifically calling out the variants or else it's all lip service in my opinion. Everywhere I read it's said the tests are the same and can't necessarily differentiate and isolate any variants.



I'm not playing your games because I've already been down this road and defined it before with others here.Running for cover as usual.

[spurraider21]

Show me proof there's testing for specifically the variants. Not a test that covers everything because those have been around from the get go and they're still the same old tests. I want a test specifically calling out the variants or else it's all lip service in my opinion. Everywhere I read it's said the tests are the same and can't necessarily differentiate and isolate any variants.



I'm not playing your games because I've already been down this road and defined it before with others here.
there is a specific test, they run genomic sequencing tests to determine variants. they dont do this for every person's case because it would be expensive and time consuming. but they run them for some sample amounts to get a figure out how widespread it is. right now from those tests its known that delta accounts for something like 80% of cases in the US

[pgardn]

there is a specific test, they run genomic sequencing tests to determine variants. they dont do this for every person's case because it would be expensive and time consuming. but they run them for some sample amounts to get a figure out how widespread it is. right now from those tests its known that delta accounts for something like 80% of cases in the US

Yes.
83% if population who has covid, 97% of severe cases. Slightly diff numbers from diff sources.

[hater]

im ok with a guy misspeaking and just mixing words here and there. as opposed to claiming you should guzzle clorox and that the virus will magically go away by easter 2020

Of course you are ok with old Joe thinking we vaxed more americans than we physically have :lol

This is not surprising at all :lol

[pgardn]

Of course you are ok with old Joe thinking we vaxed more americans than we physically have :lol

This is not surprising at all :lol

So you think the Census is a correct count.

oh and lol....

Knowing how it was carried out you think it was right on or an OVER COUNT.
Seriously?

[hater]

So you think the Census is a correct count.

oh and lol....

Knowing how it was carried out you think it was right on or an OVER COUNT.
Seriously?

Yeah Joe said 350 million because of the census :lmao

Idiot

[boutons_deux]

The Numbers Start to Clarify

. The Israeli health ministry has been placing vaccine efficacy somewhere near 40% against infection – vastly lower than the original clinical trials and much lower than other current measurements.

A UK study in that went through May and was published in The New England Journal of Medicine on July 21st placed efficacy against the Delta variant at 88% (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891), only slightly less than against the Alpha variant.

But yesterday another UK study was released (https://spiral.imperial.ac.uk/bitstream/10044/1/90800/2/react1_r13_final_preprint_final.pdf) by the Imperial College London which showed substantially reduced efficacy against infection –

though apparently not hospitalization and disease.

This study puts vaccine efficacy against all infection at 49% and

against symptomatic infection at 59%.

At the same time though

efficacy against hospitalization and disease still seems to remain robust, at close to the same levels as the original clinical trials.

That’s obviously great news if you’re main interest is not dying from COVID.

efficacy against infection seems to be decoupling from efficacy against hospitalization and death.

For now it simply seems more clear that efficacy against mild infections is significantly reduced against the Delta variant.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-numbers-start-to-come-into-view

[pgardn]

Yeah Joe said 350 million because of the census :lmao

Idiot

No, he said 350 million because thats the number he was given.

No you see I am asking YOU, why you think its funny. Because I think you are an absolute turnip for using the Census numbers if you know how the Census was such an f up under Trump.
You are the one making the comparison to the Census by using ~ 331 million you dumb ass.

Good to see you got past the name calling after yet again attempting to misinform with your crappy stats.
Assad the LION... good lord...

[boutons_deux]

1409700004705435649

[pgardn]

The Numbers Start to Clarify

. The Israeli health ministry has been placing vaccine efficacy somewhere near 40% against infection – vastly lower than the original clinical trials and much lower than other current measurements.

A UK study in that went through May and was published in The New England Journal of Medicine on July 21st placed efficacy against the Delta variant at 88% (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891), only slightly less than against the Alpha variant.

But yesterday another UK study was released (https://spiral.imperial.ac.uk/bitstream/10044/1/90800/2/react1_r13_final_preprint_final.pdf) by the Imperial College London which showed substantially reduced efficacy against infection –

though apparently not hospitalization and disease.

