Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[koriwhat]

People are still about this bs KungFlu? :lmao

[ElNono]

:lmao pussies

https://twitter.com/grandoldmemes/status/1543346830301347841

:lmao you paid for your COVID vaccination?

[hater]

:lmao you paid for your COVID vaccination?

:lmao doesnt know who pays for the vaccines :lmao

[baseline bum]

https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1543507183605895170

Steers clear of the science, believes an economist. Checks out.

[Thread]

Boiled down:::
1,045,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.4.2022

[ElNono]

:lmao doesnt know who pays for the vaccines :lmao

:lmao doesn't understand how taxes work. :lmao

[Winehole23]

Past performance does not predict the future, but COVID spikes in the UK generally have preceded subsequent US spikes.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWv4NZ1XkAEEGrM?format=jpg&name=large

[Thread]

Past performance does not predict the future, but COVID spikes in the UK generally have preceded subsequent US spikes.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWv4NZ1XkAEEGrM?format=jpg&name=large

Yep, Florida & California are all ate up...+ East to West the bottom half of the country is looking bad as well.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW6USCBWAAQ4LIB?format=png&name=small

https://projects.thecity.nyc/2020_03_covid-19-tracker/

[DMC]

No one cares. Might as well be reporting on herpes.

[Winehole23]

Summer flu season

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/covid-cdc-hospitalization-states.png

https://healthdata.gov/Health/COVID-19-Community-Profile-Report/gqxm-d9w9

[Winehole23]

Living with COVID, tbh

1509809946233393155

1509810147048230913

[Will Hunting]

So here's my COVID saga over the last several days:

- Tested positive on Monday (likely due to a lot of traveling/partying the prior week) after getting a cough.
- Went to an urgent care center Monday afternoon and basically bullied the physician's assistant into writing me a prescription for Paxlovid despite my age.
- At this point my symptoms were still light. No body aches or fever or loss of smell, just a light cough.
- By Monday evening (when I took my first Paxlovid dose) I was starting to feel the symptoms. Body aches, congestion, etc.
- When I woke up on Tuesday I could barely get out of bed. Horrible body aches, chills, fever, and most worrisome my oxygen levels had dropped from 99 to 93.
- By Tuesday afternoon I still felt like shit but my fever broke and the body aches were subsiding.
- Wednesday morning I woke up with no symptoms beyond a soar throat, and my oxygen levels were back up to 99.
- This morning I woke up with no symptoms at all.

My takeaway is that (i) if the last vaccine/booster you got was >6 months ago, you're still somewhat vulnerable to COVID symptoms and (ii) it'll be a big lift once Paxlovid gets full FDA approval so anyone who gets COVID can be treated by it.

[DarrinS]

Currently have omicron 4/5. Not impressed. Minor allergy-like symptoms.

[Winehole23]

It's going around.

Getting COVID raises the risk of all cause mortality, that risk is progressive with each new Infection and even mild infections can have chronic sequelae.

Wear a mask indoors and demand Paxlovid like Will if you get it.

Hopefully we'll have better treatments and vaccines soon.

1544768060707540992

[Luka Doncic]

Thankfully(?) we don’t have Trumptards drinking bleached horse jizz or whatever anymore.

[Winehole23]

Thankfully(?) we don’t have Trumptards drinking bleached horse jizz or whatever anymore.self-harm as a badge of political fealty was quite the thing

[DMC]

self-harm as a badge of political fealty was quite the thing

But let's not talk about 4-boost

[DMC]

Living with COVID, tbh

1509809946233393155

1509810147048230913

Dads? You mean non-birthing parental units?

[Winehole23]

Currently have omicron 4/5. Not impressed. Minor allergy-like symptoms.Glad you came through OK.

COVID was the 3rd leading cause of death in the US last year behind heart disease and cancer.

[Winehole23]

But let's not talk about 4-boostgo for it

[Will Hunting]

Living with COVID, tbh

1509809946233393155

1509810147048230913
Meh, I don't take Eric Ding Dong seriously. This isn't even close to his field of medicine and all he does is sound the alarm bells for Twitter likes. He's not an infectious disease expert and actual experts have said he's not credible.

[Winehole23]

Meh, I don't take Eric Ding Dong seriously. This isn't even close to his field of medicine and all he does is sound the alarm bells for Twitter likes. He's not an infectious disease expert and actual experts have said he's not credible.I quite agree, that's why I don't repost him here, but the highlighted story provides a good model of risk reduction without shutting shit down

[Winehole23]

Engineering solutions to improve the quality of indoor air are underrated, imho

[Will Hunting]

Currently have omicron 4/5. Not impressed. Minor allergy-like symptoms.
You got lucky. I know multiple people my age (early 30s, in good health, not fat) who are vaccinated and boosted but got .4/.5 and it knocked them out for 3 days.

[baseline bum]

You got lucky. I know multiple people my age (early 30s, in good health, not fat) who are vaccinated and boosted but got .4/.5 and it knocked them out for 3 days.

Or he's lying like when he said he voted for Obama.

[Winehole23]

Or he's lying like when he said he voted for Obama.buyer's remorse ~ one week after the election. got totally disillusioned before Obama had done anything.

[DMC]

The left really worries about who others voted for.

[baseline bum]

The left really worries about who others voted for.

The right loves to lie about who they vote for.

[ChumpDumper]

DMC really worries about what people think about him so he advertises who he voted for unsolicited.

[Winehole23]

DMC really worries about what people think about him so he advertises who he voted for unsolicited.Obama and Biden, if he can be believed to tell a straight tale.

[DMC]

Obama and Biden, if he can be believed to tell a straight tale.

Rich coming from a Wall of Shamer

[Thread]

Boiled down:::
1,046,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.7.2022

[DarrinS]

You got lucky. I know multiple people my age (early 30s, in good health, not fat) who are vaccinated and boosted but got .4/.5 and it knocked them out for 3 days.

Everyone reacts differently, I suppose.


Here's 71 year old Paul Offit describing his experience at 48:00


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLo2Wwa3NNA

[ElNono]

So here's my COVID saga over the last several days:

- Tested positive on Monday (likely due to a lot of traveling/partying the prior week) after getting a cough.
- Went to an urgent care center Monday afternoon and basically bullied the physician's assistant into writing me a prescription for Paxlovid despite my age.
- At this point my symptoms were still light. No body aches or fever or loss of smell, just a light cough.
- By Monday evening (when I took my first Paxlovid dose) I was starting to feel the symptoms. Body aches, congestion, etc.
- When I woke up on Tuesday I could barely get out of bed. Horrible body aches, chills, fever, and most worrisome my oxygen levels had dropped from 99 to 93.
- By Tuesday afternoon I still felt like shit but my fever broke and the body aches were subsiding.
- Wednesday morning I woke up with no symptoms beyond a soar throat, and my oxygen levels were back up to 99.
- This morning I woke up with no symptoms at all.

My takeaway is that (i) if the last vaccine/booster you got was >6 months ago, you're still somewhat vulnerable to COVID symptoms and (ii) it'll be a big lift once Paxlovid gets full FDA approval so anyone who gets COVID can be treated by it.

Good to hear you're doing ok, brah... did you also ask for some vicodin for the 'pain'? :lol

[Will Hunting]

Everyone reacts differently, I suppose.


