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Play Boban
05-11-2020, 09:07 AM
... eternal misunderstanding what Darwin really meant
prove it

boutons_deux
05-11-2020, 09:32 AM
prove it

Do Your Own Research

-- Wild Cobra

TSA
05-11-2020, 11:02 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1259679492706099200

https://mobile.twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1259679959209164803

boutons_deux
05-11-2020, 11:14 AM
Every CV-19 denier, every CV-19 truther should be made to read this nightmarish story.

https://images.dailykos.com/images/803472/story_image/DarleneKrawetz.jpg?1589129293https://images.dailykos.com/images/803474/large/DarleneKrawetzII.jpg?1589130319


has worked at a VA Hospital in Syracuse, New York. Ms. Krawetz is 52 years old, and is a vegetarian. She hikes, and kayaks. She is a former smoker, but it is not clear how many years she smoked, and how long it has been since she quit smoking.


"I started getting symptoms right before New York shut down. I mix up my dates. My mind is all foggy.

I’ve been a nurse for 30 years, and now I can’t even remember if my last Tylenol was five minutes or five hours ago.

It feels like electricity is burning through my spine, and nobody can tell me why.

It’s like I’m sucking air through a straw.

When I stand up, my ears start ringing until dizziness forces me back down.

Every symptom is a whole new mystery.

This virus is unpredictable and so, so violent.

I’m up to 140 now. See?

It’s relentless. How long can a heart last like this?

The palpitations come a few times every hour and go on for a minute or more. It’s just banging, banging, banging, banging.

It hurts too much to talk. I’ll try again later. I have to lie down and breathe through it. That’s what they tell me to do."

"One of my relatives went on Facebook and wrote that this whole virus is overblown, or maybe even a hoax."

"I hate this virus. It’s been two months of uncertainty and I don’t think I can take any more.

Why are my legs burning? Why is my skin so hot? I need answers. I need help."

Then, her fever spiked again, and she was admitted back into the hospital.

Her fever would not come down.

The doctors told her that she had blood clots on her lungs, and a mass on one of her organs.

They were trying to figure it out.

As of May 7, there was no timeline, and no prognosis.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/5/10/1944058/-Every-CV-19-denier-and-CV-19-truther-should-be-made-to-read-this-nightmarish-story?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/5/10/1944058/-Every-CV-19-denier-and-CV-19-truther-should-be-made-to-read-this-nightmarish-story?detail=emaildkre)

Play Boban
05-11-2020, 11:15 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1259679492706099200

https://mobile.twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1259679959209164803
Where are they getting 31 million cases to date tbh? Is that an estimate based on missed cases up to this point?

Play Boban
05-11-2020, 11:28 AM
Do Your Own Research

-- Wild Cobra
I’m too important to do my own research . I gave bit ides

boutons_deux
05-11-2020, 01:43 PM
Even Germany's excellent pandemic management is not completely winning

Germany's coronavirus reproduction rate remains above critical threshold

The reproduction rate for the coronavirus pandemic in Germany remained above the critical threshold of 1 with ​

an estimated value of 1.07 on Monday after 1.13 on Sunday,

which could signal the beginning of a second wave of the pandemic in Europe’s largest economy.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany/germanys-coronavirus-reproduction-rate-remains-above-critical-threshold-idUSKBN22N2KF?feedType=RSS&feedName=healthNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FhealthNews+%28Reute rs+Health+News%29 (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany/germanys-coronavirus-reproduction-rate-remains-above-critical-threshold-idUSKBN22N2KF?feedType=RSS&feedName=healthNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FhealthNews+%28Reute rs+Health+News%29)

Reck
05-11-2020, 01:47 PM
I guess we're just that great that we wont get a second wave or any more hotspots like China, South Korea has had post their peak and had to close shit up again. Trump got this tbh. USA USA

hater
05-11-2020, 01:55 PM
https://twitter.com/quicktake/status/1259699786996944898?s=21

this is cool

hater
05-11-2020, 01:56 PM
Trump should commandeer his factories to do one better than the chinese and create a sanitizer that will not only sanitize outside the body but inject UV lights and sanitizer inside the individual.

he can call it the Trumpistan 20000 :lol

MAGA

ChumpDumper
05-11-2020, 02:05 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1259679492706099200

https://mobile.twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1259679959209164803What's this guy's model for when everything opens up?

DarrinS
05-11-2020, 02:09 PM
What's this guy's model for when everything opens up?

Not a model

Reck
05-11-2020, 02:23 PM
Not a model

What makes us so very special, Darrin?

The country with the most cases, most death is suddenly looking amazing with no possibility of a second wave. Checks outs..

ChumpDumper
05-11-2020, 02:24 PM
Not a modelI didn't say his posts were models, genius. He said he was right all along, so he had a model of some sort for what he says he was right about all along. What's his model going forward?

boutons_deux
05-11-2020, 02:25 PM
The massage damage of The Trump Pandemic to USA does not come from China, but from negligent homicide criminal Trump and his criminal mafiya.

Here's one Trash's capos deflecting blame from his Don

Peter Navarro Threatens Economic Retaliation Against China for Coronavirus:

‘A Bill Has to Come Due’

Navarro threatened retaliation against China for spreading the coronavirus pandemic across the world,

claiming someone has to be held financially accountable.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/peter-navarro-threatens-economic-retaliation-against-china-for-coronavirus-a-bill-has-to-come-due/ (https://www.mediaite.com/tv/peter-navarro-threatens-economic-retaliation-against-china-for-coronavirus-a-bill-has-to-come-due/)

China's gonna send USA $100Bs?

BSfromTX
05-11-2020, 02:34 PM
https://twitter.com/quicktake/status/1259699786996944898?s=21

this is cool

You can not sterilize a human body. Disinfect? Maybe, but that depends on how low of a CFU you can get without hurting the body or any of the good bacteria.

Play Boban
05-11-2020, 02:38 PM
I sterilize my body daily via Lysol injections. I also jam incandescent light bulbs up my ass and snort hyrdoqocloroquine. When I got corona I kept on going out because it strengthened me.

picnroll
05-11-2020, 02:51 PM
White House Directs Officials to Wear Masks at All Times Inside White House

https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-directs-officials-to-wear-masks-at-all-times-inside-white-house-source-11589224333?mod=mhp

So does this mean alt right repugs will be picketing The WH with guns?

ChumpDumper
05-11-2020, 02:54 PM
White House Directs Officials to Wear Masks at All Times Inside White House

https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-directs-officials-to-wear-masks-at-all-times-inside-white-house-source-11589224333?mod=mhpThey feelin' it now. Everyone but Trump will be wearing them.


So does this mean alt right repugs will be picketing The WH with guns?
LIBERATE THE WHITE HOUSE!

Reck
05-11-2020, 02:59 PM
They feelin' it now. Everyone but Trump will be wearing them.


LIBERATE THE WHITE HOUSE!

Or not.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo2RtYAlJY0

I want to so badly for these faggots to catch it and die a painful death. All of them.

ChumpDumper
05-11-2020, 03:03 PM
Or not.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo2RtYAlJY0

I want to so badly for these faggots to catch it and die a painful death. All of them.This is apparently a new order. I'm sure there will be all kinds of stupidity surrounding these guys in denial inside and outside the WH.

Medvedenko
05-11-2020, 03:26 PM
LOL, Trump's billboards behind him! All about tests...I thoughts tests weren't that necessary? What a flip flopper! Tests are good for the WH, regular people, not so much. Now they finally get....80k+ deaths....leader of the shit heap. Also, why do they keep comparing to S Korea...? Makes no sense as they suck at tests per 1m. So many more countries are testing at a higher result. Do they think people are dumb and don't know how to use google and find out themselves?

TimDunkem
05-11-2020, 03:44 PM
LOL, Trump's billboards behind him! All about tests...I thoughts tests weren't that necessary? What a flip flopper! Tests are good for the WH, regular people, not so much. Now they finally get....80k+ deaths....leader of the shit heap. Also, why do they keep comparing to S Korea...? Makes no sense as they suck at tests per 1m. So many more countries are testing at a higher result. Do they think people are dumb and don't know how to use google and find out themselves?

Yes. Literally half of this country thinks like that.

TimDunkem
05-11-2020, 03:45 PM
Physically went back into work today. Tons of people out not wearing masks. .


It won't be long until there are too many cases to ignore and we lock down again.

Reck
05-11-2020, 03:55 PM
Trump understand women better than they do themselves. What a guy!

ChumpDumper
05-11-2020, 03:57 PM
Physically went back into work today. Tons of people out not wearing masks. .


It won't be long until there are too many cases to ignore and we lock down again.I know there is going to be an increase in cases. What I want to know is what are the metrics the state and federal governments think are acceptable-- infections, hospitalizations, deaths? This is really what it comes down to and what every government seems to want to hide.

ChumpDumper
05-11-2020, 04:05 PM
Now Trump doesn't want to think about the number of people who are going to die.

Leadership!

baseline bum
05-11-2020, 04:05 PM
Physically went back into work today. Tons of people out not wearing masks. .


It won't be long until there are too many cases to ignore and we lock down again.

Trump already got his bait and switch corporate bailout that allows Mnuchin to drop another $500 billion of relief onto corporate America eight more times. With that out of the way Grim Reaper McConnell says that's it for aid. There will likely be no more federally endorsed closures no matter how bad things get until January 20th, 2021 at the earliest.

TimDunkem
05-11-2020, 04:08 PM
Trump already got his bait and switch corporate bailout that allows Mnuchin to drop another $500 billion of relief onto corporate America eight more times. With that out of the way Grim Reaper McConnell says that's it for aid. There will likely be no more federally endorsed closures no matter how bad things get until January 20th, 2021 at the earliest.

I know Trump is abdicating from any responsibility. Personally, I hold out hope that some governors eventually appeal to common sense, but I doubt it too.

Reck
05-11-2020, 04:09 PM
Reporter: You accused Obama of committing the worst crime in history, what crime is that?

Trump: You know which crime.

Very informative.

ChumpDumper
05-11-2020, 04:10 PM
Reporter: You accused Obama of committing the worst crime in history, what crime is that?

Trump: You know which crime.

Very informative.President derp

baseline bum
05-11-2020, 04:12 PM
I know Trump is abdicating from any responsibility. Personally, I hold out hope that some governors eventually appeal to common sense, but I doubt it too.

Don't you live in Texas too? Good luck with that. :lol

CosmicCowboy
05-11-2020, 04:17 PM
Trump already got his bait and switch corporate bailout that allows Mnuchin to drop another $500 billion of relief onto corporate America eight more times. With that out of the way Grim Reaper McConnell says that's it for aid. There will likely be no more federally endorsed closures no matter how bad things get until January 20th, 2021 at the earliest.

Why have federal closures when we can have local rolling closures as needed? Bexar county has 2 million people and 8 new community cases yesterday. Do you really feel we should be locked down?