This study puts vaccine efficacy against all infection at 49% and

against symptomatic infection at 59%.

At the same time though

efficacy against hospitalization and disease still seems to remain robust, at close to the same levels as the original clinical trials.

That’s obviously great news if you’re main interest is not dying from COVID.

efficacy against infection seems to be decoupling from efficacy against hospitalization and death.

For now it simply seems more clear that efficacy against mild infections is significantly reduced against the Delta variant.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-numbers-start-to-come-into-view

Good review of what I had seen.
Lets hope we can actually get more people vaccinated.

[Winehole23]

And youre making silly comparisons. Got it.how is it silly to weigh risks against benefits and other risks?

[pgardn]

1409700004705435649

Contact tracing within small units (from work, school, etc...) with more vaccinations still makes getting back to normal maybe sometime mid fall possible.

[boutons_deux]

Contact tracing within small units (from work, school, etc...) with more vaccinations still makes getting back to normal maybe sometime mid fall possible.

America doesn't do contact tracing. we're broke and fucking stupid

btw, I read that an San Antonio? school district notifies parents if had lice detected, but will not notify if covid-19 infection detected.

[pgardn]

America doesn't do contact tracing. we're broke and fucking stupid

btw, I read that an San Antonio? school district notifies parents if had lice detected, but will not notify if covid-19 infection detected.

"We" do.
Its an honor system but it really helps.
I also know there are some private schools my friends have kids in that keep a running board and they stayed open and full all of last year. It can be done on a small scale at work and schools by organizations willing. It wont be perfect, but it can clearly work.

Yeah thats definitely elementary, maybe into early middle school. I do not know which district that is but its not suprising as lice are very common in kids and that has been a long established practice. And it does embarrass parents. Its sort of associated with not washing hair and being dirty but those darn lice can hop really easily apparently from student to student. I remember being "searched" for lice in elementary school. I really liked it. The nurse took sort of chop stick looking sticks and moves over your scalp moving hair, it felt really good, i almost fell asleep.

[TSA]

No, he said 350 million because thats the number he was given.

No you see I am asking YOU, why you think its funny. Because I think you are an absolute turnip for using the Census numbers if you know how the Census was such an f up under Trump.
You are the one making the comparison to the Census by using ~ 331 million you dumb ass.

Good to see you got past the name calling after yet again attempting to misinform with your crappy stats.
Assad the LION... good lord...

Biden fucked up and said 350 million Americans have been vaccinated when he should have said 350 million doses have been administered. You're flailing around looking stupid not actually knowing what Biden said and lecturing hater on the census count :lol

[koriwhat]

im ok with a guy misspeaking and just mixing words here and there. as opposed to claiming you should guzzle clorox and that the virus will magically go away by easter 2020

I'm not ok with either.

[hater]

how is it silly to weigh risks against benefits and other risks?

You are weighing risks of vaccination vs "infection only"

Which is fucking stupid

You need to weigh risks of vaccination vs risks of covid disease. Not infection. Everyone is getting infected vaxed or not.

[Winehole23]

You are weighing risks of vaccination vs "infection only"

Which is fucking stupid

You need to weigh risks of vaccination vs risks of covid disease. Not infection. Everyone is getting infected vaxed or not.I think we're on the same page.

By "infection," I meant COVID disease plus any sequelae to infection, such as long COVID, which can pop up after mild and asymptomatic cases.

[pgardn]

Biden fucked up and said 350 million Americans have been vaccinated when he should have said 350 million doses have been administered. You're flailing around looking stupid not actually knowing what Biden said and lecturing hater on the census count :lol

You are correct.
Doses.

Easy mistake to make.
But I admit it.
You should try that some time when you get caught lying.

So I am doing something on ST one should NEVER EVER do.
My bad.

[pgardn]

I'm not ok with either.

Making a mistake and admitting it versus lying and never admitting it.
No difference... okay.

[koriwhat]

Making a mistake and admitting it versus lying and never admitting it.
No difference... okay.