Here's 71 year old Paul Offit describing his experience at 48:00


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLo2Wwa3NNA
When were you last boosted?

I'm guessing that if it hadn't been so long since I got boosted, I probably wouldn't have had any symptoms at all.

[DarrinS]

When were you last boosted?

I'm guessing that if it hadn't been so long since I got boosted, I probably wouldn't have had any symptoms at all.

Offit said it was over a year since he had a booster and opted not to take a fourth. He even opted not to take paxlovid. Was a mild two day illness for him. Personally, I will never take another covid shot.

[koriwhat]

Offit said it was over a year since he had a booster and opted not to take a fourth. He even opted not to take paxlovid. Was a mild two day illness for him. Personally, I will never take another covid shot.

Glad I took none!

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXBRdz8UUAABm7T?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Thread]

Boiled down:::
1,046,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.7.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[Winehole23]

Omicron isn't god's gift to acquired immunity, but kind of the opposite, it would seem.


These data show that the BA.2.12.1, BA.4, and BA.5 subvariants substantially escape neutralizing antibodies induced by both vaccination and infection. Moreover, neutralizing antibody titers against the BA.4 or BA.5 subvariant and (to a lesser extent) against the BA.2.12.1 subvariant were lower than titers against the BA.1 and BA.2 subvariants, which suggests that the SARS-CoV-2 omicron variant has continued to evolve with increasing neutralization escape.https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2206576

[DarrinS]

You will get this repeatedly. Get over it.

[Winehole23]

You will get this repeatedly. Get over it.that's no reason to get it as soon as possible. for anyone who manages to remain uninfected until better vaccines and treatments arrive, that would be a plus for them. vaccines with sterilizing immunity and pancoronavirus vaccines might not be that far off.

[SnakeBoy]

The left really worries about who others voted for.

WH voted for Gary Johnson :lol

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ObedientIllfatedFlounder-size_restricted.gif

[SnakeBoy]

HOUSTON – With Harris County having a count of more than 1 million COVID cases, and Houston wastewater revealing seven times more of the virus than this time in 2020, local doctors are warning residents to take precautions when it comes to COVID-19.

Dr. James McDeavitt, the Executive VP and Dean of Clinical Affairs at Baylor College of Medicine, said while many may not realize this, by the numbers, this latest surge of COVID cases is indicative of how widespread the virus is in the Houston area.

“Most people will be surprised by what I’m going to say. We are in the midst of the worst surge of COVID-19 that we have seen since the beginning of the pandemic, in terms of the number of infected people out in the community,” McDeavitt said. “Now, having said that, most people are not going to believe me, but if you sit down and reflect, you know three, four or five people who have probably gotten COVID-19 recently.”

[Thread]

HOUSTON – With Harris County having a count of more than 1 million COVID cases, and Houston wastewater revealing seven times more of the virus than this time in 2020, local doctors are warning residents to take precautions when it comes to COVID-19.

Dr. James McDeavitt, the Executive VP and Dean of Clinical Affairs at Baylor College of Medicine, said while many may not realize this, by the numbers, this latest surge of COVID cases is indicative of how widespread the virus is in the Houston area.

“Most people will be surprised by what I’m going to say. We are in the midst of the worst surge of COVID-19 that we have seen since the beginning of the pandemic, in terms of the number of infected people out in the community,” McDeavitt said. “Now, having said that, most people are not going to believe me, but if you sit down and reflect, you know three, four or five people who have probably gotten COVID-19 recently.”

Johns Hopkins University count posted over 1200 deaths in the last 24 hour period.

[hater]

that's no reason to get it as soon as possible. for anyone who manages to remain uninfected until better vaccines and treatments arrive, that would be a plus for them. vaccines with sterilizing immunity and pancoronavirus vaccines might not be that far off.

I got it once in December. Thats it

Never wore a mask a single minute this year.


Dont b scared. Live your life. Its a short one :tu

[Thread]

I got it once in December. Thats it

Never wore a mask a single minute this year.


Dont b scared. Live your life. Its a short one :tu

My son got it, (lives out of state) did not tell mother and father until six months later. He said it was like nothing he'd ever had before...like it was killing his DNA. It became worse,,,got 1/2 way to the hospital ER...pulled over, did a U turn and returned to his apartment where he made his stand. "Daddy-O, if I'd a went in there they'd a stuffed a ventilator down my throat and I'd be dead."

[InRareForm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/vupxzh/epidemiologist_warns_of_serious_situation_by_fall/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[boutons_deux]

weaponized "freedom of expression" is just getting started

a few employees suing Disney because mask/vax mandate violates their religion.

[Winehole23]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/vupxzh/epidemiologist_warns_of_serious_situation_by_fall/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=shareflying blind is a foolish way to live with an airborne pathogen as contagious and destructive as COVID

https://i.gifer.com/Bs8T.gif

[SnakeBoy]

1544659179524313091

[hater]

My son got it, (lives out of state) did not tell mother and father until six months later. He said it was like nothing he'd ever had before...like it was killing his DNA. It became worse,,,got 1/2 way to the hospital ER...pulled over, did a U turn and returned to his apartment where he made his stand. "Daddy-O, if I'd a went in there they'd a stuffed a ventilator down my throat and I'd be dead."

:tu

Yups. Best decision if you have a bd Covid is to fight it at home. DO NOT GO TO A KILLING CENTER. I MEAN A HOSPITAL.

[hater]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/vupxzh/epidemiologist_warns_of_serious_situation_by_fall/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

:lmao

[HemisfairArena]

Schumer now has covid,,,another VACCINATED person that has caught it. The democrats duped their idiot followers like they always do,,,the vaccine works?,,,lmao. Just like they duped them for 3 years saying Trump colluded with Russia,,,,:lmao

[Winehole23]

Immune escape. A virus is a moving target.

Flu is taken seriously enough that we have an annual vaccine, why not COVID. The lack of a Warp Speed 2.0 is a horrendous oversight.

If only we took COVID as seriously as we take the flu..

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Trumptards still don't understand anything

[Thread]

Boiled down:::
1,047,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.11.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[InRareForm]

Playing wack a mole with variant specific vaccines is not a good strategy. By the time you make one a new one, a new one emerges with immune invasion.

I'm done with boosters unless a new variant emerges that is more dangerous.

[InRareForm]

https://time.com/6195495/covid-omicron-variant-mutant-contagious-ba2-75/

[steak n eggs]

Covid is turning into something similar to a Windows update. Do you have version 2.78.2 yet?

[Winehole23]

Playing wack a mole with variant specific vaccines is not a good strategy. By the time you make one a new one, a new one emerges with immune invasion.

I'm done with boosters unless a new variant emerges that is more dangerous.So long as boosters continue to keep people out of the hospital and the graveyard, seems like a no-brainer to keep getting them.

(*shrugs*)

More broadly protective vaccines and intranasal vaccines that confer mucosal immunity could be available next year. Lots of info here about what's in the pipeline:

https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/draft-landscape-of-covid-19-candidate-vaccines
https://www.bio.org/policy/human-health/vaccines-biodefense/coronavirus/pipeline-tracker
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41573-022-00074-6

[Winehole23]

Covid is turning into something similar to a Windows update. Do you have version 2.78.2 yet?We update flu vaccines annually. Coronaviruses are more challenging, but regularly updating the shots is hardly an exotic concept.