CosmicCowboy
05-11-2020, 04:19 PM
Trump already got his bait and switch corporate bailout that allows Mnuchin to drop another $500 billion of relief onto corporate America eight more times. With that out of the way Grim Reaper McConnell says that's it for aid. There will likely be no more federally endorsed closures no matter how bad things get until January 20th, 2021 at the earliest.

Why have federal closures when we can have local rolling closures as needed? Bexar county has 2 million people and 8 new community cases yesterday. Do you really feel we should be locked down?

boutons_deux
05-11-2020, 04:26 PM
South Korea’s new coronavirus cases show the perils of reopening


Just one sick person led to a sudden increase of new infections in South Korea.

https://www.vox.com/2020/5/11/21254451/south-korea-nightclub-outbreak-coronavirus-infections-reopening-dangers

Reck
05-11-2020, 04:38 PM
Watching that presser was worth it just for the end.

What an epic retard we have as president.

ChumpDumper
05-11-2020, 04:39 PM
:lol Trump runs away after being terrified by women, one of them Asian.

TimDunkem
05-11-2020, 04:40 PM
Don't you live in Texas too? Good luck with that. :lol
Yeah I'm not holding my breath. :lol

boutons_deux
05-11-2020, 04:43 PM
1259947023916285952


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spurraider21
05-11-2020, 04:45 PM
1259960334707838976

spurraider21
05-11-2020, 04:51 PM
:lol Trump runs away after being terrified by women, one of them Asian.
asian reporter playing the race card was cringey imo.

ChumpDumper
05-11-2020, 04:53 PM
asian reporter playing the race card was cringey imo.She's probably a little hypervigilant after the "kung flu" comment she got from an unnamed staffer.

hater
05-11-2020, 04:55 PM
:lmao Orangegutan is out his league tbqh :lol

poor bastard

called it

baseline bum
05-11-2020, 04:58 PM
Why have federal closures when we can have local rolling closures as needed? Bexar county has 2 million people and 8 new community cases yesterday. Do you really feel we should be locked down?

We won't have them anyways since GOP governors other than Baker and Hogan take their marching orders from Trump.

LkrFan
05-11-2020, 05:00 PM
Time: 6pm
Date: May 11, 2020

80,239 Trump deaths (and counting)

TimDunkem
05-11-2020, 05:02 PM
Time: 6pm
Date: May 11, 2020


81,552 Trump deaths (and counting)

Fixed.

Blake
05-11-2020, 05:15 PM
Trump already got his bait and switch corporate bailout that allows Mnuchin to drop another $500 billion of relief onto corporate America eight more times. With that out of the way Grim Reaper McConnell says that's it for aid. There will likely be no more federally endorsed closures no matter how bad things get until January 20th, 2021 at the earliest.

Trickle down!

boutons_deux
05-11-2020, 05:15 PM
Trump angrily shuts down questions about coronavirus testing at press conference on coronavirus testing

Trump held a press conference specifically dedicated to coronavirus testing, telling gathered reporters

the U.S. has "prevailed" over its testing shortages :lol and

saying anyone could get a test if they want one. :lol

But when those reporters noted that thousands of Americans still haven't been able to access tests,

Trump angrily shut them down.https://theweek.com/speedreads/913908/trump-angrily-shuts-down-questions-about-coronavirus-testing-press-conference-coronavirus-testinghttps://theweek.com/speedreads/913908/trump-angrily-shuts-down-questions-about-coronavirus-testing-press-conference-coronavirus-testing

baseline bum
05-11-2020, 05:32 PM
Yeah I'm not holding my breath. :lol

Probably should when faggots not wearing masks pass by tbh

LkrFan
05-11-2020, 06:28 PM
Fixed.

Dayum. SMH

hater
05-11-2020, 06:36 PM
Fixed.

81,759

Winehole23
05-11-2020, 07:01 PM
Why have federal closures when we can have local rolling closures as needed? Bexar county has 2 million people and 8 new community cases yesterday. Do you really feel we should be locked down?The cities and states have done the lion's share of the political heavy lifting on this and will again. I don't expect the pattern of Trump leading from behind and flooding the zone with shit to change either.

boutons_deux
05-11-2020, 08:31 PM
Genocidal so-called Christian Americans should be embarrassed, shamed, but they simply aren't capable

Doctors Without Borders sends team to Navajo Nation as coronavirus explodes in Native communities

“The organization has teams in Afghanistan, Iran, Sierra Leone, Venezuela and 66 other countries.

It did not, however, have a medical presence in the United States – until now.”

“The team consists of
two physicians,
three nurse/midwives,
a water sanitation specialist,
two logisticians and
a health promoter who specializes in community health education.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/doctors-without-borders-sends-team-to-navajo-nation-as-coronavirus-explodes-in-native-communities/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/doctors-without-borders-sends-team-to-navajo-nation-as-coronavirus-explodes-in-native-communities/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

CosmicCowboy
05-11-2020, 08:49 PM
The cities and states have done the lion's share of the political heavy lifting on this and will again. I don't expect the pattern of Trump leading from behind and flooding the zone with shit to change either.

I think the local solution is the best solution. Dont you? What works in NYC is overkill in San Marco's.

Blake
05-11-2020, 08:56 PM
I think the local solution is the best solution. Dont you? What works in NYC is overkill in San Marco's.

Depends. But if that's the case what do we even need the federal government for? Secede.

hater
05-11-2020, 09:02 PM
I think the local solution is the best solution. Dont you? What works in NYC is overkill in San Marco's.

unless you want to have checkpoints on every entrance/exit of the locality, local solution is not a solution but a failure

to be successful you would need a larger regional solution if not state solution that includes travel restrictions tbqh. (see wuhan)

CosmicCowboy
05-11-2020, 09:07 PM
unless you want to have checkpoints on every entrance/exit of the locality, local solution is not a solution but a failure

to be successful you would need a larger regional solution if not state solution that includes travel restrictions tbqh. (see wuhan)

Are you really so scared you would surrender to a totalitarian lockdown like Wuhan?

spurraider21
05-11-2020, 09:08 PM
I think the local solution is the best solution. Dont you? What works in NYC is overkill in San Marco's.
i think decisions have to be considered at the local level... but thats also somewhat a recipe for disaster because i doubt each of the localities are going to behave responsibly. this is the time for the leaders to step up

hater
05-11-2020, 09:09 PM
Are you really so scared you would surrender to a totalitarian lockdown like Wuhan?

nothing totalitarian about beating a virus

we called the tracing and quarantining totalitarian until we saw it worked for them

plus Italy and other countries have done that too

wake up the virus will change our life sooner r later

CosmicCowboy
05-11-2020, 09:12 PM
i think decisions have to be considered at the local level... but thats also somewhat a recipe for disaster because i doubt each of the localities are going to behave responsibly. this is the time for the leaders to step up

It's time for PEOPLE to behave responsibly. We all know the reasonable rules. Marshall Law from the federal or state level is not the answer.

spurraider21
05-11-2020, 09:15 PM
It's time for PEOPLE to behave responsibly. We all know the reasonable rules. Marshall Law from the federal or state level is not the answer.
we already know that PEOPLE won't. they've demonstrated that. will a good amount be responsible? yes. majority? sure. but it doesnt take a majority to put the majority at risk

who has proposed martial law?

ChumpDumper
05-11-2020, 09:16 PM
It's time for PEOPLE to behave responsibly. We all know the reasonable rules. Marshall Law from the federal or state level is not the answer.Martial, but point taken. My only counterpoint is people are already breaking the rules and government leaders are just getting around to recognizing them as they are getting infected. The leaders still aren't doing shit tbh.

Nathan89
05-11-2020, 09:31 PM
https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1259966472031330309?s=20

These propaganda pushers make it very easy to vote for Trump tbh. Always pushing bullshit narratives and conspiracies. It's really a double edged sword for Dems to have all these outlets shilling for them.

Nathan89
05-11-2020, 09:35 PM
https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1259966472031330309?s=20

These propaganda pushers make it very easy to vote for Trump tbh. Always pushing bullshit narratives and conspiracies. It's really a double edged sword for Dems to have all these outlets shilling for them.

Not testing is bad.

Trying to test more than any other country is also bad.

ChumpDumper
05-11-2020, 09:39 PM
Not testing is bad.

Trying to test more than any other country is also bad.:lol you didn't notice this whole presser represented a complete 180 from his initial stance on testing?

This stupid motherfucker gets bullied into doing the right thing two months too late because he's always waiting for the polling.

Nathan89
05-11-2020, 09:44 PM
:lol you didn't notice this whole presser represented a complete 180 from his initial stance on testing?

This stupid motherfucker gets bullied into doing the right thing two months too late because he's always waiting for the polling.

The CDC botched the test. That's why it was delayed. I've mentioned this countless times and you respond with pure rubbish.

Reck
05-11-2020, 09:50 PM
It’s totally amazing that that’s what Nathan is taking from that complete meltdown. That it just got easier to vote for Trump. :lol

ChumpDumper
05-11-2020, 09:51 PM
The CDC botched the test. That's why it was delayed. I've mentioned this countless times and you respond with pure rubbish.Sorry, Trump downplayed testing from the start. That has nothing to do with the actual tests.

vy65
05-11-2020, 09:58 PM
I think the local solution is the best solution. Dont you? What works in NYC is overkill in San Marco's.

If you ask DMC, the local solution brought us Di Blasio's genocide of New Yorkers.

pgardn
05-11-2020, 10:01 PM
I think the local solution is the best solution. Dont you? What works in NYC is overkill in San Marco's.

Sure.

But when States ask for money and the federal government has already pocketed it large share from taxpayers? Give the damn money to the States.
They have told Trump what they need and hes says find it yourself your citizens already got a break from us???

Winehole23
05-11-2020, 10:02 PM
Of local interest, perhaps


Dallas and Fort Bend counties in Texas, where decisions are made locally, are on a "locations to watch" list because they have recorded increases in numbers of cases of 116.8 percent and 64.8 percent, respectively.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1204751

picnroll
05-11-2020, 10:03 PM
Another study shows drug touted by Trump doesn’t help coronavirus patients, but it can raise heart attack risk


Another study shows that hydroxychloroquine — a drug President Donald Trump said showed promise in treating the coronavirus — appears to not help Covid-19 patients and, instead, places them at increased risk of heart attack.


Hydroxychloroquine taken in conjunction with azithromycin was associated with “significantly elevated levels of cardiac arrest” even after adjusting for factors such as sex, age, underlying health conditions and more severe illness, according to a new study in the JAMA Network published Monday.


The New York State Department of Health, in partnership with the University of Albany, had been conducting a so-called observational study that researchers hoped could shed some insight into the drug’s potential effectiveness.


Researchers at the University of Albany’s School of Public Health analyzed more than 1,400 medical records of hospitalized patients with Covid-19 across 25 hospitals in the New York metro area between March 15 and March 28.


At least 735 patients received hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin, 271 hydroxychloroquine alone, 211 azithromycin alone, and 221 received neither drug. The researchers said they did not “observe a significant benefit” of the administered drugs.