Biden has made plenty of "mistakes" he's never owned up to like being the true racist in the oval office. Seriously can't fathom how anyone can back Biden and stand by him.

[spurraider21]

Of course you are ok with old Joe thinking we vaxed more americans than we physically have :lol

This is not surprising at all :lol
No, I’d be surprised if he actually thought that vs simply misspeaking.

[boutons_deux]

Milwaukee Bucks fans celebrated the NBA championship outside. 500 still got covid, officials say.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/05/milwaukee-bucks-superspreader-covid

[boutons_deux]

Sturgis Motorcycle Rally revs up, drawing thousands and heightening delta superspreader fears


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/06/sturgis-motorocycle-rally-covid-superspreader

[pgardn]

Biden has made plenty of "mistakes" he's never owned up to like being the true racist in the oval office. Seriously can't fathom how anyone can back Biden and stand by him.

My motto was anyone else is 2020.
And it got done. There is no win, just getting rid of pure and simple rot.
Sometimes thats all one can hope for.

[koriwhat]

My motto was anyone else is 2020.
And it got done. There is no win, just getting rid of pure and simple rot.
Sometimes thats all one can hope for.

It got done no doubt and was replaced with worse rot unfortunately.

[pgardn]

You are weighing risks of vaccination vs "infection only"

Which is fucking stupid

You need to weigh risks of vaccination vs risks of covid disease. Not infection. Everyone is getting infected vaxed or not.

Possibly.
If you are away from humanity and or take extra special care to stay in a hole.
Derp could go un infected.

[Winehole23]

1423724327598428162

[pgardn]

It got done no doubt and was replaced with worse rot unfortunately.

We will disagree on that forever.

And probably neither of us will understand why if it is the same as the relatives and some friends I have
There is absolutely no comparison in the degree of lying and trying to become president for your self gratification.
Trump has basically been quoted directly on this and not denying it in a new book. He said he just wanted the attention and that misinformation was the most beautiful thing in politics and he loved using it. He has accepted that as of right now. We will see if he changes his mind again and says he never said this because there are tapes where he says exactly this. I will wait for the book as it was trying to explain Trump and this whole lying phenomena that became so prominent. Ill read it for sure.

[SnakeBoy]

Contact tracing within small units (from work, school, etc...) with more vaccinations still makes getting back to normal maybe sometime mid fall possible.

Still thinking test and trace will contain the virus :lmao

[RandomGuy]

1423724327598428162

I was scrolling up and didn't see the "onion" at first.

Wouldn't put it past him at this point.

[pgardn]

Still thinking test and trace will contain the virus :lmao

Yes in certain locals like private schools and businesses it has already worked once.
It takes vaccination and tracing on a truthful and consistent level. It is much easier if people are held DIRECTLY accountable. IN small organizations this is absolutely doable. We can keep them at work and going to school without having to stay home or going in the hospital.

Some smaller private schools and businesses are going with masking again, contact tracing and Mandatory vaccinations. So we will see. I say it will work.

[Winehole23]

I was scrolling up and didn't see the "onion" at first.

Wouldn't put it past him at this point.The Onion esssentially does straight takes these days.

[pgardn]

The Onion esssentially does straight takes these days.

He is telling surgeons its ok to drip sweat and saliva in the OPEN body cavities of patients?

You have got to be kidding?

I could not get to the article.

[RedStripe]

He is telling surgeons its ok to drip sweat and saliva in the OPEN body cavities of patients?

You have got to be kidding?

I could not get to the article.
:lol

[Winehole23]

Still thinking test and trace will contain the virus :lmaoexcept, pgardn said nothing of the sort.

you can't tell a straight tale.

[ElNono]

Average Joe claims to have vaccinated 110% of americans :lmao

https://twitter.com/_PrinceCarlton_/status/1423676624273281028?s=19

Probably talking about # of shots...

[ElNono]

SR beat me to it

[ElNono]

Biden fucked up and said 350 million Americans have been vaccinated when he should have said 350 million doses have been administered.

This is all there's to it. Honest mistake. :tu

[pgardn]

except, pgardn said nothing of the sort.

you can't tell a straight tale.