[CosmicCowboy]

We update flu vaccines annually. Coronaviruses are more challenging, but regularly updating the shots is hardly an exotic concept.

It's mutating so fast that the vaccines can't keep up.

[Winehole23]

It's mutating so fast that the vaccines can't keep up.maybe we should try harder to make better vaccines. or maybe you've given up already and joined the nothing can be done crew.

[SnakeBoy]

So long as boosters continue to keep people out of the hospital and the graveyard, seems like a no-brainer to keep getting them.

(*shrugs*)

More broadly protective vaccines and intranasal vaccines that confer mucosal immunity could be available next year. Lots of info here about what's in the pipeline:

https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/draft-landscape-of-covid-19-candidate-vaccines
https://www.bio.org/policy/human-health/vaccines-biodefense/coronavirus/pipeline-tracker
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41573-022-00074-6

The virus has become the intranasal booster. 80% of the population already infected, your time is coming grandpa.

[DMC]

maybe we should try harder to make better vaccines. or maybe you've given up already and joined the nothing can be done crew.
What vaccine are you currently developing? Oh none? I guess you've given up too.

[CosmicCowboy]

maybe we should try harder to make better vaccines. or maybe you've given up already and joined the nothing can be done crew.

What I think doesn't change reality, but you just keep going with "hopes and prayers" that the vaccines can keep up. They haven't even gotten the omacron vaccine out yet and its mutated like 5 times since then.

[Winehole23]

*yawns

[CosmicCowboy]

*yawns

thats a good way to catch it.

[ElNono]

What I think doesn't change reality, but you just keep going with "hopes and prayers" that the vaccines can keep up. They haven't even gotten the omacron vaccine out yet and its mutated like 5 times since then.

This doesn't help...

More Than 82 Million COVID Vaccine Doses Wasted in U.S.: Report

June 7, 2022 – The U.S. threw out 82.1 million COVID-19 vaccine doses between December 2020 and mid-May 2022, tossing about 11% of the doses distributed.

Pharmacies, states, territories, and federal agencies got rid of doses that expired on shelves before they could be used, that spoiled when the power went out or freezers broke, and that were tossed at the end of the day when no one used the remaining doses in an opened vial, according to NBC News.

The overall number of discarded doses falls in line with public health estimates for large vaccination campaigns using multidose vials, according to the World Health Organization’s vaccine wastage rates calculator. But public health experts have said the waste is still alarming when 53% of fully vaccinated Americans haven’t gotten a booster shot.

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20220607/millions-covid-vaccine-doses-wasted-us-report

[Winehole23]

What I think doesn't change reality, but you just keep going with "hopes and prayers" that the vaccines can keep up. They haven't even gotten the omacron vaccine out yet and its mutated like 5 times since then.the ones we rolled out a year and a half ago -- astonishingly good ones, right off the bat, BTW -- still protect people from hospitalization and death. there's no reason to think generation two vaccines won't be as good or better.

[InRareForm]

So long as boosters continue to keep people out of the hospital and the graveyard, seems like a no-brainer to keep getting them.

(*shrugs*)

More broadly protective vaccines and intranasal vaccines that confer mucosal immunity could be available next year. Lots of info here about what's in the pipeline:

https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/draft-landscape-of-covid-19-candidate-vaccines
https://www.bio.org/policy/human-health/vaccines-biodefense/coronavirus/pipeline-tracker
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41573-022-00074-6

fcaJsygMdfs 7 minute mark. Is it really though getting priority ?

[Winehole23]

fcaJsygMdfs 7 minute mark. Is it really though getting priority ?Getting priority? No.

Biden has completely abandoned any emphasis on public health and vaccines in favor of a back to normal political narrative that ignores a changed reality and amount to an ethic of mass infection and death. I agree with the doc in the vid that we should hasten intranasal and 2nd generation vaccines. Hopefully they'll be more durable.

[SnakeBoy]

https://i.imgur.com/e68ruvT.jpeg

[Winehole23]

COVID will very likely continue to mutate and cause problems until we create vaccines that inhibit transmission (which probably means nasal/mucosal membrane vaccines) and vaccines that confer better overall immunity across all COVID-19 variants.2 (https://www.slowboring.com/p/we-could-have-universal-covid-vaccines#footnote-2)

There are plenty of groups working on this, including Akiko Iwasaki’s lab at Yale, David Veesler’s at University of Washington, and Pamela Bjorkman’s at Caltech. Nature surveyed (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41573-022-00074-6) some more efforts a few months ago.

The basic strategy for pan-variant protection is pretty clear: most involve some kind of “nanoparticle” that embeds parts of different spike proteins that will cause the immune system to prefer the parts that remain unchanged across different coronavirus variants. (“Highly conserved epitopes.”) Current vaccines use the full spike protein, which means that the immune system indexes on fairly random parts of the spike, including parts that might change quickly.

We already have quite good evidence that such approaches can work based on initial mouse and non-human primate data, where robustly (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S009286742101062X) protective (https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abq0839) responses have been generated against a broad variety of sarbecoviruses. (The virus that causes COVID is part of this family.) Furthermore, the underlying nanoparticle platform used in one group’s work, David Veesler’s nanoparticle-based vaccine, has been validated in humans, and just finished a successful Phase 3 trial (https://newsroom.uw.edu/news/uw-medicine-covid-19-vaccine-wins-south-korea-approval) in South Korea. (The nanoparticle in this trial used a part of the spike protein from the original COVID strain, and isn’t itself a pan-variant vaccine.) But simply embedding slightly different proteins on its surface stands an excellent chance of conferring much broader protection.

We (Fast Grants) are in touch with a number of these groups. Despite excellent technology and promising early results in animal models, we estimate that the very earliest we will have access to these vaccines in humans is 2024. These groups need to run primate trials, then run human clinical trials, and then ramp manufacturing and distribution. Beyond having to jump through a lot of hoops, we’ve observed that they’re frequently tripped up by stupid things outside of their control, any one of which may hold their work back by months. (One group’s monkeys have been delayed by US Customs, which will push the start of their primate trial back ‘till September. Another is struggling to obtain necessary adjuvants. Multiple groups are unable to get access to current mRNA vaccines for research purposes because of legal barriers.) All groups we’ve interacted with are underfunded compared to what would be ideal.