“This observational study has given us an important early look at some key questions related to prescribing patterns of hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and chloroquine,” David Holtgrave, dean at the University of Albany’s School of Public Health and a researcher working with the state, said in a statement to CNBC. “Unfortunately, we did not observe benefits of the most used drug (hydroxychloroquine with or without azithromycin) in this group of seriously ill, hospitalized patients.”


Observational studies aren’t considered as conclusive as randomized controlled trials, because doctors can prescribe a variety of other drugs to treat an infection. The less formal process, however, can yield faster results and help with the approval process of some treatments.


This is the second study in less than a week to conclude that hydroxychloroquine may not be helpful to patients.


On Thursday, a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine found that the drug didn’t appear to help hospitalized patients with Covid-19.


That study, funded by the National Institutes of Health and conducted by researchers at New York-Presbyterian Hospital and Columbia University Irving Medical Center in New York City, looked at 1,376 consecutive patients who showed up at the emergency room with symptoms of coronavirus.


Nearly 60%, or 811 of the patients, received the drug within 48 hours and were found, on average, to be more severely ill than those who didn’t receive the drug, the researchers said. They said the study didn’t find any potential benefit or harm from the drug, adding a rigorous, randomized clinical trial is needed.


The new findings come after the Food and Drug Administration warned consumers against chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid-19 outside a hospital or formal clinical trial setting.


The agency said it became aware of reports of “serious heart rhythm problems” in patients with the virus who were treated with the malaria drugs, often in combination with antibiotic azithromycin, commonly known as a Z-Pak.


Chloroquine was approved by the FDA in 1949 to treat malaria. Hydroxychloroquine is often used by doctors to treat rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.


The researchers said the findings should be considered by physicians and patients in concert with findings from randomized controlled trials, other empirical studies, NIH treatment guidelines and FDA drug safety communications.


Hydroxychloroquine taken in conjunction with azithromycin was associated with “significantly elevated levels of cardiac arrest” even after adjusting for factors such as sex, age, underlying health conditions and more severe illness, according to a new study in the JAMA Network published Monday.


The New York State Department of Health, in partnership with the University of Albany, had been conducting a so-called observational study that researchers hoped could shed some insight into the drug’s potential effectiveness.


Researchers at the University of Albany’s School of Public Health analyzed more than 1,400 medical records of hospitalized patients with Covid-19 across 25 hospitals in the New York metro area between March 15 and March 28.


Mayo Clinic cardiologist on risks of hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19 treatment
At least 735 patients received hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin, 271 hydroxychloroquine alone, 211 azithromycin alone, and 221 received neither drug. The researchers said they did not “observe a significant benefit” of the administered drugs.


“This observational study has given us an important early look at some key questions related to prescribing patterns of hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and chloroquine,” David Holtgrave, dean at the University of Albany’s School of Public Health and a researcher working with the state, said in a statement to CNBC. “Unfortunately, we did not observe benefits of the most used drug (hydroxychloroquine with or without azithromycin) in this group of seriously ill, hospitalized patients.”


Observational studies aren’t considered as conclusive as randomized controlled trials, because doctors can prescribe a variety of other drugs to treat an infection. The less formal process, however, can yield faster results and help with the approval process of some treatments.


This is the second study in less than a week to conclude that hydroxychloroquine may not be helpful to patients.


On Thursday, a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine found that the drug didn’t appear to help hospitalized patients with Covid-19.


That study, funded by the National Institutes of Health and conducted by researchers at New York-Presbyterian Hospital and Columbia University Irving Medical Center in New York City, looked at 1,376 consecutive patients who showed up at the emergency room with symptoms of coronavirus.


Nearly 60%, or 811 of the patients, received the drug within 48 hours and were found, on average, to be more severely ill than those who didn’t receive the drug, the researchers said. They said the study didn’t find any potential benefit or harm from the drug, adding a rigorous, randomized clinical trial is needed.


The new findings come after the Food and Drug Administration warned consumers against chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid-19 outside a hospital or formal clinical trial setting.


The agency said it became aware of reports of “serious heart rhythm problems” in patients with the virus who were treated with the malaria drugs, often in combination with antibiotic azithromycin, commonly known as a Z-Pak.
Chloroquine was approved by the FDA in 1949 to treat malaria. Hydroxychloroquine is often used by doctors to treat rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.
The researchers said the findings should be considered by physicians and patients in concert with findings from randomized controlled trials, other empirical studies, NIH treatment guidelines and FDA drug safety communications.

looks like the final results are in on Dr Trumps miracle elixir. So does Trash get extra credit for the Hydroxychloriquine kills?

baseline bum
05-11-2020, 10:04 PM
I think the local solution is the best solution. Dont you? What works in NYC is overkill in San Marco's.

The cities and states can't force production of PPE, tests, ventilators, etc.

Blake
05-11-2020, 10:05 PM
It's time for PEOPLE to behave responsibly. We all know the reasonable rules. Marshall Law from the federal or state level is not the answer.

Why even have rules when we all have common sense!

Jeez

Blake
05-11-2020, 10:07 PM
https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1259966472031330309?s=20

These propaganda pushers make it very easy to vote for Trump tbh. Always pushing bullshit narratives and conspiracies. It's really a double edged sword for Dems to have all these outlets shilling for them.

Well you're a racist asshole so I can see why voting for Trump comes very easy to you

ElNono
05-11-2020, 10:09 PM
Maybe in another two months we'll have the best contact tracing, tbh...

Blake
05-11-2020, 10:10 PM
If you ask DMC, the local solution brought us Di Blasio's genocide of New Yorkers.

:cry but there's nothing for the POTUS to do!

FlAVaK
05-11-2020, 10:20 PM
Trump should commandeer his factories to do one better than the chinese and create a sanitizer that will not only sanitize outside the body but inject UV lights and sanitizer inside the individual.

he can call it the Trumpistan 20000 :lol

MAGA


The ad will probably look like this:


https://youtu.be/z5LW07FTJbI

Winehole23
05-11-2020, 10:20 PM
The 10 top areas recorded surges of 72.4 percent or greater over a seven-day period compared to the previous week, according to a set of tables produced for the task force by its data and analytics unit. They include Nashville, Tennessee; Des Moines, Iowa; Amarillo, Texas; and — atop the list, with a 650 percent increase — Central City, Kentucky.

Winehole23
05-11-2020, 10:24 PM
The cities and states can't force production of PPE, tests, ventilators, etc. in South Korea the government got out of the way and let the companies make whatever might be needful, that's another notable difference. Trump hoarded fucked up the supply chain.

hater
05-11-2020, 10:26 PM
Maryland has recorded 1,000 infections per day for last 3 days

called it

DC area will be next Bergamo / NYC

weebo
05-11-2020, 10:27 PM
https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1259966472031330309?s=20

These propaganda pushers make it very easy to vote for Trump tbh. Always pushing bullshit narratives and conspiracies. It's really a double edged sword for Dems to have all these outlets shilling for them.

Are you serious with this shit? :lol No one in their right mind is voting for trump (only deluded racist Trump humpers). Fuck Trump--so far over 80k Americans have died on his watch and millions are unemployed--instead of acting like a teenage freshmen high school twat he should have acted sooner to protect Americans. No one wants to vote for Biden but they'll vote for him just to vote against Trump.

DMC
05-11-2020, 10:36 PM
Are you serious with this shit? :lol No one in their right mind is voting for trump (only deluded racist Trump humpers). Fuck Trump--so far over 80k Americans have died on his watch and millions are unemployed--instead of acting like a teenage freshmen high school twat he should have acted sooner to protect Americans. No one wants to vote for Biden but they'll vote for him just to vote against Trump.

:lol

What's the alternative? What did you offer up when the time came? Hillary?

:lmao

Reck
05-11-2020, 10:37 PM
:lol

What's the alternative? What did you offer up when the time came? Hillary?

:lmao

A whole full day of shitposting. Take a break, fat man.

spurraider21
05-11-2020, 10:38 PM
:lol

What's the alternative? What did you offer up when the time came? Hillary?

:lmao
i wasnt aware his vote was so important!

weebo
05-11-2020, 10:40 PM
:lol

What's the alternative? What did you offer up when the time came? Hillary?

:lmao

Hey pig. :lol

80k Americans dead d/t CV19; millions of unemployed Americans. At this point, a nutless monkey could do just as bad as Trump running this country into the shitter. :lol

baseline bum
05-11-2020, 10:41 PM
Are you serious with this shit? :lol No one in their right mind is voting for trump (only deluded racist Trump humpers). Fuck Trump--so far over 80k Americans have died on his watch and millions are unemployed--instead of acting like a teenage freshmen high school twat he should have acted sooner to protect Americans. No one wants to vote for Biden but they'll vote for him just to vote against Trump.

This could be a dream scenario for Trump though. COVID ravages the cities scaring the shit out of low income brown people to keep them fromt showing in November while Trumptards who think it's a hoax show out in force. Low turnout is always critical for the GOP to win elections and the pandemic could be a huge helping hand for this fuck.

TimDunkem
05-11-2020, 10:45 PM
Businesses ignoring guidelines already, people congregating, masks not being worn, "SayChineseVirus.com" - which directs to InfoWars - being flown on an airplane banner over San Antonio....

And some are actually naive enough to think there won't be anyone behaving irresponsibly.

weebo
05-11-2020, 10:45 PM
:lol

What's the alternative? What did you offer up when the time came? Hillary?

:lmao


This could be a dream scenario for Trump though. COVID ravages the cities scaring the shit out of low income brown people to keep them fromt showing in November while Trumptards who think it's a hoax show out in force. Low turnout is always critical for the GOP to win elections and the pandemic could be a huge helping hand for this fuck.

I'm not so sure about that...just look at Wisconsin...voters there stood up for democracy and braving for hours in line during the middle of a pandemic despite the GOPutins doing everything to keep them from the voting booth.

baseline bum
05-11-2020, 10:48 PM
I'm not so sure about that...just look at Wisconsin...voters there stood up for democracy and braving for hours in line during the middle of a pandemic despite the GOPutins doing everything to keep them from the voting booth.

That was more the early days of the pandemic, at least from the American view. The general election will likely be right in the middle of the pandemic. Lots of dead Americans seems like a workable strategy for the GOP when led by a cult of personality.

ChumpDumper
05-11-2020, 10:50 PM
i wasnt aware his vote was so important!:lmao

DMC's only offense is scolding schoolmarm, but it is a nice break from his deflectornado defense.

weebo
05-11-2020, 10:52 PM
I'm not so sure about that...just look at Wisconsin...voters there stood up for democracy and braving for hours in line during the middle of a pandemic despite the GOPutins doing everything to keep them from the voting booth.


That was more the early days of the pandemic, at least from the American view. The general election will likely be right in the middle of the pandemic. Lots of dead Americans seems like a workable strategy for the GOP when led by a cult of personality.

Wisconsin took place 4 weeks ago. The pandemic was already top news.

DMC
05-11-2020, 10:58 PM
A whole full day of shitposting. Take a break, fat man.

Take your hormone treatment, Becky.

baseline bum
05-11-2020, 10:59 PM
Wisconsin took place 4 weeks ago. The pandemic was already top news.