Oh I just saw it, containing...

The disingenuous serpent.
He needs to be sliced in half by a ho...

[pgardn]

This is all there's to it. Honest mistake. :tu

And the things they let Trump get away with that really were lies...

[ElNono]

And the things they let Trump get away with that really were lies...

Well, obviously, there are different levels of being wrong and/or flat out making shit up...

but to TSA, Darrin, etc credit, I don't think they linked to a study that claimed household disinfectants are effective against COVID, tbh

[hater]

I think we're on the same page.

By "infection," I meant COVID disease plus any sequelae to infection, such as long COVID, which can pop up after mild and asymptomatic cases.

:tu

Cool

Whats the risk of that on under 12?

[hater]

Probably talking about # of shots...

No he wasnt

Hes.just confused. That happens to the elderly

[Winehole23]

:tu

Cool

Whats the risk of that on under 12?no idea, IIRC it's still being studied

[ElNono]

No he wasnt

Hes.just confused. That happens to the elderly

That happens to everybody, tbh... remember Obama and the # of States?

But I have no problem if you think Old Joe is senile.

[hater]

This is all there's to it. Honest mistake. :tu

He makes an honest mistake daily. Its ok that happens to senile men

[hater]

That happens to everybody, tbh... remember Obama and the # of States?

But I have no problem if you think Old Joe is senile.

:tu

I have a problem w ppl that think old Joe is NOT senile.

Facts disagree 2 those morons

[ElNono]

Hopefully that means we're getting closer to President Harris triggering dem snowflakes :tu

[koriwhat]

Hopefully that means we're getting closer to President Harris triggering dem snowflakes :tu

Yall hated Trump so much yet root for more despicable trash in the oval office. SMH

[ElNono]

Yall hated Trump so much yet root for more despicable trash in the oval office. SMH

I dunno about "more despicable". Certainly debatable.

[koriwhat]

I dunno about "more despicable". Certainly debatable.

Tell me the last time Trump gave the eulogy for a KKKlansman? How about the last time he told blacks they ain't black, pushed through harsher laws that would beat down the minority communities and put more black fathers behind bars, how about his VP and her use of slave labor when most those she used were up for parole but she kept them in chains, etc... Yes, more despicable than Trump and his administration no doubt.

[boutons_deux]

Unvaccinated adults who had the virus face a risk of reinfection, the C.D.C. says.

People who were infected with the coronavirus but do not get vaccinated

may be more than twice as likely to get infected again than those who tested positive and bolstered their natural immunity with a vaccine

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/06/health/covid-vaccine-reinfection.html

[ElNono]

Tell me the last time Trump gave the eulogy for a KKKlansman? How about the last time he told blacks they ain't black, pushed through harsher laws that would beat down the minority communities and put more black fathers behind bars, how about his VP and her use of slave labor when most those she used were up for parole but she kept them in chains, etc... Yes, more despicable than Trump and his administration no doubt.

I can tell you the last time Trump shat on the Constitution, tried to subvert democracy, and incited a coup. Those things are much more important to me than an eulogy or some silly remark.

I'm not defending Harris in the slightest, I don't like her either. But I do think she's way, way less dangerous than orangina.

Again, debatable.

[koriwhat]

I can tell you the last time Trump shat on the Constitution, tried to subvert democracy, and incited a coup.

Hyperbole. I still want to hear from the Capitol PD that ushered some of those MAGA's into the Capitol itself by removing the barricades and inviting them in. :lmao

How about the subversion by the dems during the "Summer of Love"? Nothing? How about right before with that dumb cunt James Brown trying to incite violent riots? Nothing huh?... None of that is hyperbole though.

[ElNono]

Hyperbole. I still want to hear from the Capitol PD that ushered some of those MAGA's into the Capitol itself by removing the barricades and inviting them in. :lmao

How about the subversion by the dems during the "Summer of Love"? Nothing? How about right before with that dumb cunt James Brown trying to incite violent riots? Nothing huh?... None of that is hyperbole though.

Nothing hyperbolic about it. His lawyers are currently getting penalized or losing their law licenses due to abusing the court system, which also damages democracy. That's a very real and measurable outcome of his lying, and there's no hyperbole about it.