Broadly speaking, the holdups involve some combination of logistical challenges and regulatory requirements, and the intersection between both. (You don’t in principle have to run a primate trial, but the FDA makes it harder to run a human trial if you don’t. You don’t in principle need to use “acute infection” as a trial endpoint; you could also use neutralizing antibody titers (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/access-consortium-alignment-with-icmra-consensus-on-immunobridging-for-authorising-new-covid-19-vaccines/access-consortium-alignment-with-icmra-consensus-on-immunobridging-for-authorising-new-covid-19-vaccines), which would be much faster and simpler.)
To speed things up:



We should lower the barrier for human clinical trials and use simpler endpoints. For many vaccine candidates, we could run human trials concurrent with primate trials (once basic safety data has been obtained). In humans, we don’t need to repeat Phase I trials for platforms that have already been validated and derisked. (In this vein, the FDA’s recent announcement (https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/fda-will-not-require-clinical-trial-data-authorize-redesigned-covid-boosters-2022-06-30/) about not requiring trials for updated platforms was encouraging.)
We should help these groups to scale manufacturing faster. Operation Warp Speed itself cost $10 billion; a second incarnation, with a tenth of that budget, could almost certainly accomplish a great deal.​


Overall, we the federal government should empower someone to intervene (as it did with Operation Warp Speed). Private actors can’t change FDA policy. In our view it is probably true that, with competent execution, we could roll out pan-variant COVID vaccines before the end of 2022. Actually making that happen would require significant and coordinated logistical, regulatory, and administrative action. However, it would by no means be impossible. Not having pan-variant vaccines in 2022 is best thought of as a choice.
https://www.slowboring.com/p/we-could-have-universal-covid-vaccines

[SnakeBoy]

https://www.slowboring.com/p/we-could-have-universal-covid-vaccines

https://www.toonpool.com/user/997/files/push_button_government_handout_393565.jpg

[Winehole23]

https://www.toonpool.com/user/997/files/push_button_government_handout_393565.jpgTo save lives and alleviate the burden of sickness and disability for individuals and businesses?

It's a no brainer, that's exactly what your ikon Trump did.

[Winehole23]

What were the CARES Act, the PPP and Operation Warp Speed?

[SnakeBoy]

To save lives and alleviate the burden of sickness and disability for individuals and businesses?

It's a no brainer, that's exactly what your ikon Trump did.

There's never going to be a sterilizing covid vaccine, it's not possible. You're going to have to get your sniffles, repeatedly.

[Winehole23]

There's never going to be a sterilizing covid vaccine, it's not possible. You're going to have to get your sniffles, repeatedly.So long as the jab keeps me out of the hospital and the graveyard, I'm cool with that. I'm in no rush to get it, though, and will continue to take reasonable precautions to avoid getting sick. If you wash your hands or sterilize food prep surfaces at home, I'm sure you can relate.

Is there some reason in your mind that we shouldn't take COVID at least as seriously as we do the flu, from a public health standpoint?

[Winehole23]

What were the CARES Act, the PPP and Operation Warp Speed?Btw, the dreaded circuit breaker lockdown of 2020 was instigated by states and cities under federal advisement. The Trump Administration advised the states to do it, passing along the pandemic response wisdom developed under GWB.

Lockdowns were pioneered by Republicans in the US.

[SnakeBoy]

Living with COVID, tbh

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1509810147048230913

A group of dad's discovered air purifiers move air...genius.

[Winehole23]

A group of dad's discovered air purifiers move air...genius.more schools should try it, tbh

[SnakeBoy]

more schools should try it, tbh

They'll need another couple hundred billion dollars first

[Winehole23]

They'll need another couple hundred billion dollars firstsounds great :tu

[Winehole23]

Where'd you get that number? PFA?

[Dirks_Finale]

So long as the jab keeps me out of the hospital and the graveyard, I'm cool with that. I'm in no rush to get it, though, and will continue to take reasonable precautions to avoid getting sick. If you wash your hands or sterilize food prep surfaces at home, I'm sure you can relate.

Is there some reason in your mind that we shouldn't take COVID at least as seriously as we do the flu, from a public health standpoint?

We got our Flu Shot every fall and forgot that it existed, tbh.

Same should be done with covid, imo.

[Winehole23]

We got our Flu Shot every fall and forgot that it existed, tbh.

Same should be done with covid, imo.good luck with that. reality is that which, when you wish it gone, remains.

[Winehole23]

Acting like flu is nbd is more or less brain dead. We have a multi-billion dollar public health apparatus to deal with it every single year.

[DMC]

Acting like flu is nbd is more or less brain dead. We have a multi-billion dollar public health apparatus to deal with it every single year.
how about physical fitness? :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

Acting like flu is nbd is more or less brain dead. We have a multi-billion dollar public health apparatus to deal with it every single year.

You take risk every time you get in your car and drive to destination __X__.

People dying from the flu are elderly and/or immunocompromised. You probably have a better chance of drowning in your own bathtub than dying from the flu.

Omicron's death rate seems to be comparable to the flu as well.

[Winehole23]

You take risk every time you get in your car and drive to destination __X__.

People dying from the flu are elderly and/or immunocompromised. You probably have a better chance of drowning in your own bathtub than dying from the flu.

Omicron's death rate seems to be comparable to the flu as well.Sure, life isn't risk free, thanks for the news flash.

While Omicron's ifr might be similar to flu, the contagiousness isn't remotely comparable. Rampant infection has led to ~200,000 deaths from Omicron since December.

[Winehole23]

They'll need another couple hundred billion dollars firstChicago raised practically the whole damn city on jackscrews to install a sewer system -- because of repeated cholera and typhoid epidemics -- but go ahead, explain how engineers can't retrofit buildings for cleaner air in 2022.

(It actually wasn't quite that simple, the sewer system created problems of its own that tunnels were built to alleviate, but sluicing sewage into the Mississippi created problems downstream, as well as liability problems for Chicago, that weren't solved until about 50 years later, when water treatment plants were built. The point is, there was an engineering solution, and though the path was arduous and the expense was vast, it was worth it. The result was a healthier, thriving populace and one of the first great, modern US cities.)

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[Will Hunting]

So here's my COVID saga over the last several days:

- Tested positive on Monday (likely due to a lot of traveling/partying the prior week) after getting a cough.
- Went to an urgent care center Monday afternoon and basically bullied the physician's assistant into writing me a prescription for Paxlovid despite my age.
- At this point my symptoms were still light. No body aches or fever or loss of smell, just a light cough.
- By Monday evening (when I took my first Paxlovid dose) I was starting to feel the symptoms. Body aches, congestion, etc.
- When I woke up on Tuesday I could barely get out of bed. Horrible body aches, chills, fever, and most worrisome my oxygen levels had dropped from 99 to 93.
- By Tuesday afternoon I still felt like shit but my fever broke and the body aches were subsiding.
- Wednesday morning I woke up with no symptoms beyond a soar throat, and my oxygen levels were back up to 99.
- This morning I woke up with no symptoms at all.

My takeaway is that (i) if the last vaccine/booster you got was >6 months ago, you're still somewhat vulnerable to COVID symptoms and (ii) it'll be a big lift once Paxlovid gets full FDA approval so anyone who gets COVID can be treated by it.
Tested negative yesterday, just 1 week after I first felt symptoms and tested positive.

IMO antivirals that are widely circulated and easily available will be what gets us fully out of the pandemic.

[DMC]

Tested negative yesterday, just 1 week after I first felt symptoms and tested positive.

IMO antivirals that are widely circulated and easily available will be what gets us fully out of the pandemic.

But what about long term effects or the possibility of dying from a brain tumor? There's still that. You're not out of the woods on this.

[hater]

But what about long term effects or the possibility of dying from a brain tumor? There's still that. You're not out of the woods on this.

:lmao

[Will Hunting]

But what about long term effects or the possibility of dying from a brain tumor? There's still that. You're not out of the woods on this.
True. I stayed up all night sitting in the corner with nothing but a flashlight and a handgun worrying about long COVID.

[DMC]

True. I stayed up all night sitting in the corner with nothing but a flashlight and a handgun worrying about long COVID.

9mm?