I hope that fuck gets destroyed but I'm very nervous about turnout.

DMC
05-11-2020, 10:59 PM
i wasnt aware his vote was so important!

Didn't ask about his vote, dipshit. You folks pushed Hillary to the front and fucked Bernie over in the process. Offer up something more challenging so that an orange reality TV clown doesn't beat the shit out of them again.

ChumpDumper
05-11-2020, 11:01 PM
Didn't ask about his vote, dipshit. You folks pushed Hillary to the front and fucked Bernie over in the process. Offer up something more challenging so that an orange reality TV clown doesn't beat the shit out of them again.You're talking about their votes for Hillary, miss.

spurraider21
05-11-2020, 11:01 PM
Didn't ask about his vote, dipshit. You folks pushed Hillary to the front and fucked Bernie over in the process. Offer up something more challenging so that an orange reality TV clown doesn't beat the shit out of them again.
how would she get pushed without votes? :lol

DMC
05-11-2020, 11:02 PM
Hey pig. :lol

80k Americans dead d/t CV19; millions of unemployed Americans. At this point, a nutless monkey could do just as bad as Trump running this country into the shitter. :lol

But that nutless monkey has to win the election first. chop chop

weebo
05-11-2020, 11:02 PM
I hope that fuck gets destroyed but I'm very nervous about turnout.

I'm showing up.

DMC
05-11-2020, 11:03 PM
how would she get pushed without votes? :lol

Ask the DNC who railroaded Bernie by funneling all the funding to Hillary.

Are you really this fucking dense?

DMC
05-11-2020, 11:03 PM
I'm showing up.

Can you legally vote?

weebo
05-11-2020, 11:03 PM
But that nutless monkey has to win the election first. chop chop

Soon pig. :lol

weebo
05-11-2020, 11:04 PM
Can you legally vote?

Ask your wife after I'm done trimming her bush. :lol

DMC
05-11-2020, 11:04 PM
Ask your wife after I'm done trimming her bush. :lol

Haven't had any day workers here tbh

Reck
05-11-2020, 11:04 PM
Take your hormone treatment, Becky.

You might want to start tbh. You got scalped today pretty badly.

Need a new makeover to go along with your new image.

ChumpDumper
05-11-2020, 11:05 PM
Ask the DNC who railroaded Bernie by funneling all the funding to Hillary.

Are you really this fucking dense?:lol facile adoption of Berniebro conspiracy theory as part of the new deflectornado.

weebo
05-11-2020, 11:09 PM
Haven't had any day workers here tbh

Don't kid yourself pig. She's seen more chorizo than an HEB freezer :lol

DMC
05-11-2020, 11:09 PM
You might want to start tbh. You got scalped today pretty badly.

Need a new makeover to go along with your new image.

I could have a beer and get over it while you feel the need to have a lopitoffamy and sit on a 12 incher.

DMC
05-11-2020, 11:10 PM
Don't kid yourself pig. She's seen more chorizo than an HEB freezer :lol

I'm sure you've seen your share of chorizo yourself.

weebo
05-11-2020, 11:11 PM
I'm sure you've seen your share of chorizo yourself.

Bend over I'll give ya a fuckin chorizo. :lol

DMC
05-11-2020, 11:12 PM
Bend over I'll give ya a fuckin chorizo. :lol

I wouldn't waste my time for a chilito.

Reck
05-11-2020, 11:12 PM
I could have a beer and get over it while you feel the need to have a lopitoffamy and sit on a 12 incher.

What’s that? You need to get buzzed before getting raw dogged? Rock on, meathands.

DMC
05-11-2020, 11:14 PM
What’s that? You need to get buzzed before getting raw dogged? Rock on, meathands.

I don't get a buzz from a beer, Becky. Maybe your bull dyke lover does, but that's not really a dude despite the flat top and biker wallet.

weebo
05-11-2020, 11:15 PM
I wouldn't waste my time for a chilito.

Your wife did that one time your porked her :lol

Reck
05-11-2020, 11:18 PM
I don't get a buzz from a beer, Becky. Maybe your bull dyke lover does, but that's not really a dude despite the flat top and biker wallet.

You sure? You’re coming off pretty desperate here.

1 is one too many for you despite all that fat mass you’re carrying around.

Blake
05-11-2020, 11:47 PM
Shouldn't be too surprising, I always use napkins to grab stuff at serve yourself places but still...

1258786799851376641

Nathan89
05-11-2020, 11:50 PM
Are you serious with this shit? :lol No one in their right mind is voting for trump (only deluded racist Trump humpers). Fuck Trump--so far over 80k Americans have died on his watch and millions are unemployed--instead of acting like a teenage freshmen high school twat he should have acted sooner to protect Americans. No one wants to vote for Biden but they'll vote for him just to vote against Trump.

Yeah, people die during pandemics. And people become unemployed when people stop doing business during a pandemic. Thanks for the input though. I'm always interested in what the galaxy brains are thinking.

Nathan89
05-11-2020, 11:54 PM
This could be a dream scenario for Trump though. COVID ravages the cities scaring the shit out of low income brown people to keep them fromt showing in November while Trumptards who think it's a hoax show out in force. Low turnout is always critical for the GOP to win elections and the pandemic could be a huge helping hand for this fuck.

Damn how will we make the right choice without the input of the low income voters?

Blake
05-11-2020, 11:57 PM
Damn how will we make the right choice without the input of the low income voters?

Nathan believes in the oligarchy to do the right thing for him

Winehole23
05-12-2020, 12:00 AM
Nathan believes in the oligarchy to do the right thing for himToo generous by half. In herrenvolk democracy not all of the people count as people.

baseline bum
05-12-2020, 12:05 AM
Damn how will we make the right choice without the input of the low income voters?

Your boy is in office because of low income white voters. Just say you don't want ######s to vote.

ElNono
05-12-2020, 12:08 AM
I hope that fuck gets destroyed but I'm very nervous about turnout.

You should be more nervous about turnout because of old Joe... more so than the pandemic, tbh, IMVHO.

slick'81
05-12-2020, 12:08 AM
Your boy is in office because of low income white voters. Just say you don't want ######s to vote.


Base just dropped the n bomb:wow

Nathan89
05-12-2020, 12:09 AM
Your boy is in office because of low income white voters. Just say you don't want ######s to vote.

He's also in office because of the millions of former Obama voters that voted for him.

Nathan89
05-12-2020, 12:09 AM
Your boy is in office because of low income white voters. Just say you don't want ######s to vote.

He's also in office because of the millions of former Obama voters that voted for him.

Nathan89
05-12-2020, 12:15 AM
"The low income brown people won't vote"

Translated:

I'm really concerned that the people that we continuously race bait and are dependent on failed government policies won't be able to prolong these failures.

baseline bum
05-12-2020, 12:19 AM
"The low income brown people won't vote"

Translated:

I'm really concerned that the people that we continuously race bait and are dependent on failed government policies won't be able to prolong these failures.

LOL Trumptard accusing anyone of race baiting. Your boy's entire campaign began on Obama's birth certificate.

Winehole23
05-12-2020, 12:19 AM
Your boy is in office because of low income white voters. Just say you don't want ######s to vote.Old folks seem to be turning against Trump. Swing state internals suck and Biden is staying ahead by keeping his head down.

The GG Wentworth move on Social Security is gonna be great:

I HAVE A STRUCTURED ANNUITY, BUT I NEED CASH NOW!

ElNono
05-12-2020, 12:20 AM
Your boy is in office because of low income white voters. Just say you don't want ######s to vote.


He's also in office because of the millions of former Obama voters that voted for him.

Well, those could be one and the same, tbh... that said, Shillary got just about as many votes as Obama did to beat Romney (IIRC, she was ~200.000 under).

Then again, popular vote doesn't matter.

Nathan89
05-12-2020, 12:46 AM
LOL Trumptard accusing anyone of race baiting. Your boy's entire campaign began on Obama's birth certificate.

Yeah, Dems love racial division. They also like gender division and that's why they push fake pay gap nonsense for decades. And it's why Biden doesn't care about the presumption of innocence. They do the same shit with race. And they'll continue to do that going forward. Studies show conservatives whites have a lower in-group bias than the average black or Hispanic. Racism isn't a major threat from conservatives. Going forward it should be even less but that could change as a result of the left preaching white hatred.

ElNono
05-12-2020, 12:48 AM
:lmao:lmao:lmao

Winehole23
05-12-2020, 12:49 AM
^^^legal equality for women and non-whites feels like deprivation, poor baby!

ElNono
05-12-2020, 12:52 AM
Talks how Dems love racial division. Pulls the reverse-racism card. All in the same post...

Winehole23
05-12-2020, 01:03 AM
Talks how Dems love racial division. Pulls the reverse-racism card. All in the same post...To deny skin tint discrimination in the USA is delusion or propaganda. White supremacy was constitutionally ordained at the founding. There were two Reconstructions, but both of them failed.

The south lost the war and won the peace twice.

It's high time for a 3rd Reconstruction.

boutons_deux
05-12-2020, 04:35 AM
Coronavirus Live Updates: New Clusters Across Asia Show Fleeting Face of Victory

Several Asian countries hailed for controlling the spread of the virus have learned that progress can be hard to sustain.

Wuhan, China, where the virus emerged last year, orders all residents tested after six new cases are found.

New clusters in countries praised for successful coronavirus fights show fleeting face of victory.

Concerns about prejudice hamper efforts to find nightclub visitors in a new South Korea cluster.

The U.K. government’s plan to ease the lockdown sowed confusion about what to do, and when.


As a small number of new cases emerge in Wuhan, the city orders tests for all residents.


China marks the anniversary of a disaster with echoes in the present.


In Mexico City, the sound of quarantine has rhythm.


Latest in science: A second wave of the virus in the United States may come sooner than expected.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/12/world/coronavirus-news.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/12/world/coronavirus-news.html)

boutons_deux
05-12-2020, 04:41 AM
Latest in science:

A second wave of the virus in the United States may come sooner than expected.

a much-feared “second wave” of infection may not wait until fall and

instead may become (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/11/health/coronavirus-second-wave-infections.html) a series of wavelets breaking unpredictably across the country.

Evidence is mounting (https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202004.0203/v1) that masks — if worn in public places, by everyone — are far more effective (https://masks4all.co/) at stopping transmission than was previously realized (https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-basic-dance-steps-everybody-can-follow-b3d216daa343).

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/12/world/coronavirus-news.html#link-3326a902

boutons_deux
05-12-2020, 04:46 AM
Workplace worries mount as US tracks new COVID-19 cases

as President Donald Trump urges getting people back to work and reopening the economy,

thousands of new coronavirus infections are being reported daily, many of them job-related.

Recent figures show a surge of cases in meat-packing and poultry-processing plants.

There’s been a spike of new infections among construction workers in Austin, Texas, where that sector recently returned to work.