He continues to claim the VP should've ignored the Constitution and not confirm the results of fair and free elections.

The people that attempted the coup in the Capitol included one that was shot dead and multiple ones that are facing charges. You go tell them this is all hyperbole and not real.

Dennison isn't just a moron, he's a dangerous moron. That's what separates him from the pack.

[spurraider21]

The Onion esssentially does straight takes these days.
Trumpers are hard to satirize

[koriwhat]

Nothing hyperbolic about it. His lawyers are currently getting penalized or losing their law licenses due to abusing the court system, which also damages democracy. That's a very real and measurable outcome of his lying, and there's no hyperbole about it.

He continues to claim the VP should've ignored the Constitution and not confirm the results of fair and free elections.

The people that attempted the coup in the Capitol included one that was shot dead and multiple ones that are facing charges. You go tell them this is all hyperbole and not real.

Dennison isn't just a moron, he's a dangerous moron. That's what separates him from the pack.

:lol

[ElNono]

You don't have to agree with me, Joey... everything I posted there, except for the very last line, are facts.

[hater]

Hopefully that means we're getting closer to President Harris triggering dem snowflakes :tu

Yeah lets get a horrible US president just to trigger them Trumptards :lmao

[ElNono]

Yeah lets get a horrible US president just to trigger them Trumptards :lmao

We (barely) survived a Prez that spoke like a 6 year old, we can survive Harris, tbh...

[koriwhat]

You don't have to agree with me, Joey... everything I posted there, except for the very last line, are facts.

Your truth and only your truth bro. :lol

[koriwhat]

We (barely) survived a Prez that spoke like a 6 year old, we can survive Harris, tbh...

Biden speaks like an infant though... GooGoo GahGah

[ElNono]

Your truth and only your truth bro. :lol

No Joey, that's reality.

You are free to opine that none of that is a big deal and I'm free to opine the opposite. That's fine. That's why I said it was debatable.

[ElNono]

Biden speaks like an infant though... GooGoo GahGah

Old Joe speaks like an old man, because he is an old man.

[spurraider21]

. wrong thread

[RandomGuy]

He's a travelling hospitalist. They're all a miserable group even before covid.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/06/us/houston-baby-girl-airlifted-covid/index.htmlxc

Baby girl with Covid-19 airlifted 150 miles because of Houston hospital bed shortage

But hey, it's just a cold, right?







until it fills the hospitals. You stupid fuck.

[hater]

We (barely) survived a Prez that spoke like a 6 year old, we can survive Harris, tbh...

If the goal is to survive retarded prezes just to trigger the other team we are in some real trouble tnqh

[ElNono]

If the goal is to survive retarded prezes just to trigger the other team we are in some real trouble tnqh

I don't pick the candidates, tbh, it is what it is.

[hater]

I don't pick the candidates, tbh, it is what it is.

But you root to trigger the other team. Wish you wouldnt ma nig. Its unhealthy and a dead end situation.

[Blake]

Biden has made plenty of "mistakes" he's never owned up to like being the true racist in the oval office. Seriously can't fathom how anyone can back Biden and stand by him.

He said while prepping his needles waiting to draw an out of proportion eagle on some poor soul's butt cheek

[DarrinS]

Gotta go clean the pool house. Hosting a Delta party tomorrow. :tu

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao trying to flex on ST

[DarrinS]

:lmao trying to flex on ST


Super small scale compared to Obama's. :lol

[pgardn]

But you root to trigger the other team. Wish you wouldnt ma nig. Its unhealthy and a dead end situation.

You can say this without laughing at yourself ... nigga?
Assad the Lion... gtfoh

[SnakeBoy]

Hopefully that means we're getting closer to President Harris triggering dem snowflakes :tu

lol

I didn't know Trump tweets had fucked you up so bad tbh

Oh well, I told you libs 4 years ago you would be voting for Kamala and you all lol'ed. Now you're all pretending that you liked doing it. Only a matter of time before it eats you up and trigger da libs will be great again. I'll bide my time :lol

[ElNono]

But you root to trigger the other team. Wish you wouldnt ma nig. Its unhealthy and a dead end situation.