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1,048,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.12.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[Will Hunting]

9mm?
45

[InRareForm]

Tested negative yesterday, just 1 week after I first felt symptoms and tested positive.

IMO antivirals that are widely circulated and easily available will be what gets us fully out of the pandemic.

Side effects . Not everyone can take antivirals.

[DMC]

45

Whew, that was a close call for your lungs.

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1,048,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.13.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[Winehole23]

July 7

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/covid-cdc-rapid-riser-counties-2.png

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/covid-cdc-hospitalization-states-2.png

https://healthdata.gov/Health/COVID-19-Community-Profile-Report/gqxm-d9w9

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1,049,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.13.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[Dirks_Finale]

Tested negative yesterday, just 1 week after I first felt symptoms and tested positive.

IMO antivirals that are widely circulated and easily available will be what gets us fully out of the pandemic.

Just out of curiosity have you ever had COVID prior to this instance?

[Will Hunting]

Just out of curiosity have you ever had COVID prior to this instance?
Can't say for sure but I'm convinced I had December 2019 when it was first popping up in the US.

[Dirks_Finale]

Can't say for sure but I'm convinced I had December 2019 when it was first popping up in the US.

Same.

Have not heard of that many re-infections until recently, though. So that's a little alarming.

[Will Hunting]

Same.

Have not heard of that many re-infections until recently, though. So that's a little alarming.
Yeah at the time in December 2019, I was knocked out for 3 days straight with what seemed like the worst fucking flu I ever had. I had just traveled to Seattle too, so it would make sense if I got COVID when that's the city where it first popped up.

This time I had the same thing symptom wise but it was only for 1 day.

[DarrinS]

I'm hearing that vaccinated, but previously uninfected people are having symptoms longer from BA5. Still a mostly mild illness though.

[DarrinS]

And rapid tests aren't picking it up.

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& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.14.2022
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& the beat goes on!!!



[/QUOTE]

[InRareForm]

La county soon to bring back indoor mask mandate

There's some people at my work who have got it 4+ times already.

[SnakeBoy]

Covidian dream come true

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[Spurminator]

"You know who else made recommendations? The NAZIS."

[ElNono]

"You know who else made recommendations? The NAZIS."

:lol Yeah, it's not like you don't get free at home tests, and only guidance...

Totally jives with the "handcuffed, lined up" line...

[ChumpDumper]

Covidian dream come true

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:lol Snacks the hypothetical victim

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1,050,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.14.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[Winehole23]

The thing is, we have peer reviewed studies for the efficacy of NPIs, and the switch pullers don't care because the NPIs are unpopular.

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[Winehole23]

3M Aura is my occupational mitigation.

I'm COVID-free so far, but a bunch of my co-workers got it. Three of them recently.

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[Winehole23]

They might have gotten it elsewhere, but the chances that I was exposed to them while they were infected is far from non-zero. There was a similar cluster where I work last fall, I dodged the bullet there too.

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1,050,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.17.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[SnakeBoy]

Former President Donald Trump's adviser believes Covid-19 could have leaked from a Wuhan lab where scientists were working on vaccines for similar viruses.

Infectious diseases expert and former presidential Covid adviser Dr Deborah Birx told The Mail on Sunday that coronavirus 'came out of the box ready to infect' when it emerged in the Chinese city of Wuhan in December 2020.

The adviser said most viruses take months or years to become highly infectious to humans. But, Dr Birx said, Covid 'was already more infectious than flu when it first arrived'.

She said that meant Covid was either an 'abnormal thing of nature' or that Chinese scientists were 'working on coronavirus vaccines' and became infected.

'It happens, labs aren't perfect, people aren't perfect, we make mistakes and there can be contamination,' she said.

She accused China of initially covering up how infectious Covid was.

Birx said Covid's infectiousness was consistent with a virus which had been experimented on in a lab.

'In laboratories you grow the virus in human cells, allowing it to adapt more. Each time it passes through human cells it becomes more adapted,' she said.

Because people can catch Covid asymptomatically meaning they don't show symptoms Dr Birx argues a Wuhan scientist could have easily walked out of the lab with it.

'Someone working in the lab with one of the strains could've caught it and not known they had it,' she said.

Dr Birx also added that lives could've been saved if China had admitted the virus spread asymptomatically, when it was first discovered.

'China was implying that they were containing it, but asymptomatic spread cannot be contained without testing,' she said.

[Winehole23]

CDC asleep at the switch. Kids going back to school in 4-6 weeks gonna blow it up.

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[Thread]

Former President Donald Trump's adviser believes Covid-19 could have leaked from a Wuhan lab where scientists were working on vaccines for similar viruses.

Infectious diseases expert and former presidential Covid adviser Dr Deborah Birx told The Mail on Sunday that coronavirus 'came out of the box ready to infect' when it emerged in the Chinese city of Wuhan in December 2020.

The adviser said most viruses take months or years to become highly infectious to humans. But, Dr Birx said, Covid 'was already more infectious than flu when it first arrived'.

She said that meant Covid was either an 'abnormal thing of nature' or that Chinese scientists were 'working on coronavirus vaccines' and became infected.

'It happens, labs aren't perfect, people aren't perfect, we make mistakes and there can be contamination,' she said.

She accused China of initially covering up how infectious Covid was.

Birx said Covid's infectiousness was consistent with a virus which had been experimented on in a lab.

'In laboratories you grow the virus in human cells, allowing it to adapt more. Each time it passes through human cells it becomes more adapted,' she said.

Because people can catch Covid asymptomatically meaning they don't show symptoms Dr Birx argues a Wuhan scientist could have easily walked out of the lab with it.

'Someone working in the lab with one of the strains could've caught it and not known they had it,' she said.

Dr Birx also added that lives could've been saved if China had admitted the virus spread asymptomatically, when it was first discovered.

'China was implying that they were containing it, but asymptomatic spread cannot be contained without testing,' she said.

But (we're) not going after China for this. Not for money, marbles, nor chalk. Now we will go after China for siding Russia vs. Ukr, with everything we've got, but not for COVID. And that's just the way it's gonna bePERIOD

[DarrinS]

CDC asleep at the switch. Kids going back to school in 4-6 weeks gonna blow it up.

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Free natural boosters for the kids. :tu

[Winehole23]

Free natural boosters for the kids. :tu"Disease is the best medicine!"

Won't be long til y'all start spreading it on purpose.

[DarrinS]

"Disease is the best medicine!"

Won't be long til y'all start spreading it on purpose.


This isn't the same disease anymore.

[Winehole23]

This isn't the same disease anymore.Not sure what you mean

[DarrinS]

Not sure what you mean

Not seeing the hypoxia, pneumonia, etc.

[Winehole23]

Not seeing the hypoxia, pneumonia, etc.that it's not Delta doesn't mean it's danger-free, or no different than a cold. there are plenty of bad things COVID does to people short of hospitalization and death.

[Winehole23]

School Ventilation: A Vital Tool to Reduce COVID-19 Spread (https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/publications/2021/school-ventilation)

Also effective at hindering transmission of other airborne pathogens.