“The people who are getting sick right now are generally people who are working,”

“That risk is going to increase the more people are working.”

the 15 U.S. counties with the highest per-capita infection rates between April 28 and May 5, all are homes to meatpacking and poultry-processing plants or state prisons,

https://apnews.com/ca81c7b25c28945361d716ed5835b658?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=morningwire&pnespid=he58oONJGw_NzYlNc6AcyIJg_2o6TLwb567S2GZV

boutons_deux
05-12-2020, 05:07 AM
How the Right-Wing Disinformation Loop Helped Kill Virus Research Funding

Matt Gaetz floated a conspiracy theory about a public health initiative on Fox News. The White House defunded it. Then, Trump lashed out at 60 Minutes for reporting the story.

donald Trump lashed out at CBS after its flagship news program, 60 Minutes, aired a segment (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-coronavirus-vaccine-researcher-covid-19-cure-60-minutes/) detailing how a right-wing coronavirus conspiracy goaded the White House into defunding a vital research nonprofit.

Trump’s fit came shortly after CBS aired an interview with Peter Daszak, the president of EcoHealth Alliance.

The organization, which has worked with China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology to study bat-related viruses, lost its $3.4 million grant (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/05/09/coronavirus-us-cuts-funding-group-studying-bat-viruses-china/3088205001/) from the National Institutes of Health last month.

Matt Gaetz, a Trump ally and Florida Republican, appeared on one of the president’s favorite Fox News programs and, without evidence, connected EcoHealth’s grant to China “birth[ing] a monster” virus.

Daszak, whose organization is currently aiding in coronavirus research, essentially predicted its outbreak 17 years ago.

“What worries me the most is that we are going to miss the next emerging disease,

that we’re suddenly going to find a SARS virus that moves from one part of the planet to another,

wiping out people as it moves along,” he said during a 2003 interview on 60 Minutes.

Daszak noted that his nonprofit’s promising testing of “the breakthrough drug” remdesivir as a potential COVID-19 treatment would not have been possible without the NIH grant.

EcoHealth, which, as CBS notes, has indexed hundreds of bat viruses during its 15 years collaborating with the Wuhan virology institute,

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/right-wing-media-trump-kill-coronavirus-research-funding?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=VF_Hive_051220&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&hashc=54b3612ab970ce13a64a16665b1987080ca5b72e2ee7 62b722fbba6ab378f2f5&esrc=bounceX&utm_campaign=VF_Hive_051220&utm_term=VYF_Hive

Ignorant asshole Trash being played by ignorant asshole Gaetz into defunding bat virus research, in Trash/Repug strategy of scapegoating China and WHO for the Trash-made The Trump Pandemic

boutons_deux
05-12-2020, 05:21 AM
Wuhan will test 11 million citizens for coronavirus after six new cases emerged

six new cases were reported for the first time since the city lifted its lockdown in early April.

The ambitious plan to test such a large number of people after the discovery of a relatively small cluster underscores

how seriously China takes the threat of a second wave of coronavirus infections.

https://qz.com/1855895/wuhan-to-test-11-million-people-for-coronavirus-after-new-cluster/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=daily-brief

Trash, Repugs, red/slave states?

"fuck it, all y'all get back to work. This flu ain't no goddamn problem.

We need all y'all as cannon fodder to maintain/increase OUR wealth (not y'all's).

We all know one's wealth is one's wealth, and we want you to risk your wealth to protect our wealth"

boutons_deux
05-12-2020, 05:50 AM
"While Germany was on lockdown last month,

each person there with the coronavirus was infecting fewer than one other person on average.

Now, that number — known as “R factor” and closely tracked by scientists — has risen to about 1.1. "

-- NY Times email

anti-leader Trash haranguing the compliant red states to re-open will sicken and kill 100Ks, and

no Repug will accept responsibility nor shed a tiny tear,

while blaming China and WHO for their own willfully negligent manslaughter.

boutons_deux
05-12-2020, 06:06 AM
Trump Labor Department Encourages States to Help Employers Report Workers Who Stay Home Due to Covid-19 Fears

"There's a plague outside but the Trump administration is strongly encouraging states to solicit employer tips on workers staying home."

Trump's Department of Labor is openly encouraging ongoing state efforts (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/05/08/about-evil-it-gets-state-reopens-ohio-urges-employers-snitch-workers-who-stay-home) to help employers report workers who refuse to return to their jobs out of fear of contracting the coronavirus.

the Labor Department said "states are strongly encouraged to request employers to provide information when workers refuse to return to their jobs for reasons that do not support their continued eligibility for benefits."

"We also strongly encourage states to remind employers and the public about the claimant and employer fraud resources within each state,"

Labor Department ... said

"states and localities have an obligation to spot and detect waste and fraud in the unemployment insurance system and

report it to the U.S. Department of Labor's Office of Inspector General and other appropriate channels."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/05/12/trump-labor-department-encourages-states-help-employers-report-workers-who-stay-home?cd-origin=rss (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/05/12/trump-labor-department-encourages-states-help-employers-report-workers-who-stay-home?cd-origin=rss)

The rotten Scalia bloodline is vengeful, corrupt, toxic (and Catholic)

If you don't risk your life for Capitalism, you will be criminalized for fraud.

hater
05-12-2020, 06:37 AM
wow a lot of ppl will be very dissapointed come November when Rapist Joes dead body gets put out its misery

boutons_deux
05-12-2020, 07:14 AM
Fox encouraging Other People to be Cannon Fodder For Capitalism. It's Patriotic to die for Capitalism

"Fox & Friends" hosts urge Americans to adopt “military mindset” to reopen economy "right now"

"The military mindset is a patriotic mindset," Pete Hegseth :lol says

adopt a "military mindset" to reopen the economy "right now"

Pete Hegseth (https://www.salon.com/2020/02/22/fox-and-friends-weekend-co-hostsays-democrats-and-the-media-are-the-agents-of-russia--not-trump/) promoting a 45-minute Fox Nation special known as "Modern Warriors," :lol

which "looks at the pandemic from a military point of view." :lol

"They break it down based on what they've seen on the battlefield," Hegseth said. :lol

"How they've transitioned back home. :lo

How you manage fear. :lol

How you manage anxiety. :lol

How you channel challenges." :lol

An anti-social distancing protest movement has taken root among a small but vocal group of right-wing Americans,

orchestrated and funded by Republican donors and conservative special interest organizations,

including massive Facebook groups run by zero-tolerance gun-rights activists (https://www.salon.com/2020/04/20/astroturf-gun-rights-activists-and-prominent-gop-donors-push-protests-of-coronavirus-restrictions/).

tells Hegseth that "these hardships are what bring people together." :lol

https://www.salon.com/2020/05/11/fox-and-friends-hosts-urge-americans-to-adopt-military-mindset-to-reopen-economy-right-now/

What a bunch of sick, perverted fucks, indoctrinated to spew shit that civilians should act like Special Ops,

that military service (serving American Predatory Imperial Capitalism world-wide) is a model for civilian life.

An ancient question: "What do you do with warriors after the wars?"

They become sick fucks spewing shit on Fox

Go ahead, Hegseth and others, go hug and kiss a symotomatic C19 victim, it's patriotic.

CosmicCowboy
05-12-2020, 07:35 AM
So Boukaki, how long do you want people to stay home? 6 months? a year? 2 years?

hater
05-12-2020, 07:38 AM
holy shit Legendary Putin spokesman Dmitry Peskov in hospital with Corona :wow

RIP that great niga

please take care of my hero Russian FM Lavrov :cry


RIP mother Russia :cry

hater
05-12-2020, 07:39 AM
oh and ventilator in Russia EXPLODES killing several at hospital


RIP mother Russia :cry

CosmicCowboy
05-12-2020, 07:41 AM
Assuming this is accurate, 43.8% of Covid deaths in Texas have been in nursing homes.

https://freopp.org/the-covid-19-nursing-home-crisis-by-the-numbers-3a47433c3f70

hater
05-12-2020, 07:42 AM
43.8% of Covid deaths in Texas have been in nursing homes.

56% have been outside nursing homes :wow

thats huge

picnroll
05-12-2020, 07:49 AM
oh and ventilator in Russia EXPLODES killing several at hospital


RIP mother Russia :cry

Was that one of the vents Trash sent Pootsie?

DMC
05-12-2020, 07:56 AM
Ask the DNC who railroaded Bernie by funneling all the funding to Hillary.

Are you really this fucking dense?

Philo abandoning the thread again :lol

pgardn
05-12-2020, 08:21 AM
Was that one of the vents Trash sent Pootsie?

They do just fine blowing things up on their own.
I guess we heard about this one as it wasn’t radioactive.

boutons_deux
05-12-2020, 09:14 AM
So Boukaki, how long do you want people to stay home? 6 months? a year? 2 years?

It could be a long time, due to the Trash pushing to re-open, trying to salvage his doomed re-election, without what other countries have used to attack the pandemic.

CA has done probably the best effort in USA and is not seeing an increase, but sees a deadly plateau of infections and deaths.

Solutions would be definitive treatment or a vaccine,

but why hasn't Trump issued DPA to finance and command vaccine development and treatment developments,

instead of defunding probably the USA's more knowledgeable bat/coronavirus research operations because of Matt fucking Gaetz?

BSfromTX
05-12-2020, 09:48 AM
It could be a long time, due to the Trash pushing to re-open, trying to salvage his doomed re-election, without what other countries have used to attack the pandemic.

CA has done probably the best effort in USA and is not seeing an increase, but sees a deadly plateau of infections and deaths.

Solutions would be definitive treatment or a vaccine,

but why hasn't Trump issued DPA to finance and command vaccine development and treatment developments,

instead of defunding probably the USA's more knowledgeable bat/coronavirus research operations because of Matt fucking Gaetz?





I don't think there is any way to prevent a virus like this from spreading unless you lock up every last individual for 6 mos to a year (obviously impossible). Treatment and or vaccination might be the only solution, and I would plan to take a hard pass on the vaccination.

Winehole23
05-12-2020, 09:49 AM
Assuming this is accurate, 43.8% of Covid deaths in Texas have been in nursing homes.

https://freopp.org/the-covid-19-nursing-home-crisis-by-the-numbers-3a47433c3f70Good riddance, granny and gramps were dead weight anyway and didn't Dan Patrick recently urge them to be sacrificed for the common good and the greatness of the Texas economy?

picnroll
05-12-2020, 09:54 AM
Good riddance, granny and gramps were dead weight anyway and didn't Dan Patrick recently urge them to be sacrificed for the common good and the greatness of the Texas economy?

Be sure to kiss mom and dad goodbye before you send them off to the crematorium.

Trill Clinton
05-12-2020, 10:01 AM
What happened to the mandatory mask policy here in SA? I went to the HEB on Kitty Hawk and they weren't letting ANYONE in without a mask...which I appreciated. I go to the HEB in Schertz and there are a lot of people walking around without masks.

spurraider21
05-12-2020, 10:08 AM
Philo going to sleep again :lol
I’m sorry you felt abandoned.