I love the entertainment, won't deny that :lol

[ElNono]

lol

I didn't know Trump tweets had fucked you up so bad tbh

Oh well, I told you libs 4 years ago you would be voting for Kamala and you all lol'ed. Now you're all pretending that you liked doing it. Only a matter of time before it eats you up and trigger da libs will be great again. I'll bide my time :lol

^^^ this is what I mean by President Harris triggering dem snowflakes :lol

[DarrinS]

Ever notice when talk about the rate of hospitalization and death for vaccinated people, they use the entire population of vaccinated people as the denominator?

When did we start doing that?

The denominator should be the number of infected vaccinated people.

[ElNono]

Ever notice when talk about the rate of hospitalization and death for vaccinated people, they use the entire population of vaccinated people as the denominator?

When did we start doing that?

The denominator should be the number of infected vaccinated people.

The problem is that we don't really know that number? I would suspect that vaccinated people getting actively tested is pretty low?

[DarrinS]

Its a difficult thing to estimate, just like CFR vs IFR, but we never used the entire US population as a denominator back when vaccines weren't available.

[DarrinS]

The problem is that we don't really know that number? I would suspect that vaccinated people getting actively tested is pretty low?

Definitely. Our testing in the US is pathetic compared to UK.

[DarrinS]

But you can't just divide hospitalizations and deaths by the total vaccinated and get an accurate number.

[ElNono]

Its a difficult thing to estimate, just like CFR vs IFR, but we never used the entire US population as a denominator back when vaccines weren't available.

But we were actively testing people, because the situation in general was different.

I think the idea is that vaccinated people, even if infected, are at a lower risk. Breakthrough cases are generally rare.

We still have ~half the country unvaccinated, probably saving the tests for those people.

[ElNono]

But you can't just divide hospitalizations and deaths by the total vaccinated and get an accurate number.

If you're measuring breakthrough cases, why not?

[DarrinS]

But we were actively testing people, because the situation in general was different.

I think the idea is that vaccinated people, even if infected, are at a lower risk. Breakthrough cases are generally rare.

We still have ~half the country unvaccinated, probably saving the tests for those people.


We have no idea (because we aren't tracking it) how many vaccinated people are getting infected.

[ElNono]

We have no idea (because we aren't tracking it) how many vaccinated people are getting infected.

Sure. But by counting all vaccinated you're basically assuming the worst case scenario, where all vaccinated people are deemed infected.

[DarrinS]

Sure. But by counting all vaccinated you're basically assuming the worst case scenario, where all vaccinated people are deemed infected.

Its not the worst case scenario, its the most optimistic scenario.

Before vaccine, we measured morbidity/mortality of covid by hospitalizations and deaths divided by known positive tests. Not divided by the entire US population

[DarrinS]

The better messaging is that the vast majority of hospitalization and death are unvaccinated, which is true.

[ElNono]

Its not the worst case scenario, its the most optimistic scenario.

Before vaccine, we measured morbidity/mortality of covid by hospitalizations and deaths divided by known positive tests. Not divided by the entire US population

Is that the case? My understanding is that we were counting raw hospitalizations and deaths numbers, regardless of number of infected.

[Thread]

Is that the case? My understanding is that we were counting raw hospitalizations and deaths numbers, regardless of number of infected.

Boiled down:::

234k of dead Americans on mother fucker Biden's side the COVID Death ledger.

[DarrinS]

Is that the case? My understanding is that we were counting raw hospitalizations and deaths numbers, regardless of number of infected.


We calculate case fatality rate by deaths/cases.

[ElNono]

We calculate case fatality rate by deaths/cases.

I'll take your word for it

[DarrinS]

We calculate case fatality rate by deaths/cases.


Which is why IFR is much lower. We don't know the true denominator, but we know is much larger than confirmed cases. Still, the denominator is not the entire population.

[ElNono]

Which is why IFR is much lower. We don't know the true denominator, but we know is much larger than confirmed cases. Still, the denominator is not the entire population.