While ventilation improvements may often be perceived as a complicated and expensive investment, we demonstrate in a cost-effectiveness analysis comparing ventilation with enhanced (“deep”) cleaning that ventilation improvements are a cost-effective public health measure. As new, potentially more transmissible variants of SARS-CoV-2 continue to emerge, broad improvements in indoor air quality are important for reducing transmission. Improvements to ventilation are a good use of the COVID-19 relief funds provided to K-12 schools.


To produce this report and recommendations, we interviewed 32 experts in air quality, engineering, education policy, and communications, as well as teachers at schools that have been open for in-person learning during the pandemic. We examined relevant peer-reviewed scientific literature and engineering best practices for indoor air quality as well as specific guidance for K-12 schools issued by the CDC and expert industry organizations. We also hosted a webinar featuring experts in indoor air quality, engineering, and schools to highlight their expertise and provide recommendations for what can be done now to reduce SARS-CoV-2 transmission through improvements in ventilation and to add to the mitigation measures that schools are already taking.


A broad conclusion of this research is that the benefits to investing in healthy air in schools have the potential to outlast the COVID-19 pandemic. Improved ventilation may give children and school staff healthier indoor air quality for decades in the future, providing a healthier environment for nonpandemic times and potentially reducing risks in future infectious disease outbreak.
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/publications/2021/school-ventilation

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1,051,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.19.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[DMC]

You don't even need to read the post to know the position and what's going to be said. Just look at the name of the poster :lol

e.g. someone will say something snarky about me, like "I knew it wouldn't address the topic blah blah blah" :lol

[Winehole23]

it's still germane.

when's the last time you posted anything topical? you just go around biting ankles.

[Winehole23]

wouldn't work in Texas right now, but illustrates the importance of clean air, as intuited by medical science 100 years ago.

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[ChumpDumper]

Former President Donald Trump's adviser believes Covid-19 could have leaked from a Wuhan lab where scientists were working on vaccines for similar viruses.

Infectious diseases expert and former presidential Covid adviser Dr Deborah Birx told The Mail on Sunday that coronavirus 'came out of the box ready to infect' when it emerged in the Chinese city of Wuhan in December 2020.

The adviser said most viruses take months or years to become highly infectious to humans. But, Dr Birx said, Covid 'was already more infectious than flu when it first arrived'.

She said that meant Covid was either an 'abnormal thing of nature' or that Chinese scientists were 'working on coronavirus vaccines' and became infected.

'It happens, labs aren't perfect, people aren't perfect, we make mistakes and there can be contamination,' she said.

She accused China of initially covering up how infectious Covid was.

Birx said Covid's infectiousness was consistent with a virus which had been experimented on in a lab.

'In laboratories you grow the virus in human cells, allowing it to adapt more. Each time it passes through human cells it becomes more adapted,' she said.

Because people can catch Covid asymptomatically meaning they don't show symptoms Dr Birx argues a Wuhan scientist could have easily walked out of the lab with it.

'Someone working in the lab with one of the strains could've caught it and not known they had it,' she said.

Dr Birx also added that lives could've been saved if China had admitted the virus spread asymptomatically, when it was first discovered.

'China was implying that they were containing it, but asymptomatic spread cannot be contained without testing,' she said.

:lol Aggie news

[Winehole23]

that it's not Delta doesn't mean it's danger-free, or no different than a cold. there are plenty of bad things COVID does to people short of hospitalization and death.right now, rampant infection means hundreds of thousands of people per day in the US are being exposed to the dangers. trying to hinder transmission would spare a lot of sickness and suffering -- as well as a buttload of lost days of economic productivity.

[DarrinS]

right now, rampant infection means hundreds of thousands of people per day in the US are being exposed to the dangers. trying to hinder transmission would spare a lot of sickness and suffering -- as well as a buttload of lost days of economic productivity.


Ooh, the dangers

[Winehole23]

Ooh, the dangersDo you know what they are?

[Winehole23]

Australians urged to work from home as COVID hospital cases surge (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/20/australians-told-to-work-from-home-as-covid-hospital-cases-surge)Authorities look for ways to reduce strain on health system, after more than 300,000 cases reported in last seven days. (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/20/australians-told-to-work-from-home-as-covid-hospital-cases-surge)

[Winehole23]

Ooh, the dangersyep.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYKzz8FXEAIsch9?format=jpg&name=small

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95565-8



reinfection correlates with increased all cause mortality:

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1749502/v1



increased cardiac risks:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01689-3

[DarrinS]

Ooh, the dangers


He's dying

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[Winehole23]

Darrin passes on empirical evidence in favor of shitposting. It's slightly less annoying than his COVID happy talk.

[SnakeBoy]

Darrin passes on empirical evidence in favor of shitposting. It's slightly less annoying than his COVID happy talk.

The empirical evidence is everybody gets infected, repeatedly. 5th endemic HCoV...a common cold virus.

[Winehole23]

The empirical evidence is everybody gets infected, repeatedly. 5th endemic HCoV...a common cold virus.he suggested it wasn't dangerous. when was the last time the common cold killed 1 million Americans in a little over two years?

[Winehole23]

...quite apart from chronic neurological, pulmonary, cardiac, kidney and vascular damage.

[Winehole23]

(I left out immunological derangement)

[Winehole23]

Looking at the present from the vantage of evolutionary biology misses the significance for us specifically.

[DarrinS]

he suggested it wasn't dangerous. when was the last time the common cold killed 1 million Americans in a little over two years?

Omicron variants aren't the OG strains. Thankfully

[Winehole23]

Because we have robust science to develop vaccines and treatments for COVID (which afaik we do not for the common cold) it makes sense to hinder transmission until that protection is a bit more robust, to spare people the worst effects of a novel pathogen. Precisely so that getting infected repeatedly carries less danger. Technology is a factor evolutionary biology too, one that has been wielded to great effect already, sparing a lot of lives. Given a bit of time and effort, technology might provide vaccines and treatments with sterilizing efficacy.

[Winehole23]

Omicron variants aren't the OG strains. Thankfullyfingers crossed, Omicron is already evading vaccination.

[Winehole23]

Attenuation of virulence isn't a given. Omicron has killed 200,000 people and counting in the US since December. What it may lack in deadliness it makes up for in transmissibility.

[Winehole23]

A handful of US states declared crisis standards of care because COVID overwhelmed hospital systems. That could happen again, given the years long strain COVID has put -- is putting -- on health care delivery.

[Winehole23]

You can't really say that about the common cold.

[DarrinS]

fingers crossed, Omicron is already evading vaccination.


Attenuation of virulence isn't a given. Omicron has killed 200,000 people and counting in the US since December. What it may lack in deadliness it makes up for in transmissibility.


A handful of US states declared crisis standards of care because COVID overwhelmed hospital systems. That could happen again, given the years long strain COVID has put -- is putting -- on health care delivery.


You can't really say that about the common cold.


Must be really stressful waiting tables in your n95. :lol

[Winehole23]

Must be really stressful waiting tables in your n95. :lolNot at all, I'm used to it. COVID free so far.

[DarrinS]

Not at all, I'm used to it. COVID free so far.

You do you. :lmao

[Winehole23]

You do you. :lmaoHow magnanimous. I will.

[Winehole23]

Do you wash your hands before eating or after taking a shit?

Do you sanitize food preparation surfaces?

COVID is airborne, the principle isn't much different.

[DarrinS]

Its a common cold

[Winehole23]

Its a common coldNot really, that's wishcasting.