“We folks” are not the DNC

clambake
05-12-2020, 10:31 AM
Assuming this is accurate, 43.8% of Covid deaths in Texas have been in nursing homes.

https://freopp.org/the-covid-19-nursing-home-crisis-by-the-numbers-3a47433c3f70

Yeah, probably has something to do with close contact....such as in places of business.

hater
05-12-2020, 10:38 AM
Yeah, probably has something to do with close contact....such as in places of business.

have you gone to a elderly care home lately

its a petri dish as old sick folks are usually parked in the hallways all day sitting in their wheelchairs sitting on shitted diapers

im shocked only 45% of those deaths are in those death traps

that means this virus is fucking real

clambake
05-12-2020, 10:50 AM
Looks like Susan Collins has got the essential tremor disorder shakes

BSfromTX
05-12-2020, 10:53 AM
What happened to the mandatory mask policy here in SA? I went to the HEB on Kitty Hawk and they weren't letting ANYONE in without a mask...which I appreciated. I go to the HEB in Schertz and there are a lot of people walking around without masks.

Was it HEB requiring it or the city?

baseline bum
05-12-2020, 11:03 AM
I don't think there is any way to prevent a virus like this from spreading unless you lock up every last individual for 6 mos to a year (obviously impossible). Treatment and or vaccination might be the only solution, and I would plan to take a hard pass on the vaccination.

You're an anti-vaxxer? Holy fuck. :rollin

baseline bum
05-12-2020, 11:03 AM
What happened to the mandatory mask policy here in SA? I went to the HEB on Kitty Hawk and they weren't letting ANYONE in without a mask...which I appreciated. I go to the HEB in Schertz and there are a lot of people walking around without masks.

Prob Bexar vs Guadalupe County laws

BSfromTX
05-12-2020, 11:05 AM
You're an anti-vaxxer? Holy fuck. :rollin

For some things, yes.

baseline bum
05-12-2020, 11:07 AM
For some things, yes.

Which things would those be? :lol

SpursforSix
05-12-2020, 11:15 AM
Which things would those be? :lol

Not that you asked me but the things that I think are OK to avoid are the flu vaccine (depending on your personal risk). And the stupid ass HPV vaccine that stupid ass was trying to mandate.

picnroll
05-12-2020, 11:21 AM
Not that you asked me but the things that I think are OK to avoid are the flu vaccine (depending on your personal risk). And the stupid ass HPV vaccine that stupid ass was trying to mandate.

You are truly nuts. I deal with a lot of cervical cancer and head and neck cancer, even in 30 yos, that would be prevented with a HPV vaccination. Any parent who doesn’t get their cild vaccinated is a CPA candidate imo.

Winehole23
05-12-2020, 11:24 AM
Not that you asked me but the things that I think are OK to avoid are the flu vaccine (depending on your personal risk). And the stupid ass HPV vaccine that stupid ass was trying to mandate.It's recommended by the CDC to prevent infection and cancer, what's your beef with it?

https://www.cdc.gov/hpv/parents/vaccine.html

BSfromTX
05-12-2020, 11:28 AM
Which things would those be? :lol

Flu. I have never had the vaccine, and I have had the flu once in the last 20 years. The flu vaccine is only a guess at what you may or may not be exposed to. I also believe for something that is not as serious, you would be better off developing a natural immunity. And no I don't fully trust that the government or CDC has my best interest at heart, and to argue different doesn't hold any more water.

picnroll
05-12-2020, 11:33 AM
Flu. I have never had the vaccine, and I have had the flu once in the last 20 years. The flu vaccine is only a guess at what you may or may not be exposed to. I also believe for something that is not as serious, you would be better off developing a natural immunity. And no I don't fully trust that the government or CDC has my best interest at heart, and to argue different doesn't hold any more water.
Hate to break it to you but catching this years flu won’t make you immune to catching next years flu.

At least with HPV you anti-vacciner nut jobs are only risking your children's’ future health and lives. With mumps, measles, etc. you’re risking innocent people’s lives like children whom were too young to get vaccinated yet.

TimDunkem
05-12-2020, 11:36 AM
Hate to break it to you but catching this years flu won’t make you immune to catching next years flu.

People shun vaccines without even knowing the damn basics of immunology. :lol BS from Texas indeed.

Winehole23
05-12-2020, 11:36 AM
Flu. I have never had the vaccine, and I have had the flu once in the last 20 years. The flu vaccine is only a guess at what you may or may not be exposed to. I also believe for something that is not as serious, you would be better off developing a natural immunity. And no I don't fully trust that the government or CDC has my best interest at heart, and to argue different doesn't hold any more water.Do you distrust the CDC's advice about Gardasil specifically, or is it more like a vague, handwavy distrust of government in general?

BSfromTX
05-12-2020, 11:36 AM
Hate to break it to you but catching this years flu won’t make you immune to catching next years flu.

You are correct, but I wasn't necessarily saying that.

BSfromTX
05-12-2020, 11:44 AM
Do you distrust the CDC's advice about Gardasil specifically, or is it more like a vague, handwavy distrust of government in general?

HPV, in my opinion, is hard to question. My daughter received the vaccine, so I see validity in it. But yes, I also "in general" do not trust the government.

SpursforSix
05-12-2020, 12:02 PM
You are truly nuts. I deal with a lot of cervical cancer and head and neck cancer, even in 30 yos, that would be prevented with a HPV vaccination. Any parent who doesn’t get their cild vaccinated is a CPA candidate imo.

Sorry...fuck that. It's completely preventable. And if someone is getting yearly checkups, the treatment of HPV is pretty simple.

SpursforSix
05-12-2020, 12:04 PM
It's recommended by the CDC to prevent infection and cancer, what's your beef with it?

https://www.cdc.gov/hpv/parents/vaccine.html

My beef was the prior effort to mandate of the vaccine. This should 100% be up to the patient (or parent). Forcing kids to get the vaccine was ridiculous imo.

As opposed to measles or something where you can catch the disease much easier.

Winehole23
05-12-2020, 12:09 PM
HPV, in my opinion, is hard to question. My daughter received the vaccine, so I see validity in it. But yes, I also "in general" do not trust the government.appreciate the clarification

SpursforSix
05-12-2020, 12:10 PM
Do you distrust the CDC's advice about Gardasil specifically, or is it more like a vague, handwavy distrust of government in general?

The reality for me is that you can't properly test a vaccine in a few years and know for sure something isn't' fucked up. Especially given how many meds we already take. And how many different chemicals we inadvertently ingest.
Not to mention any genetic differences.

You'll never convince me that three years of testing is enough to guarantee that a vaccine is safe knowing that everyone has an incredibly different makeup in terms of what they're taking, where they live, what they eat, etc.

Winehole23
05-12-2020, 12:12 PM
My beef was the prior effort to mandate of the vaccine. This should 100% be up to the patient (or parent). Forcing kids to get the vaccine was ridiculous imo.

As opposed to measles or something where you can catch the disease much easier.I thought Rick Perry's attempted mandate was heavy handed, it was definitely a donor opportunity, but I see the social good he was aiming at too.

Winehole23
05-12-2020, 12:12 PM
The reality for me is that you can't properly test a vaccine in a few years and know for sure something isn't' fucked up. Especially given how many meds we already take. And how many different chemicals we inadvertently ingest.
Not to mention any genetic differences.

You'll never convince me that three years of testing is enough to guarantee that a vaccine is safe knowing that everyone has an incredibly different makeup in terms of what they're taking, where they live, what they eat, etc.
Sounds reasonable to me.

SpursforSix
05-12-2020, 12:13 PM
And sorry...not to parrot Boutons but how many trusted drugs have had major detrimental side effects? What about all the DuPont shit with Teflon?
Monsanto?

There's plenty enough reasons to not trust the government when they say something is, "fine".

BSfromTX
05-12-2020, 12:16 PM
The reality for me is that you can't properly test a vaccine in a few years and know for sure something isn't' fucked up. Especially given how many meds we already take. And how many different chemicals we inadvertently ingest.
Not to mention any genetic differences.

You'll never convince me that three years of testing is enough to guarantee that a vaccine is safe knowing that everyone has an incredibly different makeup in terms of what they're taking, where they live, what they eat, etc.

I do agree with this. There are so many details you have to trust in. Even if you feel that there is only the best of intentions, ill effects could take years to show up.

spurraider21
05-12-2020, 12:20 PM
crossing meds that have adverse reactions with one another is one thing. a vaccine just develops antibodies for you.

if there are known, tangible benefits to a vaccine, and virtually no research which can confirm the supposed adverse effects, seems like a pretty easy decision tbh

SpursforSix
05-12-2020, 12:29 PM
crossing meds that have adverse reactions with one another is one thing. a vaccine just develops antibodies for you.

if there are known, tangible benefits to a vaccine, and virtually no research which can confirm the supposed adverse effects, seems like a pretty easy decision tbh

Fair enough. But how do you even know what the long term adverse reactions are? Without having a long term trial? Fine if its pandemic related. But to tell me that I need to give my 12 year old daughter an HPV vaccine is ridiculous.
Especially when a pap test can diagnose it and the prescribed treatment is effective and safe.

Again, I don't trust the FDA or most government bodies at face value. IIRC, a large % of the FDA came from corporate pharma.

Not to sound like Boutons, but I'm skeptical of corporate bigwigs doing the right thing.

picnroll
05-12-2020, 12:30 PM
Sorry...fuck that. It's completely preventable. And if someone is getting yearly checkups, the treatment of HPV is pretty simple.

Sorry ... but you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Current guidelines and insurance coverage don’t cover Paps until the women and then once every three years. Once you get it it’s yours for life and when it’s caught at high grade you get pleasant biopsies maybe if you’re extra lucky a cone and a sweet bill. Bonus you can get carcinoma of the oropharynx, particularly men. That’s even more fun. But dream your little dreams.

SpursforSix
05-12-2020, 12:38 PM
Sorry ... but you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Current guidelines and insurance coverage don’t cover Paps until the women and then once every three years. Once you get it it’s yours for life and when it’s caught at high grade you get pleasant biopsies maybe if you’re extra lucky a cone and a sweet bill. Bonus you can get carcinoma of the oropharynx, particularly men. That’s even more fun. But dream your little dreams.

So now you're saying that I need to vaccinate my daughter because other people's pap tests aren't' covered by insurance?
I have no problem with other people choosing to get the vaccine but mandating it is an overreach. Also, it looks like you need to do some more research into the risks associated with HPV. If treated, it's rarely an issue. Hardly fatal.
Not to mention it's totally preventable by lifestyle choices.

Would you also support some vaccination that made people not eat crappy food?

Shit...for that matter...let's ban restaurants from serving any trans fats. Or sugar.

I don't know where you think you can draw the line.

spurraider21
05-12-2020, 12:43 PM
Fair enough. But how do you even know what the long term adverse reactions are? Without having a long term trial? Fine if its pandemic related. But to tell me that I need to give my 12 year old daughter an HPV vaccine is ridiculous.
Especially when a pap test can diagnose it and the prescribed treatment is effective and safe.

Again, I don't trust the FDA or most government bodies at face value. IIRC, a large % of the FDA came from corporate pharma.