I also wonder what's the amount of people that had COVID previously and were unvaccinated. Those are also technically breakthrough cases. In some cases it might be difficult to tell, especially if they didn't have severe symptoms.

[DarrinS]

I also wonder what's the amount of people that had COVID previously and were unvaccinated. Those are also technically breakthrough cases. In some cases it might be difficult to tell, especially if they didn't have severe symptoms.


Probably a large number of people infected and not accounted for.

[Winehole23]

It has been estimated that, assuming in-person schooling goes on as planned, 40%-70% of school kids will be infected by SARS-CoV-2 during the next three months. Even if the incidence of disease and hospitalization are low, given the probable large number of cases, the absolute numbers of each will be large.

Which I guess is fine and well so long as someone else's kid ends up in the hospital or an early grave.

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[Ef-man]

I also wonder what's the amount of people that had COVID previously and were unvaccinated. Those are also technically breakthrough cases. In some cases it might be difficult to tell, especially if they didn't have severe symptoms.

People who had the initial covid virus may not be immune to the delta variant as they are different. Much like the seasonal flu change or due there being more varieties, one can get sick with flu more than once.

It would be foolish not to get the free vaccine and avoid any of the expenses (great or small) or physical harm associated with the delta variant.

[DarrinS]

It has been estimated that, assuming in-person schooling goes on as planned, 40%-70% of school kids will be infected by SARS-CoV-2 during the next three months. Even if the incidence of disease and hospitalization are low, given the probable large number of cases, the absolute numbers of each will be large.

Which I guess is fine and well so long as someone else's kid ends up in the hospital or an early grave.

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Childless person still fretting about in-person schooling.

[Winehole23]

you don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing

[Winehole23]

COVID rules at school should be at least as strict as those for head lice

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[DarrinS]

you don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing


Fat man in basement posting on ST 24/7 is probably safe.

Leave the kids alone.

[Winehole23]

lol Darrin avoiding the topic and the points made

[DarrinS]

Whinehole cares about the kids

[Winehole23]

Whinehole cares about the kidsI do.

[Winehole23]

Biden is blowing it.

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

iF WaTeR wOrKs sO gUD fOr dEhYdRatIoN, wHy Do i HaVe tO keeP dRinKinG It?

[Thread]

Biden is blowing it.

Stings, don't it?

[Thread]

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Stings, don't it?

[Thread]

Probably a large number of people infected and not accounted for.

& mother fucker Biden sure as hell ain't a gonna account for 'em now.

tee, hee.

[Blake]

Childless person still fretting about in-person schooling.

Kids bring it home to their families who then potentially take it out into the public places.

You posted this at 1am. Lol drunk.

[Winehole23]

Kids bring it home to their families who then potentially take it out into the public places.

You posted this at 1am. Lol drunk.Dumb Darrin doesn't get how we're all connected.

[Winehole23]

emergency services suspended

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[Blake]

emergency services suspended

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Aww and no foldren around to tell us there's plenty of room at the hospitals

[boutons_deux]

‘Nothing to be afraid of’: Anti-vaxxer said he was ‘glad’ to catch COVID –

it killed him days later

https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzE0OTQxNy9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTYyODkwMzU0NX0.oCbi6kPvY sdcHdwaybuov2D5P35cw3CvwaJ-KPqd1ok/image.jpg?width=1200&height=675

A Cambridge-educated man who posted a video to social media downplaying the threat of COVID-19 has died from the virus

Solicitor Leslie Lawrenson, 58, died in home in Bournemouth, Dorset,

just over a week after he shared a video claiming that COVID is nothing to be afraid of.

Lawrenson refused to be vaccinated because he felt he didn't need it.

He had no underlying health problems.

https://www.rawstory.com/anti-vaxxer-dies

For you rednecks, in England a solicitor is a lawyer

[pgardn]

University Hospital is loaded.
Elective in patient surgery services suspended.
Entire floor devoted to Covid... again.

Was this avoidable, yes.
United we stand... America first... sure thing.
Every man for himself, man overboard. muh rights...BTW, we are business friendly in our State. Health Insurance companies may now take a leave of absence.