[Winehole23]

The common cold doesn't kill millions of people a year. Nor does it disable millions. Nor does it cause pervasive vascular damage.

[Winehole23]

Related to the common cold, yes.

[ElNono]

He's dying

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Your President looking good :tu

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1,052,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.22.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[hater]

Your President looking good :tu

If thats looking good to you I cant imagine what ur wife looks like nig :lmao

[hater]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1550472627697090560

[ElNono]

If thats looking good to you I cant imagine what ur wife looks like nig :lmao

Let's see what you look like at 102 years old, COVID laced mummy... :lmao

[boutons_deux]

A ny vaccinated person traveled to hungary and Poland and came back with polio, first American polio case in 10 years.

The victim has trouble walking, AKA partially crippled

Will be hilarious if it was a Catholic making some kind of Catholic pilgrimage

[Winehole23]

Do you wash your hands before eating or after taking a shit?

Do you sanitize food preparation surfaces?

COVID is airborne, the principle isn't much different.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/covid-cdc-transmission-counties-10.png

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& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.22.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[Winehole23]

Sit on a fork and spin in the death plane, Cully. Been done with you a long time since.

[Thread]

Sit on a fork and spin in the death plane, Cully. Been done with you a long time since.

That was your choice, not mine.

[Winehole23]

Living with COVID means getting infected up to 3-4 times a year, plus more or less constant disruption to businesses and families.

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[TeyshaBlue]

Its a common cold
Uh....no.

[Winehole23]

Hope you and the missus are doing alright, tb

[TeyshaBlue]

Hope you and the missus are doing alright, tb

I'm fine, thx. My wife continues to slowly decline but she's a fiesty one....hard to outrun the CO2 surplus tho.
"Common cold" my ass.

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD3s69M8QSc

[Winehole23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD3s69M8QScdidn't you just say COVID was nbd like, yesterday?

pick a lane.

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1,054,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.25.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[DarrinS]

didn't you just say COVID was nbd like, yesterday?

pick a lane.


Yes -- and that's what these doctors are saying too.

[SnakeBoy]

didn't you just say COVID was nbd like, yesterday?

pick a lane.

Didn't watch but has opinions :lol

[Thread]

I'm fine, thx. My wife continues to slowly decline but she's a fiesty one....hard to outrun the CO2 surplus tho.
"Common cold" my ass.

"Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light."

[boutons_deux]

Florida parents cannot find vaccine for their children because fascist DeSantis has refused to obtain it from federal government

Report policies make you poor make you sick Make you Dead

[SnakeBoy]

When asked what he would do differently if he could go back in time to the beginning of the pandemic, White House coronavirus advisor Anthony Fauci said that he would recommend "much, much more stringent restrictions" from the get-go.

"If I knew in 2020 what I know now, we would do a lot differently," said Fauci in an interview on Monday. "The insidious nature of spread in the community would have been much more of an alarm, and there would have been much, much more stringent restrictions in the sense of very, very heavy encouragement of people to wear masks, physical distancing, what have you."

[ElNono]

When asked what he would do differently if he could go back in time to the beginning of the pandemic, White House coronavirus advisor Anthony Fauci said that he would recommend "much, much more stringent restrictions" from the get-go.

"If I knew in 2020 what I know now, we would do a lot differently," said Fauci in an interview on Monday. "The insidious nature of spread in the community would have been much more of an alarm, and there would have been much, much more stringent restrictions in the sense of very, very heavy encouragement of people to wear masks, physical distancing, what have you."

The Good Doctor :tu

[DarrinS]

The Good Doctor :tu

Nah, fuck that guy

[ElNono]

Nah, fuck that guy

Saved millions of lives. Fuck you, not that guy.

[DarrinS]

Saved millions of lives. Fuck you, not that guy.

:lmao

[koriwhat]

Saved millions of lives. Fuck you, not that guy.

Kowtow bootlicker

[ElNono]

:lmao

What's so funny? You keep going to the dentist when you need a coronary bypass...


Kowtow bootlicker

He earned the respect.

[DarrinS]

History won't look kindly on gain of function Fauci.

[ElNono]

History won't look kindly on gain of function Fauci.

Conspiratard history? He already cemented his place as one of the best doctors in US history, guiding this nation through a terrible pandemic while the administration was asleep at the wheel.

[DarrinS]

Conspiratard history? He already cemented his place as one of the best doctors in US history, guiding this nation through a terrible pandemic while the administration was asleep at the wheel.

Yeah, he did wonders with AIDS and covid. Fuck him.

[ElNono]

Yeah, he did wonders with AIDS and covid. Fuck him.

He absolutely did while you were superspreading at the bar... and telling people it's the flu and get some tylenol at CVS.

It's unquestionable he did a terrific job in what always are difficult situations. It's even more impressive considering he had to deal with anti-science retards for a while as well.

Again, I wouldn't worry about his legacy, he's up there in the pantheon of great people that saved millions of american lives and that's exactly how he's going to be remembered.

[koriwhat]

anti-science retards for a while as well.

Like your daddy Trump right? Operation Warp Speed brother!

[ElNono]

Like your daddy Trump right? Operation Warp Speed brother!

lmao, he had his second term all sewn up, then fumbled so badly with COVID. What a fucking idiot.

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1,054,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.26.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[boutons_deux]

Hospitals are being severely stressed even overwhelmed from the "common cold" of covid

[Thread]

Hospitals are being severely stressed even overwhelmed from the "common cold" of covid

Just shut it down, daddy-O.

tee, hee.

[Winehole23]

Shenzhen getting whacked by COVID again

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[spurraider21]

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[Winehole23]

DarrinS, get your ass in here

[spurraider21]

DarrinS, get your ass in here
rand paul in shambles rn

[DarrinS]

"The earliest lineage A genomes from humans lack a direct epidemiological connection to the Huanan market, but were sampled from individuals who lived or had recently stayed close to the market (8)."

Lol, ok

[Spurminator]

"The earliest lineage A genomes from humans lack a direct epidemiological connection to the Huanan market, but were sampled from individuals who lived or had recently stayed close to the market (8)."

Lol, ok

Just baffling how often you're wrong, and how oblivious you are about how often you're wrong.

If I was in your position, I would take inventory of every gut instinct or opinion I had, then do and say the exact opposite.

[boutons_deux]

Meta asks Oversight Board if it should stop removing COVID misinformation

whether it should ease its COVID misinformation policy.

if the company’s policy, including to remove posts with false claims, is still appropriate as the pandemic “has evolved,”

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3574542-meta-asks-oversight-board-if-it-should-stop-removing-covid-misinformation

[spurraider21]

"The earliest lineage A genomes from humans lack a direct epidemiological connection to the Huanan market, but were sampled from individuals who lived or had recently stayed close to the market (8)."

Lol, ok
cant believe the authors missed that in their own paper!

[SnakeBoy]

1551937832159158272

A study revealed the pandemic started in Wuhan...what is the breaking news here exactly?

[spurraider21]

A study revealed the pandemic started in Wuhan...what is the breaking news here exactly?:lmao

[boutons_deux]

now the anti-vax covidiots are going after tetanus vaccine

[DarrinS]

Hospitals are being severely stressed even overwhelmed from the "common cold" of covid


Meh, not really.