Not to sound like Boutons, but I'm skeptical of corporate bigwigs doing the right thing.
its not the FDA that conducts the medical/scientific research, or the peer review, though.

i agree that mandatory vaccinations when it comes to non-contagious/transmittable diseases is dicey. i still dont see why you'd avoid it unless there was actually good reason to believe its harmful. the benefits are tangible

picnroll
05-12-2020, 01:00 PM
So now you're saying that I need to vaccinate my daughter because other people's pap tests aren't' covered by insurance?
I have no problem with other people choosing to get the vaccine but mandating it is an overreach. Also, it looks like you need to do some more research into the risks associated with HPV. If treated, it's rarely an issue. Hardly fatal.
Not to mention it's totally preventable by lifestyle choices.

Would you also support some vaccination that made people not eat crappy food?

Shit...for that matter...let's ban restaurants from serving any trans fats. Or sugar.

I don't know where you think you can draw the line.
Insurance, if you have it, covers testing once every three years. Vaccine prevents it but once your daughter gets it it’s hers for life. You can treat it with biopsies, LEEP biopsies, electrocautery, etc but it ain’t going away just like herpes and now she’s in for a lifetime of surveillance and risk of recurrence. Maybe she has enough recurrences to end up getting the shit biopsies out of her until she has cervical incompetence and has a bitch of a time keeping her baby from not falling out. All because you were to fucking stupid to get her vaccinated. You know the old saying, you sleep with someone and you’ve slept with everyone they ever slept with. And maybe your son eats some infected pussy and a few years later ends up with throat cancer. Ain’t no screening for that. You can get your son vaccinated though. Trust me bubba I don’t need to do any research. Maybe you ought to stop sharing opinions you don’t know fuck about.

SpursforSix
05-12-2020, 01:02 PM
its not the FDA that conducts the medical/scientific research, or the peer review, though.

i agree that mandatory vaccinations when it comes to non-contagious/transmittable diseases is dicey. i still dont see why you'd avoid it unless there was actually good reason to believe its harmful. the benefits are tangible

Yeah...I'm not sure that we're on totally different pages. Although it is ultimately the FDA that approves the treatments.
I guess the Rick Perry/HPV issue was the one that I thought was above and beyond. And I realize that there are tons of 12 year olds that have sex. But mine wasn't one of them. So to mandate that she needed to get a vaccine for something that caused by an action that wasn't even on her radar was insane to me. Not to mention that with proper diagnosis and treatment, getting HPV was likely not a long term issue. I'm just guessing that it's probably lower than .5%. When vaccinations are required for maladies with very low fatality rates and very low long term effects (as to the population), I am very skeptical.

As to " i still dont see why you'd avoid it unless there was actually good reason to believe its harmful", my concern is that with the relatively short time of trials, we don't have enough info to know if it's harmful. And on top of that, we sure don't know what these drugs do to our bodies over the course of a lifetime or what the small genetic changes they might bring on that affect our children (or their children, etc).

Imo, each person needs to make their own risk assessments based on their lifestyle. At least as to vaccinations for things that aren't easily transmittable.

I'd even be OK if anti-vaxers didn't get vaccinations as long as they were willing to have their privileges reduced.

SpursforSix
05-12-2020, 01:04 PM
Insurance, if you have it, covers testing once every three years. Vaccine prevents it but once your daughter gets it it’s hers for life. You can treat it with biopsies, LEEP biopsies, electrocautery, etc but it ain’t going away just like herpes and now she’s in for a lifetime of surveillance and risk of recurrence. Maybe she has enough recurrences to end up getting the shit biopsies out of her until she has cervical incompetence and has a bitch of a time keeping her baby from not falling out. All because you were to fucking stupid to get her vaccinated. You know the old saying, you sleep with someone and you’ve slept with everyone they ever slept with. And maybe your son eats some infected pussy and a few years later ends up with throat cancer. Trust me bubba I don’t need to do any research. Maybe you ought to stop sharing opinions you don’t know fuck about.

You're talking about a very tiny % of people. Do you not get that?

Again...why not take your thoughts a step further and mandate businesses to not serve unhealthy foods?
Or go ahead and ban alcohol and tobacco. These are all lifestyle choices. Like sex.

Your BigBrotherism is noted.

picnroll
05-12-2020, 01:07 PM
May not have sex at 12 but she will unless she becomes a nun and first guy she does it with might have HPV and oops too late.

picnroll
05-12-2020, 01:09 PM
You're talking about a very tiny % of people. Do you not get that?

Again...why not take your thoughts a step further and mandate businesses to not serve unhealthy foods?
Or go ahead and ban alcohol and tobacco. These are all lifestyle choices. Like sex.

Your BigBrotherism is noted.
Your stupidity is noted. Only down side outside your own family is your dumbass son who might be infecting girls who’s dumbass parents didn’t get her vaccinated. Guess it’s just one big Darwin circle of life.

SpursforSix
05-12-2020, 01:19 PM
Your stupidity is noted. Only down side outside your own family is your dumbass son who might be infecting girls who’s dumbass parents didn’t get her vaccinated. Guess it’s just one big Darwin circle of life.

So what you're saying is that since some people have no control over what they do, we need to mandate vaccines for everyone? And you're totally ignoring my analogies about other lifestyle choices.
Not to mention the pretty insignificant effect HPV has on the total population. And the 0% effect it has on people who take the preventive measures.

picnroll
05-12-2020, 01:20 PM
Trash isn’t going to be very happy with Dr Fauci’s testimony before the senate. Basically said Trash is full of shit but no great surprise there.

Nathan89
05-12-2020, 01:23 PM
https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1259848488780804096?s=20

SpursforSix
05-12-2020, 01:30 PM
https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1259848488780804096?s=20

Some (not me) would say, "win win".

Winehole23
05-12-2020, 01:32 PM
https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1259848488780804096?s=20It's too bad we don't have a functional government to do something about that, huh?

Winehole23
05-12-2020, 01:33 PM
Managing the pandemic through mass testing and robust contact tracing would be a nice start. Not holding my breath.

picnroll
05-12-2020, 01:38 PM
So what you're saying is that since some people have no control over what they do, we need to mandate vaccines for everyone? And you're totally ignoring my analogies about other lifestyle choices.
Not to mention the pretty insignificant effect HPV has on the total population. And the 0% effect it has on people who take the preventive measures.

Like I said HPV carries limited risk outside your family so you can do what you want as far as I care. Measles, mumps, chicken pox, etc where your dumb choice puts others outside your family at risk, not good with that. Kind of like driving, why shouldn’t you be allowed to drive shit faced? Big bad brother imposing his will right?

lefty
05-12-2020, 01:39 PM
:lol holy shit inmate in a U.S prison trying to contaminate each other hoping they would get them out of there

SpursforSix
05-12-2020, 01:42 PM
Like I said HPV carries limited risk outside your family so you can do what you want as far as I care. Measles, mumps, chicken pox, etc where your dumb choice puts others outside your family at risk, not good with that. Kind of like driving, why shouldn’t you be allowed to drive shit faced? Big bad brother imposing his will right?

Go read my posts dipshit. I never said I didn't believe in the other vaccines you just named.

picnroll
05-12-2020, 01:44 PM
Go read my posts dipshit. I never said I didn't believe in the other vaccines you just named.

I see. You’re selectively stupid.

SpursforSix
05-12-2020, 01:46 PM
I see. You’re selectively stupid.

So being against mandated HPV vaccine but supporting measles vaccine is selectively stupid?

picnroll
05-12-2020, 02:02 PM
So being against mandated HPV vaccine but supporting measles vaccine is selectively stupid?

Being against vaccinating your kids is stupid. I’ve dealt with a LARGE number of HPV related cancers over the years, all kinds of stories, like the woman who didn’t get tested for a number of years because she forgot or didn’t have insurance or the one that had an unusual, aggressive form that took off in a short period of time. People don’t get their kids vaccinated for two stupid reasons, the ones that say “gee I don’t want my kids to have sexual” like getting a shot is going to want to run out and get laid and the incomprehensible stupid anti-vacciner which think the vaccine is going to make their kid grow a second head.

I’m done with the topic.

SpursforSix
05-12-2020, 02:07 PM
Being against vaccinating your kids is stupid. I’ve dealt with a LARGE number of HPV related cancers over the years, all kinds of stories, like the woman who didn’t get tested for a number of years because she forgot or didn’t have insurance or the one that had an unusual, aggressive form that took off in a short period of time. People don’t get their kids vaccinated for two stupid reasons, the ones that say “gee I don’t want my kids to have sexual” like getting a shot is going to want to run out and get laid and the incomprehensible stupid anti-vacciner which think the vaccine is going to make their kid grow a second head.

I’m done with the topic.

Neither of those being my reason.

But I'm happy not discussing it with you anymore. Your mom's sex grunts are more intelligible.

Nathan89
05-12-2020, 02:23 PM
:lol holy shit inmate in a U.S prison trying to contaminate each other hoping they would get them out of there

Democrats want them to vote.:lmao

But I guess it's worth a try.

RandomGuy
05-12-2020, 02:34 PM
Democrats want them to vote.:lmao

But I guess it's worth a try.

Derp dee derp Democrats want people to vote.

What a horrible idea.

Republicans only win by actively suppressing votes and cheating.

They fucking admit it when they think no one is listening.

Not really a recipe for democracy. They have pretty much embraced fascism.

DMC
05-12-2020, 02:36 PM
Derp dee derp Democrats want people to vote.

What a horrible idea.

Republicans only win by actively suppressing votes and cheating.

They fucking admit it when they think no one is listening.

Not really a recipe for democracy. They have pretty much embraced fascism.

Democrats want illegal immigrants to vote

derp dee derp Democrats want people to vote.
What a horrible idea


See how fucking stupid you sound?

DMC
05-12-2020, 02:38 PM
Being against vaccinating your kids is stupid. I’ve dealt with a LARGE number of HPV related cancers over the years, all kinds of stories, like the woman who didn’t get tested for a number of years because she forgot or didn’t have insurance or the one that had an unusual, aggressive form that took off in a short period of time. People don’t get their kids vaccinated for two stupid reasons, the ones that say “gee I don’t want my kids to have sexual” like getting a shot is going to want to run out and get laid and the incomprehensible stupid anti-vacciner which think the vaccine is going to make their kid grow a second head.

I’m done with the topic.

You call yourself a doctor you son of-a bitch?

Chris
05-12-2020, 02:42 PM
Democrats want them to vote.:lmao

But I guess it's worth a try.

https://twitter.com/GOPoversight/status/1260290415841943556?s=19

RandomGuy
05-12-2020, 02:57 PM
Democrats want illegal immigrants to vote

derp dee derp Democrats want people to vote.
What a horrible idea

See how fucking stupid you sound?

Democrats don't want illegal immigrants to vote.


Derp dee derp strawman strawman strawman.

You're a poopy head! Honk ! Honk!

Would you like some good sound clips about Republicans talking about surppressing votes to win elections?

A memo or two about how they have to gerrymander to keep power rather than win fair elections?