[hater]

Biden is blowing it.

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The 400k upcoming rotting american carcasses are on him. He might beat Trump as biggest american murderer in history

[Winehole23]

The 400k upcoming rotting american carcasses are on him. He might beat Trump as biggest american murderer in historylol rooting for COVID

#StillWithHim

[Winehole23]

University Hospital is loaded.
Elective in patient surgery services suspended.
Entire floor devoted to Covid... again.

Was this avoidable, yes.
United we stand... America first... sure thing.
Every man for himself, man overboard. muh rights...BTW, we are business friendly in our State. Health Insurance companies may now take a leave of absence.England's Delta spike has abated, but they had lockdowns and mask mandates.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8MTbGbWQAI66xj?format=jpg&name=large

[hater]

lol rooting for COVID

#StillWithHim

You sure were when Dump was prez.

Lol cheerleader

[Winehole23]

You sure were when Dump was prez.

Lol cheerleaderI was for paying people to stay home, travel bans, robust testing/contact tracing and quarantines -- to beat COVID.

I was against DJT (among other reasons) because he did none of these things and even made COVID worse.

Sorry your man's logorrhea and incompetence got him canned, maybe that's what you liked about him.

[hater]

I was for paying people to stay home, travel bans, robust testing/contact tracing and quarantines -- to beat COVID.

I was against DJT because he did none of these things and even made COVID worse.

Sorry your man's logorrhea and incompetence got him canned, maybe that's what you liked about him.


Old Joe is also not doing much of what you list there. Hes i competent as well correct?

[Winehole23]

Old Joe is also not doing much of what you list there. Hes i competent as well correct?Yes, absolutely. I've said so several times in the past few months.

My take has been consistent, whereas yours blows with the wind or gets tailored to the narrative du jour.

[hater]

Yes, absolutely. I've said so several times in the past few months.

Good. Agreed. Joe killing of americans is comparable to Trumps murders. Both are legendary butchers

[Winehole23]

Good. Agreed. Joe killing of americans is comparable to Trumps murders. Both are legendary butchersyou're so full of it

[hater]

Im so full of it

Agreed as well.

[ChumpDumper]

Meh, the vast majority of people dying have chosen their adventure. Biden tried to pay them to save themselves. What else is there to do?

[Winehole23]

Meh, the vast majority of people dying have chosen their adventure. Biden tried to pay them to save themselves. What else is there to do?Vaccination alone won't help now. The same suite of non-medical inventions that were used worldwide last year to mitigate infection are still available in principle to prevent population level impacts.

The Biden Administration is taking a flyer on all of them and has been behind the back to school push. I see that as an abdication of public health responsibilities and just plain bad decisionmaking in service of political expediency-- little different from Trump, tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

Vaccination alone won't help now. The same suite of non-medical inventions that were used worldwide last year to mitigate infection are still available in principle to prevent population level impacts.

The Biden Administration is taking a flyer on all of them and has been behind the back to school push. I see that as an abdication of public health responsibilities and just plain bad decisionmaking in service of political expediency-- little different from Trump, tbh.I understand your POV, but the most effective mitigation tactics are local-level; and those officials have given up if they ever adopted them at all. People simply will not change their behavior again unless they see personal consequences. This got politicized and will never be unpoliticized, so it's going to be a horribly slow slog waiting for private companies mandating vaccinations and finally insurance companies' closing their purses for significant gains to be made.

[Winehole23]

I understand your POV, but the most effective mitigation tactics are local-level; and those officials have given up if they ever adopted them at all. People simply will not change their behavior again unless they see personal consequences. This got politicized and will never be unpoliticized, so it's going to be a horribly slow slog waiting for private companies mandating vaccinations and finally insurance companies' closing their purses for significant gains to be made.I don't disagree, but the Biden Administration messaging and decisions have been horrible. Telling vaccinated people to throw away their masks a couple months back was monumentally short-sighted. So is rushing kids back to school.

The "return to normality" narrative is objectively bad, imho. It creates expectations that can't be satisfied while COVID is spreading uncontrolled.