[koriwhat]

lmao, he had his second term all sewn up, then fumbled so badly with COVID. What a fucking idiot.

You still got that Orange Fuel running through your veins so thank your daddy Trump bro. :tu

[hater]

"The place where you get Covid does not matter now"


Wow


https://twitter.com/spriteer_774400/status/1550459337268682752

[ElNono]

You still got that Orange Fuel running through your veins so thank your daddy Trump bro. :tu

I like Democracy and I'd like to keep it. You can thank your daddy and President Old Joe for that one. :tu

[Nathan89]

1551944711060987907

All they do is lie.

[hater]

I like Democracy

Says the guy who roots for Zelensky who banned all opposition parties and media :lmao

Salvador :lol

[Thread]

1551944711060987907

All they do is lie.

Nathan

[Thread]

Boiled down:::
1,056,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.28.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[boutons_deux]

In Rural America, Covid Hits Black and Hispanic People Hardest

At the peak of the Omicron wave,

Covid killed Black Americans in rural areas

at a rate roughly 34 percent higher than it did white people.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/28/health/covid-deaths-black-hispanic-rural.html

Euro-white male supremacist most definitely enjoying the ethnic/racial purification

also a massacre for NAs

[Thread]

Boiled down:::
1,056,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.29.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[Winehole23]

reinfection amplifies risks to health, per VA study


Here we use the national health care databases of the US Department of Veterans Affairs to build a cohort of people with first infection (n = 257,427), reinfection (2 or more infections, n = 38,926), and a non-infected control group (n = 5,396,855) to estimate risks and 6-month burdens of all-cause mortality, hospitalization, and a set of pre-specified incident outcomes.

https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/478d32d030fd75f57003c52e623688aa?src

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1749502/v1

[Thread]

Boiled down:::
1,057,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.30.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[hater]

:lmao Falsuchi


68xtrWMzBlo

[ElNono]

:lmao Falsuchi

68xtrWMzBlo

:lmao "Fauci Fired"

:lmao retard's dreams

[Thread]

Boiled down:::
1,057,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

7.31.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[Winehole23]

Rampant transmission seems to have created selection pressures favoring the rapid emergence of ever fitter new variants.


Now the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is tracking a new “variant of concern”: BA.4.6. This week, the CDC included the BA.4 spinoff in its weekly tracking of COVID cases, with the agency’s chief data officer tweeting (https://twitter.com/cyrusshahpar46/status/1554472923838160902) that the new subvariant had actually been “circulating for several weeks” in the U.S. The CDC designates (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/variant-classifications.html#anchor_1632154493691) strains as “variants of concern” if they display greater transmissibility, reduced effectiveness of treatment, increased severity, or decreased neutralization by antibodies.


According to the CDC, BA.4.6 made up (https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions) 4.1% of COVID cases for the week ending July 30. The new variant is more prevalent in the region comprising Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, and Nebraska, where it makes up 10.7% of local cases. The mid-Atlantic region and the South are also seeing rates of BA.4.6 above the national average.
https://fortune.com/2022/08/04/ba-4-6-omicron-subvariant-covid-ba-5-booster-vaccine/

[hater]

Pura Vida :tu

https://twitter.com/RafiFarber/status/1556582771493142528

[Thread]

Boiled down:::
1,060,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

8.08.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[ElNono]

Pura Vida :tu

https://twitter.com/RafiFarber/status/1556582771493142528

American vaccines :tu

[Thread]

Boiled down:::
1,060,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

8.08.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[hater]

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1557300518933995523


:lmao

[hater]

:lmao daily covid test

https://twitter.com/staceyabrams/status/1557373585320206337

[CosmicCowboy]

Just finished my third round of Covid.

[Thread]

Boiled down:::
1,061,000 Americans dead in the ground.
& counting...
as
"I will shut it down." Biden
squats in the White House.

8.10.2022
~~~~~~~~~
& the beat goes on!!!

[ducks]

Fraudci- You need to get the vaccine & wear masks to protect everyone against Covid.
Americans- So the masks & vaccine will prevent the unmasked and unvaccinated from getting Covid?
Fraudci -No.
Americans- So the masks & vaccine will prevent prevent the masked and vaccinated from getting Covid?
Fraudci -No.
Americans-So the vaccine and masks are ineffective?
Fraudci -No. They're both effective.
Americans-If it won't prevent the vaccinated or unvaccinated from getting Covid, then why do we need to get vaccinated & wear masks?
Fraudci -To protect people against Covid.

[ElNono]

Fauci- You need to get the vaccine & wear masks to protect everyone against Covid.
Americans- So the masks & vaccine will prevent the unmasked and unvaccinated from getting Covid?
Fauci -No.
Americans- So the masks & vaccine will prevent prevent the masked and vaccinated from getting Covid?
Fauci -No.
Americans-So the vaccine and masks are ineffective?
Fauci -No. They're both effective.
Americans-If it won't prevent the vaccinated or unvaccinated from getting Covid, then why do we need to get vaccinated & wear masks?
Fauci -To protect people against Covid.

How much more clear can it be? Fauci, American Hero :tu

[boutons_deux]

Fauci and Chinese lab didn't do it! :lol

COVID-19 lab-leak theory debunked by Australian professor who has been dubbed 'the virus hunter'

Professor Eddie Holmes co-authored a study that mapped early cases of COVID-19 and

pinpointed the Huanan seafood wholesale market in Wuhan as likely epicentre of the pandemic.

he had visited that very market, the Huanan seafood wholesale market, in 2014.
"While I was there, I noticed there were these live wildlife for sale, particularly raccoon dogs and … muskrats"

Raccoon dogs had been associated with the emergence of a different coronavirus outbreak, SARS-CoV-1, in 2002-04, which became known worldwide as the SARS virus.

Even in 2014, Professor Holmes believed the market could become a site of virus transmission between animals and humans.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-13/profile-professor-eddie-holmes-virus-hunter-covid-19/101324738

[koriwhat]

:lmao daily covid test

Safe from the Kung-Flu but not hi-cholesterol and diabetes. Lol At that fat fucking loser.

[Winehole23]

Canada


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FaFDNnOWAAEmm_E?format=jpg&name=medium

[InRareForm]

History shows this won't be the last pandemic. But the way society is as we've seen with COVID, will they even take the next one serious with precautions ?

[boutons_deux]

History shows this won't be the last pandemic. But the way society is as we've seen with COVID, will they even take the next one serious with precautions ?

many commentators think CDC is fumbling monkeypox planning.

monkeypox is mutating much faster than the virologists expected.

[DarrinS]

History shows this won't be the last pandemic. But the way society is as we've seen with COVID, will they even take the next one serious with precautions ?


We fucked up a generation of young people to make fat unhealthy fucks like winehole feel safe. Never again.

[DarrinS]

many commentators think CDC is fumbling monkeypox planning.

monkeypox is mutating much faster than the virologists expected.

Don't be a promiscuous fag.

[Spurminator]

Don't be a promiscuous fag.

Be a lonely homebody virgin like me who's scared of minorites.

[DarrinS]

Married over 25 years

[ChumpDumper]

.

[Spurminator]

Married over 25 years

https://c.tenor.com/bLroYFH9tf4AAAAC/i-dont-care-tommy-lee-jones.gif