It's there.

Democrats have done it too, but we look like fucking starry-eyed amateurs compared to the fascist party.

Nathan89
05-12-2020, 03:09 PM
Derp dee derp Democrats want people to vote.

What a horrible idea.

Republicans only win by actively suppressing votes and cheating.

They fucking admit it when they think no one is listening.

Not really a recipe for democracy. They have pretty much embraced fascism.

They want low iq criminals to vote because they'll vote for Dems. Let's not pretend it's a selfless act to get these people to vote. If we were in a small tribe and someone recommended getting the input of the tribe idiot that attacks people you'd realize this is actually moronic. The only motivation to do that is when you realize the tribe idiots that attack people support your platform.

hater
05-12-2020, 03:23 PM
They want low iq criminals to vote because they'll vote for Dems. Let's not pretend it's a selfless act to get these people to vote. If we were in a small tribe and someone recommended getting the input of the tribe idiot that attacks people you'd realize this is actually moronic. The only motivation to do that is when you realize the tribe idiots that attack people support your platform.

toothless stinky redneck hicks do the same

wake up

Nathan89
05-12-2020, 03:37 PM
toothless stinky redneck hicks do the same

wake up

If they are in prison they don't.

Nathan89
05-12-2020, 03:39 PM
https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1260275851804864512?s=20

RandomGuy
05-12-2020, 03:43 PM
They want low iq criminals to vote because they'll vote for Dems.

Prove that statement to any reasonable degree.

I'll wait.

In fact while you are at it, why don't you try proving that it is a commonly held Democratic position to let prisoners/felons in jail vote.

Bullshit has been called. Walk the walk, boy.

BSfromTX
05-12-2020, 03:58 PM
https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1260275851804864512?s=20

God help anyone that has to stay in LA for 3 months, even more so at home. People will go insane

vy65
05-12-2020, 04:15 PM
Speaking to TIME’s senior White House correspondent Brian Bennett as part of the TIME100 Talks series on Tuesday, Kushner said “there’s risk in anything, but the President carries the burden of the 30 million Americans who have lost their jobs due to this historic effort to save lives.”

Kushner going in raw on his daddy in law. Damn.

boutons_deux
05-12-2020, 04:22 PM
God help anyone that has to stay in LA for 3 months, even more so at home. People will go insane

CA reports a plateau of infections and deaths, so I guess they are trying descend from that plateau, get R0 below 1

btw, Gov Newsom's handling of the pandemic is very popular.

boutons_deux
05-12-2020, 04:26 PM
"President carries the burden of the 30 million Americans who have lost their jobs”

Trash carries no burden, doesn't give a tiny shit about 30M+ job losses or 80K+ deaths, except how they impact his re-election.

The only numbers that really piss off Trash are the numbers showing Biden winning, esp in swing states, with independents.

Blake
05-12-2020, 05:12 PM
Speaking to TIME’s senior White House correspondent Brian Bennett as part of the TIME100 Talks series on Tuesday, Kushner said “there’s risk in anything, but the President carries the burden of the 30 million Americans who have lost their jobs due to this historic effort to save lives.”

Kushner going in raw on his daddy in law. Damn.

Lol so predictable that they're trying to take a W for anything after shoving all the responsibility down to the governors.

Blake
05-12-2020, 05:15 PM
To everyone asking about why people are walking around in Texas without masks it's because the state has specifically stated that cities trying to enforce mask rules are unlawful.

Texas is so fucking stupid.

https://news4sanantonio.com/news/local/ken-paxton-sends-letter-warning-bexar-county-san-antonio-of-unlawful-covid-19-orders

Winehole23
05-12-2020, 07:19 PM
Democrats want illegal immigrants to vote

derp dee derp Democrats want people to vote.
What a horrible idea


See how fucking stupid you sound?Whining about other posters is approximately lemonade strength -- zero proof -- with a similar texture. Dilute and somewhat tart.

DarrinS
05-12-2020, 07:31 PM
How is Georgia doing? Remember -- they opened too soon?

Blake
05-12-2020, 07:32 PM
How is Georgia doing? Remember -- they opened too soon?

You're only gonna believe someone if they post what you want to hear, so what's the difference

boutons_deux
05-12-2020, 07:33 PM
The Risks - Know Them - Avoid Them
https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20200511&instance_id=18384&nl=the-morning

baseline bum
05-12-2020, 07:38 PM
To everyone asking about why people are walking around in Texas without masks it's because the state has specifically stated that cities trying to enforce mask rules are unlawful.

Texas is so fucking stupid.

https://news4sanantonio.com/news/local/ken-paxton-sends-letter-warning-bexar-county-san-antonio-of-unlawful-covid-19-orders

One size fits all good now? What happened to all this local control talk I kept hearing from the right?

boutons_deux
05-12-2020, 07:40 PM
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=c5ffe9fe07&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r-2357103096434366372&th=1720b7aee37954ee&view=fimg&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ-pLwbFYttjWzKiHu_1jjHibpu3YcdZM6bz0oVox2926T5kFDX_m oD0sMVdp58xGF3VZyZedQbxhf1Q0C0fcEURb6A1WHUimKAZ1yG 1gKKalhWKn1YIQugRTo0&disp=emb&realattid=ii_ka4mceae0

baseline bum
05-12-2020, 07:41 PM
How is Georgia doing? Remember -- they opened too soon?

Won't really know for a while. Come on you're an engineer right, you know how long exponential functions can take to ramp up, plus there is a time delay for the incubation period of this virus. Also the most reliable statistic is deaths and those usually take another 1-3 weeks after the incubation period delay.

boutons_deux
05-12-2020, 07:44 PM
South Korea’s new coronavirus cases show the perils of reopening

Just one sick person led to a sudden increase of new infections in South Korea.

The weekend before last,

a 29-year-old South Korean man (https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20200510001254320) visited five nightclubs in Seoul, where he partied with around 7,200 other people (https://www.france24.com/en/20200510-seoul-mayor-orders-bars-clubs-shut-after-new-covid-19-cases-in-south-korea).

Five days later — the same day South Korea relaxed social distancing measures — he tested positive for Covid-19 (https://www.wsj.com/articles/south-koreas-early-coronavirus-wins-dim-after-rash-of-new-cases-11589107406), becoming the country’s first local infection in four days (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/tracing-south-koreas-latest-virus-outbreak-shoves-lgbtq-community-into-unwelcome-spotlight/2020/05/11/0da09036-9343-11ea-87a3-22d324235636_story.html).

According to South Korean health officials,

nearly 80 new Covid-19 cases (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/tracing-south-koreas-latest-virus-outbreak-shoves-lgbtq-community-into-unwelcome-spotlight/2020/05/11/0da09036-9343-11ea-87a3-22d324235636_story.html) have since been linked to the man’s outing in the Itaewon neighborhood.

And on Monday, officials announced 35 new confirmed infections (https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=a30402000000&bid=0030) — the highest total in about a month —

of which 29 (https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=a30402000000&bid=0030) may have originated from those five nightclubs.

https://www.vox.com/2020/5/11/21254451/south-korea-nightclub-outbreak-coronavirus-infections-reopening-dangers (https://www.vox.com/2020/5/11/21254451/south-korea-nightclub-outbreak-coronavirus-infections-reopening-dangers)

slick'81
05-12-2020, 07:44 PM
How is Georgia doing? Remember -- they opened too soon?


How are they doing D?

DarrinS
05-12-2020, 08:26 PM
Won't really know for a while. Come on you're an engineer right, you know how long exponential functions can take to ramp up, plus there is a time delay for the incubation period of this virus. Also the most reliable statistic is deaths and those usually take another 1-3 weeks after the incubation period delay.

They opened up a couple of weeks ago.

DarrinS
05-12-2020, 08:27 PM
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/georgia

ducks
05-12-2020, 08:29 PM
22 Times more likely to become millionaire than to die of covid

clambake
05-12-2020, 08:29 PM
They opened up a couple of weeks ago.

Where is anti-christ?

You quit on it?

Winehole23
05-12-2020, 08:29 PM
Georgia is a blushing peach according to DarrinS

DarrinS
05-12-2020, 08:34 PM
Where is anti-christ?

You quit on it?


It was a parody in response to a thread by AngelLuv. Remember her?

Winehole23
05-12-2020, 08:35 PM
Where is anti-christ?

You quit on it?I hear Trump has decided to run against Obama this time, it might become relevant again.

slick'81
05-12-2020, 08:36 PM
They opened up a couple of weeks ago.


Everyone knows it takes 2 weeks to show symptoms then another 2-3 weeks to die. So I guess we wont know shit for what? 6 weeks?

DarrinS
05-12-2020, 08:36 PM
Georgia is a blushing peach according to DarrinS


No. But it's not clear whether shutdowns are any more effective than masks + social distancing. Climate and population density are probably important factors, too.

DarrinS
05-12-2020, 08:39 PM
Everyone knows it takes 2 weeks to show symptoms then another 2-3 weeks to die. So I guess we wont know shit for what? 6 weeks?

Their new cases are flat, even as their testing has ramped up considerably.

Winehole23
05-12-2020, 08:41 PM
Everyone knows it takes 2 weeks to show symptoms then another 2-3 weeks to die. So I guess we wont know shit for what? 6 weeks?the football can't be unspiked

baseline bum
05-12-2020, 08:45 PM
They opened up a couple of weeks ago.

Come on I heard this argument from people like ducks in March oh it's only 50 dead as if exponential functions can't be very slow early on. You know better.

DarrinS
05-12-2020, 08:47 PM
Come on I heard this argument from people like ducks in March oh it's only 50 dead as if exponential functions can't be very slow early on. You know better.

It's never been exponential here in SA.

ChumpDumper
05-12-2020, 09:12 PM
It's never been exponential here in SA.So the restrictions were never necessary?

Quit being so passive aggressive and say what you mean.

ducks
05-12-2020, 09:24 PM
To everyone asking about why people are walking around in Texas without masks it's because the state has specifically stated that cities trying to enforce mask rules are unlawful.

Texas is so fucking stupid.

https://news4sanantonio.com/news/local/ken-paxton-sends-letter-warning-bexar-county-san-antonio-of-unlawful-covid-19-orders

Unless it is a n95 the mask do not work

Chris
05-12-2020, 09:25 PM
Democrats want illegal immigrants to vote

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/12/exclusive-eric-eggers-fair-to-assume-illegal-aliens-will-get-mail-in-ballots-in-california/amp/

ChumpDumper
05-12-2020, 09:27 PM
Unless it is a n95 the mask do not workSure they do. Half the reason for wearing masks is to keep people with the virus from spreading it through droplets from their mouths and noses.

Don't spread fake news.

ChumpDumper
05-12-2020, 09:28 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/12/exclusive-eric-eggers-fair-to-assume-illegal-aliens-will-get-mail-in-ballots-in-california/amp/:lol Breitbart

ElNono
05-12-2020, 09:31 PM
How is Georgia doing? Remember -- they opened too soon?

Haven't seen a single post like this one age well in this pandemic... hoping this is the exception to the rule